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2012-08-19 10:20:00 PM

Benevolent Misanthrope: Bathia_Mapes: Benevolent Misanthrope: Oh no. Noooooo no no no no. That was not a misspeak. That was an "Oh shiat, I told the truth" moment.

I hope to all deities that McCaskill hangs this around his neck with so many knots it'll take a goddamn needle to get them undone.

And not just an "Oh shiat, I told the truth", moment, but an "Oh shiat, I told the truth", moment and got caught.

Yep - "Oh shiat I told the truth. Out loud. In front of people."

I hope to hell this kills his campaign.


It won't. McCaskill might as well be Obama's Siamese twin in MO, and it will be impossible for her to distance herself from him. She's also got the slum retirement homes here, and the private jets she was hiding in another state to avoid the property taxes.

As long as she's got those going for her, she's toast.
 
2012-08-19 10:20:18 PM
Yep, the old typical right-wing stunt. Make some sort of vile disgusting comment, and then withdraw said comment within 24 hours with a fake "apology" or say "I misspoke".

But by then, the damage has already been done and the mouthbreathers of "the base" will only remember the initial comments made.

Why won't the media call "BULLSH*T!" on this tactic? It's really fugging old.
 
2012-08-19 10:20:22 PM

Johnny Swank: Can we just blow up the gawd damn flyover states? Nothing but a bunch of inbred evangelical fundie mouthbreathers. Nothing of value will be lost.


Hey, Chicago is a world-class city with a lot of liberal voters. Minneapolis, Milwaukee, St. Louis and Kansas City are all mid-size cities that lean left.
 
2012-08-19 10:20:58 PM

ginandbacon: He's almost 8 percentage points ahead of McCaskill. Missouri loves it's douche bags.


The more ugly-minded, the better.
 
2012-08-19 10:22:09 PM
I guess it was a misspeak when he said that doctors told him that women's bodies have a special defense mechanism that keeps them from getting pregnant when they are raped.
 
2012-08-19 10:22:59 PM

shotglasss: Benevolent Misanthrope: Bathia_Mapes: Benevolent Misanthrope: Oh no. Noooooo no no no no. That was not a misspeak. That was an "Oh shiat, I told the truth" moment.

I hope to all deities that McCaskill hangs this around his neck with so many knots it'll take a goddamn needle to get them undone.

And not just an "Oh shiat, I told the truth", moment, but an "Oh shiat, I told the truth", moment and got caught.

Yep - "Oh shiat I told the truth. Out loud. In front of people."

I hope to hell this kills his campaign.

It won't. McCaskill might as well be Obama's Siamese twin in MO, and it will be impossible for her to distance herself from him. She's also got the slum retirement homes here, and the private jets she was hiding in another state to avoid the property taxes.

As long as she's got those going for her, she's toast.


Pardon me while I believe the most accurate and scientific election expert over a dumbass on the Internet.
 
2012-08-19 10:23:01 PM

dahmers love zombie: FitzShivering: Captain_Ballbeard: Leftists tend to hate anything that has an image of being strong, good and successful. They hate America, they hate Western civilization, they hate white males, they hate rationality. The reasons that leftists give for hating the West, etc. clearly do not correspond with their real motives. They SAY they hate the West because it is warlike, imperialistic, sexist, ethnocentric and so forth, but where these same faults appear in socialist countries or in primitive cultures, the leftist finds excuses for them, or at best he GRUDGINGLY admits that they exist; whereas he ENTHUSIASTICALLY points out (and often greatly exaggerates) these faults where they appear in Western civilization. Thus it is clear that these faults are not the leftist's real motive for hating America and the West. He hates America and the West because they are strong and successful.

0/10. -1 for being completely unrelated to anything. So, -1/10.

He was plagiarizing from the Unabomber's Manifesto. I think it's possible he's being satirical.


That's what I get for not checking comments on Fark in Google to see if they were previously written by paranoid schizophrenics. I always assume it's legitimate trolling or home-grown schizophrenia.

Of course, it still has nothing to do with anything, so, if satire, a failure at it.
 
2012-08-19 10:23:05 PM

elchip: Hey, Chicago is a world-class city with a lot of liberal voters. Minneapolis, Milwaukee, St. Louis and Kansas City are all mid-size cities that lean left.


