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(The Atlantic)   It's like Mark Twain always said, "I've misquoted myself so many times, I don't know what I've said"   (theatlantic.com) divider line 49
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2012-08-20 08:09:55 AM  
An article about misquotes?

"You didn't build that"

No, I'm pretty sure I got that right.
 
2012-08-20 08:27:19 AM  
Most frequently misquoted in Fark headlines?

3.bp.blogspot.com
 
2012-08-20 10:16:56 AM  
I thought this article was about Romney
 
2012-08-20 10:59:01 AM  
"I once got busy in a Burger King bathroom" -- Oscar Wilde
 
2012-08-20 11:15:24 AM  
Well, that escalated quickly.
 
2012-08-20 11:45:11 AM  
I didn't say all of the things I said. ~Yogi Berra
 
2012-08-20 11:49:11 AM  
"I like being able to fire people who provide services to me." -Mitt Romney
 
2012-08-20 12:00:48 PM  
t0.gstatic.com
 
2012-08-20 12:06:31 PM  
i have a Kindle with nothing but free books on it, so I've been reading some old books. (Wuthering Heights sucks, Pride and Prejudice is good, but slow) I'm now reading Innocents Abroad, Mark Twain's account of taking a long trip around Europe on a ship, in what sounds like the old equivalent of a cruise. Except that the cruises lasted months instead of a few days, and the passengers got off often and left for days.

Talk about trolls--Twain sniping about Europeans and their peculiar habits, re-writing their history to their disadvantage, critiquing the greatest artists in the world, and mangling the local politics, is just as funny now as it was 100 years ago. No mis-quoting needed.
 
2012-08-20 12:16:26 PM  
As a literature geek, the most amazing misquotation is:

"Brightness falls from the air". It was actually a typo - a real lead-slug typographical omission from the 1600s. The original was "Brightness falls from the hair", which is less amazing and kind of disappointing. But the typo'd version, which no one actually wrote, was one of the most famous lines from that era and was quoted by authentic geniuses and yoinkers for allusory value.
 
2012-08-20 12:18:11 PM  

PC LOAD LETTER: "I once got busy in a Burger King bathroom" -- Oscar Wilde


new keyboard and monitor!

/i dunno why, this made me lose it.
 
2012-08-20 12:20:25 PM  
i.thestar.com
"When I got my asshole tattooed, he held my cheeks open while I was choking myself from the pain."
-Mark Twain
 
2012-08-20 12:30:35 PM  
BillCo: An article about misquotes? "You didn't build that" No, I'm pretty sure I got that right.

Yawn. Last time responding to your unclever, sophomoric bullsh-t.

Ignored.
 
2012-08-20 12:38:31 PM  

Barricaded Gunman: BillCo: An article about misquotes? "You didn't build that" No, I'm pretty sure I got that right.

Yawn. Last time responding to your unclever, sophomoric bullsh-t.

Ignored.


Why would you reply to annouce you're ignoring him?

Ignored.

/Ignore feature is stupid
 
2012-08-20 12:42:22 PM  
Top misquote has to be "Luke, I am your father."
 
2012-08-20 12:46:12 PM  

BillCo: An article about misquotes?

"You didn't build that"

No, I'm pretty sure I got that right.


Not a misquote. It was a quote taken out of context and video edited by Fox News, then when called out, Fox News adds footage to the beginning of his speech and leaves the jump in place to skip the sentence immediately proceeding the "You didn't built that" portion. For the record, and I know you don't care, the quote should read "Somebody invested in roads and bridges. If you've got a business, you didn't build that."
 
2012-08-20 12:47:09 PM  
"Play it again, Sam" - Dean Martin
 
2012-08-20 12:49:03 PM  

MorePeasPlease: [i.thestar.com image 411x500]
"When I got my asshole tattooed, he held my cheeks open while I was choking myself from the pain."
-Mark Twain


Okay, that meme is SO going to have legs. It works on so many levels!
 
2012-08-20 01:02:22 PM  

KarmicDisaster: "I like being able to fire people who provide services to me." -Mitt Romney


"I should tell my story. I'm also unemployed." -Mitt Romney, speaking in 2011 to unemployed people in Florida. Romney's net worth is over $200 million.
 
2012-08-20 01:11:10 PM  
What's the deal with Gorn Nuts?
- George Carlin, ca 1492
 
2012-08-20 01:12:34 PM  
MugzyBrown: Why would you reply to annouce you're ignoring him? Ignored. /Ignore feature is stupid

Not sure if you ignored me, and are thus not seeing this, but I'll reply anyway. I responded to BillCo because I've gone back and forth with him in the past, and I've finally given up on him as nothing more than an unoriginal, douchy troll.

