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(Talking Points Memo)   Rep. Todd Akin (R-MOronic) frantically backpedalling on "legitimate rape" comment: "I misspoke"   (livewire.talkingpointsmemo.com) divider line 79
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2012-08-19 08:50:57 PM  
16 votes:
Several things to note from Congressman Akin's response:

1. At no point did he apologize or explain what he means by "legitimate" rape, and what "illegitimate rape" might entail
2. At no point did he apologize or explain what he means by the bizarre assertion that women who were raped wouldn't get pregnant as a result
3. At no point did he apologize for his comments implying that women who get raped shouldn't be allowed to get an abortion.

In other words, go F*CK yourself, Congressman Akin, and leave the decisions about women's bodies to those who actually know how the hell pregnancy works, and have a vagina themselves and are therefore the only ones actually affected by your asinine comments.
2012-08-19 08:33:58 PM  
11 votes:
Oh no. Noooooo no no no no. That was not a misspeak. That was an "Oh shiat, I told the truth" moment.

I hope to all deities that McCaskill hangs this around his neck with so many knots it'll take a goddamn needle to get them undone.
2012-08-19 09:49:09 PM  
7 votes:
I used to be a Republican, even volunteered to do door-to-door work for a couple of congressional campaign. But even when there's a GOP candidate who isn't batshiat crazy, I wonder if they're merely hiding it better and/or if it's a good idea to support a candidate of a party which tolerates and panders to batshiat craziness.

So I want to thank the Theocrats for probably turning me into a Democrat. For the first time in my life, my November ballot will be straight Democrat. It's a shame because I still believe that there's a conservative argument to be made in fiscal matters and governance. However, I've given up on the modern Republican Party ever being able to make that argument.
2012-08-19 09:14:36 PM  
6 votes:
Sometimes a politician misspeaks and says "57 states" or "next President of the United States."

Sometimes a politician phrases something indelicately and says "put y'all back in chains."

In this case a politician revealed his contemptible views, not realizing how contemptible they were, and has now realized he should have kept his stupidity to himself.
2012-08-19 08:47:18 PM  
6 votes:

Bathia_Mapes: Benevolent Misanthrope: Oh no. Noooooo no no no no. That was not a misspeak. That was an "Oh shiat, I told the truth" moment.

I hope to all deities that McCaskill hangs this around his neck with so many knots it'll take a goddamn needle to get them undone.

And not just an "Oh shiat, I told the truth", moment, but an "Oh shiat, I told the truth", moment and got caught.


Yep - "Oh shiat I told the truth. Out loud. In front of people."

I hope to hell this kills his campaign.
2012-08-19 10:05:25 PM  
5 votes:
How is this "misspeaking"? He never actually said what was misspoken.

Was the word "legitimate" not supposed to be included? I could see that a "misspeaking". Of course, if true, that still leaves his comments as slightly less morally abhorrent and completely untrue.
Adding a word or poor phrasing, I can give him the benefit of the doubt because I have no knowledge of him.

The problem was his entire statement. That is not misspeaking.
2012-08-19 10:10:08 PM  
4 votes:
Saying "57 states" when you mean "47 states" is misspeaking
Welcoming "the next President of the United States" when you introduce your VP candidate is misspeaking

Clearly stating your beliefs and then getting called out on it is not misspeaking. It just means your beliefs are farked up.
2012-08-19 09:56:10 PM  
4 votes:
"Misspoke" is Republican for "I said what I actually believe and the main stream heard it".
2012-08-19 09:03:53 PM  
4 votes:

Rincewind53: Several things to note from Congressman Akin's response:

1. At no point did he apologize or explain what he means by "legitimate" rape, and what "illegitimate rape" might entail
2. At no point did he apologize or explain what he means by the bizarre assertion that women who were raped wouldn't get pregnant as a result
3. At no point did he apologize for his comments implying that women who get raped shouldn't be allowed to get an abortion.

In other words, go F*CK yourself, Congressman Akin, and leave the decisions about women's bodies to those who actually know how the hell pregnancy works, and have a vagina themselves and are therefore the only ones actually affected by your asinine comments.


