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2012-08-20 12:10:40 AM  

Hollie Maea: But, they only have until Tuesday to declare their candidate.


Wouldn't be surprised if this leads every hour on msnbc tomorrow.
 
2012-08-20 12:10:45 AM  

Tumunga: So you libtards got the repubtard legislator to compromise and agree with you medical science, now you want to berate him for compromising with you medical science?


[notsureifserious.jpg], but I FTFY just in case.
 
2012-08-20 12:11:32 AM  

Mrtraveler01: Tumunga: So you libtards got the repubtard legislator to compromise and agree with you, now you want to berate him for compromising with you?

For anyone needing citation that compromising with libtards doesn't work, and all the libtards want to do with compromise is to use it against you when you compromise and walkback, please use this Fark discussion thread 7276813.

I take it that you posted this in the wrong thrad because I have no idea what you're talking about.


I'm considering the horrifying possibility he posted in the right thread.
 
2012-08-20 12:11:43 AM  
As expected, there's a bit of friction going on at Freepville.

I hate to see true patriots argue over such trivial things.
 
2012-08-20 12:13:46 AM  

Rann Xerox: You know when you consume large amounts of alcohol, you tend to say things that you normally wouldn't say because your inhibitions are lowered to the point where good judgment no longer exists? This misogynistic, homunculus mongoloid was as sober as a judge when he spouted his drivel.


This comparison is offensive to any misogynists, homunculi, or mongoloids in the room. Not to mention teetotalers and judges.
 
2012-08-20 12:15:41 AM  
Even I would have to say, well duh.
 
2012-08-20 12:16:11 AM  

falcon176: pretty typical for libs to take things out of context


Tumunga: So you libtards got the repubtard legislator to compromise and agree with you, now you want to berate him for compromising with you?

For anyone needing citation that compromising with libtards doesn't work, and all the libtards want to do with compromise is to use it against you when you compromise and walkback, please use this Fark discussion thread 7276813.


GF named my left testicle thundercles: came for the rape hysteria, leaving satisfied.


Virtually nobody even tries to defend this guy and then suddenly 3 posters within 5 minutes. Somebody has whittled themselves a mighty nice troll call.
 
2012-08-20 12:17:43 AM  

God-is-a-Taco: As expected, there's a bit of friction going on at Freepville.

I hate to see true patriots argue over such trivial things.


Ha, they're really saying that Akin should drop out of the race and that Steeleman should be nominated instead. As if it would make their chances any better.

And they thought that John Brunner was a RINO?

suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com
 
2012-08-20 12:18:05 AM  
Heh. So far here's the best freep quote, and I don't care if mods are upset about this:


I'm a conservative and every election is always about abortion, among other issues. I don't switch off my beliefs just because some jackass political consultant decides that issue isn't "trending" today.

I am not going to throw this guy under the bus because of one misspoken word. It's liberals who shallowly judge people by the words they use and refuse to take into account their meaning, context, or intent. That's what political correctness is all about.
 
2012-08-20 12:19:13 AM  

IntertubeUser: I used to be a Republican, even volunteered to do door-to-door work for a couple of congressional campaign. But even when there's a GOP candidate who isn't batshiat crazy, I wonder if they're merely hiding it better and/or if it's a good idea to support a candidate of a party which tolerates and panders to batshiat craziness.

So I want to thank the Theocrats for probably turning me into a Democrat. For the first time in my life, my November ballot will be straight Democrat. It's a shame because I still believe that there's a conservative argument to be made in fiscal matters and governance. However, I've given up on the modern Republican Party ever being able to make that argument.


A reply ~2:25 later - doubt if you'll see it.

You don't have to go from 'Republican' to 'Democrat'. You can go from 'Republican' to 'Independent Thinker'. As such, you get to choose between _ALL_ the candidates on the ballot.
 
2012-08-20 12:21:25 AM  

Mrtraveler01: Tumunga: So you libtards got the repubtard legislator to compromise and agree with you, now you want to berate him for compromising with you?

For anyone needing citation that compromising with libtards doesn't work, and all the libtards want to do with compromise is to use it against you when you compromise and walkback, please use this Fark discussion thread 7276813.

