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(Politico)   You're a member of Congress visiting Israel. Do you: A) Visit the Wailing Wall? B) Discuss invading Iran? C) Get drunk and go coed skinny dipping in the Sea of Galilee?   (politico.com) divider line 198
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2012-08-20 05:30:11 AM
The story here isn't that the Republicans jumped in the Sea of Galilee nude or semi-nude, or even that they did it on someone else's dime, but that Cantor went apeshiat over it. The Republican leadership is becoming almost Puritanical in the way they want everyone to behave, aren't they?
 
2012-08-20 05:44:39 AM

xlbrooklyn: I'm having a hard time giving a shiat. Were the off the clock / done for the day? Apparently, yes. So what's the problem here?


I'm sure that would completely alleviate any diplomatic relations concerns. Oh, members of your democratically elected legislative body went skinny dipping at a religious holy site? Ah, that's ok, it was after 5 pm. Can you imagine if these were Democrats? The gnashing of the teeth would be heard for miles.
 
2012-08-20 05:44:39 AM
If you go to Israel and don't swim naked in Lake Kineret/Sea of G., you're doing it wrong. Good to know US right wingers can unclench and relax like normal human beings once in a while.
 
2012-08-20 05:48:21 AM

Shvetz: xlbrooklyn: I'm having a hard time giving a shiat. Were the off the clock / done for the day? Apparently, yes. So what's the problem here?

I'm sure that would completely alleviate any diplomatic relations concerns. Oh, members of your democratically elected legislative body went skinny dipping at a religious holy site? Ah, that's ok, it was after 5 pm. Can you imagine if these were Democrats? The gnashing of the teeth would be heard for miles.


It's not a holy site. It's a lake, with beaches, where people go swimming.
 
2012-08-20 06:02:22 AM
Where is the hero tag?
 
2012-08-20 06:19:59 AM
Some people have an odd moral perspective. They apoplogize profusely for taking a drink and a skinny dip, but boast proudly of having raped a nation's middle class.
 
2012-08-20 06:36:56 AM
That is better than the high ranking members of the catholic church flying first class to a photo opportunity with children being forced to work in stone quarry
 
2012-08-20 06:39:53 AM

Harry_Seldon: Are you ever going to let this go?


Show some respect. We're talking about a giant in the field of consequence-free pantsless staggering-around drunkenness here.
 
2012-08-20 06:41:49 AM
The FBI looked into whether any inappropriate behavior occurred, but the interviews do not appear to have resulted in any formal allegations of wrongdoing.

OK, next.
 
2012-08-20 06:46:40 AM

FlashHarry: i really don't give a fark, but i wonder how republicans would feel if a similar cadre of freshmen dems were skinny dipping in, say, france.


Or you know, was a D in front of their name instead of an R.
 
2012-08-20 06:49:03 AM
You're a member of Congress visiting Israel. Do you: A) Visit the Wailing Wall? B) Discuss invading Iran? C) Get drunk and go coed skinny dipping in the Sea of Galilee?

I'd do all of the above, but in reverse order. A) First get roaring drunk and have some fun with the local coeds. B) Drunkenly start shouting in public about how Israel and the U.S. should kick Iran's ass. C) Finally pass out at the Wailing Wall in a sloppy, crying, drunken mess.
 
2012-08-20 06:51:57 AM
Eh. That's actually fairly human of him/them.

I think the true controversy is the fact that they went en mass as a privately funding fact funding and ass kicking mission to a foreign power.
 
2012-08-20 06:58:35 AM
Isn't this the "Kiss My Ass, this is a holy site" party?
 
2012-08-20 07:07:39 AM
So ... they went skinny dipping with each other? No cute IDF girls or anything? Why do I care about this?

/only skimmed the article
//Photo gallery of "swim participants" was very disappointing.
 
2012-08-20 07:22:42 AM
The Republican Party: where there's nothing too controversial about saying that pregnant "rape" victims must have secretly been whores, but skinny dipping in a lake halfway around the world is a national disgrace.
 
