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2012-08-19 10:31:07 PM  
What a beautiful, simple life! Decide what you want to be while you're still a kid. Become that at age 30. Open an office and work in it for 57 years, doing what you love.
 
2012-08-19 11:36:50 PM  
What's rather creepy is that he's been using the same examination tables since he opened his practice. Those things do wear out over time.

Good on him for taking care of the people though.
 
2012-08-19 11:43:42 PM  
But it is the price of a visit that patients find remarkable. Dr Dohner charges just $5 for a check-up - the same rate he's charged for the past three decades

To be absolutely fair, the income of the "average worker" hasn't budged in that time either.

/needs a triple hero tag
 
2012-08-19 11:44:53 PM  
I'm sure glad we don't have this horrifying situation in America.
 
2012-08-20 12:55:50 AM  
Dr Russell Dohner is a hero for undercharging his patients? Good intentions, but I'd be, rationally, wary of being charged only five dollars. Monetary compensation for a service is reflective of the value of that service. I understand that the residents of that town feel as if they are getting excellent service, most likely because they are used to settling for what is available, but you went anywhere else for service and they undercharged like this, you'd probably walk away asking if they really even did anything. Probably a really nice guy, but I can't imagine they are actually getting a real medical examination. Next week's news article: 87 year old doctor found to be operating without a license for past three decades.
 
2012-08-20 01:38:52 AM  

ignite ice: Monetary compensation for a service is reflective of the value of that service.


"Expensive" does not always equal "better". Sometimes you're just plain getting ripped off.
 
2012-08-20 02:39:00 AM  
No argument here,subby. Great find.
 
2012-08-20 02:40:21 AM  

SpaceyCat: What's rather creepy is that he's been using the same examination tables since he opened his practice. Those things do wear out over time.

Good on him for taking care of the people though.


Same speculum, rectal & oral thermometers and rubber gloves too

/I keed
 
2012-08-20 02:40:52 AM  
Moonlight Graham reference
 
2012-08-20 02:46:13 AM  
Doctors charge patients in your country?
 
2012-08-20 02:46:13 AM  

ignite ice: Dr Russell Dohner is a hero for undercharging his patients? Good intentions, but I'd be, rationally, wary of being charged only five dollars. Monetary compensation for a service is reflective of the value of that service. I understand that the residents of that town feel as if they are getting excellent service, most likely because they are used to settling for what is available, but you went anywhere else for service and they undercharged like this, you'd probably walk away asking if they really even did anything. Probably a really nice guy, but I can't imagine they are actually getting a real medical examination. Next week's news article: 87 year old doctor found to be operating without a license for past three decades.


Monetary compensation does not always perfectly reflect of the value of a service.
 
2012-08-20 02:46:24 AM  

ignite ice: Monetary compensation for a service is reflective of the value of that service.


It's rarely the case that this holds true.


Soldiers defending the very freedoms on which you base your life are almost always paid jack shiat while "entertainers" like Tom Cruise make more for one shiatty Mission Impossible movie than a life saving surgeon will make in a decade of saving kids from cancer and birth defects.

It's also true with brand goods. A Coleman rucksack will last you longer than a Louis Vitton bag, but will run you a 1/10 or less of the price.

In fact, judging a service by the price alone in the epitome of why Warren Buffet is rich and you aren't. He knows better than to blindly trust in "You get what you pay for."


A doctor's check up isn't exactly a difficult or lengthy procedure. It rarely takes much time at all, and if there's no problems he doesn't actually and thus can cram quite a few into one hour.

So $5 is probably a little lower than he could reasonably charge, but not exactly a red flag for dismal service. Rather it's a marker of how little effort a check up actually requires on the part of the physician. I used to get my check ups for free.
 
2012-08-20 02:50:35 AM  

ignite ice: Dr Russell Dohner is a hero for undercharging his patients? Good intentions, but I'd be, rationally, wary of being charged only five dollars. Monetary compensation for a service is reflective of the value of that service. I understand that the residents of that town feel as if they are getting excellent service, most likely because they are used to settling for what is available, but you went anywhere else for service and they undercharged like this, you'd probably walk away asking if they really even did anything. Probably a really nice guy, but I can't imagine they are actually getting a real medical examination. Next week's news article: 87 year old doctor found to be operating without a license for past three decades.


You know how I know you have never stepped foot outside of the city? This guy is a breath of fresh air in a world pouted with doctors driven by corporate incentives.
 
