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(Washington Post)   Alabama man doesn't understand why some people have a problem with him burying his dead wife in the front yard by the porch like she wanted   (washingtonpost.com) divider line 137
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2012-08-19 12:59:09 PM  
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2012-08-19 01:21:09 PM  
It's perfectly legal here in PA. The only rule we have is that if the corpse is propped up in the living room, it has to be on dry ice.

/seriously
 
2012-08-19 01:21:33 PM  
Even a neighbor who got into a fight with Davis over the gravesite - Davis said he punched the man - isn't comfortable with limiting what a homeowner can do with his property.

Okay, so wait until this guy is dead and the next owner of the property can move her.
 
2012-08-19 01:23:49 PM  
As long as she was already dead before he buried her, I don't see a problem.
 
2012-08-19 01:25:34 PM  
Even a neighbor who got into a fight with Davis over the gravesite - Davis said he punched the man - isn't comfortable with limiting what a homeowner can do with his property.

Yes, this neighbor is so uncomfortable with telling a homeowner what he can and cannot do on his property that he felt the need to get into a fistfight over it. Riiiight.
 
2012-08-19 01:28:57 PM  
As long as he's ok with the next owner being able to do whatever they want with her, who cares?
 
2012-08-19 01:39:22 PM  
How do you just go ahead and bury someone wherever? How do you even get the body from the coroner/funeral home if you aren't a proper cemetery?
 
2012-08-19 01:41:02 PM  

nekom: How do you just go ahead and bury someone wherever? How do you even get the body from the coroner/funeral home if you aren't a proper cemetery?


That implies you ever took the body somewhere to begin with.
 
2012-08-19 01:41:34 PM  

nekom: How do you just go ahead and bury someone wherever? How do you even get the body from the coroner/funeral home if you aren't a proper cemetery?


Forget it, Jake, it's Alabama.
 
2012-08-19 01:50:00 PM  
Good thing he didn't just want to wall her up in the house. Then he'd need a building permit.
 
2012-08-19 01:53:50 PM  

nekom: How do you just go ahead and bury someone wherever? How do you even get the body from the coroner/funeral home if you aren't a proper cemetery?


It's not a requirement in many states. As long as a death certificate is made out, the Coroner has no choice but to release the body to the next of kin.

Yes, I have legally buried friends and family buried on the property. Some folks have issues with 5000$ funerals.
 
2012-08-19 02:14:44 PM  
At least she didn't want to be "stuffed and put on the couch as a constant reminder of [their] marital vows."
 
2012-08-19 02:19:01 PM  
This is the neighboring town to the town I grew up in. This fellow applied for a permit to bury his wife in the front yard while his wife's body was in cold storage at the local funeral home. His request was denied and he was told no, you can't do that. Apparently he then convinced the funeral home that everything was cool and to bring the corpse on home.
Now there is this huge movement to just let her rest in peace, that the local government should stay out of it, never mind that he broke the law to begin with.
By the way, this is in a residential area, not in an isolated area.
 
2012-08-19 02:19:32 PM  
Right next to where the bird dog is married?
 
2012-08-19 02:21:35 PM  

eraser8: At least she didn't want to be "stuffed and put on the couch as a constant reminder of [their] marital vows."


eeek.
 
2012-08-19 02:23:38 PM  

basemetal: Right next to where the bird dog is married?


Married.......buried, same thing, right?

/damn this new comment button!
 
2012-08-19 02:28:33 PM  
For now, Davis visits his wife's grave each time he walks out the front door. He puts fresh artificial flowers on it regularly

What a romantic.
 
2012-08-19 02:28:40 PM  
Should've made a Hot Pocket.
 
2012-08-19 02:45:20 PM  

The My Little Pony Killer: Even a neighbor who got into a fight with Davis over the gravesite - Davis said he punched the man - isn't comfortable with limiting what a homeowner can do with his property.

Yes, this neighbor is so uncomfortable with telling a homeowner what he can and cannot do on his property that he felt the need to get into a fistfight over it. Riiiight.


It's Alabama. That's just being neighborly.
 
2012-08-19 03:15:15 PM  

Krymson Tyde: This is the neighboring town to the town I grew up in. This fellow applied for a permit to bury his wife in the front yard while his wife's body was in cold storage at the local funeral home. His request was denied and he was told no, you can't do that. Apparently he then convinced the funeral home that everything was cool and to bring the corpse on home.
Now there is this huge movement to just let her rest in peace, that the local government should stay out of it, never mind that he broke the law to begin with.
By the way, this is in a residential area, not in an isolated area.


I think that disinterring her now while the old guy is still alive would be pretty dickish and unnecessary thing to do.

Time will sort this one out.
 
2012-08-19 03:38:22 PM  
I can see where it could be seen as being sort of dickish, but no where near as dickish as his burying the body there was.
 
2012-08-19 03:40:34 PM  

FirstNationalBastard: [profile.ak.fbcdn.net image 200x272]


Done In One

/"I told you to shut up!"
 
2012-08-19 04:09:15 PM  

MaudlinMutantMollusk: As long as he's ok with the next owner being able to do whatever they want with her, who cares?


