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(LA Times)   Ford unveils Shelby Cobra with a monster 850-horsepower engine. Difficulty: There's only one available   (latimes.com) divider line 150
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2012-08-19 03:42:46 PM
Doesn't the Roush already have independent rear suspension? It's criminal that's not standard already.
 
2012-08-19 03:44:10 PM
I bet that piece of shiat still has a live rear axle
 
2012-08-19 03:45:53 PM

sethstorm: TuteTibiImperes:
The new turbo 4s are pretty slick. Drive an Escape with the V6 back to back with a new one with the 2 liter turbo and the new one feels noticeably quicker and more responsive.

Then refit the 6 with some sort of 'charger ontop of the 6 - or a beefier V6. The worst choice is to go with the hippie-friendly & European-inspired I-4 with a turbo.


The Focus ST with the 252 hp turbo 4 is going to be an absolute blast.

The Focus is part of why allowing European cars to substitute for the proper American design is a bad idea. Have your rallycart, but don't make it such that getting anything else is like pulling out teeth. Then again, one might want to refit the Focus with a proper & turboless 6 as a US-exclusive version; a turboless version of the V6 that the Mustang has would do nicely. What you could do with an I-4, such a V6-equipped Focus would offend the hippies and provide for plenty of blast-off opportunity.

Thankfully Chrysler and GM have largely not followed Ford's insanity...


Let me know when the Dart or the Cruze get a V6 option. Aside from the issues with fuel economy and the extra weight over the front axle that would create some handling issues, I'm not even sure a V6 would fit into any of those engine bays.
 
2012-08-19 03:46:38 PM

Satanic_Hamster: Ford? That's rubbish. Probably half plastic and the wheels will fall off if you go around a corner.

[resources1.news.com.au image 650x366]


Clarkson actually likes Fords, dummy
 
2012-08-19 03:49:07 PM

Interceptor1: Odoriferous Queef: If you want a Shelby go with this:
[www.musclecarrestorations.com image 700x342]

I did. 600 hp, less than 2500 pounds.

[dev01.press.jhu.edu image 850x637]


Pretty. Love the carb setup. Very authentic even if it does cost some H.P. compared to more modern setups. Pin drive on that thing? I haven't seen you in the forums. Red or black body?
 
2012-08-19 03:52:31 PM

mattg: Clarkson actually likes Fords, dummy


I loved all the butt-smooching he did when he was on the waiting list fo a new GT 40.
 
2012-08-19 03:54:12 PM

Odoriferous Queef: mattg: Clarkson actually likes Fords, dummy

I loved all the butt-smooching he did when he was on the waiting list fo a new GT 40.


Most of that was tongue-in-cheek

Also, the love for the Focus, Mondeo, and new Fiesta is universal by the Top Gear staff.
 
2012-08-19 03:59:23 PM

mattg: Clarkson actually likes Fords, dummy


static.guim.co.uk
Like the Americans could make a car that I'd want.
 
2012-08-19 04:04:46 PM
Gimme a '66 mustang in either lake placid blue or gunmetal gray any day of the week
and I'm a happy, happy girl.

/ a '53 or '57 Chevy Bel Air would not be looked at askance either
 
2012-08-19 04:08:05 PM

mattg: Odoriferous Queef: mattg: Clarkson actually likes Fords, dummy

I loved all the butt-smooching he did when he was on the waiting list fo a new GT 40.

Most of that was tongue-in-cheek

Also, the love for the Focus, Mondeo, and new Fiesta is universal by the Top Gear staff.


Yes indeed. One thing i can't understand though, why didn't Ford pick up the Hammerhead Eagle i-Thrust? They missed a great opportunity.
 
2012-08-19 04:12:02 PM

mattg: Clarkson actually likes Fords, dummy


Yea. They loved the Mondeo, the Focus... which were designed in whole or in part in Europe. He had a GT, but the running gag the whole time it was featured was Clarkson running out of gas.

He's routinely critical of American cars with poor cornering performance, or low power for their displacement (what? a turbo on a non-performance car? are you mad!?!). But that has everything to do with being shiat cars, and nothing to do with being Fords. He hated the Vauxhall Vectra too.

Link
 
2012-08-19 04:12:43 PM

mattg: Odoriferous Queef: mattg: Clarkson actually likes Fords, dummy

I loved all the butt-smooching he did when he was on the waiting list fo a new GT 40.