2012-08-20 02:51:55 AM  
some hero... he has been overcharging for the last 29 years!
 
2012-08-20 02:55:30 AM  
I see this story every once in a while.

It's a cross between "Doesn't need the income" and "My bedside practice is so pleasant people never sue me"

The attitude of the doctor is a major part in weather or not malpractice is accused. Plus he's literally seen everything before, so if something is out of his range he can make a referral.

I am a major proponent of Nurse Practitioners. They can minimize the load on MD's by intercepting the basic problems.

/Then again I'd favor a monolithic medical system.
 
2012-08-20 02:57:41 AM  
Doctor my ass, bet he doesn't drive a Boxster.
 
2012-08-20 03:02:33 AM  
My guess is he is probably also one of the few doctors that can still get reduced or free service at a lot of the local stores, that also use to happen 30 years ago. It was one of the perks of being a doctor you paid for very little, why? Because you use to not get charged through the butt just to make sure you were healthy.


Becoming a doctor use to be a profession where you made a modest salary but you had the respect of the people. Now doctors would rather $$$ and expect the same amount of respect but rarely actually deserve that respect...kinda like how journalists have gone down hill too.
 
2012-08-20 03:03:13 AM  
when i was a lad Dr.Pink had an office downtown. he was in his 80's. even in my extreme youth i knew Dr.Pink was well ready for retirement the first time i saw him for a Physical. after grabbing my tender young joint in search of a hernia the old Doc brought his fingers to his nose and breathed in deeply, temporarily lost in a world all his own. freaked me out; i remember it like it was yesterday. what a weirdo.
 
2012-08-20 03:04:31 AM  
Tab?
 
2012-08-20 03:05:15 AM  
Old news about old person is still old. Olds don't cancel out.
 
2012-08-20 03:06:39 AM  
Even if I ate all my apples, I'd go see this doctor.
 
2012-08-20 03:08:38 AM  

BarkingUnicorn: What a beautiful, simple life! Decide what you want to be while you're still a kid. Become that at age 30. Open an office and work in it for 57 years, doing what you love.


57 years ago he didnt have 200k in student loan debt.
 
2012-08-20 03:14:15 AM  
Philanthropy isn't dead, it's just more uncommon nowadays. .
 
2012-08-20 03:16:09 AM  

LowbrowDeluxe: Tab?


Don't mind if I do.

trademarkmusings.files.wordpress.com
 
2012-08-20 03:17:06 AM  

Unknown_Poltroon: BarkingUnicorn: What a beautiful, simple life! Decide what you want to be while you're still a kid. Become that at age 30. Open an office and work in it for 57 years, doing what you love.

57 years ago he didnt have 200k in student loan debt.


57 years ago, humours were still a thing you studied, the germ theory of disease was considered a passing fad, and trepannation was only starting to be looked on with some concern. This guy is charging 5 bucks because he probably knows less medicine than my wife, an RN.
 
2012-08-20 03:22:18 AM  

ignite ice: Dr Russell Dohner is a hero for undercharging his patients? Good intentions, but I'd be, rationally, wary of being charged only five dollars. Monetary compensation for a service is reflective of the value of that service. I understand that the residents of that town feel as if they are getting excellent service, most likely because they are used to settling for what is available, but you went anywhere else for service and they undercharged like this, you'd probably walk away asking if they really even did anything. Probably a really nice guy, but I can't imagine they are actually getting a real medical examination. Next week's news article: 87 year old doctor found to be operating without a license for past three decades.


Or at the very least, practicing without proper insurance.
 
2012-08-20 03:26:37 AM  
At 87 years old, he's probably still prescribing laudanum and castor oil.
 
2012-08-20 03:28:11 AM  

LordOfThePings: LowbrowDeluxe: Tab?

Don't mind if I do.


What is this? They have it at the gas station around the corner where I go for cold diet cokes sometimes and I hadn't seen it before.
 
2012-08-20 03:38:22 AM  

doloresonthedottedline: What is this? They have it at the gas station around the corner where I go for cold diet cokes sometimes and I hadn't seen it before.


Diet cola. I have no idea how it is different than diet Coke.
 
2012-08-20 03:38:52 AM  

fusillade762: I'm sure glad we don't have this horrifying situation in America.


In your mind have you excised just Rushville from the United State, or the entire state of Illinois?
 
2012-08-20 03:41:48 AM  
Farking Rushville Illinois made it to Fark, hell even BBC picked it up. About 60 miles from me, Rushville is.
 