And I do mean whatever
 
2012-08-19 04:11:47 PM  
Holy crap people in Alabama are stupid.

But we knew that already.
 
2012-08-19 04:11:52 PM  
Throw some Christmas lights on it. Now it's a festive decoration
 
2012-08-19 04:12:00 PM  

trappedspirit: MaudlinMutantMollusk: As long as he's ok with the next owner being able to do whatever they want with her, who cares?

And I do mean whatever


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MUNGER!
 
2012-08-19 04:13:04 PM  
If I was one of his neighbors I'd be a little worried about nasty decomposition fluids ending up in my well water.

There is a reason society regulates burials.
 
2012-08-19 04:14:26 PM  
Christ, just throw a lien on the house to dispose of the wife once once the codger dies off and call it a day.
 
2012-08-19 04:14:40 PM  
Maybe he should've buried her in a rusted truck put up on cinder blocks in the front yard. Nobody would've batted an eye.
 
2012-08-19 04:14:47 PM  
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2012-08-19 04:14:55 PM  

The My Little Pony Killer: Even a neighbor who got into a fight with Davis over the gravesite - Davis said he punched the man - isn't comfortable with limiting what a homeowner can do with his property.

Yes, this neighbor is so uncomfortable with telling a homeowner what he can and cannot do on his property that he felt the need to get into a fistfight over it. Riiiight.


We're talking about the south here. Drunken, uneducated, churchies will usually end up in a fist fight over anything more advanced than saying hello.
 
2012-08-19 04:16:16 PM  
Why, because everything has to go through the State, of course.
 
2012-08-19 04:17:26 PM  

FirstNationalBastard: [profile.ak.fbcdn.net image 200x272]


done in the Boobies.
 
2012-08-19 04:18:23 PM  

heinrich66: Why, because everything has to go through the State, of course.


..and we've always been at war with Eastasia...
 
2012-08-19 04:19:45 PM  

The My Little Pony Killer: Even a neighbor who got into a fight with Davis over the gravesite - Davis said he punched the man - isn't comfortable with limiting what a homeowner can do with his property.

Yes, this neighbor is so uncomfortable with telling a homeowner what he can and cannot do on his property that he felt the need to get into a fistfight over it. Riiiight.


going and yelling at someone, even to the point of inciting a physical altercation, is not the same as calling for the state to come and stomp on them.
 
2012-08-19 04:21:24 PM  

LemSkroob: FirstNationalBastard: [profile.ak.fbcdn.net image 200x272]

done in the Boobies.


Definitely one of my favorite places to do it.
 
2012-08-19 04:21:25 PM  

theorellior: If I was one of his neighbors I'd be a little worried about nasty decomposition fluids ending up in my well water.

There is a reason society regulates burials.


Sanitation people apparently said that's a non-issue. Besides, three years on, you're probably okay in any case.

I find it a little odd that I can bury any number of dead animals wherever I want on my property, but suddenly a human corpse is a health risk. I wouldn't think the decomposer bacteria in a dead human would be that much more dangerous than those in a dead pig, for example.
 
2012-08-19 04:21:47 PM  

brerrabbit: nekom: How do you just go ahead and bury someone wherever? How do you even get the body from the coroner/funeral home if you aren't a proper cemetery?

It's not a requirement in many states. As long as a death certificate is made out, the Coroner has no choice but to release the body to the next of kin.

Yes, I have legally buried friends and family buried on the property. Some folks have issues with 5000$ funerals.


We drove my grandfathers body from Colorado to Montana and buried it at his former ranch at the family plot. The body has to be prepared by the mortician to be transported but other than that they have no choice but to release the body. There are some permits/paperwork to transport the body accross state lines. It was a couple grand to pay somebody to move it and would have taken a couple weeks for the permits and paperwork so my uncle just put the coffin in his truck bed and threw a tarp over it. His logic was the ticket was probably the same cost as the permits and we wouldnt have to wait.
 
2012-08-19 04:22:17 PM  
You know, there would have been an easy middle ground in burying her in the backyard, instead of the front yard facing a major road..

//came to defend him if he lived on a farm, but that's not exactly the case here. He does have a point on family plots on farms, it just doesn't translate as much in this case.
 
2012-08-19 04:23:12 PM  

theorellior: If I was one of his neighbors I'd be a little worried about nasty decomposition fluids ending up in my well water.

There is a reason society regulates burials.


FTA: "the county health department signed off on the residential burial, saying it wouldn't cause any sanitation problems."
 
2012-08-19 04:24:51 PM  
All of the anti-HOA idiots should take note of this. If you don't have an HOA, people will start burying dead bodies all over the neighborhood.

/this is how HOA board members actually think
//I didn't believe it until I joined my board
///Regularly get emails that say things like, "If we let them *insert minor thing like keep the trash cans out past 5PM because the homeowner works late*, this place is going to turn into a trailer park"
 
2012-08-19 04:25:57 PM  
"If nothing else, Edmiston said, the appeals court might decide what constitutes a "family burial plot" in Alabama, and what's a cemetery."