I take it that you posted this in the wrong thrad because I have no idea what you're talking about.


Anyone who uses the epithet "libtard" (sic) three times, and for good measure "consevetard" (sic) once really had nothing worth saying anyway.
 
2012-08-20 12:21:45 AM  

God-is-a-Taco: Heh. So far here's the best freep quote, and I don't care if mods are upset about this:


I'm a conservative and every election is always about abortion, among other issues. I don't switch off my beliefs just because some jackass political consultant decides that issue isn't "trending" today.

I am not going to throw this guy under the bus because of one misspoken word. It's liberals who shallowly judge people by the words they use and refuse to take into account their meaning, context, or intent. That's what political correctness is all about.


I wonder what they think he said.
 
2012-08-20 12:22:53 AM  

Riothamus: Name_Omitted: Insult Comic Bishounen: Mrtraveler01: jeaux65: Help me. I'm surrounded by the derp. So torn when I love this state so much, and hate more than half the people here.

To be honest, that sums up the thoughts of most Missourians. 

/myself included
//wishes KC and St. Louis could break apart from the rest of Missouri

How about KC and STL and a narrow corridor that contains I-70? Or KC and STL as their own states?

Screw that. You folk get no more Senators.

Give KC to Kansas. St. Louis goes to Illinois.

And force Arkansas to take the rest!


Please no, I can't take the Kansas drivers. I'll end up in jail.

Plus Kansas is so much worse than Missouri when it comes to politics...They're full of Akins.
 
2012-08-20 12:23:11 AM  

Nina_Hartley's_Ass: Hollie Maea: But, they only have until Tuesday to declare their candidate.

Wouldn't be surprised if this leads every hour on msnbc tomorrow.


Hell, even Fox News will spend most of the day yelling at him tomorrow. They will be pissed that he threw away a sure thing must win seat. The only people who will be defending him will be Fox and Friends, Rush, and the Breitbart crowd.
 
2012-08-20 12:23:29 AM  

God-is-a-Taco: Heh. So far here's the best freep quote, and I don't care if mods are upset about this:


I'm a conservative and every election is always about abortion, among other issues. I don't switch off my beliefs just because some jackass political consultant decides that issue isn't "trending" today.

I am not going to throw this guy under the bus because of one misspoken word. It's liberals who shallowly judge people by the words they use and refuse to take into account their meaning, context, or intent. That's what political correctness is all about.


I still can't get over the fact that they think they can just easily remove the nomination from Akin AND give it to Steelman who finished in 3rd.

Wow...just wow.
 
2012-08-20 12:23:54 AM  

WizardofToast:
I wonder what they think he said.


Standard fratboy stuff, really. Date rape isn't real rape and so on.
 
2012-08-20 12:23:58 AM  
Misspeaking is saying 17% instead of 71% not "hey those women enjoying it because if she didn't there would be the proof of her being a dirty whore!"

I'd also like to hear his interpretation of legitimate rape. I was drugged by two men who I thought were my friends at my 21st birthday party and carried back to my bedroom and raped by them while unconscious. Does that count or was that not rape enough? Do only strangers count? What?
 
2012-08-20 12:25:35 AM  
Yeah, look, I have some sympathy for, say, climate-change denier types. Climate science is legitimately a non-trivial intellectual endeavor, and you need a pretty decent degree of technical education to even understand what the experts are talking about. I can even sort of see the perspective of creationists, who are just scared of the increasing, near-complete irrelevance of the antiquated desert goat-herder bullshiat they've been basing their philosophies on. The idea that you and all your ancestors have been flat-out wrong about damn near everything for generations is something that, emotionally, takes some getting used to, it's something that I have to remove from my students with the intellectual equivalent of a splitting wedge and a sledgehammer, and it left me disoriented back when I was in grade school, too.

But this? This is not knowing the basic "birds and the bees" bullshiat that even the irrelevant ancient desert goat-herders had no problems understanding. Like, there are literally laws in the bible regarding the disposition of babies conceived by rape. You don't get any excuses on this one, if you think something like this you're just stupid by way of being a terrible person unfit to share our oxygen, much less hold elected office.
 