Yep. On the contrary, he reiterated his belief that rape victims should be forced to carry their pregnancies to term. Repellent, but quite representative of the mainstream GOP position on the issue. Why a woman would ever vote for a member of a party that is so utterly dismissive of their basic rights is beyond me.
2012-08-20 12:28:35 AM  
3 votes:
i.imgur.com
2012-08-20 12:25:35 AM  
3 votes:
Yeah, look, I have some sympathy for, say, climate-change denier types. Climate science is legitimately a non-trivial intellectual endeavor, and you need a pretty decent degree of technical education to even understand what the experts are talking about. I can even sort of see the perspective of creationists, who are just scared of the increasing, near-complete irrelevance of the antiquated desert goat-herder bullshiat they've been basing their philosophies on. The idea that you and all your ancestors have been flat-out wrong about damn near everything for generations is something that, emotionally, takes some getting used to, it's something that I have to remove from my students with the intellectual equivalent of a splitting wedge and a sledgehammer, and it left me disoriented back when I was in grade school, too.

But this? This is not knowing the basic "birds and the bees" bullshiat that even the irrelevant ancient desert goat-herders had no problems understanding. Like, there are literally laws in the bible regarding the disposition of babies conceived by rape. You don't get any excuses on this one, if you think something like this you're just stupid by way of being a terrible person unfit to share our oxygen, much less hold elected office.
2012-08-19 09:35:35 PM  
3 votes:

3StratMan: They're gonna put y'all back in chains!


Funny that the only people offended by that statement are old, white people. Pretty much everyone is offended by Akin's statements.
2012-08-19 09:23:39 PM  
3 votes:
Really hate how politicians use the term "misspoke" to mean anything at all. misspeaking is like mixing up a name or farking up your grammar, not saying a completely bizarre and untrue thing. There is no slight mix up that would make his statement make any sense.
2012-08-19 09:16:04 PM  
3 votes:
The USA is becoming a place where the plutocracy does whatever it wants without much effort. They just find the dumbest people from wealthy families, put a suit on them and let them derp their way in to the hearts of the ignorant and hateful masses.
2012-08-19 09:12:29 PM  
3 votes:
the classic republican non-apology apology. figures.
2012-08-19 08:59:34 PM  
3 votes:

Rincewind53: Several things to note from Congressman Akin's response:

1. At no point did he apologize or explain what he means by "legitimate" rape, and what "illegitimate rape" might entail
2. At no point did he apologize or explain what he means by the bizarre assertion that women who were raped wouldn't get pregnant as a result
3. At no point did he apologize for his comments implying that women who get raped shouldn't be allowed to get an abortion.


In other words, go F*CK yourself, Congressman Akin, and leave the decisions about women's bodies to those who actually know how the hell pregnancy works, and have a vagina themselves and are therefore the only ones actually affected by your asinine comments.


Yeah, he "misspoke" in the sense that he said what he thinks.
2012-08-19 07:00:32 PM  
3 votes:
Too late. Dumbass.
2012-08-20 06:10:53 AM  
2 votes:

Captain_Ballbeard: Leftists tend to hate anything that has an image of being strong, good and successful. They hate America, they hate Western civilization, they hate white males, they hate rationality. The reasons that leftists give for hating the West, etc. clearly do not correspond with their real motives. They SAY they hate the West because it is warlike, imperialistic, sexist, ethnocentric and so forth, but where these same faults appear in socialist countries or in primitive cultures, the leftist finds excuses for them, or at best he GRUDGINGLY admits that they exist; whereas he ENTHUSIASTICALLY points out (and often greatly exaggerates) these faults where they appear in Western civilization. Thus it is clear that these faults are not the leftist's real motive for hating America and the West. He hates America and the West because they are strong and successful.


Unabomber copy-pasta without reference or commentary?

1/10
2012-08-19 10:12:50 PM  
2 votes:
The first one to voice say crazy shiat American Conservative base actually thinks in public gets crucified, but over time the shock value of the stupidity will wear off on the general public and they'll slowly start to own it. Within 5 years "women can't get pregnant from 'legitimate rape'" will be the official party policy of the Texas GOP. Within 10 years Christians will claim that scoffing or ridiculing it is a sign that their religious beliefs are "persecuted", and the mainstream media will let them get away with it.
2012-08-19 09:44:22 PM  
2 votes:

Goodfella: Republicans:

"Women always complaining about getting raped. They just need to stop complaining and learn to turn rape into lemonade."


Actually, a politician "jokingly" saying something similar to that way back in 1990 is how George W. Bush became Governor of Texas, enabling him to run for and become President.