Yeah, but the large amount of derp in the suburbs of those cities cancel out the more sane voters in the city.

Different story out East where it's more a difference between red in the country, purple in the suburbs, and blue in the cities.

And I say this as someone who lives in a rabidly conservative suburb of St. Louis.
 
2012-08-19 10:23:45 PM

Smelly McUgly: So are Republicans trying to marginalize themselves, or are they just stupid?


They're playing to their base. This helps them among the demographic they seek. They don't want new voters, just the same people that make up "real" America.
 
2012-08-19 10:24:25 PM

shotglasss: It won't. McCaskill might as well be Obama's Siamese twin in MO, and it will be impossible for her to distance herself from him. She's also got the slum retirement homes here, and the private jets she was hiding in another state to avoid the property taxes.

As long as she's got those going for her, she's toast.


The Ozarks would vote for a water cooler if it was on the Republican ticket.

It doesn't matter what you guys think because you guys will always predictably vote Republican.
 
2012-08-19 10:24:36 PM

olddeegee: Smelly McUgly: So are Republicans trying to marginalize themselves, or are they just stupid?

They're playing to their base. This helps them among the demographic they seek. They don't want new voters, just the same people that make up "real" America.


I doubt this was planned. I agree with the prior Maalox comment about the people on his campaign.
 
2012-08-19 10:27:49 PM

pippi longstocking: The USA is becoming a place where the plutocracy does whatever it wants without much effort. They just find the dumbest people from wealthy families, put a suit on them and let them derp their way in to the hearts of the ignorant and hateful masses.


I went to see The Campaign this weekend, and that was pretty much the plot of the movie. For a silly Will Ferrel and Zack G. movie, it really didn't pull its punches when it comes to how farked up American politics has become. Of course, it was directed by the same guy who did Recount and Game Change for HBO.
 
2012-08-19 10:29:10 PM
When someone says they "misspoke", it's kinda important to explain what you were meaning to say, because saying "misspoke" implies there's a phrasing or wording that makes what you said not completely dumbassed.

I'd love to hear said explanation.
 
2012-08-19 10:29:57 PM

TV's Vinnie: Yep, the old typical right-wing stunt. Make some sort of vile disgusting comment, and then withdraw said comment within 24 hours with a fake "apology" or say "I misspoke".

But by then, the damage has already been done and the mouthbreathers of "the base" will only remember the initial comments made.

Why won't the media call "BULLSH*T!" on this tactic? It's really fugging old.


The media has some really weird rules about this stuff. All apologies, whether a genuine "I should not have said that or anything like that and it's not what I believe" or "I'm sorry if you were offended" must be treated the same. Also, saying something that has bad language is uncivil, regardless of what it's in response to.

If someone in politics were to call Akin an asshole, that would be equal to or worse than saying "ain't no such thing as a rape baby".

/"Tempers Flare, Accusations Fly in Spirited Womb Debate"
 
2012-08-19 10:30:30 PM

stoli n coke: dywed88: How is this "misspeaking"? He never actually said what was misspoken.

Was the word "legitimate" not supposed to be included? I could see that a "misspeaking". Of course, if true, that still leaves his comments as slightly less morally abhorrent and completely untrue.
Adding a word or poor phrasing, I can give him the benefit of the doubt because I have no knowledge of him.

The problem was his entire statement. That is not misspeaking.

In GOP-speak, "misspoke" = "I was saying something I believe and the wrong person heard it, so I have to pretend that I didn't mean what I said."

Remember, this is a party that accuses reporters of taking things out of context for running full, unedited quotes.


It applies to politicians of all sides, everywhere. But they usually try to justify it better than this.
 
2012-08-19 10:31:21 PM
I'm sure he'll be sorry for this comment...in November after he gets his ass handed to him, the cocksucker.
 
2012-08-19 10:32:27 PM

Harry_Seldon: And not one vote was changed.


For fark's sake, THIS. He could have said a lot worse than this and still retain his lead.
 
2012-08-19 10:34:56 PM

Mrtraveler01: shotglasss: It won't. McCaskill might as well be Obama's Siamese twin in MO, and it will be impossible for her to distance herself from him. She's also got the slum retirement homes here, and the private jets she was hiding in another state to avoid the property taxes.