Most of that was tongue-in-cheek

Also, the love for the Focus, Mondeo, and new Fiesta is universal by the Top Gear staff.


Why the hell can't we get the Mondeo over here? And Ford's "the Fusion is close enough" answer is unacceptable.
 
2012-08-19 04:13:37 PM

Odoriferous Queef: mattg: Odoriferous Queef: mattg: Clarkson actually likes Fords, dummy

I loved all the butt-smooching he did when he was on the waiting list fo a new GT 40.

Most of that was tongue-in-cheek

Also, the love for the Focus, Mondeo, and new Fiesta is universal by the Top Gear staff.

Yes indeed. One thing i can't understand though, why didn't Ford pick up the Hammerhead Eagle i-Thrust? They missed a great opportunity.


He was on the waiting list for a Ford GT. At least get the name right.
 
2012-08-19 04:32:04 PM

IvanTheSilent: Why the hell can't we get the Mondeo over here? And Ford's "the Fusion is close enough" answer is unacceptable.


For 2013 and beyond, the Fusion is the Mondeo, minus the hatchback and wagon versions, which we won't get here in the US (sadly).

/One Ford
//You can pry my '07 GT500 from my cold, dead hands
 
2012-08-19 05:08:21 PM

Arnprior Joe: He's routinely critical of American cars with poor cornering performance, or low power for their displacement (what? a turbo on a non-performance car? are you mad!?!). But that has everything to do with being shiat cars, and nothing to do with being Fords. He hated the Vauxhall Vectra too.


A turbocharger on a non-performance car is a half-arsed attempt substituting cylinder count and displacement for tons of hot air. That, and it doesn't help when said cars are pushed to levels not conducive for using non-premium fuels.

Consider that when you want to jump straight to a (turbo/super)charger.
 
2012-08-19 05:14:34 PM

PreMortem: elvisaintdead: PreMortem: I'd take a biatchin' camaro over a ford any day.

You could use some Mojo Nixon.

Was not aware of this but am now going to the bar and saturate it with this sound.

Thanks


My pleasure.
Elvis is everywhere, man! :D
 
2012-08-19 05:20:08 PM

Odoriferous Queef: Interceptor1: Odoriferous Queef: If you want a Shelby go with this:
[www.musclecarrestorations.com image 700x342]

I did. 600 hp, less than 2500 pounds.

[dev01.press.jhu.edu image 850x637]

Pretty. Love the carb setup. Very authentic even if it does cost some H.P. compared to more modern setups. Pin drive on that thing? I haven't seen you in the forums. Red or black body?


Pin drive, black body, Inglese Fuel Injection, IRS, fuel cell, etc. Not on forum. All aluminum 351W punched out to 427 cubic inches and dynoed by Roush.
 
2012-08-19 05:34:12 PM

consider this: TuteTibiImperes: The Focus ST with the 252 hp turbo 4 is going to be an absolute blast.

I saw one on the road the other day. Bad ass little car.


Now I've got an earworm. Might as well share it.

Hey, little Cobra
Don't you know
You're gonna shut'em down
 
2012-08-19 06:16:42 PM

rohar: TuteTibiImperes: rohar:

Thanks for confirming my suspicion.

That there is a range at low RPM in which the energy required to drive the supercharger exceeds the additional power supplied by the increased air displacement? You're welcome.

Sure, under 1500 rpm, that supercharger is almost as worthless as your opinion. Once you cross that line, hold on. Oh, and if you're trying to take down another car, you won't be under 1500 rpm.

As much as it pains me to say it, Ford is committed to making the Mustang awesome. The project manager on this version is a close contact. He's got his head in the right place. The car has way more power than is necessary, but they didn't neglect suspension and braking. It's a well rounded car and just flat out deserves respect.


Maybe but I had a 71 240z in high school. It had a better chassis set up than a 2012 mustang. Marketing trumps realitity, 850 hp on that chassis has got to be bad, although probably not as bad as I imagine it to be. When ford can catch up to a 40 year old datsun I will be a little more impressed. 240z was a real sports car though so maybe the comparison isn't really fair.
 
2012-08-19 06:17:41 PM

Interceptor1:

Pin drive, black body, Inglese Fuel Injection, IRS, fuel cell, etc. Not on forum. All aluminum 351W punched out to 427 cubic inches and dynoed by Roush.


Very nice. missed the FI. Hard to tell from the pic. What did you go with for the transmission? I'm planing on a 302 punched to 306 (just .30 over) @ about 390 H.P. with a TKO 600 & 3.27 torsen diff.
 