2012-08-20 03:57:52 AM  

ignite ice: Dr Russell Dohner is a hero for undercharging his patients? Good intentions, but I'd be, rationally, wary of being charged only five dollars. Monetary compensation for a service is reflective of the value of that service. I understand that the residents of that town feel as if they are getting excellent service, most likely because they are used to settling for what is available, but you went anywhere else for service and they undercharged like this, you'd probably walk away asking if they really even did anything. Probably a really nice guy, but I can't imagine they are actually getting a real medical examination. Next week's news article: 87 year old doctor found to be operating without a license for past three decades.


When I was a kid I shoveled snow in the winter to make money. I charged $5 to do the sidewalk in front of the house ($10 if it was a corner house), $5 for a short driveway, $10 for a medium, and $15 for a long driveway. The exception was on elderly neighbor. I shoveled his sidewalk and long driveway for $5. Why? Because he could not afford anything more than that and was too old to do the work himself. So, I did it for him for $5 (and I am getting a real kick out of the story because of this!). And do you know what? I did the exact same quality of work that I did for everyone else.
 
2012-08-20 03:59:05 AM  
I disagree. We don't need a Hero tab, we already have Politics.
 
2012-08-20 04:06:54 AM  
Did he have only one at bat in the Majors?
 
2012-08-20 04:12:04 AM  

TerminalEchoes: At 87 years old, he's probably still prescribing laudanum


Well I think I found my new primary care physician.
 
2012-08-20 04:45:57 AM  
TF has a Hero tab now?!
 
2012-08-20 05:24:12 AM  

xant: Unknown_Poltroon: BarkingUnicorn: What a beautiful, simple life! Decide what you want to be while you're still a kid. Become that at age 30. Open an office and work in it for 57 years, doing what you love.

57 years ago he didnt have 200k in student loan debt.

57 years ago, humours were still a thing you studied, the germ theory of disease was considered a passing fad, and trepannation was only starting to be looked on with some concern. This guy is charging 5 bucks because he probably knows less medicine than my wife, an RN.


I'm pretty sure in 1955 the state of the medical art was good enough to cover colds, broken bones and the occasional collicky infant. This guy is a family doctor. He does checkups and house calls. He's not being paid to cure cancer.

Plus he hasn't been trained to push unnecessary drugs for imaginary conditions created by big pharma's marketing department.
 
2012-08-20 05:24:37 AM  

LindenFark: fusillade762: I'm sure glad we don't have this horrifying situation in America.

In your mind have you excised just Rushville from the United State, or the entire state of Illinois?


I see English words there but I cannot tell how your post is a response to my sarcasm.
 
2012-08-20 05:32:41 AM  
Meanwhile, last checkup I got that I paid out of pocket cost me 15$, about three years back.

Interestingly, the last checkup that wasn't out of pocket also cost me 15$, it just also cost my insurance company 135$ on top of that.

A lot of what makes preventative care expensive is that doctors literally have to screw the insurance providers at every opportunity to counter the shenanigans of the providers and actually net money from things they do on insurance. Doctors tend to be rather nice people by default and will actually not charge much when they're dealing with someone that deals with them in good faith (i.e. out-of-pocket, since literally every insurance company is actively out to screw them and medicaid is even worse).
 
2012-08-20 05:48:33 AM  

fusillade762: LindenFark: fusillade762: I'm sure glad we don't have this horrifying situation in America.

In your mind have you excised just Rushville from the United State, or the entire state of Illinois?

I see English words there but I cannot tell how your post is a response to my sarcasm.


This situation takes place in Rushville, Illinois. You should be sarcastically horrified because it is in America. As is, your post reads as: "I'm sure glad this isn't happening."
 
2012-08-20 06:24:01 AM  

LindenFark: fusillade762: LindenFark: fusillade762: I'm sure glad we don't have this horrifying situation in America.

In your mind have you excised just Rushville from the United State, or the entire state of Illinois?

I see English words there but I cannot tell how your post is a response to my sarcasm.

This situation takes place in Rushville, Illinois. You should be sarcastically horrified because it is in America. As is, your post reads as: "I'm sure glad this isn't happening."


Oh carp. My bad. I just assumed since it was a BBC link that this was a story about a place in Britain. Please ignore everything I've posted in this thread. I freely admit that I have been an idiot and beg your apologies.
 
2012-08-20 06:26:42 AM  
"Apologies" above should read "Forgiveness" or something similar.

I need to go to bed now.
 