2012-08-20 07:24:47 AM
This was a holy site, which is why they were called to do it by Him. Now that they are bathed in the holy waters of the birthplace of Christ, every decision they make will be the right one and if you vote against them, you are voting against Jesus.
 
2012-08-20 07:25:51 AM
August 11, 2011
Just when you think your contempt for Congress could not get any higher, our elected representatives manage to do something to ratchet it up another notch. After congressional shenanigans helped spark a major market sell-off and sparked fears of a double-dip recession, you'd think every single one of them would be heading back to their districts to figure out what their constituents wanted and to try to explain how they were going to help make things better. Or maybe a few of them would even spend the recess taking a crash course in macroeconomics and public finance, so that they could start exercising their public duties more responsibly.

But what did 81 of them decide to do instead? You guessed it: they are off on junkets to Israel, paid for by the American Israel Education Foundation, an AIPAC spinoff that has been funding such trips for years. That's right: during the August recess nearly a fifth of the U.S. Congress will visit a single country whose entire population is less than that of New York City.

Such behavior is especially disturbing in light of our current woes; even Greta Van Susteren of Fox News found it appalling (h/t Mondoweiss here and here). But it's not really a new pattern: in recent decades about 10 percent of all Congressional trips overseas have been to Israel, even though it is only one of the nearly 200 countries in the world.

Why do Congresspersons do this, especially at a moment when it is obvious that they ought to be worrying about conditions here at home? Mostly because such junkets burnish a legislator's 'pro-Israel' credentials and facilitate campaign fundraising. Such trips also expose these visitors to the policy preferences and basic worldview of Israel's leaders, which is of course why AIEF pays for them.

August 10, 2011
This week's reports that 20 percent of the U.S. Congress will be visiting Israel this month are stunning. Eighty-one members of Congress -- two thirds of them Republicans, 47 of them freshmen -- apparently think it is more important to be visiting Israel than it is to be at home dealing with the worst economic crisis in modern memory. America's economy is in flames and these guys are taking lobbyist-funded trips to what, watch Israelis take to the streets to protest the high-cost of living in that country?

August 8, 2011
Perhaps seeking a salty dip in the Dead Sea to end a stressful debt debate, nearly one in five members of the House in Representatives will use their summer recess period to visit Israel, The Jerusalem Post reports.
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Almost all of the week-long trips are sponsored by the American Israel Education Foundation, which promotes similar trips for Congress every other August, the Post reports.

House Democratic Whip Steny Hoyer will head the Democratic delegation, and House Majority Leader Eric Cantor will lead one of the Republican groups.

American Israel Education Foundation is a supporting organization of the American Israel Public Affairs Committee, or AIPAC, which describes itself on its website as "America's leading pro-Israel lobby...AIPAC works with both Democratic and Republican political leaders to enact public policy that strengthens the vital U.S.-Israel relationship."
 
2012-08-20 07:26:52 AM
FTA:
These GOP sources confirmed the following freshmen lawmakers also went swimming that night: Rep. Steve Southerland (R-Fla.) and his daughter

Does anyone know if Southerland's daughter is hot? Skinny dipping with your daughter would be creepy unless she was hot. I guess since they were the "Holy Land", they could have been acting out Genesis 19:30-38.
 
2012-08-20 07:29:03 AM

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2012-08-20 07:31:24 AM
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Once more
 
2012-08-20 07:32:21 AM
Besides needing a gallon of the brain bleach, I was having a hard time giving a shiat as well, until I realize these were family value, up in my uterus, anti-gay, biblical law Republicans.

/ I am shocked, shocked at the hypocrisy.
 
2012-08-20 07:37:23 AM

xlbrooklyn: I'm having a hard time giving a shiat. Were the off the clock / done for the day? Apparently, yes. So what's the problem here?


Yeah. It 's not like he's an elected politician representing the US. You want to talk outrage, let's talk about Obama's hip hop barbecue. His wife's baby daddy gave her a terrorist fist bump.

This guy is white and married and Christian and defending Israel, all the sacred American whargarrbl that Hiphopbongo is not.
 