That "joke" took less than ten seconds to tell, but future historians may mark it as what made the fall of the USA inevitable.

The politician was Clayton Williams, Republican candidate for Governor. He was comfortably ahead of the Democratic female candidate, the now sadly late Ann Richards (the lady who gave us, "You'll have to excuse him. He was born with a silver foot in his mouth"), and had outspent her by two-fold. He had the election in the bag. And then, he blew it. He quipped about the weather at a pre-election event: "[the weather is] kinda like rape. If it's inevitable, just relax and enjoy it."

Ann Richards won largely because of that. She subsequently lost her re-election bid to George W. Bush, who wouldn't even have run had Clayton been the incumbent Governor, since the Texas GOP wouldn't likely want to run any serious challengers against their incumbent.
2012-08-19 09:35:15 PM  
2 votes:

3StratMan: They're gonna put y'all back in chains!


Attempt to deflect has been noted.
2012-08-19 09:35:14 PM  
2 votes:

Richard Roma: Apology not accepted, dickshiat.

..........

And then you use your non-apology as an opportunity to vomit up standard right-wing derp about big government.

........


He wants government to be just small enough to fit into a woman's vagina.
2012-08-19 09:32:32 PM  
2 votes:
Apology not accepted, dickshiat.

Oh, wait, you didn't actually apologize. You said you 'misspoke', which I always thought meant that someone phrased his thoughts in an unclear manner. The insanity and vileness expressed in your statement isn't something that can accidentally emerge from a bad combination of words. It comes from an evil mind.

And then you use your non-apology as an opportunity to vomit up standard right-wing derp about big government.

Kindly burrow into a septic tank and die, Akin.
2012-08-19 09:32:27 PM  
2 votes:

Gulper Eel: The no-exceptions position is at least more ethically consistent on one level than the usual pander


No doubt about that. I have a certain amount of respect for the absolutist "pro-life" position in that it's morally consistent. Abhorrent in the extreme, but consistent. The problem is that the vast majority of "pro-lifers" can be coaxed into admitting that there are some situations where abortion is acceptable, which belies their claim that a fertilized egg is completely morally equivalent to a born human. And there's that thing where around 75 percent of "pro-lifers" are also pro-capital-punishment and anti-welfare. But hey, for some reason they shy away from the more accurate term, "blastocyst fetishists".
2012-08-19 09:28:09 PM  
2 votes:
This is what you get when you hire Tex Antoine as your senior advisor.

/when losing your election is inevitable, you should just relax and enjoy it.
2012-08-19 09:26:07 PM  
2 votes:

Smelly McUgly: So are Republicans trying to marginalize themselves, or are they just stupid?


Yes
2012-08-19 09:23:02 PM  
2 votes:
The important thing is that he remembered to own up to his stupidity blame the media for reporting exactly what he said:

"But I also believe that this election is about a wide range of very important issues, starting with the economy and the type of country we will be leaving our children and grandchildren. We've had 42 straight months of unacceptably high unemployment, trillion-dollar deficits, and Democratic leaders in Washington who are focused on growing government, instead of jobs. That is my primary focus in this campaign and while there are those who want to distract from that, knowing they cannot defend the Democrats' failed economic record of the last four years, that will continue to be my focus in the months ahead."



Ladies and gents: the party of personal responsibility.
2012-08-19 09:19:41 PM  
2 votes:

ginandbacon: He's almost 8 percentage points ahead of McCaskill. Missouri loves it's douche bags.


Was. We'll see.
2012-08-19 09:15:20 PM  
2 votes:
cdn1.teapartytribune.com 

Claire didn't have a prayer of winning this race. But then Todd Akin opened his mouth.
2012-08-19 09:14:59 PM  
2 votes:

Harry_Seldon: And not one vote was changed.


Yep. And that's why George Allen is a Senator now.