2012-08-20 12:27:53 AM  

Mrtraveler01: God-is-a-Taco: Heh. So far here's the best freep quote, and I don't care if mods are upset about this:


I'm a conservative and every election is always about abortion, among other issues. I don't switch off my beliefs just because some jackass political consultant decides that issue isn't "trending" today.

I am not going to throw this guy under the bus because of one misspoken word. It's liberals who shallowly judge people by the words they use and refuse to take into account their meaning, context, or intent. That's what political correctness is all about.

I still can't get over the fact that they think they can just easily remove the nomination from Akin AND give it to Steelman who finished in 3rd.

Wow...just wow.


And convince everyone involved to go along with it and be happy about it by Tuesday evening. It is just mind blowing.
 
2012-08-20 12:28:35 AM  
i.imgur.com
 
2012-08-20 12:28:42 AM  

Mrtraveler01: God-is-a-Taco: Heh. So far here's the best freep quote, and I don't care if mods are upset about this:


I'm a conservative and every election is always about abortion, among other issues. I don't switch off my beliefs just because some jackass political consultant decides that issue isn't "trending" today.

I am not going to throw this guy under the bus because of one misspoken word. It's liberals who shallowly judge people by the words they use and refuse to take into account their meaning, context, or intent. That's what political correctness is all about.

I still can't get over the fact that they think they can just easily remove the nomination from Akin AND give it to Steelman who finished in 3rd.

Wow...just wow.


They were convinced until about mid June that somehow Sarah Palin would make a play at the convention. For people who profess such passion for saving America from liberals, they seem to have real problems understanding how American politics actually work.
 
2012-08-20 12:28:58 AM  

God-is-a-Taco: As expected, there's a bit of friction going on at Freepville.

I hate to see true patriots argue over such trivial things.


I won't quote them directly, but one of them posted this:

How many rape pregnancies are there? The answer is that, according to statistical reporting, there are no more than one or two pregnancies resultant from every 1,000 forcible rapes.

But, does it make sense? Let's look, using the figure of 200,000 rapes each year.

* Of the 200,000 women who were forcibly raped, one-third were either too old or too young to get pregnant. That leaves 133,000 at risk for pregnancy.
* A woman is capable of being fertilized only 3 days (perhaps 5) out of a 30-day month. Multiply our figure of 133,000 by three tenths. Three days out of 30 is one out of ten, divide 133 by ten and we have 13,300 women remaining. If we use five days out of 30 it is one out of six. Divide one hundred and thirty three thousand by six and we have 22,166 remaining.
* One-fourth of all women in the United States of childbearing age have been sterilized, so the remaining three-fourths come out to 10,000 (or 15,000).
* Only half of assailants penetrate her body and/or deposit sperm in her vagina,1 so let's cut the remaining figures in half. This gives us numbers of 5,000 (or 7,500).
* Fifteen percent of men are sterile, that drops that figure to 4,250 (or 6,375).
* Fifteen percent of non-surgically sterilized women are naturally sterile. That reduces the number to 3,600 (or 5,400).
* Another fifteen percent are on the pill and/or already pregnant. That reduces the number to 3,070 (or 4,600).
* Now factor in the fact that it takes 5-10 months for the average couple to achieve a pregnancy. Use the smaller figure of 5 months to be conservative and divide the avove figures by 5. The number drops to 600 (or 920).
* In an average population, the miscarriage rate is about 15 percent. In this case we have incredible emotional trauma. Her body is upset. Even if she conceives, the miscarriage rate will be higher than in a more normal pregnancy. If 20 percent of raped women miscarry, the figure drops to 450 (or 740).

Finally, factor in what is certainly one of the most important reasons why a rape victim rarely gets pregnant, and that's physical trauma. Every woman is aware that stress and emotional factors can alter her menstrual cycle. To get and stay pregnant a woman's body must produce a very sophisticated mix of hormones. Hormone production is controlled by a part of the brain that is easily influenced by emotions. There's no greater emotional trauma that can be experienced by a woman than an assault rape. This can radically upset her possibility of ovulation, fertilization, implantation and even nurturing of a pregnancy. So what further percentage reduction in pregnancy will this cause? No one knows, but this factor certainly cuts this last figure by at least 50 percent and probably more. If we use the 50 percent figure, we have a final figure of 225 (or 370) women pregnant each year. These numbers closely match the 200 that have been documented in clinical studies.