2012-08-19 06:29:30 PM
Bill Cosby 200 MPH
 
2012-08-19 06:42:28 PM
Your problem with that much HP is getting it to the rear wheels in usable form.

The old Corvettes used to be notorious for that: They woukd burn rubber all the way through first and halfway through second, but all they did was slide sideways and ruin the tires. It was a while before the drivetrain caught up to the horswepower.
 
2012-08-19 06:44:18 PM

kapaso: rohar: TuteTibiImperes: rohar:

Thanks for confirming my suspicion.

That there is a range at low RPM in which the energy required to drive the supercharger exceeds the additional power supplied by the increased air displacement? You're welcome.

Sure, under 1500 rpm, that supercharger is almost as worthless as your opinion. Once you cross that line, hold on. Oh, and if you're trying to take down another car, you won't be under 1500 rpm.

As much as it pains me to say it, Ford is committed to making the Mustang awesome. The project manager on this version is a close contact. He's got his head in the right place. The car has way more power than is necessary, but they didn't neglect suspension and braking. It's a well rounded car and just flat out deserves respect.

Maybe but I had a 71 240z in high school. It had a better chassis set up than a 2012 mustang. Marketing trumps realitity, 850 hp on that chassis has got to be bad, although probably not as bad as I imagine it to be. When ford can catch up to a 40 year old datsun I will be a little more impressed. 240z was a real sports car though so maybe the comparison isn't really fair.


What did you consider better about the 240Z chassis? IRS alone doesn't make a car better than another. The current Mustang outhandles the current Camaro in pretty much every test even though the Camaro has IRS.
 
2012-08-19 06:55:25 PM

TuteTibiImperes: kapaso: rohar: TuteTibiImperes: rohar:

Thanks for confirming my suspicion.

That there is a range at low RPM in which the energy required to drive the supercharger exceeds the additional power supplied by the increased air displacement? You're welcome.

Sure, under 1500 rpm, that supercharger is almost as worthless as your opinion. Once you cross that line, hold on. Oh, and if you're trying to take down another car, you won't be under 1500 rpm.

As much as it pains me to say it, Ford is committed to making the Mustang awesome. The project manager on this version is a close contact. He's got his head in the right place. The car has way more power than is necessary, but they didn't neglect suspension and braking. It's a well rounded car and just flat out deserves respect.

Maybe but I had a 71 240z in high school. It had a better chassis set up than a 2012 mustang. Marketing trumps realitity, 850 hp on that chassis has got to be bad, although probably not as bad as I imagine it to be. When ford can catch up to a 40 year old datsun I will be a little more impressed. 240z was a real sports car though so maybe the comparison isn't really fair.

What did you consider better about the 240Z chassis? IRS alone doesn't make a car better than another. The current Mustang outhandles the current Camaro in pretty much every test even though the Camaro has IRS.


And it continues to hand the BMWs their asses in GARRA. Bark all you want about the rudimentary technology, it's a damned fast car.
 
2012-08-19 07:31:32 PM
Now my car is better. Porsche 962 customer built with a chevy 302 530hp with 4x48mm weber carbs. Bring it !!!

memimage.cardomain.com 

memimage.cardomain.com

store.brmmodelcars.com
 
2012-08-19 07:34:27 PM

Odoriferous Queef: Interceptor1:

Pin drive, black body, Inglese Fuel Injection, IRS, fuel cell, etc. Not on forum. All aluminum 351W punched out to 427 cubic inches and dynoed by Roush.

Very nice. missed the FI. Hard to tell from the pic. What did you go with for the transmission? I'm planing on a 302 punched to 306 (just .30 over) @ about 390 H.P. with a TKO 600 & 3.27 torsen diff.


Tremec 5 speed. It currently has 3.27 gears but they're coming out. Two thousand RPM in third is 60+ mph which is no good. Putting in 4.33's since I don't want a 200+ mph car. The car is for street use. It's already been well into the triple digits with no issues and never even thought about leaving fourth gear.

It's like a big go kart with serious power. Ditched most of the Factory 5 parts but kept the body and modified the chassis.
 
2012-08-19 07:48:06 PM

batalia: Now my car is better. Porsche 962 customer built with a chevy 302 530hp with 4x48mm weber carbs. Bring it !!!

[memimage.cardomain.com image 575x431] 

[memimage.cardomain.com image 575x425]

[store.brmmodelcars.com image 850x850]


Uh, that's not a car. It's expensive lawn art. If you've got about $30k on hand I can make it something.