As long as she's got those going for her, she's toast.

The Ozarks would vote for a water cooler if it was on the Republican ticket.

It doesn't matter what you guys think because you guys will always predictably vote Republican.


cameroncrazy1984: shotglasss: Benevolent Misanthrope: Bathia_Mapes: Benevolent Misanthrope: Oh no. Noooooo no no no no. That was not a misspeak. That was an "Oh shiat, I told the truth" moment.

I hope to all deities that McCaskill hangs this around his neck with so many knots it'll take a goddamn needle to get them undone.

And not just an "Oh shiat, I told the truth", moment, but an "Oh shiat, I told the truth", moment and got caught.

Yep - "Oh shiat I told the truth. Out loud. In front of people."

I hope to hell this kills his campaign.

It won't. McCaskill might as well be Obama's Siamese twin in MO, and it will be impossible for her to distance herself from him. She's also got the slum retirement homes here, and the private jets she was hiding in another state to avoid the property taxes.

As long as she's got those going for her, she's toast.

Pardon me while I believe the most accurate and scientific election expert over a dumbass on the Internet.


U mad bro? Yep, u mad. You're an idiot in New York, but you want to call me a dumbass for stating an opinion based on what I know about the state I live in. You're just pissed that I call Claire out on some illegal activities she's had going on here. Face it, she's going to lose unless KC and STL pull out all the fraud they can muster.
 
2012-08-19 10:35:01 PM
"First of all, from what I understand from doctors [pregnancy from rape] is really rare," Akin told KTVI-TV in an interview posted Sunday. "If it's a legitimate rape, the female body has ways to try to shut that whole thing down." (From the link in the article)

Frankly, I could have accepted he misspoke. "Legitimate rape" reads to me like Whoopi Goldberg's "rape-rape" to some extent except focusing on an attack as opposed to coercion or intoxication, and I assume he intends to say the physical trauma causes some reaction which lowers the chance of pregnancy (a claim I do not know the veracity of but I find a little dubious). However, his recent statement leads me to believe he thinks rape which is not physically forced is not a legitimate form of rape. There is simply no clarification of his words, only the restatement of his position against reproductive rights.

Everyone will say something deeply offensive and idiotic, but Akin is at his core deeply offensive and idiotic because he does not recognize what he did. This is not political maneuvering to keep votes but political maneuvering to get votes. What a disgraceful disregard for victims of sexual assault in any form and inept politicking to boot.
 
2012-08-19 10:36:16 PM
Above post not directed at Mrtraveler.
 
2012-08-19 10:36:24 PM

Zerochance: Harry_Seldon: And not one vote was changed.

For fark's sake, THIS. He could have said a lot worse than this and still retain his lead.


People smarter than you have said otherwise.
 
2012-08-19 10:37:23 PM
<b><a href="http://www.fark.com/comments/7276813/78816522#c78816522" target="_blank">Flying Lasagna Monster</a>:</b> <i>[cdn1.teapartytribune.com image 604x402] 

Claire didn't have a prayer of winning this race. But then Todd Akin opened his mouth.</i>

Seriously. This was supposed to be a solid GOP pickup in the Senate, but now it's McCaskill's race to lose.
 
2012-08-19 10:37:26 PM

pippi longstocking: The USA is becoming a place where the plutocracy does whatever it wants without much effort. They just find the dumbest people from wealthy families, put a suit on them and let them derp their way in to the hearts of the ignorant and hateful masses.


Well put.
 
2012-08-19 10:38:24 PM

Zerochance: Harry_Seldon: And not one vote was changed.

For fark's sake, THIS. He could have said a lot worse than this and still retain his lead.


If the Breitbart team continues defending him, it will probably mean that he gets record setting donations this week.
 
2012-08-19 10:39:58 PM

thornhill: <b><a href="http://www.fark.com/comments/7276813/78816522#c78816522" target="_blank">Flying Lasagna Monster</a>:</b> <i>[cdn1.teapartytribune.com image 604x402] 

Claire didn't have a prayer of winning this race. But then Todd Akin opened his mouth.</i>

Seriously. This was supposed to be a solid GOP pickup in the Senate, but now it's McCaskill's race to lose.