So assault rape pregnancy is extremely rare. If we use the figure of 200, it is 4 per state per year.

Link

/They basically feel "He was taken out of context by easily offended libs plus he was right so can we please focus on ending the Obamugabe reign?!"
 
2012-08-20 12:30:35 AM  

jeaux65: Riothamus: Name_Omitted: Insult Comic Bishounen: Mrtraveler01: jeaux65: Help me. I'm surrounded by the derp. So torn when I love this state so much, and hate more than half the people here.

To be honest, that sums up the thoughts of most Missourians. 

/myself included
//wishes KC and St. Louis could break apart from the rest of Missouri

How about KC and STL and a narrow corridor that contains I-70? Or KC and STL as their own states?

Screw that. You folk get no more Senators.

Give KC to Kansas. St. Louis goes to Illinois.

And force Arkansas to take the rest!

Please no, I can't take the Kansas drivers. I'll end up in jail.

Plus Kansas is so much worse than Missouri when it comes to politics...They're full of Akins.


Fark no we're not giving anything to Kansas. If anything, Missourians should march into Kansas and annex Johnson County. Half the people and most of the businesses there are from Missouri anyway.
 
2012-08-20 12:31:59 AM  

HighOnCraic: God-is-a-Taco: As expected, there's a bit of friction going on at Freepville.

I hate to see true patriots argue over such trivial things.

I won't quote them directly, but one of them posted this:

How many rape pregnancies are there? The answer is that, according to statistical reporting, there are no more than one or two pregnancies resultant from every 1,000 forcible rapes.

But, does it make sense? Let's look, using the figure of 200,000 rapes each year.

* Of the 200,000 women who were forcibly raped, one-third were either too old or too young to get pregnant. That leaves 133,000 at risk for pregnancy.
* A woman is capable of being fertilized only 3 days (perhaps 5) out of a 30-day month. Multiply our figure of 133,000 by three tenths. Three days out of 30 is one out of ten, divide 133 by ten and we have 13,300 women remaining. If we use five days out of 30 it is one out of six. Divide one hundred and thirty three thousand by six and we have 22,166 remaining.
* One-fourth of all women in the United States of childbearing age have been sterilized, so the remaining three-fourths come out to 10,000 (or 15,000).
* Only half of assailants penetrate her body and/or deposit sperm in her vagina,1 so let's cut the remaining figures in half. This gives us numbers of 5,000 (or 7,500).
* Fifteen percent of men are sterile, that drops that figure to 4,250 (or 6,375).
* Fifteen percent of non-surgically sterilized women are naturally sterile. That reduces the number to 3,600 (or 5,400).
* Another fifteen percent are on the pill and/or already pregnant. That reduces the number to 3,070 (or 4,600).
* Now factor in the fact that it takes 5-10 months for the average couple to achieve a pregnancy. Use the smaller figure of 5 months to be conservative and divide the avove figures by 5. The number drops to 600 (or 920).
* In an average population, the miscarriage rate is about 15 percent. In this case we have incredible emotional trauma. Her bod ...


So as long as the stress of the rape causes miscarriage, it doesn't count as a pregnancy? Thanks Freepers! Keep talking!
 
2012-08-20 12:32:22 AM  
Still no excuse for failing at biology.

I was subjected to a ton of Republican ads while on vacation in the middle of the state in July. The ads would all mention that they were pro-life, but mostly they boasted that they'd never compromise, and that they'd never, ever let the debt ceiling be raised(destroying the economy), and that this other person once did something not completely evil.

Totally evil scumbags, all of them.
 
2012-08-20 12:34:27 AM  

HighOnCraic: God-is-a-Taco: As expected, there's a bit of friction going on at Freepville.

I hate to see true patriots argue over such trivial things.

I won't quote them directly, but one of them posted this:
...
the miscarriage rate is about 15 percent
...


Every last one of which was a complete God-blessed person with a soul and more rights than an accused citizen or impoverished parent or impregnated rape victim.
 