2012-08-20 07:37:35 AM
Why did GOP leadership scold the congressman for their behavior if nothing bad happened?
 
2012-08-20 07:42:00 AM
Thanks LarryDan43

Which of his daughters does Southerland strut around nude in front of?

t0.gstatic.com

I think the one on the far right. The one he gave the pearl necklace to.
 
2012-08-20 07:42:02 AM
They might offend a bunch of European colonialists running an apartheid state.
 
2012-08-20 07:42:46 AM
The outrage should have been, as Van Susteren said last year,
Please tell me this is not so: that while we are in crisis, 84 Members of Congress are getting an all expense paid trip to Israel instead of returning to DC to work on our economic crisis (or even review the March GAO report which outlines billions of dollars of waste that they are ignoring but you are paying????) How could they?

Of course, that would mean the collective US media would look after the collective concerns of the US public in a time of crisis.
 
2012-08-20 07:45:50 AM
I am allf or going after them if they didn't pay for their drinks (either govt or donor dime, crucify them), but who cares if he got nekkid.
 
2012-08-20 07:46:30 AM

offmymeds: You're a member of Congress visiting Israel. Do you: A) Visit the Wailing Wall? B) Discuss invading Iran? C) Get drunk and go coed skinny dipping in the Sea of Galilee?

I'd do all of the above, but in reverse order. A) First get roaring drunk and have some fun with the local coeds. B) Drunkenly start shouting in public about how Israel and the U.S. should kick Iran's ass. C) Finally pass out at the Wailing Wall in a sloppy, crying, drunken mess.


Sounds like a Brithright trip.
 
2012-08-20 07:49:32 AM

HotWingConspiracy: They might offend a bunch of European colonialists running an apartheid state.


If you mean Israelis, I doubt anyone there really gives a crap. It's just a lake.
 
2012-08-20 07:59:27 AM

Ambivalence: Heaven forbid public money should go to getting poor kids school lunches. IT's so much more important to use it subsidizing drunken skinny dipping in foreign lands. Yes, that is a fantastic use of tax money as well as a fantastic diplomatic strategy.


Look, we're ramped down Iraq. We're in the process of ramping down Afghanistan. Those Halliburton contracts don't write themselves, you know. And what about all those other poor defense contractors, hmm? If our fine Republican congressmen aren't there fanning the fire of an Israel/Iran war, what are the poor defense contractors to do? And fanning fires in a desert country is hot work. A man deserves a little coed skinny dipping.
 
2012-08-20 08:05:38 AM

xlbrooklyn: I'm having a hard time giving a shiat. Were the off the clock / done for the day? Apparently, yes. So what's the problem here?


As always with the GOP, the answer is hypocrisy. If you're going to be a member of a political party that's constantly telling other people they're bad for engaging in adult shenanigans, maybe you shouldn't engage in adult shenanigans. Especially not during an official visit to another country that is the homeland of the moral system you use to tell everybody else that they're going to hell for doing the things you're doing.

Do I think there's anything wrong with it, inherently? No.

Do I think there's something wrong with members of a political party which has made it a point since the mid-70s to use its power to tell other people to stay sober, keep their clothes on and not have fun doing anything even slightly risque? Yes.

It's always the same with these people. Do as I say, not as I do... even if you have every right to whatever the fark you want.
 
2012-08-20 08:06:34 AM
A man went to Israel, you see
Drank beer at the Sea of Galilee
He emptied his bladder
Right into the latter
Now the Sea of G. tastes like pee

/true story
 
2012-08-20 08:06:35 AM
www.seattleshakespeare.org
 
2012-08-20 08:07:22 AM

skinnycatullus: xlbrooklyn: I'm having a hard time giving a shiat. Were the off the clock / done for the day? Apparently, yes. So what's the problem here?

