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(Daily Mail)   91-year-old WWII RAF fighter pilot takes the controls of a Spitfire one last time. "It was an amazing experience. I can only describe it as being like you jumping back into your first car and feeling at home"   (dailymail.co.uk) divider line 124
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2012-08-20 06:05:50 AM
Did he make a clean landing?

Depends.
 
2012-08-20 06:16:32 AM
Np Fark snark on this one. This story is full of awesome!
 
2012-08-20 06:21:43 AM
Unfortunately, he then fell asleep and went through a crowded farmer's market at 300 miles per hour.
 
2012-08-20 06:23:01 AM
TFA: "I can only describe it as being like you jumping back into your first car"

Now I'm imagining an '83 LTD II being gracelessly flung across the southern English sky. Maybe a faint trail of rust and loose nuts behind it.

/It's still very cool that the old pilot got a chance to revisit the Spitfire.
 
2012-08-20 06:27:28 AM
Dude looks good for a 91 year old.
 
2012-08-20 06:27:59 AM
Damn. Good for him.

And the man doesn't look a day over 70.
 
2012-08-20 06:37:12 AM
The Spitfire, the most beautiful thing man has ever constructed.

I wonder if he went, "Look Ma, no Hans!"
 
2012-08-20 06:41:08 AM
There really is something about the Spitfire that is just beautiful, and I often wonder if I just think that because it's English so I have been told from a very early age that that is beautiful, or whether it simply is, and everyone can see it?
 
2012-08-20 06:46:22 AM

Slaxl: There really is something about the Spitfire that is just beautiful, and I often wonder if I just think that because it's English so I have been told from a very early age that that is beautiful, or whether it simply is, and everyone can see it?


I can see it too, mind you I'm also British. But overall, I just look at it and want to cry it's such a gorgeous machine. I'm also partial to the De Havilland Mosquito, but that's because it's made of wood yet was very precise in its infliction of damage.
 
2012-08-20 06:46:54 AM

Slaxl: There really is something about the Spitfire that is just beautiful, and I often wonder if I just think that because it's English so I have been told from a very early age that that is beautiful, or whether it simply is, and everyone can see it?


I can, and I'm american.

Saw one up close at the smithsonian, thought it looked gorgeous. Tried to explain to my friend what these planes and the men who flew them were owed. Not sure he really got it.

Awesome story, subby.
 
2012-08-20 06:49:56 AM
At the time, the former pilot joked: 'I just wish the Luftwaffe had been so caring.'

So full of win.
 
2012-08-20 07:00:38 AM
Need to break out the Battle of Britain DVD.

"Were on our own, we've been playing for time.......and it's running out!"
 
Heb
2012-08-20 07:07:59 AM
Spitfires always remind me of when I was a kid. Probably because I spent so much time with my hands glued together when trying to make these

Link
 
2012-08-20 07:13:20 AM

Slaxl: There really is something about the Spitfire that is just beautiful, and I often wonder if I just think that because it's English so I have been told from a very early age that that is beautiful, or whether it simply is, and everyone can see it?


Nope. The Spit is a beautiful plane, and not because it's English. For example, look at the Hurricane: They's shiat planes for remtards on free dinners.
 
2012-08-20 07:16:07 AM

r1niceboy: Slaxl: There really is something about the Spitfire that is just beautiful, and I often wonder if I just think that because it's English so I have been told from a very early age that that is beautiful, or whether it simply is, and everyone can see it?

I can see it too, mind you I'm also British. But overall, I just look at it and want to cry it's such a gorgeous machine. I'm also partial to the De Havilland Mosquito, but that's because it's made of wood yet was very precise in its infliction of damage.


I think it's pretty universally thought of as one beautiful airplane. Other planes were powerful, nimble, adaptable, heavily armed, or heavily armoured, but nowhere could you find an airplane as pretty as the Spitfire.
 
2012-08-20 07:24:36 AM

dittybopper: Slaxl: There really is something about the Spitfire that is just beautiful, and I often wonder if I just think that because it's English so I have been told from a very early age that that is beautiful, or whether it simply is, and everyone can see it?

Nope. The Spit is a beautiful plane, and not because it's English. For example, look at the Hurricane: They's shiat planes for remtards on free dinners.


Well I wasn't saying that it was its Englishness that makes it beautiful, but that because i'm English I'm subjected to more pressure to revere it. Glad to see that that's not the case. Although now I'm wondering if it's considered beautiful because it's an icon, or if it's an icon because it's beautiful... go!
 
