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2012-08-19 05:18:56 PM
...known in Japan as the Senkaku Islands and in China as the Diaoyu Islands.

China has made more than a few moves to exercise it's growing global power and those moves have alarmed Japan and helped feed the fires of a rising nationalism there leading to this stunt.

Not good.
 
2012-08-19 06:16:27 PM
Japan activists land, raise flags on disputed isle

nationalist activists swam ashore


Hate to pick nits, but is that really "landing"?
 
2012-08-19 06:46:00 PM
You REALLY want to have fun? Take a look at the cluster fark which is the south china sea.
"The nine-dotted line drawn by China which marks its claim covers around three-fourths of the total area of the South China Sea."

China has basically said "IT'S ALL MINE!!!!!!"
There will be wars over this. It is only a matter of when, not if.
 
2012-08-19 07:09:50 PM
So, like Cyprus, why can't they half it.
 
2012-08-19 07:18:32 PM
Q the "its only going to get worse, and we will be lucky to survive" pic.

/anyone?
 
2012-08-19 07:18:52 PM
Japan likes to raise flags on random rocks sticking out of the ocean to randomly extend fishing rights.

Since they can't invade nations anymore they have to act out somehow.
 
2012-08-19 07:19:40 PM

namatad: You REALLY want to have fun? Take a look at the cluster fark which is the south china sea.
"The nine-dotted line drawn by China which marks its claim covers around three-fourths of the total area of the South China Sea."

China has basically said "IT'S ALL MINE!!!!!!"
There will be wars over this. It is only a matter of when, not if.


China has quite the surplus of excess males right now, a problem usually solved in history by making war. Good luck, you forced-abortion dealing, fetus soup eating Communist boot lickers.
 
2012-08-19 07:21:34 PM

Enemabag Jones: Japan likes to raise flags on random rocks sticking out of the ocean to randomly extend fishing rights.

Since they can't invade nations anymore they have to act out somehow.


Are you farking kidding? Do you actually know anything at all about the clusterfark all over Asia, or are you just parroting the Korean/Chinese party line like a good little nationalist douchebag?
 
2012-08-19 07:21:39 PM

Captain_Ballbeard: fetus soup


Great. Now I am hungry again.
 
2012-08-19 07:21:59 PM
Holy sh*t! Those peeps got balls. Now that the US Marine base is evacuated due to the fact that both China and Japan own us, I believe a long standing confrontation will abound. Cool.
 
2012-08-19 07:26:53 PM
China is the new Japan.
 
2012-08-19 07:27:18 PM
Modern day Wakou?
 
2012-08-19 07:28:01 PM
memedepot.com
 
2012-08-19 07:28:35 PM
img151.imageshack.us
 
2012-08-19 07:32:15 PM

namatad: You REALLY want to have fun? Take a look at the cluster fark which is the south china sea.
"The nine-dotted line drawn by China which marks its claim covers around three-fourths of the total area of the South China Sea."

China has basically said "IT'S ALL MINE!!!!!!"
There will be wars over this. It is only a matter of when, not if.


about 6 months after China figures out this new "aircraft carrier" thing that they've been playing with
 
2012-08-19 07:34:00 PM
bakarocket ,
Enemabag Jones: Japan likes to raise flags on random rocks sticking out of the ocean to randomly extend fishing rights.
Since they can't invade nations anymore they have to act out somehow.
Are you farking kidding? Do you actually know anything at all about the clusterfark all over Asia, or are you just parroting the Korean/Chinese party line like a good little nationalist douchebag?

I know that Japan has done this same shiat with Korea by raising a flag on some rock between Korea and Japan. A fishing vessel escorted by military boats raised a flag to extend fishing territory.

I don't claim to be a specialist on fishing boundries and disputes, but Japan can be a first class asshole in these matters.

In reality both parties should work together and not be based on upon who planted a flag first 200 years ago on some random rock in the ocean. Too bad reality does not work that way.
 