I don't care, either, but I'm not one of their fundie mouthbreathing supporters, who I am sure will be scandalized by such a blatant disregard for Holy Land etiquette. Also, the baby Jesus hates naked penises.


fundie mouthbreathing supporters understand that Rulers do not need to follow the same laws as the Ruled. And, the Ruled want to be able to have those privileges when they become Rulers. It's just another incentive to be a Ruler.
 
2012-08-20 08:10:33 AM
Maybe they were taken up with an urgent need for baptism?
 
2012-08-20 08:12:20 AM

Vegan Meat Popsicle: As always with the GOP, the answer is hypocrisy. If you're going to be a member of a political party that's constantly telling other people they're bad for engaging in adult shenanigans, maybe you shouldn't engage in adult shenanigans.


The Republican National Convention (in a city known for adult entertainments) next week is going to be comedy farking gold.
 
2012-08-20 08:25:36 AM
Who cares? That's a somewhat silly but harmless thing to do on the taxpayer's dollar. The fact that it was a privately funded trip makes me care even less about this
 
2012-08-20 08:30:25 AM
Seriously? People are upset at a congressman for that?

I can think of about a thousand valid things to be upset at him for, starting with being a congressman, but this is a non-story. Do people in Kansas not get naked?

People in this country got some seriously farked up values.
 
2012-08-20 08:33:59 AM

Ambivalence: Heaven forbid public money should go to getting poor kids school lunches. IT's so much more important to use it subsidizing drunken skinny dipping in foreign lands. Yes, that is a fantastic use of tax money as well as a fantastic diplomatic strategy.


If you had bothered to RTFA, you'd know it wasn't public money. But go ahead and enjoy your outrage.
 
2012-08-20 08:34:29 AM

Ambivalence: Heaven forbid public money should go to getting poor kids school lunches. IT's so much more important to use it subsidizing drunken skinny dipping in foreign lands. Yes, that is a fantastic use of tax money as well as a fantastic diplomatic strategy.

Majority Whip Kevin McCarthy (R-Calif.) was also on the privately funded excursion

This isn't missuse of public funds, more like vote the way we want and you get a free summer vacation. But it is not like they gave the money directly to the lawmakers that would be a bribe and wrong.
 
2012-08-20 08:34:38 AM
The poutrage is because they're congressmen and they should know better. Also they're GOP, and presumably fundies, not to mention this is considered a holy site. Would any of the atheist elites here get shiatfaced and take a dump on an Aztec temple? It's less about the act of getting drunk and naked and more about respecting the special places of other cultures.
 
2012-08-20 08:35:54 AM

Lernaeus: Do people in Kansas not get naked?


I'm confident they have a law against it.
 
2012-08-20 08:37:52 AM

Xetal: Who cares? That's a somewhat silly but harmless thing to do on the taxpayer's dollar. The fact that it was a privately funded trip makes me care even less about this


I want to know if Southerland's daughter was nude too? I want to know how often he and his daughter are nude together. Do they shower together or does he just swim nude with his nude daughter? I think some of the people he represents want to know.
 
2012-08-20 08:39:03 AM

Lernaeus: Do people in Kansas not get naked?


No.
 
2012-08-20 08:39:20 AM
What a non-story. I would say that I couldn't care less about this but I cared enough to post that I don't care. Either way. WHO CARES?
 
2012-08-20 08:40:42 AM

degenerate-afro: At least it didn't cost American tax payers 200 billion dollars a day.


At least it didn't require Nasa to blow up the moon.

At least it didn't bring the Martians down on us with their death rays.

At least it didn't create an active volcano under the homes of every American taxpayer.

/This is fun
 
2012-08-20 08:42:04 AM
I think we can all agree that if there is one thing we want the FBI to investigate, it's unauthorized skinnydipping.
 
2012-08-20 08:42:06 AM
If someone would write a song called "Naked Kansan in the Land of the Jews," Yoder would lose reelection.
 
2012-08-20 08:43:12 AM
This is what was going on when they took this trip.
This

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2012-08-20 08:47:21 AM

Party Boy: This is what was going on when they took this trip.
This

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Dang. And I though *I* had no life

/I can't even keep track of my laundry most weeks
 
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