2012-08-20 07:24:50 AM
I saw a one hour documentary on one of these guys flying a single seater Spitfire about 10 or 15 years ago. Could even have been the same guy. Within a couple of minutes he was pulling barrel rolls and other manoeuvres that would make the average person throw up or possibly even black out. Mind you, he was a relatively spritely 75 or so years of age.

It was like he'd been given his youthful body back. One of the best hours of TV I've ever seen.

I'd imagine that after flying in those dogfights the skills got hardcoded into their neurons like steel, if that makes sense. They say you never forget how to ride a bike, but if your youth had been spent riding your BMX with death always an instant away it would be even harder to forget.

/as a random aside, I am really happy right now because I just managed to get rid of a really farking nasty virus on my PC. Thank fark for System Restore, for around 30 minutes there I thought my computer was completely and utterly screwed
 
2012-08-20 07:25:03 AM

bakarocket: r1niceboy: Slaxl: There really is something about the Spitfire that is just beautiful, and I often wonder if I just think that because it's English so I have been told from a very early age that that is beautiful, or whether it simply is, and everyone can see it?

I can see it too, mind you I'm also British. But overall, I just look at it and want to cry it's such a gorgeous machine. I'm also partial to the De Havilland Mosquito, but that's because it's made of wood yet was very precise in its infliction of damage.

I think it's pretty universally thought of as one beautiful airplane. Other planes were powerful, nimble, adaptable, heavily armed, or heavily armoured, but nowhere could you find an airplane as pretty as the Spitfire.


Except, of course, for the Mignet Pou-de-Ciel.
 
2012-08-20 07:25:22 AM
91 and flying a Spitfire.
Again.

/Good lord I feel small.
 
2012-08-20 07:32:17 AM

dittybopper: bakarocket: r1niceboy: Slaxl: There really is something about the Spitfire that is just beautiful, and I often wonder if I just think that because it's English so I have been told from a very early age that that is beautiful, or whether it simply is, and everyone can see it?

I can see it too, mind you I'm also British. But overall, I just look at it and want to cry it's such a gorgeous machine. I'm also partial to the De Havilland Mosquito, but that's because it's made of wood yet was very precise in its infliction of damage.

I think it's pretty universally thought of as one beautiful airplane. Other planes were powerful, nimble, adaptable, heavily armed, or heavily armoured, but nowhere could you find an airplane as pretty as the Spitfire.

Except, of course, for the Mignet Pou-de-Ciel.


Oh God I want one.
 
2012-08-20 07:45:43 AM
Looks great for 91. And that is what a hero looks like.

Thank you, Mr. Carter!
 
2012-08-20 07:52:00 AM
HEY GUYS WHATS GOIN' ON IN THIS THREAD?

i1172.photobucket.com

i1172.photobucket.com

i1172.photobucket.com
 
2012-08-20 07:54:47 AM
Obligatory Spitfire flyby clip (NSFW language)
 
2012-08-20 07:58:37 AM
I wonder if remembered how to banter?
 
2012-08-20 08:01:42 AM
Best use of the Hero tag I've seen in a while.
 
2012-08-20 08:02:21 AM

Impressive story! Gonna' build a Spitfire next - My last project:

i1125.photobucket.com
 
2012-08-20 08:06:13 AM

Sinclair.laker: Impressive story! Gonna' build a Spitfire next - My last project:

[i1125.photobucket.com image 850x700]


wow thats kool!!

do you have any plans on how to make that? my son would love to build that.
or any other plans you have would be kool. ill give you my email if you do
 
2012-08-20 08:18:12 AM

Freakin Rican: Sinclair.laker: Impressive story! Gonna' build a Spitfire next - My last project:

[i1125.photobucket.com image 850x700]

wow thats kool!!

do you have any plans on how to make that? my son would love to build that.
or any other plans you have would be kool. ill give you my email if you do


You can order plans at: Link

It takes some patience (especially the first one or two planes,) but is an enjoyable and rewarding hobby....

/and you get to drink the beer
//just sayin'
 
2012-08-20 08:28:27 AM

TheVeryDeadIanMartin: I wonder if remembered how to banter?


Luckily he didn't prang his kite right in the how's your father.
 
2012-08-20 08:31:42 AM
Dont mind me, ill just sit quietly in the corner and be the highest scoring fighter in the history of man.

i1172.photobucket.com
 
2012-08-20 08:48:22 AM
The Spitfire is a beautiful plane, for its looks, its performance, and its history and for those who flew it bravely. The P-51 Mustang is another beautiful aircraft...it wasn't the most durable fighter (That would likely have to be the P-47), but it was, as they said, the "Cadillac of the skies." Also, it makes this amazing howling sound, like some living creature, on a high speed pass.
 