That would be an epic opinion to write, or read. Kinda like deciding whether something's a tax or a penalty.
 
2012-08-19 04:26:18 PM  
He needed a bike rack so he buried her face down and shallow
 
2012-08-19 04:26:32 PM  

Chinchillazilla: Sanitation people apparently said that's a non-issue. Besides, three years on, you're probably okay in any case.


Well, alrighty then. I guess the main problem here is what if the next homeowner doesn't want a gravesite on his property, but putting a lien on the property for reburial would take care of that.
 
2012-08-19 04:27:32 PM  
Who cares? She's worm food
 
2012-08-19 04:27:46 PM  

BarkingUnicorn: FTA: "the county health department signed off on the residential burial, saying it wouldn't cause any sanitation problems."


There's an article to read? Whoa, when did this happen? Is this a new feature on Fark?
 
2012-08-19 04:29:47 PM  
well at least he still isn't sleeping with her.
 
2012-08-19 04:29:54 PM  

RogermcAllen: All of the anti-HOA idiots should take note of this. If you don't have an HOA, people will start burying dead bodies all over the neighborhood.

/this is how HOA board members actually think
//I didn't believe it until I joined my board
///Regularly get emails that say things like, "If we let them *insert minor thing like keep the trash cans out past 5PM because the homeowner works late*, this place is going to turn into a trailer park"


Lol, my neighborhood has an HOA in name only. All they really do is make sure common areas get mowed. The only rule they've ever enforced that I know of was when a neighbor turned his yard into an actual trailer park. There were like 25 people living in the yard.

My point is, spontaneous trailer parks are easy enough to prevent even if you let people leave their trash cans wherever they want.
 
2012-08-19 04:31:06 PM  

theorellior: If I was one of his neighbors I'd be a little worried about nasty decomposition fluids ending up in my well water.

There is a reason society regulates burials.



honey, have you noticed the well water has a certain stench to it? lol
 
2012-08-19 04:31:41 PM  
I wouldn't have put it past my mother-in-law who lives in Northeast Alabama to do that. She already plans on dying while sitting on her front porch.

But they already have a family cemetery plot.
 
2012-08-19 04:32:50 PM  
Kinda kills the resale value of the home.
 
2012-08-19 04:33:36 PM  

ms_lara_croft: Good thing he didn't just want to wall her up in the house. Then he'd need a building permit.


Good thing, indeed. We all know how that would end.
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2012-08-19 04:34:23 PM  

sexy-fetus: Kinda kills the resale value of the home.


Do you have to disclose a buried body?
 
2012-08-19 04:34:36 PM  

sexy-fetus: Kinda kills the resale value of the home.


Does it really? I've always kind of figured that for every person who would be upset about this kind of thing, there's someone else who'd be all "HONEY! LOOK! A GEN-YOU-WINE HAUNTED HOUSE!"
 
2012-08-19 04:34:51 PM  
Fertilizer: It comes in many forms.
 
2012-08-19 04:35:36 PM  

brerrabbit: Some folks have issues with 5000$ funerals.


Some folks have problems with inexpensive burials, usually the folks who do 5000$ burials.
 
2012-08-19 04:37:29 PM  
He should have just cremated the body, and then buried the remains on his property without the giant headstone. No one would have been the wiser.
 
2012-08-19 04:37:55 PM  
Came here for pictures of "Alabama Man"

arcantia.net

/Disappointed.
 
2012-08-19 04:41:06 PM  
When my wife dies, I'll probably just toss her on top of the pile of dead hookers in my crawl space.
 
2012-08-19 04:42:59 PM  

mod3072: When my wife dies, I'll probably just toss her on top of the pile of dead hookers in my crawl space.


I like a man with style.
 
2012-08-19 04:43:51 PM  

ph0rk: /Disappointed.


You didn't see the post at the very beginning of the thread, did you.
 
2012-08-19 04:44:05 PM  
"Remember, Mrs. Farmer. Whenever you buy a house, whatever's in the ground belongs to you - whether it's gold or oil... or Claude Musselman."
 
2012-08-19 04:45:02 PM  

brerrabbit: Yes, I have legally buried friends and family buried on the property. Some folks have issues with 5000$ funerals.


Your grandma looks suspiciously like a large Italian man with bullet holes.
 
2012-08-19 04:45:29 PM  

mod3072: When my wife dies, I'll probably just toss her on top of the pile of dead hookers in my crawl space.


Hope you use a lot of lime.
 
2012-08-19 04:45:34 PM  

Chinchillazilla: I find it a little odd that I can bury any number of dead animals wherever I want on my property, but suddenly a human corpse is a health risk. I wouldn't think the decomposer bacteria in a dead human would be that much more dangerous than those in a dead pig, for example.


Humans in a funeral go through an embalming process first. The embalming fluids can seep into local groundwater. If you're going to try for a 'natural' burial, tell the mortician ahead of time.
 
2012-08-19 04:46:43 PM  
Have her cremated. Scatter the ashes. Done.
 
2012-08-19 04:46:57 PM  

Marcus Aurelius: It's perfectly legal here in PA. The only rule we have is that if the corpse is propped up in the living room, it has to be on dry ice.