I wouldn't say it's Claire's to lose, because there are so many dyed in the wool believers for the GOP in the rural parts of Missouri.

But her odds of winning definitely did shoot up today.
 
2012-08-19 10:40:47 PM

Mrtraveler01: shotglasss: It won't. McCaskill might as well be Obama's Siamese twin in MO, and it will be impossible for her to distance herself from him. She's also got the slum retirement homes here, and the private jets she was hiding in another state to avoid the property taxes.

As long as she's got those going for her, she's toast.

The Ozarks would vote for a water cooler if it was on the Republican ticket.

It doesn't matter what you guys think because you guys will always predictably vote Republican.


And the urban areas predictably vote for the most liberal candidate, means nothing. I could run a shaved cat in north STL county and it would win if I said it was Lacy Clay's. The point is, that McCaskill is unpopular in the majority of the state and is going to lose. Just the ad where Obama says that he couldn't have gotten Obamacare passed without her help is devastating to her, without even bringing up the other things she is known for.
 
2012-08-19 10:41:23 PM
When will the GOP realize that their extreme views on abortion only hurt? Polls show that most Americans support some restrictions on abortion, but when your party platform is that all abortions should be outlawed, you get candidates who say crap like this, or midwest state passing insane laws, which drive moderate social conservatives to the other side.
 
2012-08-19 10:42:25 PM

shotglasss: Mrtraveler01: shotglasss: It won't. McCaskill might as well be Obama's Siamese twin in MO, and it will be impossible for her to distance herself from him. She's also got the slum retirement homes here, and the private jets she was hiding in another state to avoid the property taxes.

As long as she's got those going for her, she's toast.

The Ozarks would vote for a water cooler if it was on the Republican ticket.

It doesn't matter what you guys think because you guys will always predictably vote Republican.

cameroncrazy1984: shotglasss: Benevolent Misanthrope: Bathia_Mapes: Benevolent Misanthrope: Oh no. Noooooo no no no no. That was not a misspeak. That was an "Oh shiat, I told the truth" moment.

I hope to all deities that McCaskill hangs this around his neck with so many knots it'll take a goddamn needle to get them undone.

And not just an "Oh shiat, I told the truth", moment, but an "Oh shiat, I told the truth", moment and got caught.

Yep - "Oh shiat I told the truth. Out loud. In front of people."

I hope to hell this kills his campaign.

It won't. McCaskill might as well be Obama's Siamese twin in MO, and it will be impossible for her to distance herself from him. She's also got the slum retirement homes here, and the private jets she was hiding in another state to avoid the property taxes.

As long as she's got those going for her, she's toast.

Pardon me while I believe the most accurate and scientific election expert over a dumbass on the Internet.

U mad bro? Yep, u mad. You're an idiot in New York, but you want to call me a dumbass for stating an opinion based on what I know about the state I live in. You're just pissed that I call Claire out on some illegal activities she's had going on here. Face it, she's going to lose unless KC and STL pull out all the fraud they can muster.



Arresting the Stone Buddha

A merchant bearing fifty rolls of cotton goods on his shoulders stopped to rest from the heat of the day beneath a shelter where a large stone Buddha was standing. There he fell asleep, and when he awoke his goods had disappeared. He immediately reported the matter to the police.

A judge named O-oka opened court to investigate. "That stone Buddha must have stolen the goods," concluded the judge. "He is supposed to care for the welfare of the people, but he has failed to perform his holy duty. Arrest him."

The police arrested the stone Buddha and carried it into the court. A noisy croud followed the statue, curious to learn what kind of a sentence the judge was about to impose.

When O-oka appeared on the bench he rebuked the boisterous audience. "What right have you people to appear before the court laughing and joking in this manner? You are in contempt of court and subject to a fine and imprisonment."

The people hastened to apologize. "I shall have to impose a fine on you," said the judge, "but I will remit it provided each one of you brings one roll of cotton goods to the court within three days. Anyone failing to do this will be arrested."

One of the rolls of cloth which the people brought was quickly recognized by the merchant as his own, and thus the thief was easily discovered. The merchant recovered his goods, and the cotton rolls were returned to the people.
 