I disagree that the ignore feature is "stupid." I don't ignore people simply for disagreeing with me, or even for ranting rudely about why they disagree with me and how much of a misinformed tool I am. That's part of the value of Fark to me... exposure to the opposite point of view. But without the "Ignore" option, all that value would be lost in a sea of dull ejaculations from every thread-sh-tting retard in the world, every dickbag who spells "Obama" with a zero, every loser who consistently misquotes or mischaracterizes everything they can, or who vigorously espouse childishly naive political philosophies that most of us were able to see through in 10th grade.

I have a finite amount of time to spend on Fark, and while I have no problem spending that time reading views that annoy and even enrage me, I have zero time to waste on children who type random, incendiary bullsh-t just to see who they can "hook" into replying.
 
2012-08-20 01:13:38 PM  

MugzyBrown: Barricaded Gunman: BillCo: An article about misquotes? "You didn't build that" No, I'm pretty sure I got that right.

Yawn. Last time responding to your unclever, sophomoric bullsh-t.

Ignored.

Why would you reply to annouce you're ignoring him?

Ignored.

/Ignore feature is stupid


You kind of did it, too!

You are Double Secret Ignored, sir!
 
2012-08-20 01:15:17 PM  

BillCo: An article about misquotes?

"You didn't build that"

No, I'm pretty sure I got that right.


And that's why you are on so many ignore lists.

A quote taken COMPLETELY OUT OF CONTEXT is a misquote.

Not that you care about facts (since they have a well known liberal bias) but here is the quote IN CONTEXT:


Somebody helped to create this unbelievable American system that we have that allowed you to thrive. Somebody invested in roads and bridges. If you've got a business -- you didn't build that. Somebody else made that happen. The Internet didn't get invented on its own. Government research created the Internet so that all the companies could make money off the Internet.


Do you agree or disagree with the statement in context?

(queue crickets....)
 
2012-08-20 01:21:13 PM  

Barricaded Gunman:
I have a finite amount of time to spend on Fark, and while I have no problem spending that time reading views that annoy and even enrage me, I have zero time to waste on children who type random, incendiary bullsh-t just to see who they can "hook" into replying.


I favorite trolls/idiots in a dark red so I know I can not take it seriously, but still see everything in the thread. I find it is more helpful than sometimes missing part of a conversation.
 
2012-08-20 01:25:49 PM  

PC LOAD LETTER: "I once got busy in a Burger King bathroom" -- Oscar Wilde


If Burger Kings had been around in Oscar Wilde's day, rest assured, sir, he would have gotten busy in one.
 
2012-08-20 01:27:01 PM  
You kind of did it, too!

You are Double Secret Ignored, sir!


I didn't actually do it. I was being ironical.

Never found a reason to ignore anybody. Some people say things I disagree with.. some people say them all the time. Sometimes I'm in the mood to argue, sometimes I'm not.
 
2012-08-20 01:29:38 PM  
Droog8912: I favorite trolls/idiots in a dark red so I know I can not take it seriously, but still see everything in the thread. I find it is more helpful than sometimes missing part of a conversation.

I have a similar system for idiot identification, but once they get past the point of "misguided dumbass" and on to "guy who just says stupid things to see how many people he can get to respond" then I ignore them. It's actually kind of pleasant to see bits and pieces of their idiocy angrily quoted by others, while knowing that I didn't have to suffer through it in the original.
 
2012-08-20 01:53:59 PM  
cryinoutloud
I'm now reading Innocents Abroad, Mark Twain's account of taking a long trip around Europe on a ship...Talk about trolls--Twain sniping about Europeans and their peculiar habits, re-writing their history to their disadvantage, critiquing the greatest artists in the world, and mangling the local politics, is just as funny now as it was 100 years ago. No mis-quoting needed.

I don't know what edition you're reading, but the book was a watered down collection of his newspaper columns. If you can find a collection of the originals, they're a lot more mean.
 
2012-08-20 02:16:00 PM  

SpectroBoy: BillCo: An article about misquotes?

"You didn't build that"

No, I'm pretty sure I got that right.

And that's why you are on so many ignore lists.

A quote taken COMPLETELY OUT OF CONTEXT is a misquote.

Not that you care about facts (since they have a well known liberal bias) but here is the quote IN CONTEXT:


Somebody helped to create this unbelievable American system that we have that allowed you to thrive. Somebody invested in roads and bridges. If you've got a business -- you didn't build that. Somebody else made that happen. The Internet didn't get invented on its own. Government research created the Internet so that all the companies could make money off the Internet.

Do you agree or disagree with the statement in context?

(queue crickets....)