2012-08-20 12:34:48 AM  

Dusk-You-n-Me: [i.imgur.com image 500x675]


That's what has me wondering about the fallout over the next couple of days.

Sure, maybe the powerful "vindictive hick" demographic at home could keep Akin competitive in his election; but that may not matter if he's called to fall on his sword. This may not be a sound clip that the party as a whole wants to get repeatedly bludgeoned with.
 
2012-08-20 12:35:28 AM  

Alphax: Still no excuse for failing at biology.

I was subjected to a ton of Republican ads while on vacation in the middle of the state in July. The ads would all mention that they were pro-life, but mostly they boasted that they'd never compromise, and that they'd never, ever let the debt ceiling be raised(destroying the economy), and that this other person once did something not completely evil.

Totally evil scumbags, all of them.


They're sociopaths. I don't know what else you can call them.
 
2012-08-20 12:37:39 AM  

Jim_Callahan: Yeah, look, I have some sympathy for, say, climate-change denier types. Climate science is legitimately a non-trivial intellectual endeavor, and you need a pretty decent degree of technical education to even understand what the experts are talking about.


Sure, some people may deny it because they don't understand it. To that, I say this:

farm5.staticflickr.com
 
2012-08-20 12:38:28 AM  

Mentat: So as long as the stress of the rape causes miscarriage, it doesn't count as a pregnancy? Thanks Freepers! Keep talking!


It's great that even as Akin's trying to back away from the statement, they're still insisting that he's right.

[you'renothelping.jpg]
 
2012-08-20 12:39:25 AM  
From the Nbcnews.com article...

"Governor Romney and Congressman Ryan disagree with Mr. Akin's statement, and a Romney-Ryan administration would not oppose abortion in instances of rape," said Romney spokeswoman Andrea Saul.

http://firstread.nbcnews.com/_news/2012/08/19/13365269-missouri-repub l ican-legitimate-rape-rarely-causes-pregnancy?lite

...So what does this do for their constituency? I know many pro-lifers wouldn't tolerate this without some blinders.
 
2012-08-20 12:39:28 AM  

HighOnCraic:
* One-fourth of all women in the United States of childbearing age have been sterilized, so the remaining three-fourths come out to 10,000 (or 15,000).


Citation needed. On all of it. But this one especially.
 
2012-08-20 12:41:22 AM  

BSABSVR: They were convinced until about mid June that somehow Sarah Palin would make a play at the convention. For people who profess such passion for saving America from liberals, they seem to have real problems understanding how American politics actually work.


That's just wishful thinking, and one of the reasons I think the convention will be hellish: up until now the Base who doesn't support/like Romney has always had some vague hope so they can keep believing that 'their' party will somehow make the 'right' decision, no matter how unlikely it seems. When Romney is finally nominated, that's it. And those people who thought Palin would swoop in are going to be quite angry. The only real question is how many of them there are, how the media will handle it, and what the backlash will be.

That's probably another reason why the Republicans want this guy gone. It's going to be hard to spin this without bringing more attention to it, and the Republican Party has a hard enough job dealing with Romney's effect on the Congressional races. This on top of Romney's gaffe machine is going to sink 2012 for the Republicans and really cause their Base to riot.
 
2012-08-20 12:41:54 AM  

jeaux65: "Governor Romney and Congressman Ryan disagree with Mr. Akin's statement, and a Romney-Ryan administration would not oppose abortion in instances of rape," said Romney spokeswoman Andrea Saul.


So, Governor Mitt Romney (Mormon) and Congressman Paul Ryan (Catholic) are pro-murder-of-innocent-little-tiny-babies.

Got it.
 
2012-08-20 12:42:07 AM  

vygramul: IntertubeUser: I used to be a Republican, even volunteered to do door-to-door work for a couple of congressional campaign. But even when there's a GOP candidate who isn't batshiat crazy, I wonder if they're merely hiding it better and/or if it's a good idea to support a candidate of a party which tolerates and panders to batshiat craziness.

So I want to thank the Theocrats for probably turning me into a Democrat. For the first time in my life, my November ballot will be straight Democrat. It's a shame because I still believe that there's a conservative argument to be made in fiscal matters and governance. However, I've given up on the modern Republican Party ever being able to make that argument.