2012-08-19 10:44:17 PM

shotglasss: Mrtraveler01: shotglasss: It won't. McCaskill might as well be Obama's Siamese twin in MO, and it will be impossible for her to distance herself from him. She's also got the slum retirement homes here, and the private jets she was hiding in another state to avoid the property taxes.

As long as she's got those going for her, she's toast.

The Ozarks would vote for a water cooler if it was on the Republican ticket.

It doesn't matter what you guys think because you guys will always predictably vote Republican.

And the urban areas predictably vote for the most liberal candidate, means nothing. I could run a shaved cat in north STL county and it would win if I said it was Lacy Clay's. The point is, that McCaskill is unpopular in the majority of the state and is going to lose. Just the ad where Obama says that he couldn't have gotten Obamacare passed without her help is devastating to her, without even bringing up the other things she is known for.


So you don't think this is damaging in any way to the Akin campaign? 

Before today, I would've said that this was Todd Akin's to lose. Today it seems, Todd Akin is trying to lost the election.
 
2012-08-19 10:45:07 PM

Lost Thought 00: Name_Omitted: ginandbacon: He's almost 8 percentage points ahead of McCaskill. Missouri loves it's douche bags.

Was. We'll see.

I can't imagine anyone who supported him changing their mind over this. After all, this falls in line with the Christian Doctrine he based his campaign on.


Pretty much this. They will do the same old "oh it is all an attack by the evil atheists/muslims/whatever boogieman it is of the week and he is must too good to say such a thing so we should vote for the guy even more. He could rape his supporters and they would see it as an decisive act and thank him for showing them how they need protecting from that evil usurper in the white house.
 
2012-08-19 10:45:20 PM

Noam Chimpsky: The anti-lifers have kind of a dilemma when talking about aborting the rape conceived children. It makes the other abortions seem more and more vile. Same thing with the life of the mother at risk if she carries to term scenario. Your convenience aborters really feel like shiat when they hear the debate.


Go choke on a bag of dicks you douchebag.
 
2012-08-19 10:46:15 PM
whoopi-rape-rape.jpg approves.
 
2012-08-19 10:47:10 PM

thornhill: When will the GOP realize that their extreme views on abortion only hurt? Polls show that most Americans support some restrictions on abortion, but when your party platform is that all abortions should be outlawed, you get candidates who say crap like this, or midwest state passing insane laws, which drive moderate social conservatives to the other side.


The thing is, his original statement didn't even involve abortion. It was strictly voicing his opinion that in some cases of rape, the woman is asking for it - proven by the fact that she chose to get pregnant. That statement should be equally offensive to both George Tiller and the guy that shot him.
 
2012-08-19 10:47:33 PM
As a person that has lived in Missouri for 41 years I can say that this giant douche will win.

Why?

Because anyone who is not Claire will win. Claire McCaskill was an early and major supporter of Obama - the uppity negro that we hate so much. Seriously, 2008 was a Democratic avalanche in MO, except for president since we went solidly for McCain. This is a foul, racist and bigoted state that my wife won't let me leave. I was living in mid-Missouri in 1994 and I distinctly remember the senatorial election between Alan Wheat (who was black) and John Ashcroft. The push from the GOP was that their man Ashcroft was the white guy running against a black guy, and you know.... That was it. No positions, just make sure everyone knows that Wheat=black. It was sickening. Rural Missouri is a vile place.
 
2012-08-19 10:50:16 PM

madgonad: As a person that has lived in Missouri for 41 years I can say that this giant douche will win.

Why?

Because anyone who is not Claire will win. Claire McCaskill was an early and major supporter of Obama - the uppity negro that we hate so much. Seriously, 2008 was a Democratic avalanche in MO, except for president since we went solidly for McCain. This is a foul, racist and bigoted state that my wife won't let me leave. I was living in mid-Missouri in 1994 and I distinctly remember the senatorial election between Alan Wheat (who was black) and John Ashcroft. The push from the GOP was that their man Ashcroft was the white guy running against a black guy, and you know.... That was it. No positions, just make sure everyone knows that Wheat=black. It was sickening. Rural Missouri is a vile place.