Having actually heard the audio, I think it's pretty clear that Obama cut himself off very quickly after "if you've got a business" because he was about to go off on a tangent without completing the thought that he was going to express regarding the roads and bridges. In fact if you look at that whole paragraph the "you've got a business" part doesn't have any place in it. And yes this would mean that he should have said "you didn't build those". The President made a grammatical mistake.

I'm a bit surprised Republicans haven't made fun of the fact that this is what happens when Obama doesn't use the TelePrompTer, but I guess they're tired of that joke too.
 
2012-08-20 02:29:02 PM  

cryinoutloud: i have a Kindle with nothing but free books on it, so I've been reading some old books. (Wuthering Heights sucks, Pride and Prejudice is good, but slow) I'm now reading Innocents Abroad, Mark Twain's account of taking a long trip around Europe on a ship, in what sounds like the old equivalent of a cruise. Except that the cruises lasted months instead of a few days, and the passengers got off often and left for days.

Talk about trolls--Twain sniping about Europeans and their peculiar habits, re-writing their history to their disadvantage, critiquing the greatest artists in the world, and mangling the local politics, is just as funny now as it was 100 years ago. No mis-quoting needed.


I think that is possibly Twain's most under-appreciated book. Besides being an account of what may have been the first "cruise" in a modern-day sense, some of his cultural insights, particularly when he's travelling in the Holy Land are remarkable both for the depth of his insight, and what they reveal about then-contemporary attitudes about the world and it's leaders. It really is a historical and anthropological treasure
 
2012-08-20 02:42:39 PM  
 
2012-08-20 02:43:35 PM  
sorry about that comment... I didn't even get to preview it and got a database error when I tried to post it. I didn't mean to html all over everything.
 
2012-08-20 02:44:50 PM  
List fails without more Shakespeare. "Lead on, MacBeth", "Alas, poor Yorick, I knew him well", "Once more into the breach, my friends", "Hoist upon his own petard", "Discretion is the better part of valour" "The first thing we'll do is kill all the lawyers"

Those are just the ones off the top of my head. And they're all wrong.
 
2012-08-20 02:45:19 PM  
I ask to be or not to be
A rogue and peasant slave is what you see
A boy who loved his mother's knee
And so I ask to be or not to be...
So hear my plea, I beg of thee
And say you see a little hope for me
To fight or flee, to fight or flee
I ask myself to be or not to be

He asks to be or not to be
A rogue and peasant slave is what you see
My son who loves his mother's knee
And so we ask to be or not to be
Oh hear his plea, we beg of thee
We say we see a little hope for he
To fight or flee, to fight or flee
I ask myself to be or nooooooooooot to be
 
2012-08-20 02:58:17 PM  
wheresmysammich.com
 
2012-08-20 03:05:13 PM  
My eyes; the goggles do nothing.
 
2012-08-20 06:56:21 PM  
the love of money is the root of all evil != money is the root of all evil
 
2012-08-20 09:35:27 PM  

Dear Jerk: cryinoutloud
I'm now reading Innocents Abroad, Mark Twain's account of taking a long trip around Europe on a ship...Talk about trolls--Twain sniping about Europeans and their peculiar habits, re-writing their history to their disadvantage, critiquing the greatest artists in the world, and mangling the local politics, is just as funny now as it was 100 years ago. No mis-quoting needed.

I don't know what edition you're reading, but the book was a watered down collection of his newspaper columns. If you can find a collection of the originals, they're a lot more mean.


love innocents abroad, never heard that. i'll have to look into that, thank you very much!
of course, i'll always love the man for his treatment of cooper.
 
2012-08-20 11:13:22 PM  
Lurk sober post drunk
...'ll always love the man for his treatment of cooper.

Edward Bok, also. I read the Pulitzer Prize winning 'The Americanization of Edward Bok' and thought to myself "what a dick." I was pretty pleased with myself when I read a piece by Twain that, well, zinged him pretty good.
 
2012-08-21 10:50:09 AM  
As the Good Book says, "Happy is the bride that the sun shines on."

My grandmother's misquote of the Bible
 
2012-08-21 05:43:34 PM  

Droog8912: Barricaded Gunman:
I have a finite amount of time to spend on Fark, and while I have no problem spending that time reading views that annoy and even enrage me, I have zero time to waste on children who type random, incendiary bullsh-t just to see who they can "hook" into replying.

I favorite trolls/idiots in a dark red so I know I can not take it seriously, but still see everything in the thread. I find it is more helpful than sometimes missing part of a conversation.


That's a good idea. Consider it borrowed.
 
2012-08-22 07:38:44 AM  

meatofmystery: PC LOAD LETTER: "I once got busy in a Burger King bathroom" -- Oscar Wilde

new keyboard and monitor!

/i dunno why, this made me lose it.


"As Brion Gysin said, 'Flame broiling makes the Whopper taste better.'" ~ William S. Burroughs
 
2012-08-22 07:40:02 AM  

ramblinwreck: Top misquote has to be "Luke, I am your father."