2012-08-20 08:48:59 AM

GF named my left testicle thundercles: Dont mind me, ill just sit quietly in the corner and be the highest scoring fighter in the history of man.

[i1172.photobucket.com image 550x400]


Everyone respects the German planes, but you can't exactly call 'em beautiful. They're like...sharks. Sleek and killerific. The Spitfire is like a beautiful woman: voluptuous, round, and can turn on a dime. 

Like I said, there were some awesome planes on all sides, only one of them was beautiful.

/Have to admit a certain fondness for the F4U though.
//And the Me262.
 
2012-08-20 08:50:08 AM

Sinclair.laker: Impressive story! Gonna' build a Spitfire next - My last project:

[i1125.photobucket.com image 850x700]


Please use Boddington's cans for the Spit'
 
2012-08-20 08:55:03 AM

GF named my left testicle thundercles: Dont mind me, ill just sit quietly in the corner and be the highest scoring fighter in the history of man.

[i1172.photobucket.com image 550x400]


Of course, most of those kills belonged to about 10 or so German pilots who served on the Eastern Front and got to bag lots and lots of obsolete Soviet aircraft piloted by rookies whose training had consisted of the following exchange:

Commissar: Next twelve recruits, get in planes. You go fly. If you come back, you pass test.
Recruit: But comrade commissar, we have no instruction?
Commissar: Eh, instruction is expensive. Polikarpovs are cheap. You go fly.

It's easy to get lots of kills when you're fighting the farking Zerg.
 
2012-08-20 08:57:37 AM
What's truly amazing to me is the expansion of capabilities that the basic Spitfire design accomodated.
From the first models to the last, engine output doubled, firepower more than doubled, speed increased more than 50%, and time to climb to 20,000 ft was cut by almost half.
 
2012-08-20 08:58:08 AM

r1niceboy: The Spitfire, the most beautiful thing man has ever constructed.

I wonder if he went, "Look Ma, no Hans!"


Sorry, the P-51 begs to differ.
 
2012-08-20 09:02:29 AM
Just a pause while we debate about the beautiful aircraft of history...

...This guy is a real hero. I'd love to sit and have a pint and a chat with him. I bet he's got some GREAT stories. Our WWII vets are passing away quickly, we need to talk to them and record every story and firsthand account we possibly can.

...now back to the airplane pr0n!
 
2012-08-20 09:03:42 AM

CheatCommando: r1niceboy: The Spitfire, the most beautiful thing man has ever constructed.

I wonder if he went, "Look Ma, no Hans!"

Sorry, the P-51 begs to differ.


Well, the ugly ones always have to beg.

/Totally joking. It's awesome too.
 
2012-08-20 09:05:37 AM
I also happen to think that the P-38 and the DeHavlliand Vampire are beautiful fighters as well. Someone should compile a list of the best looking airplanes of the past...if you include things other than fighters, the C-47/DC-3 and the Lockheed Constallation would also have to be included.
 
2012-08-20 09:10:32 AM

Slaxl: There really is something about the Spitfire that is just beautiful, and I often wonder if I just think that because it's English so I have been told from a very early age that that is beautiful, or whether it simply is, and everyone can see it?


Here's another American that thinks it is a beautiful fighter - at least until they went to the teardrop canopy in the later marks.

GF named my left testicle thundercles: Dont mind me, ill just sit quietly in the corner and be the highest scoring fighter in the history of man.

[i1172.photobucket.com image 550x400]


Nothing wrong with liking the 109, but becoming the highest scoring fighter wasn't too hard when you consider it was at war as Germany's principal fighter from Spain in 1937 until the last day of the European war - and that's not to mention the various other European users and an encore performance in 1948 with the Israeli air force.

If I had to guess, I'd suspect it has also been shot more than any other type.
 
2012-08-20 09:10:53 AM

StarshipAngel: I also happen to think that the P-38 and the DeHavlliand Vampire are beautiful fighters as well. Someone should compile a list of the best looking airplanes of the past...if you include things other than fighters, the C-47/DC-3 and the Lockheed Constallation would also have to be included.


As soon as I read, "list of the best looking airplanes" the first one that popped into my head was the DC-3. There used to be one parked on the Tarmac at the Jack Tar Village on Grand Bahama when I was a kid...back in 1987-1988 or so. While the rest of the family was in the ocean and pigging out, my Dad and I were sitting in the cockpit pretending to fly.

Man, I love that plane. If I ever got rich, that'd be the first thing I'd buy.
 
2012-08-20 09:11:02 AM
Quite aside from the airframe, the Merlin engine - used in both the Spitfire and the Mustang - was a remarkable piece of design.
 