2012-08-20 06:48:41 AM  

ignite ice: Dr Russell Dohner is a hero for undercharging his patients? Good intentions, but I'd be, rationally, wary of being charged only five dollars. Monetary compensation for a service is reflective of the value of that service. I understand that the residents of that town feel as if they are getting excellent service, most likely because they are used to settling for what is available, but you went anywhere else for service and they undercharged like this, you'd probably walk away asking if they really even did anything. Probably a really nice guy, but I can't imagine they are actually getting a real medical examination. Next week's news article: 87 year old doctor found to be operating without a license for past three decades.


I was looking at the mounds of paperwork strewn all over the place in particular. I find myself hoping none of that is patient records... or unpaid bills for that matter. There's a significant difference between "quaint" and "gee Mrs. Tannenbaum, we're just not sure where your Medical History went."


Mock26: And do you know what? I did the exact same quality of work that I did for everyone else.


So, because some kid shoveling driveways for mad money once did a nice thing for an old man in his neighborhood, I should stop scrutinizing what I get out of a service based on an unusually low price tag? I mean, it seems pretty sensible to me. The Health Care market and the market for getting your driveway shoveled by local children is surely the exact same sort of market, after all...


FatalDischarge: You know how I know you have never stepped foot outside of the city?


I dunno, I live in a rural town with a population of 2000 and I really don't think this has anything to do with what sort of community you live in.


doglover: It's rarely the case that this holds true.

Soldiers defending the very freedoms on which you base your life are almost always paid jack shiat while "entertainers" like Tom Cruise make more for one shiatty Mission Impossible movie than a life saving surgeon will make in a decade of saving kids from cancer and birth defects.


I've heard this argument before. I don't think it negates the wisdom of what ignite ice said. The plain fact of the matter is that Firefighters, Police, Soldiers, and so on don't have a stadium, or many many theaters full of people around the country paying to watch them do what they do- and many times over. And when you think about it, even if they did, all those people would likely do is get in the damn way anyway.

doglover: Warren Buffet is rich and you aren't. He knows better than to blindly trust in "You get what you pay for."


"Blindly"?

You mean kinda like blindly assuming that paying less for a service is only a matter of how "nice" your service provider is being to you rather than considering the possibility that there are less altruistic motives or factors involved?

Look, it's not so much that I'd say this doctor is running some sort of half-ass outfit here. Hell, all things being equal, if there is some sort of shenanigan going on here, it's not likely even willfully malicious. The most probable explanations tend to be the simpler ones- like out-and-out neglect, for instance (recall all those piles of paper I mentioned?). So no, it's not like just because he's charging a fiver a visit means that- beyond the shadow of a doubt- there's something fishy going on here, but on the other hand, I'd say there's cause to stop and question the situation.

This is mainly because of another bit of ageless wisdom about commerce: caveat emptor.
 
2012-08-20 06:51:28 AM  
Trim your nails much? like little daggers at the end of each finger and thumb....

/good on him for it being about the healing and not money, power or status in the community.
 
2012-08-20 07:10:27 AM  

ignite ice: Monetary compensation for a service is reflective of the value of that service.


No, no, it's generally reflective of the cost of providing the service plus what the provider can get away with charging you for it. Some providers decide that they'll retain customers by not wringing every cent out of them, even if it means they might eat a loss once in awhile. And if providers like this guy can still stay in business by charging five bucks a visit, more power to him
 
2012-08-20 07:28:43 AM  
Even after no fewer than 3 people come out and point out that igniteice is a troll, he still gets bites.

THIS is why I say he's awesome.
 
2012-08-20 07:32:32 AM  
I am a little concerned about those fingernails? Can't he see them?
 
2012-08-20 07:43:43 AM  
Now, hold it. In the video, at about 1:30 in, there's a picture of what is presumably his med school class. Next to his pic is a guy named Doctor. So somewhere there is (was) a Doctor Doctor? WIN.
 
2012-08-20 07:47:47 AM  

CognaciousThunk: Now, hold it. In the video, at about 1:30 in, there's a picture of what is presumably his med school class. Next to his pic is a guy named Doctor. So somewhere there is (was) a Doctor Doctor? WIN.


Nice find.

lh6.ggpht.com
 
2012-08-20 08:11:08 AM  
I'll bet he uses leeches and castor oil for everything ...
He's all like ...
"Got a toothache sonny? Here, have some leeches"
"Oh, it look like you are pregnant. Better apply some castor oil ..."
 
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