/seriously


Frankly, I'm surprised that there's anywhere in this country that you can't bury someone on your own property perfectly legally.

I know you can always get a body released to you, which is something funeral directors don't want people to know.
 
2012-08-19 04:48:19 PM  
Dead serious
 
2012-08-19 04:49:01 PM  
No wonder I want to move from Birmingham to Cupertino.
 
2012-08-19 04:50:26 PM  

Sim Tree: Humans in a funeral go through an embalming process first.


They don't have to; you can just keep the body on ice, as we did in the old days.

/embalming didn't become a thing until the Civil War, when bodies needed to be preserved to be shipped home from the battlefield.
//It's an environmental nightmare, even in cemeteries, and a practice we need to give or or at least reform.
 
2012-08-19 04:57:08 PM  

theorellior: If I was one of his neighbors I'd be a little worried about nasty decomposition fluids ending up in my well water.

There is a reason society regulates burials.


You are aware that a body is organic... Right? That it becomes worm food?
Nothing is going to seep into any water supply further than about 6 feet away from the body.

Sort of like all the other insects, bugs, birds, animals that decompose in the soil.

What we have here is a fear of a zombie uprising. Nothing more.
 
2012-08-19 04:59:07 PM  

theorellior: Chinchillazilla: Sanitation people apparently said that's a non-issue. Besides, three years on, you're probably okay in any case.

Well, alrighty then. I guess the main problem here is what if the next homeowner doesn't want a gravesite on his property, but putting a lien on the property for reburial would take care of that.


Government needn't be involved. Seller can negotiate with buyer for whatever.
 
2012-08-19 05:03:44 PM  
I've buried many people in my garden, so I don't see the problem here.


/Unless he has a dog. I had to kill it to stop it digging out the corpses.
 
2012-08-19 05:11:03 PM  
"We're not in the 1800s any longer," said city attorney Parker Edmiston.

Yep, you've made it all the way up to about 1950.
 
2012-08-19 05:11:05 PM  
said George W. Westmoreland, 79, who served three tours of duty in Vietnam. "I laid my life on the line so he would have the right to do this. This is what freedom is about."


Only somebody that has seen zero action would make a statement like that. He was probably in the Navy cruising around the Gulf of Tonkin.
 
2012-08-19 05:13:32 PM  
media.avclub.com

"Yea. Now there's three things we can do
with your mum. We can bury her, burn her, or dump her..."
 
2012-08-19 05:14:24 PM  
No clue why anyone has a problem with this. If he buries her to depth, she isn't going to bother anyone...ever.
 
2012-08-19 05:14:35 PM  

ph0rk: Came here for pictures of "Alabama Man"

[arcantia.net image 480x360]

/Disappointed.


And blind.
 
2012-08-19 05:14:58 PM  

ph0rk: Came here for pictures of "Alabama Man"

[arcantia.net image 480x360]

/Disappointed.


You might want to check again.
 
2012-08-19 05:19:16 PM  
In the meantime, Davis has protested by running for City Council. A campaign sign hangs near a bigger sign in his yard that says: "Let Patsy Rest in Peace."

img513.imageshack.us

"Message for you, Sir!"
 
2012-08-19 05:29:45 PM  
Done in one! LOL
 
2012-08-19 05:35:11 PM  

Sim Tree: Chinchillazilla: I find it a little odd that I can bury any number of dead animals wherever I want on my property, but suddenly a human corpse is a health risk. I wouldn't think the decomposer bacteria in a dead human would be that much more dangerous than those in a dead pig, for example.

Humans in a funeral go through an embalming process first. The embalming fluids can seep into local groundwater. If you're going to try for a 'natural' burial, tell the mortician ahead of time.


How often do people have a funeral home prep a body that isn't going to be buried by said funeral home? If you're getting the body straight from the coroner, it will not have been embalmed.
 
2012-08-19 05:36:48 PM  

kertus: theorellior: If I was one of his neighbors I'd be a little worried about nasty decomposition fluids ending up in my well water.

There is a reason society regulates burials.

You are aware that a body is organic... Right? That it becomes worm food?
Nothing is going to seep into any water supply further than about 6 feet away from the body.

Sort of like all the other insects, bugs, birds, animals that decompose in the soil.

What we have here is a fear of a zombie uprising. Nothing more.


This. In our christian nation, only one zombie was ever allowed.
/sort of kidding
//still more of a propriety issue and not a sanitation one
 
2012-08-19 05:40:38 PM  
Is there really a law prohibiting display of the corpse?
Maybe sitting in her chair on the porch,,,
 
2012-08-19 05:45:16 PM  
I don't have a problem with it.

Knock yourself out, dude...
 
2012-08-19 05:46:42 PM  

eraser8: At least she didn't want to be "stuffed and put on the couch as a constant reminder of [their] marital vows."


I've posted it before, but I've always wanted to be cased in lucite in a "Help! Let me out!" pose and made into a coffee table.

Is there a good fundraising site to make this happen?
 