Oh wait, he was leading that race and then he lost following macaca.
2012-08-19 09:14:21 PM  
2 votes:
Republicans:

"Women always complaining about getting raped. They just need to stop complaining and learn to turn rape into lemonade."
2012-08-19 09:12:05 PM  
2 votes:
And not one vote was changed.
2012-08-19 08:50:47 PM  
2 votes:
Sure you did, sparklefark. "I misspoke" is politician-speak for "I shouldn't have said that on camera." If you're going to say something that retarded, just own it. Get on camera and say, "Yeah I said that. Wanna do something about it, assfark?" Wouldn't do him much good, but at least it would be better political theater than the standard "I mispoke/I was taken out of context/The lamestream MSM media doctored the video" that comprises the dog and pony show we get now.
2012-08-19 07:06:07 PM  
2 votes:
Hunchback of Notre Dame Frantically Tries To Un-Ring Bell
2012-08-20 07:10:53 PM  
1 votes:
Republicans are so farking creepy.
2012-08-20 09:07:56 AM  
1 votes:

Rincewind53: Several things to note from Congressman Akin's response:

1. At no point did he apologize or explain what he means by "legitimate" rape, and what "illegitimate rape" might entail
2. At no point did he apologize or explain what he means by the bizarre assertion that women who were raped wouldn't get pregnant as a result
3. At no point did he apologize for his comments implying that women who get raped shouldn't be allowed to get an abortion.

In other words, go F*CK yourself, Congressman Akin, and leave the decisions about women's bodies to those who actually know how the hell pregnancy works, and have a vagina themselves and are therefore the only ones actually affected by your asinine comments.



If it were a legitimate rape, the woman's body would activate its anti-rape defenses, and miscarry the fetus.

If she were asking for it by dressing or acting provocatively, she'd get pregnant.

Ergo, a pregnancy resulting from a "rape" proves it wasn't a legitimate rape, and the woman is a slut, not a victim.

Faith-based science FTW!
2012-08-20 09:05:23 AM  
1 votes:
2012-08-20 08:09:57 AM  
1 votes:

Johnny Swank: The GOP has to purge their evangelical nutbags


While those guys suck, they're mostly just a smokescreen for the party's core of looters.
2012-08-20 07:56:24 AM  
1 votes:

dofus: You don't have to go from 'Republican' to 'Democrat'. You can go from 'Republican' to 'Independent Thinker'. As such, you get to choose between _ALL_ the candidates on the ballot.


The problem with that theory is that EVERY damn republican votes in lockstep with the party when it really matters. To vote for some "moderate" republican is just a bad a putting in another teabagger. No. More. Republicans. It's that damn simple.

The GOP has to purge their evangelical nutbags and do some serious soul searching if they want to be taken seriously by anyone with more than 2 functional brain cells. I'm not holding my breath.

/ex-republican
2012-08-20 07:24:26 AM  
1 votes:

AbbeySomeone: Which one of them said that rape babies were a gift?


That sentiment is far more common then you want to think about, trust me. I have family members who are so blinded by abortion politics that they've convinced themselves that rape is just part of god's plan to bless you with a child.

I'm dead serious.

The vehement defense of the sanctity of a zygote has so poisoned their minds that the actual living, breathing mother is never even considered as a human being. It's a gutter mix of misogyny and blind devotion to what they imagine god to be. It turns my stomach.
2012-08-20 07:01:46 AM  
1 votes:
I bet that plenty of women will still vote for him. It's considered more important to vote against a Democrat than it is for a Republican candidate you actually admire. That, and in Republicanville there will be people claiming that his off-the-wall remarks were somehow taken out of context, and that the liberal media did a hit-piece. Anything to avoid admitting that this douchebag actually did say those things. It's their defense mechanism. Get caught with a dead boy in your bedroom? Clearly, the lamestream media set you up. Don't believe me? Look at how it was Katie Couric's fault that Sarah Palin made an ass of herself on national television.
2012-08-20 06:52:53 AM  
1 votes:
Wow, and they deny there is a war against women. The guy couldn't have just come up with this bullshiat on his own. Makes you wonder what all other stuff they believe and keep on the down low. Sure he says he "misspoke", but he sure gave a lot of detail for someone who "misspoke". It is almost like this is a common view discussed frequently among him and his peers.
2012-08-20 06:43:22 AM  
1 votes:
Oh look...Another Republican who is completely ignorant of how the female body works and thinks women should have to raise children born from rape.

Keep in mind, Paul Ryan was a cosponsor of this ignorant asshole's bill attempting to define "forcible rape"...

This is what you vote for when you vote for the GOP.
2012-08-20 02:06:01 AM  
1 votes:

ox45tallboy: BuckTurgidson: something we have always said, what we are saying to the American people right now, and what we will always say!

So what exactly are you saying?