At least it looks like you reached some oasis of sanity. Not sure how Liberty is politically but if it's anything like Lee's Summit, then I might have to withdraw my comment.
 
2012-08-19 10:50:29 PM

bigbadideasinaction: When someone says they "misspoke", it's kinda important to explain what you were meaning to say, because saying "misspoke" implies there's a phrasing or wording that makes what you said not completely dumbassed.

I'd love to hear said explanation.


I agree - for one because you know he would dig himself even deeper.
 
2012-08-19 10:50:54 PM

Karac: thornhill: When will the GOP realize that their extreme views on abortion only hurt? Polls show that most Americans support some restrictions on abortion, but when your party platform is that all abortions should be outlawed, you get candidates who say crap like this, or midwest state passing insane laws, which drive moderate social conservatives to the other side.

The thing is, his original statement didn't even involve abortion. It was strictly voicing his opinion that in some cases of rape, the woman is asking for it - proven by the fact that she chose to get pregnant. That statement should be equally offensive to both George Tiller and the guy that shot him.


Not if you aren't a big fan of women and their leg-baring ways.
 
2012-08-19 10:55:17 PM
Won't Jesus come get these morons if we blow up a temple in Israel or something?
 
2012-08-19 10:56:00 PM
Rincewind53: 2. At no point did he apologize or explain what he means by the bizarre assertion that women who were raped wouldn't get pregnant as a result
Rincewind53: 2. At no point did he apologize or explain what he means by the bizarre assertion that women who were raped wouldn't get pregnant as a result
Rincewind53: 2. At no point did he apologize or explain what he means by the bizarre assertion that women who were raped wouldn't get pregnant as a result
Rincewind53: 2. At no point did he apologize or explain what he means by the bizarre assertion that women who were raped wouldn't get pregnant as a result
Rincewind53: 2. At no point did he apologize or explain what he means by the bizarre assertion that women who were raped wouldn't get pregnant as a result

Yeah, that needs repeating a few more times.

(1&3 seem the usual GOP moral stupidities, which have more room for debate. #2 is about the Facts Of Life.)
 
2012-08-19 10:56:10 PM
That's a pretty long non-apology. 
I think he dug the hole deeper, but not deep enough to not get elected as he hasn't quite entered the Earth's core yet.
 
2012-08-19 10:57:02 PM

balloot: Zerochance: Harry_Seldon: And not one vote was changed.

For fark's sake, THIS. He could have said a lot worse than this and still retain his lead.

People smarter than you have said otherwise.


Ah, blow me. The only valid example was Macaca Allen, and that was in 2006, pre-Obama, when racial insensitivity actually hurt you in a campaign. He'll lose some points, but this is the state that has a bust of Rush Limbaugh in the state Capitol. This asshole will win.
 
2012-08-19 10:57:59 PM

COMALite J: Goodfella: Republicans:

"Women always complaining about getting raped. They just need to stop complaining and learn to turn rape into lemonade."

Actually, a politician "jokingly" saying something similar to that way back in 1990 is how George W. Bush became Governor of Texas, enabling him to run for and become President.

That "joke" took less than ten seconds to tell, but future historians may mark it as what made the fall of the USA inevitable.

The politician was Clayton Williams, Republican candidate for Governor. He was comfortably ahead of the Democratic female candidate, the now sadly late Ann Richards (the lady who gave us, "You'll have to excuse him. He was born with a silver foot in his mouth"), and had outspent her by two-fold. He had the election in the bag. And then, he blew it. He quipped about the weather at a pre-election event: "[the weather is] kinda like rape. If it's inevitable, just relax and enjoy it."

Ann Richards won largely because of that. She subsequently lost her re-election bid to George W. Bush, who wouldn't even have run had Clayton been the incumbent Governor, since the Texas GOP wouldn't likely want to run any serious challengers against their incumbent.


And Richards lost because she didn't think shrub was much of a threat, being borderline retarded and all.
 
2012-08-19 10:58:38 PM

Mrtraveler01: At least it looks like you reached some oasis of sanity. Not sure how Liberty is politically but if it's anything like Lee's Summit, then I might have to withdraw my comment.