Oh, and that's no more Porsche than a Cayenne. Sure, there's some Porsche plastic on it, but that's about it.

Good luck with it though.
 
2012-08-19 07:49:08 PM

Notabunny: Nice tribute, Ford. Proper color choice and badging, too. Good work. That grumpy old bastard would approve, and then ask, "Why not 1,000 horsepower?".


This grumpy old bastard is asking, "Hardtop? WTF is with the hardtop?"

Not gonna buy it... gotta have my ragtop.
 
2012-08-19 08:54:15 PM
Unless Obama gets elected again this November, I'm trading in my mustang for a new one.
I've had four....85, 89, 95, 99....my 99 only has 80k on it. I was going to get a new one this
year, but, I don't want car payments with this idiot in the White House. I've got enough in the
bank to hold me for about 6 months if something happened. No credit card bills, no bills of
anything other than the basics. Job is very stable, but I would rather not take a chance with
what might come from an unhinged Obama. If the economy starts to improve next spring,
I'm getting me a new one....if for anything else, because Ford is about to "Mustang 2" the next
model and make it look like all the other (.--- .- .--.) rice burners running around with their outboard
motor sounds.
 
2012-08-19 09:11:26 PM

rohar: TuteTibiImperes: kapaso: rohar: TuteTibiImperes: rohar:

Thanks for confirming my suspicion.

That there is a range at low RPM in which the energy required to drive the supercharger exceeds the additional power supplied by the increased air displacement? You're welcome.

Sure, under 1500 rpm, that supercharger is almost as worthless as your opinion. Once you cross that line, hold on. Oh, and if you're trying to take down another car, you won't be under 1500 rpm.

As much as it pains me to say it, Ford is committed to making the Mustang awesome. The project manager on this version is a close contact. He's got his head in the right place. The car has way more power than is necessary, but they didn't neglect suspension and braking. It's a well rounded car and just flat out deserves respect.

Maybe but I had a 71 240z in high school. It had a better chassis set up than a 2012 mustang. Marketing trumps realitity, 850 hp on that chassis has got to be bad, although probably not as bad as I imagine it to be. When ford can catch up to a 40 year old datsun I will be a little more impressed. 240z was a real sports car though so maybe the comparison isn't really fair.

What did you consider better about the 240Z chassis? IRS alone doesn't make a car better than another. The current Mustang outhandles the current Camaro in pretty much every test even though the Camaro has IRS.

And it continues to hand the BMWs their asses in GARRA. Bark all you want about the rudimentary technology, it's a damned fast car.


Wut?

Last time I checked, the ZL1 was producing superior track times on a road course with an 80 hp deficit to the GT500, and beating it in drag tests once installed with a basic Hennessey package to bring it up to the 620 hp range. At any rate, every comparative review thus far has made note that the ZL1 has the better handling.

We were in the market for one, but now we're waiting on GM's inevitable response -- which Mustang fans should as well. Too many die-hards seem to forget that the current line up of the GT500 would have rolled out with a good 100 hp less if not for their friends at Chevrolet.
 
2012-08-19 09:23:29 PM

Beavz0r: rohar: TuteTibiImperes: kapaso: rohar: TuteTibiImperes: rohar:

Thanks for confirming my suspicion.

That there is a range at low RPM in which the energy required to drive the supercharger exceeds the additional power supplied by the increased air displacement? You're welcome.

Sure, under 1500 rpm, that supercharger is almost as worthless as your opinion. Once you cross that line, hold on. Oh, and if you're trying to take down another car, you won't be under 1500 rpm.

As much as it pains me to say it, Ford is committed to making the Mustang awesome. The project manager on this version is a close contact. He's got his head in the right place. The car has way more power than is necessary, but they didn't neglect suspension and braking. It's a well rounded car and just flat out deserves respect.

Maybe but I had a 71 240z in high school. It had a better chassis set up than a 2012 mustang. Marketing trumps realitity, 850 hp on that chassis has got to be bad, although probably not as bad as I imagine it to be. When ford can catch up to a 40 year old datsun I will be a little more impressed. 240z was a real sports car though so maybe the comparison isn't really fair.

What did you consider better about the 240Z chassis? IRS alone doesn't make a car better than another. The current Mustang outhandles the current Camaro in pretty much every test even though the Camaro has IRS.