2012-08-19 07:35:19 PM
Didn't anybody read the "The Bear and the Dragon"? Greater East Asian Co-Prosperity Sphere, redux. Get the Seventh Fleet ready.
 
2012-08-19 07:35:28 PM

Enemabag Jones: Japan likes to raise flags on random rocks sticking out of the ocean to randomly extend fishing rights.


i159.photobucket.com
 
2012-08-19 07:39:40 PM
Tax Boy,
Enemabag Jones: Japan likes to raise flags on random rocks sticking out of the ocean to randomly extend fishing rights.
[eddie_izzard.jpg]


Eddie Izzard is one badass transvestite.
 
2012-08-19 07:42:49 PM

namatad: You REALLY want to have fun? Take a look at the cluster fark which is the south china sea.
"The nine-dotted line drawn by China which marks its claim covers around three-fourths of the total area of the South China Sea."

China has basically said "IT'S ALL MINE!!!!!!"
There will be wars over this. It is only a matter of when, not if.


upload.wikimedia.org

Yes... however, Senkaku is notably MUCH closer to China than it is mainland Japan. If you're going to give credence to geographical layout, anyhow.  Japan's claim seems related to its proximity to the thin string of Ruyku Islands.

The AP seems to have decided for itself, leading with the location as "SENKAKU ISLANDS, Japan (AP) --" Wow. Let's not do anything that might be seen as biased by someone.
 
2012-08-19 07:44:10 PM

quatchi: ...known in Japan as the Senkaku Islands and in China as the Diaoyu Islands.

China has made more than a few moves to exercise it's growing global power and those moves have alarmed Japan and helped feed the fires of a rising nationalism there leading to this stunt.

Not good.


What is facinating is that so few Westerners know of the hatred. They are all "Asian".
 
2012-08-19 07:46:24 PM

fusillade762: Japan activists land, raise flags on disputed isle

nationalist activists swam ashore

Hate to pick nits, but is that really "landing"?


Yes.
 
2012-08-19 07:46:42 PM
I wouldn't get too alarmed about this, they were probably only trying to get away from Gojira.
 
2012-08-19 07:47:47 PM
Anyone else thought this was going to be about Dok-do/Takeshima again?

/East Asia's gonna be where WW3 starts, I bet
 
2012-08-19 07:51:23 PM
FTFA: China's official Xinhua News Agency reported protests in cities across the country. Demonstrators burned Japanese flags, overturned or smashed Japanese cars and in some places broke windows of Japan-related businesses."

Translation: "We're going to break our own shiat to show you how mad we are!"

/it's like LA all over again.
//humanity can really be full of fail sometimes.
 
2012-08-19 07:54:17 PM

Tax Boy: Japan likes to raise flags


i.imgur.com
 
2012-08-19 07:57:00 PM
sleeps in trees,
What is facinating is that so few Westerners know of the hatred. They are all "Asian".


Americans have no history. Give us a few thousand more years and we will learn to develop real grudges between the Canadians and Mexicans.
 
2012-08-19 07:58:13 PM

Enemabag Jones: bakarocket ,
Enemabag Jones: Japan likes to raise flags on random rocks sticking out of the ocean to randomly extend fishing rights.
Since they can't invade nations anymore they have to act out somehow.
Are you farking kidding? Do you actually know anything at all about the clusterfark all over Asia, or are you just parroting the Korean/Chinese party line like a good little nationalist douchebag?

I know that Japan has done this same shiat with Korea by raising a flag on some rock between Korea and Japan. A fishing vessel escorted by military boats raised a flag to extend fishing territory.

I don't claim to be a specialist on fishing boundries and disputes, but Japan can be a first class asshole in these matters.

In reality both parties should work together and not be based on upon who planted a flag first 200 years ago on some random rock in the ocean. Too bad reality does not work that way.


We agree completely on how to solve the issue, but it seems you're missing a bit of information.