We have the moron Sam Graves(R) as a Rep. When I moved here I changed from voting against Cleaver (D) to voting against Graves (R). The State Reps/Senate seats are (R), but they aren't idiots. The mayor is (D) and has been quite good. The main reason I am here is for the school district, one of the best in the state. I would prefer moving to Chicago, western Washington/Oregon, or Colorado - but I am stuck here.
 
2012-08-19 11:00:15 PM

Zerochance: The only valid example was Macaca Allen, and that was in 2006, pre-Obama, when racial insensitivity actually hurt you in a campaign. He'll lose some points, but this is the state that has a bust of Rush Limbaugh in the state Capitol. This asshole will win.


Allen? Polling's going against him, last I heard....
 
2012-08-19 11:02:22 PM

madgonad: Mrtraveler01: At least it looks like you reached some oasis of sanity. Not sure how Liberty is politically but if it's anything like Lee's Summit, then I might have to withdraw my comment.

We have the moron Sam Graves(R) as a Rep. When I moved here I changed from voting against Cleaver (D) to voting against Graves (R). The State Reps/Senate seats are (R), but they aren't idiots. The mayor is (D) and has been quite good. The main reason I am here is for the school district, one of the best in the state. I would prefer moving to Chicago, western Washington/Oregon, or Colorado - but I am stuck here.


At least you got some good BBQ.

But I don't blame you about wanting to leave this state.
 
2012-08-19 11:06:05 PM

shotglasss: but you want to call me a dumbass for stating an opinion based on what I know about the state I live in.


No, I call you a dumbass for stating an opinion that is not based in fact. Nate Silver stated a fact.
 
2012-08-19 11:08:37 PM

abb3w: Rincewind53: 2. At no point did he apologize or explain what he means by the bizarre assertion that women who were raped wouldn't get pregnant as a result
Rincewind53: 2. At no point did he apologize or explain what he means by the bizarre assertion that women who were raped wouldn't get pregnant as a result
Rincewind53: 2. At no point did he apologize or explain what he means by the bizarre assertion that women who were raped wouldn't get pregnant as a result
Rincewind53: 2. At no point did he apologize or explain what he means by the bizarre assertion that women who were raped wouldn't get pregnant as a result
Rincewind53: 2. At no point did he apologize or explain what he means by the bizarre assertion that women who were raped wouldn't get pregnant as a result


Yeah, that needs repeating a few more times.

 
2012-08-19 11:10:19 PM
Perhaps the most significant outcome of this whole flap is that the GOP is going to have to completely abandon their "no abortion in cases of rape" stance. No politician will dare hold that view now. Paul Ryan, as part of the Romney ticket, has already flip flopped on it this afternoon.
 
2012-08-19 11:10:59 PM

Mrtraveler01: shotglasss: Mrtraveler01: shotglasss: It won't. McCaskill might as well be Obama's Siamese twin in MO, and it will be impossible for her to distance herself from him. She's also got the slum retirement homes here, and the private jets she was hiding in another state to avoid the property taxes.

As long as she's got those going for her, she's toast.

The Ozarks would vote for a water cooler if it was on the Republican ticket.

It doesn't matter what you guys think because you guys will always predictably vote Republican.

And the urban areas predictably vote for the most liberal candidate, means nothing. I could run a shaved cat in north STL county and it would win if I said it was Lacy Clay's. The point is, that McCaskill is unpopular in the majority of the state and is going to lose. Just the ad where Obama says that he couldn't have gotten Obamacare passed without her help is devastating to her, without even bringing up the other things she is known for.

So you don't think this is damaging in any way to the Akin campaign? 

Before today, I would've said that this was Todd Akin's to lose. Today it seems, Todd Akin is trying to lost the election.


In the long run, probably not. What he said was stupid, no question about it, and I disagree with the statement that a rape victim should be required to carry a resulting pregnancy to term. A D&C should be done in rape cases to stop a pregnancy as soon as the victim gets to a hospital. Most of the people I know agree with that position. If Akin were to adopt this position, he would get past this quickly.
 
2012-08-19 11:11:40 PM

cameroncrazy1984: shotglasss: but you want to call me a dumbass for stating an opinion based on what I know about the state I live in.

No, I call you a dumbass for stating an opinion that is not based in fact. Nate Silver stated a fact.


And I call you a dumbass for....being one.
 
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