2012-08-19 05:47:57 PM  
I get the whole thing about this is what she wanted; to be buried in the yard, by the porch etc. I also understand where the city is coming from too. This is where the guy should have compromised and buried her in a fenced-off plot somewhere in the backyard.

/ if he were living on large plot, this wouldn't even be an issue - apparently that's not the case here.
 
2012-08-19 05:50:44 PM  

00st3bbins: ph0rk: Came here for pictures of "Alabama Man"

[arcantia.net image 480x360]

/Disappointed.

You might want to check again.


Also came for this. Doubly satisfied.
 
2012-08-19 05:51:55 PM  

brerrabbit: nekom: How do you just go ahead and bury someone wherever? How do you even get the body from the coroner/funeral home if you aren't a proper cemetery?

It's not a requirement in many states. As long as a death certificate is made out, the Coroner has no choice but to release the body to the next of kin.

Yes, I have legally buried friends and family buried on the property. Some folks have issues with 5000$ funerals.


Count me among them. And there're 7 billion of us. We're going to have to stop treating land where corpses have been as sacrosanct. Might as well start now.
 
2012-08-19 05:53:48 PM  

davidphogan: I've posted it before, but I've always wanted to be cased in lucite in a "Help! Let me out!" pose and made into a coffee table.

Is there a good fundraising site to make this happen?


Best. Kickstarter idea. Yet.
 
2012-08-19 05:54:36 PM  

FloydA: The My Little Pony Killer: Even a neighbor who got into a fight with Davis over the gravesite - Davis said he punched the man - isn't comfortable with limiting what a homeowner can do with his property.

Yes, this neighbor is so uncomfortable with telling a homeowner what he can and cannot do on his property that he felt the need to get into a fistfight over it. Riiiight.

It's Alabama. That's just being neighborly.


His neighbors' buddies didn't die face down in the muck so he could bury his wife in the yard.

/there are rules
 
2012-08-19 05:54:38 PM  

basemetal: Right next to where the bird dog is married?


65.98.18.218

tell me about your mother

//the city should fark off and die. As long as she's in a casket, tough shiat.
 
2012-08-19 05:59:58 PM  
If you installed a giant toilet*, you could just flush her like a goldfish.
//*Giant Tidy Bowl man, not included
 
2012-08-19 06:00:39 PM  

mjjt: He needed a bike rack so he buried her face down and shallow


img600.imageshack.us

"Write your own material, ya wanker"
 
2012-08-19 06:03:38 PM  

cretinbob: basemetal: Right next to where the bird dog is married?

[65.98.18.218 image 450x500]

tell me about your mother

//the city should fark off and die. As long as she's in a casket, tough shiat.


Agreed. City ==> FOAD.
 
2012-08-19 06:08:49 PM  

brerrabbit: nekom: How do you just go ahead and bury someone wherever? How do you even get the body from the coroner/funeral home if you aren't a proper cemetery?

It's not a requirement in many states. As long as a death certificate is made out, the Coroner has no choice but to release the body to the next of kin.

Yes, I have legally buried friends and family buried on the property. Some folks have issues with 5000$ funerals.

i184.photobucket.com

Sigh.....
 
2012-08-19 06:17:14 PM  
I want to be buried and have an apple tree planted over my remains.

I guess there's even a place that will do it to!
 
2012-08-19 06:18:25 PM  

kertus: theorellior: If I was one of his neighbors I'd be a little worried about nasty decomposition fluids ending up in my well water.

There is a reason society regulates burials.

You are aware that a body is organic... Right? That it becomes worm food?
Nothing is going to seep into any water supply further than about 6 feet away from the body.

Sort of like all the other insects, bugs, birds, animals that decompose in the soil.

What we have here is a fear of a zombie uprising. Nothing more.



Sorry buddy, but there's a reason why socieites all have rituals regarding burial. There's a reason why cemeteries were always far from the town. And in this case in particular, it appears she was embalmed. Now, to be honest, this one woman probably isn't going to affect anything. But if every house in that neighborhood was burying a loved one in the yard, I don't think you would want to drink the well water.
 
2012-08-19 06:18:54 PM  

theorellior: If I was one of his neighbors I'd be a little worried about nasty decomposition fluids ending up in my well water.

There is a reason society regulates burials.


If you live in St Petersburg, Florida you could have dead bodies in your city water.
 
2012-08-19 06:21:29 PM  
I wonder how he feels about Obama?
 
2012-08-19 06:22:39 PM  
I buried a neighbor in my yard,his sister and mother too. Want some fresh corn sheriff? It came in real good this year.
 
2012-08-19 06:24:46 PM  

Nick Nostril: mjjt: He needed a bike rack so he buried her face down and shallow

[img600.imageshack.us image 228x300]

"Write your own material, ya wanker"


Hey, he nicked it himself
 
2012-08-19 06:29:41 PM  
I think it's kind of sweet, as long as he pisses off the other end of the porch.
 
2012-08-19 06:47:25 PM  
homeindesigns.com
 
2012-08-19 07:07:33 PM  
I am siding with the old guy on this one.