Fishing boats escorted my militry ships raise flag to protect Japanese claims. They have to do that because when there's a competing claim the other claimant gets the land automatically if they don't. You can say much worse about China, which has been gradually taking over island after island since the 1970's and basing their claim on farking Mongol records, and the same th ing about Korea who, after the Japanese had their asses kicked, decided that since they were weak and powerless, it would be the perfect time to steal one of their islands. So they built a tower on it and posted soldiers there. When Japan went to the UN to have them arbitrate, the Koreans said, "fark you, we're here, we obviously own it."

The Japanese are idiots as well, but politically, the only country in the region right now who officially isn't trying to start a war is Japan. I find it hard to trust anyone who blames any of it on one country, when all of them are farking dicks.
 
2012-08-19 08:03:42 PM
Escorted *by* miitary ships.

I don't have any militry ships.
 
2012-08-19 08:04:15 PM
bakarocket,
The Japanese are idiots as well, but politically, the only country in the region right now who officially isn't trying to start a war is Japan. I find it hard to trust anyone who blames any of it on one country, when all of them are farking dicks.


Agreed.
 
2012-08-19 08:04:29 PM
yellow people's problems.
 
2012-08-19 08:05:11 PM

Oznog: Yes... however, Senkaku is notably MUCH closer to China than it is mainland Japan. If you're going to give credence to geographical layout, anyhow.  Japan's claim seems related to its proximity to the thin string of Ruyku Islands.

The AP seems to have decided for itself, leading with the location as "SENKAKU ISLANDS, Japan (AP) --" Wow. Let's not do anything that might be seen as biased by someone.


sure
but using that logic, the island should belong to taiwan ... LOLOLOLOLOL
 
2012-08-19 08:09:31 PM

Oznog: The AP seems to have decided for itself, leading with the location as "SENKAKU ISLANDS, Japan (AP) --" Wow. Let's not do anything that might be seen as biased by someone.


Well, about half the islands are privately owned by the Japanese descendants of a businessman who started a failed guano(? - I forget what exactly) processing plant on them back in the day. So if AP *has* to pick a country for the dateline, Japan is probably the most accurate one, at least at the moment.

The article kind of skims over the fact that this is tit-for-tat for a group of Chinese activists doing the same thing a few days ago. It was actually a mixed group of Chinese and Taiwanese, and they came ashore waving flags from both. But via the magic of Photoshop, somehow they were all carrying PRC flags by the time the photos made it into that papers on the mainland.
 
2012-08-19 08:10:27 PM

bakarocket: Escorted *by* miitary ships.

I don't have any militry ships.



Dammmmnit!!! I was going to make you an offer (kids need a vacation).
 
2012-08-19 08:10:44 PM

LordOfThePings: fusillade762: Japan activists land, raise flags on disputed isle

nationalist activists swam ashore

Hate to pick nits, but is that really "landing"?

Yes.


Cool. Next time I get out of a pool I'm going to shout "I'M LANDING, I'M LANDING!"
 
2012-08-19 08:13:41 PM
Time for dinner, should I get City Beef or City Chicken?
 
2012-08-19 08:14:20 PM

fusillade762: Cool. Next time I get out of a pool I'm going to shout "I'M LANDING, I'M LANDING!"


Please post the video.

Do you really misunderstand the difference between an island and a pool?
 
2012-08-19 08:18:45 PM

namatad: You REALLY want to have fun? Take a look at the cluster fark which is the south china sea.
"The nine-dotted line drawn by China which marks its claim covers around three-fourths of the total area of the South China Sea."

China has basically said "IT'S ALL MINE!!!!!!"
There will be wars over this. It is only a matter of when, not if.


China has claimed these islands for hundreds of years, and antique maps from Vietnam, Korea, and Japan acknowledged that. Nobody else wanted these islands except China, until oil was discovered in the South China Sea. Now everyone wants them.
 