You know, given the imminent disaster the President's failed policies have created, I think this fascination on what we've said in the past and are saying now is small-minded.
2012-08-20 01:43:28 AM  
1 votes:

dofus: IntertubeUser: I used to be a Republican, even volunteered to do door-to-door work for a couple of congressional campaign. But even when there's a GOP candidate who isn't batshiat crazy, I wonder if they're merely hiding it better and/or if it's a good idea to support a candidate of a party which tolerates and panders to batshiat craziness.

So I want to thank the Theocrats for probably turning me into a Democrat. For the first time in my life, my November ballot will be straight Democrat. It's a shame because I still believe that there's a conservative argument to be made in fiscal matters and governance. However, I've given up on the modern Republican Party ever being able to make that argument.

A reply ~2:25 later - doubt if you'll see it.

You don't have to go from 'Republican' to 'Democrat'. You can go from 'Republican' to 'Independent Thinker'. As such, you get to choose between _ALL_ the candidates on the ballot.


I get that. But how much effort would a Republican who was moderate on the social issues (non-Theocratic, separation of church and state, etc.) put into opposing somebody like this asshat Akin? And somebody like garner much support in a statewide election Republican voters?

It really seems like the choices, for most people, are: 1) Vote Democrat; 2) Vote for a hardcore fundie like Akin (or an Angler, or a Gohmert, or a Not-A-Witch McDonald, etc.); or, 3) Vote for a moderate Republican who will never earn the full support of GOPers and who won't call out their party's bullshiat.

I'll keep an eye out for Republicans who aren't superstitious nuts, I'm a frakking Democrat. I need a drink.
2012-08-20 12:46:09 AM  
1 votes:

BuckTurgidson: jeaux65: "Governor Romney and Congressman Ryan disagree with Mr. Akin's statement, and a Romney-Ryan administration would not oppose abortion in instances of rape," said Romney spokeswoman Andrea Saul.

So, Governor Mitt Romney (Mormon) and Congressman Paul Ryan (Catholic) are pro-murder-of-innocent-little-tiny-babies.

Got it.


Romney's painted himself into so many corners that his house by be a dodecahedron.
2012-08-20 12:37:39 AM  
1 votes:

Jim_Callahan: Yeah, look, I have some sympathy for, say, climate-change denier types. Climate science is legitimately a non-trivial intellectual endeavor, and you need a pretty decent degree of technical education to even understand what the experts are talking about.


Sure, some people may deny it because they don't understand it. To that, I say this:

farm5.staticflickr.com
2012-08-20 12:32:22 AM  
1 votes:
Still no excuse for failing at biology.

I was subjected to a ton of Republican ads while on vacation in the middle of the state in July. The ads would all mention that they were pro-life, but mostly they boasted that they'd never compromise, and that they'd never, ever let the debt ceiling be raised(destroying the economy), and that this other person once did something not completely evil.

Totally evil scumbags, all of them.
2012-08-20 12:31:59 AM  
1 votes:

HighOnCraic: God-is-a-Taco: As expected, there's a bit of friction going on at Freepville.

I hate to see true patriots argue over such trivial things.

I won't quote them directly, but one of them posted this:

How many rape pregnancies are there? The answer is that, according to statistical reporting, there are no more than one or two pregnancies resultant from every 1,000 forcible rapes.

But, does it make sense? Let's look, using the figure of 200,000 rapes each year.

* Of the 200,000 women who were forcibly raped, one-third were either too old or too young to get pregnant. That leaves 133,000 at risk for pregnancy.
* A woman is capable of being fertilized only 3 days (perhaps 5) out of a 30-day month. Multiply our figure of 133,000 by three tenths. Three days out of 30 is one out of ten, divide 133 by ten and we have 13,300 women remaining. If we use five days out of 30 it is one out of six. Divide one hundred and thirty three thousand by six and we have 22,166 remaining.
* One-fourth of all women in the United States of childbearing age have been sterilized, so the remaining three-fourths come out to 10,000 (or 15,000).
* Only half of assailants penetrate her body and/or deposit sperm in her vagina,1 so let's cut the remaining figures in half. This gives us numbers of 5,000 (or 7,500).
* Fifteen percent of men are sterile, that drops that figure to 4,250 (or 6,375).
* Fifteen percent of non-surgically sterilized women are naturally sterile. That reduces the number to 3,600 (or 5,400).
* Another fifteen percent are on the pill and/or already pregnant. That reduces the number to 3,070 (or 4,600).
* Now factor in the fact that it takes 5-10 months for the average couple to achieve a pregnancy. Use the smaller figure of 5 months to be conservative and divide the avove figures by 5. The number drops to 600 (or 920).
* In an average population, the miscarriage rate is about 15 percent. In this case we have incredible emotional trauma. Her bod ...