Even if they moved the body he could build a "memorial" to his wife in the exact same spot, it could have a stone commemorating her and a flower bed over top, the town would have no issues with it and there would be nothing they could do about it. Suddenly you put a body underneath but maintain the exact same appearance there is a problem.


The town is stupid, that this is even in the news is stupid, and you're stupid.
 
2012-08-19 07:12:21 PM  
Can he keep her in the compost bin then?
 
2012-08-19 07:14:38 PM  
Spontaneous trailer park is a great band name.
 
2012-08-19 07:21:47 PM  
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Even a neighbor who got into a fight with Davis over the gravesite - Davis said he punched the man - isn't comfortable with limiting what a homeowner can do with his property.

"I don't think it's right, but it's not my place to tell him he can't do it," said George W. Westmoreland, 79, who served three tours of duty in Vietnam. "I laid my life on the line so he would have the right to do this. This is what freedom is about."
 
2012-08-19 07:47:17 PM  
ANNOYING NEIGHBORS: "You'll bring our property values down!"

HIM: "You do realize we all live in rural Alabama, right?"
 
2012-08-19 09:13:01 PM  
He should have put her on a motorcycle...

cache.jalopnik.com
 
2012-08-19 09:18:30 PM  

Brick-House: [homeindesigns.com image 611x405]


Its almost that time of year.
I have so much to get done before then.
 
2012-08-19 09:48:56 PM  
I didnt catch from the article what the actual problem with it was; beyond the city saying "because I said so".

Personally I would like to be ditched in the woods somewhere to slowly decompose when I die.
 
2012-08-19 09:49:53 PM  

elguerodiablo: The My Little Pony Killer: Even a neighbor who got into a fight with Davis over the gravesite - Davis said he punched the man - isn't comfortable with limiting what a homeowner can do with his property.

Yes, this neighbor is so uncomfortable with telling a homeowner what he can and cannot do on his property that he felt the need to get into a fistfight over it.

Riiiight.

We're talking about the south here. Drunken, uneducated, churchies will usually end up in a fist fight over anything more advanced than saying hello.


Wow, you are an ignorant, narrow minded ass. You've probably never been to the south or known someone from there yet you insult an entire portion of the U.S.

I grew up in Alabama. It has a highly educated workforce. Many work in The science and technology fields. Many also have the wisdom to believe in God instead being bigoted athiests like yourself. You will find some of the nicest, Most hard working and generous people you will ever meet. You should get out more. The world is larger than your little group of pretend friends on Twitter, Fark and Facebook. Your false sense of superiority makes you sound like an angsty teen trying to impress his friends.
 
2012-08-19 09:52:02 PM  

Frederick: I didnt catch from the article what the actual problem with it was; beyond the city saying "because I said so".


It will be a morbid curiousity, negatively impacting both the community and its real estate value, much like the guy's log cabin shack already is.
 
2012-08-19 10:14:30 PM  

Fromageball: theorellior: If I was one of his neighbors I'd be a little worried about nasty decomposition fluids ending up in my well water.

There is a reason society regulates burials.

If you live in St Petersburg, Florida you could have dead bodies in your city water.


I'm hopefully a few years off carking it, but that's an interesting way of disposing of corpses. I used to think cremation would be the go but I'm not sure I want my last act on this world to be to add to my carbon footprint. I wonder how much energy is involved with this process?

When I was a biology major at university, I remember an advertisement in a lab equipment magazine - a sonicator boasted it could 'turn a whole mouse into a soup-like homogenate in 3 minutes'.
 
2012-08-19 10:35:58 PM  

Bashar and Asma's Infinite Playlist: Frederick: I didnt catch from the article what the actual problem with it was; beyond the city saying "because I said so".

It will be a morbid curiousity, negatively impacting both the community and its real estate value, much like the guy's log cabin shack already is.


Hmm. Alright -but then I have to ask; would it be ok to bury in the back yard and not disclose it to the community?

Kinda rhetorical -I dont expect you to know that.
 
2012-08-19 10:48:43 PM  

notatrollorami: brerrabbit: nekom: How do you just go ahead and bury someone wherever? How do you even get the body from the coroner/funeral home if you aren't a proper cemetery?

It's not a requirement in many states. As long as a death certificate is made out, the Coroner has no choice but to release the body to the next of kin.

Yes, I have legally buried friends and family buried on the property. Some folks have issues with 5000$ funerals.

Count me among them. And there're 7 billion of us. We're going to have to stop treating land where corpses have been as sacrosanct. Might as well start now.


Start cremating everyone or bury them heads up! Cemeteries are such a waste of space but I do enjoy strolling through them. Mount Pleasant in Toronto is interesting with lovely paths.
 
2012-08-19 10:55:24 PM  
Is it just me, or is the more immediate issue being missed by just about everyone, including the ersatz reporter who wrote this piece?

"Davis is adamant that he won't move the body, regardless of what any court says.

"If they get it done it'll be after I'm gone," said Davis. "So if they order her to be moved, it's a death sentence to me. I'll meet Mama sooner than I planned on it."
"

Basically, this guy is threatening to kill himself if things don't go his way. I'm not opining as to whether or not this is a reasonable and proportionate response - just noting that it is a hell of a thing to overlook.
 