2012-08-19 08:21:58 PM

LordOfThePings: fusillade762: Cool. Next time I get out of a pool I'm going to shout "I'M LANDING, I'M LANDING!"

Please post the video.

Do you really misunderstand the difference between an island and a pool?


Fine. I'll do it next time I swim out of an ocean or lake.
 
2012-08-19 08:24:18 PM
www.wearysloth.com

So sorry, my island now.
 
2012-08-19 08:24:23 PM
REAL JAPS?


NO,WOODEN JAPS
 
2012-08-19 08:24:31 PM

Ozaru: namatad: You REALLY want to have fun? Take a look at the cluster fark which is the south china sea.
"The nine-dotted line drawn by China which marks its claim covers around three-fourths of the total area of the South China Sea."

China has basically said "IT'S ALL MINE!!!!!!"
There will be wars over this. It is only a matter of when, not if.

China has claimed these islands for hundreds of years, and antique maps from Vietnam, Korea, and Japan acknowledged that. Nobody else wanted these islands except China, until oil was discovered in the South China Sea. Now everyone wants them.


All of them have claimed the islands for hundreds of years, the existing maps all conflict with each other, and all of them wanted them for their rich fishing grounds.

On top of that, you have to defend your claim to land or you lose it, and China stopped defending their claims for those islands. Now, the reason they never defended their claims probably has a lot to do with the encroaching European powers limiting their ability to do so, but the same can be said about Dokdo/Takeshima. Korea took it over, even though it was recognized as Japanese territory at the time, because the Japanese couldn't defend it.

Now the converse to what I said above: None of these claims are stronger than any of the others. THe only solution in every one of these cases is shared administration and splitting the sea zones down the middle.

But they are all stubborn assholes.
 
2012-08-19 08:25:24 PM

fusillade762: Do you really misunderstand the difference between an island and a pool?

Fine. I'll do it next time I swim out of an ocean or lake.


I can see the answer to my question is "yes".
 
2012-08-19 08:29:40 PM
China should have built more broadcast towers and theatres.
 
2012-08-19 08:33:23 PM
The PRC should make a deal awith the Japanese to cede the whole shebang to Taiwan, that way when they take over Taiwan in the next 50 years, they automatically get the islands as well as Taiwan. No war with anyone and it all works out. The Chinese have been very patient historically so this could be another of their historic chess moves that they have won.
 
2012-08-19 08:36:23 PM
Let's see...WW1 got started because of territorial disputes
WW2 got started over territorial disputes
Korea got started over territorial disputes
Viet-Nam got started over territorial disputes
The 1991 gulf war got started when Iraq said Kuwait was part of it's territory.

Yes, ww1 triggered after a Serb shot an Austrian King, ww2 got started when Hitler when all crazy, but
most wars start because one side thinks they own the other sides land. Then, after ww1, the league of (useless) nations screwed things up worse by dividing countries along the wrong imaginary lines, and the united (useless) nations did the same thing at the end of ww2....LAND, it seems it's always about land.
 
2012-08-19 08:38:15 PM
Ten Japanese made an unauthorized landing on Uotsuri, the largest in a small archipelago known in Japan as the Senkaku Islands and in China as the Diaoyu Islands. The uninhabited islands surrounded by rich fishing grounds are controlled by Japan but also claimed by China and Taiwan.

So in other words, some Japanese people landed on a Japanese island that China has been trying to squat on. Nonstory.
 
2012-08-19 08:41:37 PM

phojo1946: The Chinese have been very patient historically so this could be another of their historic chess moves that they have won.


upload.wikimedia.org
wut?
 
2012-08-19 08:43:11 PM
this is better:
cannedmemory.files.wordpress.com
 
2012-08-19 08:45:33 PM
This is a Japanese Island, tina is top greedy now because they have US backing their aggressions
as Taiwan is Taiwan, not puppet china taipei
the other islands they are squabbling with Korea with is complicated.
 
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