Join the club. There's a few of us around.


The Rassholes pushed me out much earlier, however, you are welcome. I'd love to see a party based on Personal Responsibility, Government as Last Resort, I hope I don't die before I do.
 
2012-08-20 12:42:53 AM  

jeaux65: From the Nbcnews.com article...

"Governor Romney and Congressman Ryan disagree with Mr. Akin's statement, and a Romney-Ryan administration would not oppose abortion in instances of rape," said Romney spokeswoman Andrea Saul.

http://firstread.nbcnews.com/_news/2012/08/19/13365269-missouri-repub l ican-legitimate-rape-rarely-causes-pregnancy?lite

...So what does this do for their constituency? I know many pro-lifers wouldn't tolerate this without some blinders.


Akin is obviously a Democratic plant, forcing Rmoney to take a stand on something.
 
2012-08-20 12:44:37 AM  

HighOnCraic: Akin's trying to back away from the statement


Not really.
 
2012-08-20 12:45:21 AM  

Guntram Shatterhand: BSABSVR: They were convinced until about mid June that somehow Sarah Palin would make a play at the convention. For people who profess such passion for saving America from liberals, they seem to have real problems understanding how American politics actually work.

That's just wishful thinking, and one of the reasons I think the convention will be hellish: up until now the Base who doesn't support/like Romney has always had some vague hope so they can keep believing that 'their' party will somehow make the 'right' decision, no matter how unlikely it seems. When Romney is finally nominated, that's it. And those people who thought Palin would swoop in are going to be quite angry. The only real question is how many of them there are, how the media will handle it, and what the backlash will be.

That's probably another reason why the Republicans want this guy gone. It's going to be hard to spin this without bringing more attention to it, and the Republican Party has a hard enough job dealing with Romney's effect on the Congressional races. This on top of Romney's gaffe machine is going to sink 2012 for the Republicans and really cause their Base to riot.


They won't be that mad. For all the vitriol that the base threw around about Romney, he's the nominee, he picked a base approved running mate and he isn't Obama.

Now, if Romney loses in November, then they'll rage.
 
2012-08-20 12:46:09 AM  

BuckTurgidson: jeaux65: "Governor Romney and Congressman Ryan disagree with Mr. Akin's statement, and a Romney-Ryan administration would not oppose abortion in instances of rape," said Romney spokeswoman Andrea Saul.

So, Governor Mitt Romney (Mormon) and Congressman Paul Ryan (Catholic) are pro-murder-of-innocent-little-tiny-babies.

Got it.


Romney's painted himself into so many corners that his house by be a dodecahedron.
 
2012-08-20 12:46:53 AM  

Name_Omitted: Insult Comic Bishounen: Mrtraveler01: jeaux65: Help me. I'm surrounded by the derp. So torn when I love this state so much, and hate more than half the people here.

To be honest, that sums up the thoughts of most Missourians. 

/myself included
//wishes KC and St. Louis could break apart from the rest of Missouri

How about KC and STL and a narrow corridor that contains I-70? Or KC and STL as their own states?

Screw that. You folk get no more Senators.


sooo...may we have at least one then?
 
2012-08-20 12:47:25 AM  

HighOnCraic:
I won't quote them directly, but one of them posted this:


Those statisticals are painful.
I really need to stay away from anything with "Christian" in the name of the website, except Christian Science Monitor that somehow manages to be derpfree.
 
2012-08-20 12:47:31 AM  

jeaux65: From the Nbcnews.com article...

"Governor Romney and Congressman Ryan disagree with Mr. Akin's statement, and a Romney-Ryan administration would not oppose abortion in instances of rape," said Romney spokeswoman Andrea Saul.


"We will gladly provide our specifics on when abortion is or is not allowed at some point in January"
 
2012-08-20 12:47:52 AM  

HighOnCraic: Freeper Madness!


Not to excuse the Freeper but that was a copy-pasta from one of the Christian Family Traditions for American Life or whatever those groups always call themselves.