2012-08-19 11:36:15 PM  
This technically is a img1.fark.net.

I submitted this same story over three years ago with a funnier headline:

Man wants to bury his dead wife on family property. Neighbors okay with it. Health department okay with it. Town council: "Not yours"
 
2012-08-19 11:41:31 PM  

elguerodiablo: brerrabbit: nekom: How do you just go ahead and bury someone wherever? How do you even get the body from the coroner/funeral home if you aren't a proper cemetery?

It's not a requirement in many states. As long as a death certificate is made out, the Coroner has no choice but to release the body to the next of kin.

Yes, I have legally buried friends and family buried on the property. Some folks have issues with 5000$ funerals.

We drove my grandfathers body from Colorado to Montana and buried it at his former ranch at the family plot. The body has to be prepared by the mortician to be transported but other than that they have no choice but to release the body. There are some permits/paperwork to transport the body accross state lines. It was a couple grand to pay somebody to move it and would have taken a couple weeks for the permits and paperwork so my uncle just put the coffin in his truck bed and threw a tarp over it. His logic was the ticket was probably the same cost as the permits and we wouldnt have to wait.


First thing that came to mind:
Well, since the new and improved Fark image link thingie doesn't work for shiat, I'll just say it reminded me of Aunt Edna in Vacation.
Sometimes, change for the sake of change isn't really the right way to go.
 
2012-08-19 11:44:15 PM  

AdrianLamo: Is it just me, or is the more immediate issue being missed by just about everyone, including the ersatz reporter who wrote this piece?

"Davis is adamant that he won't move the body, regardless of what any court says.

"If they get it done it'll be after I'm gone," said Davis. "So if they order her to be moved, it's a death sentence to me. I'll meet Mama sooner than I planned on it.""

Basically, this guy is threatening to kill himself if things don't go his way. I'm not opining as to whether or not this is a reasonable and proportionate response - just noting that it is a hell of a thing to overlook.


I expected somebody to mention that but forgot that nobody can be bothered to RTFA here. TFA was full of Southern nuance and delight.
 
2012-08-19 11:54:50 PM  

Frederick: Hmm. Alright -but then I have to ask; would it be ok to bury in the back yard and not disclose it to the community?

Kinda rhetorical -I dont expect you to know that.


I was curious, so I looked up his address on Google Maps. There's not much backyard, as he's on a corner. His Frontierland homestead stands out like a sore thumb. My hunch is that the grave is just the final straw for his neighbors who've had enough of this guy. His cars are parked on his lawn, as is his boat. Also while Google Maps is a little out of date, there appears to be an outhouse about ten feet from the tombstone. That might have something to do with it.
 
2012-08-20 12:06:58 AM  

Bashar and Asma's Infinite Playlist: Frederick: Hmm. Alright -but then I have to ask; would it be ok to bury in the back yard and not disclose it to the community?

Kinda rhetorical -I dont expect you to know that.

I was curious, so I looked up his address on Google Maps. There's not much backyard, as he's on a corner. His Frontierland homestead stands out like a sore thumb. My hunch is that the grave is just the final straw for his neighbors who've had enough of this guy. His cars are parked on his lawn, as is his boat. Also while Google Maps is a little out of date, there appears to be an outhouse about ten feet from the tombstone. That might have something to do with it.


If only there was some way to find out what the neighbors were like before moving in next door.
 
2012-08-20 12:14:27 AM  

Bashar and Asma's Infinite Playlist: Frederick: Hmm. Alright -but then I have to ask; would it be ok to bury in the back yard and not disclose it to the community?

Kinda rhetorical -I dont expect you to know that.

I was curious, so I looked up his address on Google Maps. There's not much backyard, as he's on a corner. His Frontierland homestead stands out like a sore thumb. My hunch is that the grave is just the final straw for his neighbors who've had enough of this guy. His cars are parked on his lawn, as is his boat. Also while Google Maps is a little out of date, there appears to be an outhouse about ten feet from the tombstone. That might have something to do with it.


Thanks for the info.

Thats too bad. I'd like to support the guy in principal; but it sounds like he's something of a trouble maker / burden on the community. Your hunch sounds spot on.

\btw thats the second time in as many days you've helped me. If you're not careful you'll get a reputation.
 
2012-08-20 12:24:04 AM  

Farty McPooPants: elguerodiablo: brerrabbit: nekom: How do you just go ahead and bury someone wherever? How do you even get the body from the coroner/funeral home if you aren't a proper cemetery?

It's not a requirement in many states. As long as a death certificate is made out, the Coroner has no choice but to release the body to the next of kin.

Yes, I have legally buried friends and family buried on the property. Some folks have issues with 5000$ funerals.

We drove my grandfathers body from Colorado to Montana and buried it at his former ranch at the family plot. The body has to be prepared by the mortician to be transported but other than that they have no choice but to release the body. There are some permits/paperwork to transport the body accross state lines. It was a couple grand to pay somebody to move it and would have taken a couple weeks for the permits and paperwork so my uncle just put the coffin in his truck bed and threw a tarp over it. His logic was the ticket was probably the same cost as the permits and we wouldnt have to wait.