So as long as the stress of the rape causes miscarriage, it doesn't count as a pregnancy? Thanks Freepers! Keep talking!
2012-08-20 12:16:11 AM  
1 votes:

falcon176: pretty typical for libs to take things out of context


Tumunga: So you libtards got the repubtard legislator to compromise and agree with you, now you want to berate him for compromising with you?

For anyone needing citation that compromising with libtards doesn't work, and all the libtards want to do with compromise is to use it against you when you compromise and walkback, please use this Fark discussion thread 7276813.


GF named my left testicle thundercles: came for the rape hysteria, leaving satisfied.


Virtually nobody even tries to defend this guy and then suddenly 3 posters within 5 minutes. Somebody has whittled themselves a mighty nice troll call.
2012-08-19 11:54:06 PM  
1 votes:

Insult Comic Bishounen: Mrtraveler01: jeaux65: Help me. I'm surrounded by the derp. So torn when I love this state so much, and hate more than half the people here.

To be honest, that sums up the thoughts of most Missourians. 

/myself included
//wishes KC and St. Louis could break apart from the rest of Missouri

How about KC and STL and a narrow corridor that contains I-70? Or KC and STL as their own states?


Screw that. You folk get no more Senators.
2012-08-19 11:49:58 PM  
1 votes:

Evil High Priest: COMALite J: Goodfella: Republicans:

"Women always complaining about getting raped. They just need to stop complaining and learn to turn rape into lemonade."

Actually, a politician "jokingly" saying something similar to that way back in 1990 is how George W. Bush became Governor of Texas, enabling him to run for and become President.

That "joke" took less than ten seconds to tell, but future historians may mark it as what made the fall of the USA inevitable.

The politician was Clayton Williams, Republican candidate for Governor. He was comfortably ahead of the Democratic female candidate, the now sadly late Ann Richards (the lady who gave us, "You'll have to excuse him. He was born with a silver foot in his mouth"), and had outspent her by two-fold. He had the election in the bag. And then, he blew it. He quipped about the weather at a pre-election event: "[the weather is] kinda like rape. If it's inevitable, just relax and enjoy it."

Ann Richards won largely because of that. She subsequently lost her re-election bid to George W. Bush, who wouldn't even have run had Clayton been the incumbent Governor, since the Texas GOP wouldn't likely want to run any serious challengers against their incumbent.

And Richards lost because she didn't think shrub was much of a threat, being borderline retarded and all.


Anne Richards lost because the BS that Karl Rove pushed.

/plus she was a recovering alcoholic and couldn't bring Bush's DWI convictions in Texas (which the DOT lost the records to after Bush was elected)
//plus she could not bring up the special treatment Bush got to get into that National Guard Unit during the Vietnam War because several powerful Democrats got their sons the same special treatment
2012-08-19 11:49:06 PM  
1 votes:
Yes Republicans ARE this stupid. And they're even proud of it.
2012-08-19 11:14:10 PM  
1 votes:
OK Akin..you 'misspoke'. Well, I plan on speaking very plainly in November when I shout with my vote that you do NOT get my support in your attempts to represent the state that I find myself a registered voter of.

See, I have a vagina and stuff. And I like to maintain control of said genetalia: It's not you or your parties decisions on what I do with it. You don't get to 'decide' if, god forbid it ever happens, I've ever been legitimately raped. You don't get to have a hand in legislation that may further the whole 'The victim asked for it' angle.

fark you up the ass with a sandpaper condom and sprinkle some salt on your quivering, damaged sphincter.
2012-08-19 10:45:20 PM  
1 votes:

Noam Chimpsky: The anti-lifers have kind of a dilemma when talking about aborting the rape conceived children. It makes the other abortions seem more and more vile. Same thing with the life of the mother at risk if she carries to term scenario. Your convenience aborters really feel like shiat when they hear the debate.