2012-08-20 09:11:15 AM
I never had much love for the spitfire - although it turned slightly better then the Me109, this was about it - both planes were near close in speed, range and alt for the entire war.
Spitfire might be beautiful to some, and its Merlin engine is unique in its own class - but I compare it to an A6M2 - listen to the Sakae engine fire up - both simply have no muscle.

Now listen to an Pratt & Whitney R-2800 fire up - listen to those cylinders turning over and raw power.

Spitfire would be a Beatle Bug looking all clean and pretty - where the F4u Corsair would be a ferrari, Brits can have their cute little bird, I'll take the manly aircraft with raw power. You know its pretty bad when the Japanese crap their pants upon hearing a corsair - and they
truly believed they were invisible.

If you don't know already: here's a spitfire starting up:
Link

Now a Man's Bird a Corsair:
Link

(I do love the Skyraider at the start of the corsair video, a ground pounder with an even BIGGER p&w engine)
 
2012-08-20 09:14:54 AM

Misconduc: I never had much love for the spitfire - although it turned slightly better then the Me109, this was about it - both planes were near close in speed, range and alt for the entire war.
Spitfire might be beautiful to some, and its Merlin engine is unique in its own class - but I compare it to an A6M2 - listen to the Sakae engine fire up - both simply have no muscle.

Now listen to an Pratt & Whitney R-2800 fire up - listen to those cylinders turning over and raw power.

Spitfire would be a Beatle Bug looking all clean and pretty - where the F4u Corsair would be a ferrari, Brits can have their cute little bird, I'll take the manly aircraft with raw power. You know its pretty bad when the Japanese crap their pants upon hearing a corsair - and they
truly believed they were invisible.

If you don't know already: here's a spitfire starting up:
Link

Now a Man's Bird a Corsair:
Link

(I do love the Skyraider at the start of the corsair video, a ground pounder with an even BIGGER p&w engine)


That may be the first time in history that someone has implied that the Spitfire was a bit girly.
 
2012-08-20 09:23:23 AM
just my 2 cents,
but i have always been a huge fan of the Stuka.
i find beauty in function.

and i am no nazi lover, i am jewish.
 
2012-08-20 09:24:13 AM

werekoala: Slaxl: There really is something about the Spitfire that is just beautiful, and I often wonder if I just think that because it's English so I have been told from a very early age that that is beautiful, or whether it simply is, and everyone can see it?

I can, and I'm american.

Saw one up close at the smithsonian, thought it looked gorgeous. Tried to explain to my friend what these planes and the men who flew them were owed. Not sure he really got it.

Awesome story, subby.


Arguing whether the Spitfire or, say, the P-51 Mustang is more beautiful is like arguing whether
Monica Bellucci or Halle Berry are more beautiful.

Both are gorgeous in their own ways.

I am more a fan of the 'Stang, but that doesn't mean I think the Spitfire is ugly.
 
2012-08-20 09:29:12 AM
I'd comapre the P&W radial engine more to the American musclecar engine, like the chrysler 426 Hemi. I've got a 1976 Plymouth Gran Fury police package car with the hi-po 440 engine in it, and a cold start does even sound a bit like an old radial engine firing up. The Merlin would be more comparable to the Ferrari (or Jag!) V-12. And, the Spit and the P-51 were not in the least bit girly. They might not sound the best firing up, but under power in the sky, that's pure merlin motor music there. I like them both...but, there's no comparing, as they're both completely different schools of engineering and design.
 
2012-08-20 09:29:45 AM

bakarocket: dittybopper: bakarocket: r1niceboy: Slaxl: There really is something about the Spitfire that is just beautiful, and I often wonder if I just think that because it's English so I have been told from a very early age that that is beautiful, or whether it simply is, and everyone can see it?

I can see it too, mind you I'm also British. But overall, I just look at it and want to cry it's such a gorgeous machine. I'm also partial to the De Havilland Mosquito, but that's because it's made of wood yet was very precise in its infliction of damage.

I think it's pretty universally thought of as one beautiful airplane. Other planes were powerful, nimble, adaptable, heavily armed, or heavily armoured, but nowhere could you find an airplane as pretty as the Spitfire.

Except, of course, for the Mignet Pou-de-Ciel.

Oh God I want one.


Just make sure you get one built after 1939.

I'll see your 'Flying Flea' raise you a P-38:

api.ning.com
 
2012-08-20 09:31:01 AM
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/rollin'
//turnin'
///diving
/do it again
 
2012-08-20 09:33:13 AM
My first car was a 95 Ford Taurus. So I take it, it flew like a boat held together with twisty ties and super glue.
 
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