First thing that came to mind:
Well, since the new and improved Fark image link thingie doesn't work for shiat, I'll just say it reminded me of Aunt Edna in Vacation.
Sometimes, change for the sake of change isn't really the right way to go.



You might enjoy LITTLE MISS SUNSHINE...
 
2012-08-20 12:55:09 AM  
Oh, OK, it's Alabama, I thought it was going to be North Carolina. THAT would be something different.
 
2012-08-20 12:58:02 AM  

downpaymentblues: For now, Davis visits his wife's grave each time he walks out the front door. He puts fresh artificial flowers on it regularly

What a romantic.


yeah, baby
 
2012-08-20 01:17:26 AM  
When I snuff it I wanted a taxidermist or leatherworker or someone make a bracelet out of my tattooed anus.

But who to leave it too?

*deepthoughts*
 
2012-08-20 01:18:47 AM  

Maechyll: But who to leave it too?


ftfm

sleepeeeeee...
 
2012-08-20 03:51:31 AM  
To be fair, he used to love her.
 
2012-08-20 08:05:42 AM  
The government has absolutely no respect for private property rights anymore. People don't seem to realize that it is the basis for pretty much all of our other freedoms and civil rights.
 
2012-08-20 08:54:58 AM  

elguerodiablo: The My Little Pony Killer: Even a neighbor who got into a fight with Davis over the gravesite - Davis said he punched the man - isn't comfortable with limiting what a homeowner can do with his property.

Yes, this neighbor is so uncomfortable with telling a homeowner what he can and cannot do on his property that he felt the need to get into a fistfight over it. Riiiight.

We're talking about the south here. Drunken, uneducated, churchies will usually end up in a fist fight over anything more advanced than saying hello.


Speaking of uneducated, South is capitalized
 
2012-08-20 09:41:37 AM  

Sweaty Dynamite: "Remember, Mrs. Farmer. Whenever you buy a house, whatever's in the ground belongs to you - whether it's gold or oil... or Claude Musselman."


Not in Minnesota. The state claims all mineral rights. I never have understood that.

It's why I don't publicly extract from my oil-filled goldiamond mine.
 
2012-08-20 09:51:01 AM  

halB: But if every house in that neighborhood was burying a loved one in the yard, I don't think you would want to drink the well water.


Ummm . . . as opposed to burying every loved one in the cemetery? Concentrating them in one spot keeps your well water much cleaner? Really? (The article doesn't say whether the body was encased in a vault.)

Besides, how deep is your well, anyway? Mine's 375 feet, and it's not unusual. I haven't heard of any in the area under 200 feet deep. Just how deep do you think things are going to seep, anyway?

I'd be a lot more worried about lawn herbicides getting into the well water. That stuff gets dumped on year after year.
 
2012-08-20 10:59:30 AM  

honk: halB: But if every house in that neighborhood was burying a loved one in the yard, I don't think you would want to drink the well water.

Ummm . . . as opposed to burying every loved one in the cemetery? Concentrating them in one spot keeps your well water much cleaner? Really? (The article doesn't say whether the body was encased in a vault.)

Besides, how deep is your well, anyway? Mine's 375 feet, and it's not unusual. I haven't heard of any in the area under 200 feet deep. Just how deep do you think things are going to seep, anyway?

I'd be a lot more worried about lawn herbicides getting into the well water. That stuff gets dumped on year after year.


Page 2 of the article states, he had a concrete vault installed and the body was also placed inside a metal coffin.
 
2012-08-20 11:34:06 AM  

Molavian: Christ, just throw a lien on the house to dispose of the wife once once the codger dies off and call it a day.


Not even that - put a lien to remove the headstone, and she'll be completely forgotten within 10 years; in fact, by then, they probably wouldn't even believe the headstone isn't fake. The neighbors will likewise die off or move away, their grandkids won't believe the stories of the house with a dead lady buried in it, the rest of the population's attention span will be extinguished long before then.

halB: Sorry buddy, but there's a reason why socieites all have rituals regarding burial. There's a reason why cemeteries were always far from the town. And in this case in particular, it appears she was embalmed. Now, to be honest, this one woman probably isn't going to affect anything. But if every house in that neighborhood was burying a loved one in the yard, I don't think you would want to drink the well water.


You might want to look at some of the nasty things put on top of or a few feet into the ground on virtually every plot. Asphalt roads in particular are pretty nasty.

AdrianLamo: Basically, this guy is threatening to kill himself if things don't go his way. I'm not opining as to whether or not this is a reasonable and proportionate response - just noting that it is a hell of a thing to overlook.


I got more of an "I'm going to be sitting on my porch with my shotgun and woe to anyone trying to dig her up" vibe from the line. He knows exactly how that would end.
 
2012-08-20 01:15:16 PM  
Forgive me, but I just love the butthurt.

1) dig up a couple of inches of the grave.
2) build dummy of Gmaw
3) seat dummy on chair on porch
4) popcorn and a cool one
 
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