Go choke on a bag of dicks you douchebag.
2012-08-19 10:22:09 PM  
1 votes:
I guess it was a misspeak when he said that doctors told him that women's bodies have a special defense mechanism that keeps them from getting pregnant when they are raped.
2012-08-19 10:16:49 PM  
1 votes:

FitzShivering: Captain_Ballbeard: Leftists tend to hate anything that has an image of being strong, good and successful. They hate America, they hate Western civilization, they hate white males, they hate rationality. The reasons that leftists give for hating the West, etc. clearly do not correspond with their real motives. They SAY they hate the West because it is warlike, imperialistic, sexist, ethnocentric and so forth, but where these same faults appear in socialist countries or in primitive cultures, the leftist finds excuses for them, or at best he GRUDGINGLY admits that they exist; whereas he ENTHUSIASTICALLY points out (and often greatly exaggerates) these faults where they appear in Western civilization. Thus it is clear that these faults are not the leftist's real motive for hating America and the West. He hates America and the West because they are strong and successful.

0/10. -1 for being completely unrelated to anything. So, -1/10.


He was plagiarizing from the Unabomber's Manifesto. I think it's possible he's being satirical.
2012-08-19 10:13:07 PM  
1 votes:

Captain_Ballbeard: Leftists tend to hate anything that has an image of being strong, good and successful. They hate America, they hate Western civilization, they hate white males, they hate rationality. The reasons that leftists give for hating the West, etc. clearly do not correspond with their real motives. They SAY they hate the West because it is warlike, imperialistic, sexist, ethnocentric and so forth, but where these same faults appear in socialist countries or in primitive cultures, the leftist finds excuses for them, or at best he GRUDGINGLY admits that they exist; whereas he ENTHUSIASTICALLY points out (and often greatly exaggerates) these faults where they appear in Western civilization. Thus it is clear that these faults are not the leftist's real motive for hating America and the West. He hates America and the West because they are strong and successful.


0/10. -1 for being completely unrelated to anything. So, -1/10.
2012-08-19 10:07:20 PM  
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Well, I did my usual round-up of asking a good deal of the people I know right and left what they think (I really should start a polling service). Everyone agreed it was an awful and horrible thing to say, even those who are against abortion in all cases. I don't think the "oops, I misspoke!" is going to get him very far. The same people who think that no fetuses should be aborted because it's still murder don't seem OK with the idea that if a woman gets raped and is pregnant she is lying about having been actually raped.
2012-08-19 10:02:41 PM  
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3StratMan: They're gonna put y'all back in chains!


There's defense 1.
2012-08-19 09:54:43 PM  
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IntertubeUser: I used to be a Republican, even volunteered to do door-to-door work for a couple of congressional campaign. But even when there's a GOP candidate who isn't batshiat crazy, I wonder if they're merely hiding it better and/or if it's a good idea to support a candidate of a party which tolerates and panders to batshiat craziness.

So I want to thank the Theocrats for probably turning me into a Democrat. For the first time in my life, my November ballot will be straight Democrat. It's a shame because I still believe that there's a conservative argument to be made in fiscal matters and governance. However, I've given up on the modern Republican Party ever being able to make that argument.


Indeed. The Republican Party no longer is doing anything except actively making the entire country worse.

As for this Akin asshole, isn't it funny how these deeply-held beliefs that Republicans hold have to be explained away during news conferences. It's almost like they know how repugnant they are yet they still don't question them at all.
2012-08-19 09:54:26 PM  
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It will be interesting to see how much money McCaskill raise off this alone.
2012-08-19 09:47:36 PM  
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Goodfella: Republicans:

"Women always complaining about getting raped. They just need to stop complaining and learn to turn rape into lemonade."


You know, just on the off-chance that you weren't serious, Santorum did indeed say that. Link
2012-08-19 09:44:48 PM  
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dahmers love zombie: . I have a certain amount of respect for the absolutist "pro-life" position in that it's morally consistent. Abhorrent in the extreme, but consistent.


Then you are a farktard. The act of being consistent is not some moral high ground. "Consistent" also means "too farking stupid to recognize you are wrong" and/or "unrepentantly evil" People who are not sociopathic xenocidal death-monkeys often change their positions based on new data and new viewpoints; they have nuanced positions precisely because they realize things are almost never black and white. Clinging to black-and-white maximalists for the pure sake that they are black-and-white maximalists makes you too stupid to be allowed to live on any sane planet - please put yourself out of our misery. I'll even say that I hold this position whole-heartedly and absolutely, just so you can know you are worshipping my moral certainty when you eat the gun. Toodles.
2012-08-19 09:41:05 PM  
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Noam Chimpsky: The anti-lifers have kind of a dilemma when talking about aborting the rape conceived children. It makes the other abortions seem more and more vile. Same thing with the life of the mother at risk if she carries to term scenario. Your convenience aborters really feel like shiat when they hear the debate.


