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(LA Times)   Ford unveils Shelby Cobra with a monster 850-horsepower engine. Difficulty: There's only one available   (latimes.com) divider line 21
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2012-08-19 12:12:30 PM
2 votes:
If you want a Shelby go with this:
www.musclecarrestorations.com
2012-08-20 01:44:28 PM
1 votes:
coolmaterial.com

If I had money and the knowhow...
2012-08-19 05:34:12 PM
1 votes:

consider this: TuteTibiImperes: The Focus ST with the 252 hp turbo 4 is going to be an absolute blast.

I saw one on the road the other day. Bad ass little car.


Now I've got an earworm. Might as well share it.

Hey, little Cobra
Don't you know
You're gonna shut'em down
2012-08-19 04:32:04 PM
1 votes:

IvanTheSilent: Why the hell can't we get the Mondeo over here? And Ford's "the Fusion is close enough" answer is unacceptable.


For 2013 and beyond, the Fusion is the Mondeo, minus the hatchback and wagon versions, which we won't get here in the US (sadly).

/One Ford
//You can pry my '07 GT500 from my cold, dead hands
2012-08-19 04:12:43 PM
1 votes:

mattg: Odoriferous Queef: mattg: Clarkson actually likes Fords, dummy

I loved all the butt-smooching he did when he was on the waiting list fo a new GT 40.

Most of that was tongue-in-cheek

Also, the love for the Focus, Mondeo, and new Fiesta is universal by the Top Gear staff.


Why the hell can't we get the Mondeo over here? And Ford's "the Fusion is close enough" answer is unacceptable.
2012-08-19 04:12:02 PM
1 votes:

mattg: Clarkson actually likes Fords, dummy


Yea. They loved the Mondeo, the Focus... which were designed in whole or in part in Europe. He had a GT, but the running gag the whole time it was featured was Clarkson running out of gas.

He's routinely critical of American cars with poor cornering performance, or low power for their displacement (what? a turbo on a non-performance car? are you mad!?!). But that has everything to do with being shiat cars, and nothing to do with being Fords. He hated the Vauxhall Vectra too.

Link
2012-08-19 03:46:38 PM
1 votes:

Satanic_Hamster: Ford? That's rubbish. Probably half plastic and the wheels will fall off if you go around a corner.

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Clarkson actually likes Fords, dummy
2012-08-19 03:45:53 PM
1 votes:

sethstorm: TuteTibiImperes:
The new turbo 4s are pretty slick. Drive an Escape with the V6 back to back with a new one with the 2 liter turbo and the new one feels noticeably quicker and more responsive.

Then refit the 6 with some sort of 'charger ontop of the 6 - or a beefier V6. The worst choice is to go with the hippie-friendly & European-inspired I-4 with a turbo.


The Focus ST with the 252 hp turbo 4 is going to be an absolute blast.

The Focus is part of why allowing European cars to substitute for the proper American design is a bad idea. Have your rallycart, but don't make it such that getting anything else is like pulling out teeth. Then again, one might want to refit the Focus with a proper & turboless 6 as a US-exclusive version; a turboless version of the V6 that the Mustang has would do nicely. What you could do with an I-4, such a V6-equipped Focus would offend the hippies and provide for plenty of blast-off opportunity.

Thankfully Chrysler and GM have largely not followed Ford's insanity...


Let me know when the Dart or the Cruze get a V6 option. Aside from the issues with fuel economy and the extra weight over the front axle that would create some handling issues, I'm not even sure a V6 would fit into any of those engine bays.
2012-08-19 03:42:46 PM
1 votes:
Doesn't the Roush already have independent rear suspension? It's criminal that's not standard already.
2012-08-19 02:50:49 PM
1 votes:

TuteTibiImperes: rohar:

Thanks for confirming my suspicion.

That there is a range at low RPM in which the energy required to drive the supercharger exceeds the additional power supplied by the increased air displacement? You're welcome.


Sure, under 1500 rpm, that supercharger is almost as worthless as your opinion. Once you cross that line, hold on. Oh, and if you're trying to take down another car, you won't be under 1500 rpm.

As much as it pains me to say it, Ford is committed to making the Mustang awesome. The project manager on this version is a close contact. He's got his head in the right place. The car has way more power than is necessary, but they didn't neglect suspension and braking. It's a well rounded car and just flat out deserves respect.
2012-08-19 02:22:17 PM
1 votes:
I wish they hadn't changed the latest Mustang from the concept car. The concept car was awesome but then they made minor tweaks to "mainstream" it and turned it into shiat, especially the back half of the car.

The concept was chopped and sloped slightly down in the rear, giving it a sophisticated Euro look. The production car is tall, fat, and the rear sticks up in the air like it's begging to be ass raped.
2012-08-19 01:54:06 PM
1 votes:

3StratMan: Notabunny: Nice tribute, Ford. Proper color choice and badging, too. Good work. That grumpy old bastard would approve, and then ask, "Why not 1,000 horsepower?".

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fta "When we had Carroll in Vegas to drive the 800-horse version of the Super Snake," explains Shelby's Gary Patterson, "we all expected to get a bunch of accolades and 'attaboys' after he finished driving the car. But even before the car had stopped rolling, Carroll was asking us when we'd have a 1000-horse Mustang."

HA! That crusty old fart was authentic to the end. Good for him!
2012-08-19 01:09:39 PM
1 votes:

The Irresponsible Captain: Top Gear may not be the best by-the-book auto show, but the Roush beat the Shelby a few years back with their professional driver. The Shelby had more horsepower, but was slower on the test track. Can you explain how Shelby has improved their suspension in the last few years to solve these problems?


If you're talking about the British version, they tested an '05 or '07 as I recall. The suspension is significantly improved since then. The '13 has electronically adjustable dampers and steering, as well as about a dozen racing modes to choose from. Roush's are custom built, so there's no telling what they will do to a '13 to improve it, but for the money they can always do so.

The '13 Boss 302 Laguna Seca edition handles really well from what I hear.
2012-08-19 12:22:32 PM
1 votes:

Honest Bender: Those are some butt ugly cars.


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2012-08-19 11:58:47 AM
1 votes:
fark that.

/MOPAR!
2012-08-19 11:44:42 AM
1 votes:
Nice tribute, Ford. Proper color choice and badging, too. Good work. That grumpy old bastard would approve, and then ask, "Why not 1,000 horsepower?".
2012-08-19 11:40:40 AM
1 votes:
/Yes, Americans love putting dragster engines on baby-carriage suspensions.
//Go, Merikuns!
2012-08-19 11:38:27 AM
1 votes:
But does it have Rack and Peanut steering?
2012-08-19 11:37:46 AM
1 votes:
I would so crash that within an hour of leaving the dealership.
2012-08-19 09:48:22 AM
1 votes:

Marcus Aurelius: Good luck putting down all that power with their piece of crap suspension. If you stick to a straight line on a very smooth surface, you might be OK.

/first car was a 69 boss 302
//and a hunk of junk


Don't know much about their suspensions, do you?
2012-08-19 09:32:46 AM
1 votes:
Good luck putting down all that power with their piece of crap suspension. If you stick to a straight line on a very smooth surface, you might be OK.

/first car was a 69 boss 302
//and a hunk of junk
 
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