If you're under 35, perhaps.
 
2012-08-22 07:43:31 AM  

SpectroBoy: BillCo: An article about misquotes?

"You didn't build that"

No, I'm pretty sure I got that right.

And that's why you are on so many ignore lists.

A quote taken COMPLETELY OUT OF CONTEXT is a misquote.

Not that you care about facts (since they have a well known liberal bias) but here is the quote IN CONTEXT:


Somebody helped to create this unbelievable American system that we have that allowed you to thrive. Somebody invested in roads and bridges. If you've got a business -- you didn't build that. Somebody else made that happen. The Internet didn't get invented on its own. Government research created the Internet so that all the companies could make money off the Internet.

Do you agree or disagree with the statement in context?

(queue crickets....)


I agree with the statement in context. It's a crowning irony to me that modern people argue on the Internet about how useless gubmint is. It's like the guy I used to know who told me he didn't believe in taxes: I told him to get the fark off my sidewalk.
 
2012-08-22 07:53:14 AM  

Droog8912: Barricaded Gunman:
I have a finite amount of time to spend on Fark, and while I have no problem spending that time reading views that annoy and even enrage me, I have zero time to waste on children who type random, incendiary bullsh-t just to see who they can "hook" into replying.

I favorite trolls/idiots in a dark red so I know I can not take it seriously, but still see everything in the thread. I find it is more helpful than sometimes missing part of a conversation.


I don't. I used to think that, in a naive, hopeful kind of way, even as I knew better. Despite being a USDA Grade A biatch, I really do want to give people the benefit of the doubt most of the time, and a lot of my irritation actually comes from the disappointment I so often get as reward. My experience is that people who say something useless, stupid, and annoying aren't likely to suddenly say something I'll feel rewarded to read.
 
2012-08-22 08:12:51 AM  

jonny_q: Having actually heard the audio, I think it's pretty clear that Obama cut himself off very quickly after "if you've got a business" because he was about to go off on a tangent without completing the thought that he was going to express regarding the roads and bridges. In fact if you look at that whole paragraph the "you've got a business" part doesn't have any place in it. And yes this would mean that he should have said "you didn't build those". The President made a grammatical mistake.

You are bending over backwards further than the people who try to say that Neil Armstrong really did say "a man" but there was line noise. Wouldn't it just be easier to say that the guy you like said something you actually disagree with than the try so hard to bend it and shape it into something you can kinda sorta defend? Obama meant to say what he said. Some people like it, and some people didn't.


First, I believe you're right, but I want to clarify that it's not a grammatical error. I understand why someone might think so, but I assure you it's not.

Second, even Armstrong won't commit to what he said. He says he honestly doesn't remember. He also says that he *intended* to say "a man," but might have misspoken at the crucial moment. That's much more plausible than supposing that he *intended* to say what he's famously quoted as saying, as that really is a grammatical error: it's not merely redundant, it's rationally senseless. The original intended version is instead profound, as he surely intended for such a momentous event.

Obama's weakness, if you want to call it that, is that he's a complex thinker. That's not to say that what he thinks is good or bad, only that the wheels are always turning, and he's processing even as he speaks. So he'll sometimes derail himself, as various parallel trains of thought compete for primacy in his single linear train of speech. Thinking people do this all the time, it's very common. Compare to Dubya, who strained to excrete a single lucid paragraph, and who seemed unaware when he trod in his own metaphorical verbal dung. (To his credit, he lampooned up this very trait in an entertaining White House Press Dinner speech alongside his comedic doppelganger, the late Steve Bridges.) Bush isn't a stupid man, but he is a simple, often unilinear thinker, which tends to give off the impression that not much is firing was behind those deer-in-the-headlights eyes.
 
2012-08-22 08:14:55 AM  

jonny_q: sorry about that comment... I didn't even get to preview it and got a database error when I tried to post it. I didn't mean to html all over everything.


It's okay -- it washes off. I also goofed. I try to edit on preview, but we all make mistrakes.
 
2012-08-22 08:16:46 AM  

justGreg: the love of money is the root of all evil != money is the root of all evil


Good example, and I agree with the original sentiment. But I find it noteworthy that many of those most keen to offer the correction are those who, from all appearances, are in love with money.
 
2012-08-22 04:42:46 PM  
My favourite *real* quote is Yogi Berra's, "I didn't say all the things I said," about the many misquotes misattributed to him.

Subby's headline is genius. It sounds so very Twainian. He did write something like that once. He received so many photos from people claiming to look like him that he drew up and had printed a form letter reply, something along the lines of, "I believe that you look even more like me than I do myself. I intend to frame your picture and use it to shave by."
 
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