What does that have to do with Todd Akin being an idiot?

Oh right, you can't defend that so you bring this weak stuff.
2012-08-19 09:38:25 PM  
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ginandbacon: elchip: Lost Thought 00: Name_Omitted: ginandbacon: He's almost 8 percentage points ahead of McCaskill. Missouri loves it's douche bags.

Was. We'll see.

I can't imagine anyone who supported him changing their mind over this. After all, this falls in line with the Christian Doctrine he based his campaign on.

McCaskill won in 06 by 3%. That implies 11% of voters are Akin voters who could return to the Blue Side.

From your mouth...but it's farking Missouri. I'm not holding my breath.


I live in Missouri and even I'm still not optimistic.

Anywhere outside of St. Louis, Kansas City, or Columbia (college town) is always solidly Republican no matter what.

Even if the MO GOP is running a sack of manure on the R ticket, the rural folks would vote for it. And coincidentally, the sack of manure has more integrity than Todd Akin at the moment.
2012-08-19 09:30:33 PM  
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Ed Finnerty: Someone may want to let the people defending his initial statement in this thread know.


Only one even came close to defending and got slapped around pretty well.
2012-08-19 09:23:54 PM  
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So are Republicans trying to marginalize themselves, or are they just stupid?
2012-08-19 09:23:27 PM  
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Since Todd Akin is clearly such an expert in the sciences, surely we can trust policies he wants to enact regarding global warming and teaching of evolution in schools.
2012-08-19 09:22:55 PM  
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Still sounds better than "not intended to be taken factually."

/hoping he still loses
//springs eternal, indeed
2012-08-19 09:22:33 PM  
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In reviewing my off-the-cuff remarks, it's clear that I misspoke in this interview

Which part? What specifically did you say that was wrong, and how would you like to clarify your statements?

Those who perpetrate these crimes are the lowest of the low in our society and their victims will have no stronger advocate in the Senate to help ensure they have the justice they deserve.

Bullshiat. Forcing a woman to have a child that could potentially remind them every day of the pain and trauma they endured is NOT justice.

the type of country we will be leaving our children...

...whether or not we actually want to have them.
Byn
2012-08-19 09:21:15 PM  
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SeismicJizzer: Heh if this miscreant thinks he can come out with a "misspoke" and sweep it under a rug then he has no idea how much damage he created for himself.

Even republicans are advising this twat to get out.


This guy is a Republican, so has Fox news on his side by default. I'm really keen on seeing how this plays out with them.
2012-08-19 09:18:21 PM  
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McCaskill was short and sweet with her response:


McCaskill Statement on Akin's "Legitimate Rape" and Pregnancy Remarks

"It is beyond comprehension that someone can be so ignorant about the emotional and physical trauma brought on by rape," said McCaskill. "The ideas that Todd Akin has expressed about the serious crime of rape and the impact on its victims are offensive."


Link
2012-08-19 09:17:38 PM  
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Also is this another "misspeaks" like Clayton "relax and enjoy it" Williams?
2012-08-19 09:14:30 PM  
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I hope he is legitimately raped at the polls.
2012-08-19 09:12:07 PM  
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What he meant to say is that women should accept their place as second class citizens, leaving the lawmaking to the men.
2012-08-19 09:09:04 PM  
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Heh if this miscreant thinks he can come out with a "misspoke" and sweep it under a rug then he has no idea how much damage he created for himself.

Even republicans are advising this twat to get out.
2012-08-19 08:50:43 PM  
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He's almost 8 percentage points ahead of McCaskill. Missouri loves it's douche bags.
2012-08-19 08:45:08 PM  
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Benevolent Misanthrope: Oh no. Noooooo no no no no. That was not a misspeak. That was an "Oh shiat, I told the truth" moment.

I hope to all deities that McCaskill hangs this around his neck with so many knots it'll take a goddamn needle to get them undone.


And not just an "Oh shiat, I told the truth", moment, but an "Oh shiat, I told the truth", moment and got caught.
 
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