Here's an interesting take on the subject which takes into account a number of variables that would both raise and lower the pregnancy rate among victims of rape. For example, not all forced penetration is vaginal.

In 2004-2005, 64,080 women were raped. According to medical reports, the incidence of pregnancy for one-time unprotected sexual intercourse is 5%. By applying the pregnancy rate to 64,080 women, RAINN estimates that there were 3,204 pregnancies as a result of rape during that period.

This calculation does not account for the following factors which could lower the actual number of pregnancies:

Rape, as defined by the NCVS, is forced sexual intercourse. Forced sexual intercourse means vaginal, oral, or anal penetration by offender(s). This category includes incidents where the penetration is from a foreign object such as a bottle. Certain types of rape under this definition cannot cause pregnancy.

Some victims of rape may be utilizing birth control methods, such as the pill, which will prevent pregnancy.
Some rapists may wear condoms in an effort to avoid DNA detection.

Vicims of rape may not be able to become pregnant for medical or age-related reasons.

This calculation does not account for the following factors which could raise the actual number of pregnancies:

Medical estimates of a 5% pregnancy rate are for one-time, unprotected sexual intercourse. Some victimizations may include multiple incidents of intercourse.

Because of methodology, NCVS does not measure the victimization of Americans age 12 or younger. Rapes of these young people could results in pregnancies not accounted for in RAINN's estimates.
 
2012-08-20 12:48:02 AM  

Mentat: BuckTurgidson: jeaux65: "Governor Romney and Congressman Ryan disagree with Mr. Akin's statement, and a Romney-Ryan administration would not oppose abortion in instances of rape," said Romney spokeswoman Andrea Saul.

So, Governor Mitt Romney (Mormon) and Congressman Paul Ryan (Catholic) are pro-murder-of-innocent-little-tiny-babies.

Got it.

Romney's painted himself into so many corners that his house by be a dodecahedron.


Sorry, I misspoke.
 
2012-08-20 12:50:23 AM  

Mentat: Sorry, I misspoke.


Mistakes were made.
 
2012-08-20 12:51:40 AM  

vygramul: HighOnCraic:
* One-fourth of all women in the United States of childbearing age have been sterilized, so the remaining three-fourths come out to 10,000 (or 15,000).

Citation needed. On all of it. But this one especially.


Um, dude? I was mocking the Freepers for using these silly arguments; go back and reread the post that you just quoted. There's a link at the bottom--it'sjust above the part where I mock the Freepers for using these silly arguments.
 
2012-08-20 12:51:47 AM  

BuckTurgidson: jeaux65: "Governor Romney and Congressman Ryan disagree with Mr. Akin's statement, and a Romney-Ryan administration would not oppose abortion in instances of rape," said Romney spokeswoman Andrea Saul.

So, Governor Mitt Romney (Mormon) and Congressman Paul Ryan (Catholic) are pro-murder-of-innocent-little-tiny-babies.

Got it.


Ha ha ha. You are right. They can't win.

Their base is insane, and so they can't win. On any issue, no matter how uncontroversial to most people, they can't take a moderate position without pissing off the whackjobs who hold their leashes.

Ah it's too funny!
 
2012-08-20 12:52:12 AM  

Mentat: Romney's painted himself into so many corners that his house by be a dodecahedron.


Nice.
 
2012-08-20 12:55:27 AM  

The Why Not Guy: Mentat: Sorry, I misspoke.

Mistakes were made.


Anyway, none of this would be an issue except for those in the media who are using his poor choice of words to distract from the real issue that most Americans care about: the disastrous policies of Obama's failed presidency.
 
2012-08-20 12:57:34 AM  

vygramul: HighOnCraic:
* One-fourth of all women in the United States of childbearing age have been sterilized, so the remaining three-fourths come out to 10,000 (or 15,000).

Citation needed. On all of it. But this one especially.


Just looking at it is an insult to everything humanity has accomplished in the past 5000 years.
I can say with full confidence that I hate these people.
For instance, this later quote:

And so while each assault rape pregnancy is a tragedy for the mother (not for the baby, though), we can...

fark them. To even think of doing that terrible math for such a vile purpose is a rejection of basic humanity. The world can't become secular fast enough.
 
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