And it continues to hand the BMWs their asses in GARRA. Bark all you want about the rudimentary technology, it's a damned fast car.

Wut?

Last time I checked, the ZL1 was producing superior track times on a road course with an 80 hp deficit to the GT500, and beating it in drag tests once installed with a basic Hennessey package to bring it up to the 620 hp range. At any rate, every comparative review thus far has made note that the ZL1 has the better handling.

We were in the market for one, but now we're waiting on GM's inevitable response -- which Mustang fans should as well. Too many ...


You notice I didn't say anything about GM. It's getting to the point that American brands own GARRA. BMW's holding on, barely. Porsche, the winningest brand in motorsport, is nowhere to be seen. Mustangs and Camaros are cleaning house.

I'm curious as hell when one of them makes a Le Mans bid.

/I'm kinda married to Porsche
//It pains me to admit most of what I just did
 
2012-08-19 09:41:44 PM
Most of you don't know what you're talking about when you derp on about IRS. FORD HAD DEVELOPED AND TESTED AN IRS FOR THE ORIGINAL MUSTANG BACK IN 1965. The unit was tested on a Falcon........the original Mustang was a Falcon under the skin. The reason Ford suits chose not to go with the IRS is because the actuaries and accountants told them, correctly so, that an IRS would not lead to increased sales......Ford was already selling all the Mustangs it could build. An IRS would have done nothing for the bottom line. The majority of Mustang buyers back in the day didn't give a shiat about IRS, and the majority of Mustang buyers today don't give a shiat about IRS.....THAT'S WHY THE MUSTANG DOESN'T HAVE IRS.

Mustang IRS Video
 
2012-08-19 09:42:31 PM

Interceptor1: Odoriferous Queef: If you want a Shelby go with this:
[www.musclecarrestorations.com image 700x342]

I did. 600 hp, less than 2500 pounds.

[dev01.press.jhu.edu image 850x637]


Is that a Datsun 280z?
 
2012-08-19 11:03:17 PM

Frederick: Interceptor1

I did. 600 hp, less than 2500 pounds.

[dev01.press.jhu.edu image 850x637]

Is that a Datsun 280z?


No. it's a highly modified ZAZ-968M Zaporozhets. 
I think interceptor1 did and awsome job with the conversion.
 
2012-08-19 11:25:11 PM
I spent the day out in my '64 1/2 Mustang convertible, so yes I do want one.

The rear seat in the early cars is useable by an adult.

/built 289with an Edelbrock carb and manifold
//T-5 Motorsport 5-speed
///Pony interior upgrade
 
2012-08-19 11:58:21 PM

elvisaintdead: PreMortem: I'd take a biatchin' camaro over a ford any day.

You could use some Mojo Nixon.


He don't work here.
 
2012-08-20 12:05:38 AM

markb289: I spent the day out in my '64 1/2 Mustang convertible, so yes I do want one.

The rear seat in the early cars is useable by an adult.

/built 289with an Edelbrock carb and manifold
//T-5 Motorsport 5-speed
///Pony interior upgrade


That was in an era where turbochargers were applied as intended, and golfcarts were things other countries made.

Oh, and having an automatic in a Mustang of that era is no problem. With the lack of power steering, I'd think it'd be a help.
 
2012-08-20 12:12:38 AM

rohar: Beavz0r: rohar: TuteTibiImperes: kapaso: rohar: TuteTibiImperes: rohar:

Thanks for confirming my suspicion.

That there is a range at low RPM in which the energy required to drive the supercharger exceeds the additional power supplied by the increased air displacement? You're welcome.

Sure, under 1500 rpm, that supercharger is almost as worthless as your opinion. Once you cross that line, hold on. Oh, and if you're trying to take down another car, you won't be under 1500 rpm.

As much as it pains me to say it, Ford is committed to making the Mustang awesome. The project manager on this version is a close contact. He's got his head in the right place. The car has way more power than is necessary, but they didn't neglect suspension and braking. It's a well rounded car and just flat out deserves respect.

Maybe but I had a 71 240z in high school. It had a better chassis set up than a 2012 mustang. Marketing trumps realitity, 850 hp on that chassis has got to be bad, although probably not as bad as I imagine it to be. When ford can catch up to a 40 year old datsun I will be a little more impressed. 240z was a real sports car though so maybe the comparison isn't really fair.

What did you consider better about the 240Z chassis? IRS alone doesn't make a car better than another. The current Mustang outhandles the current Camaro in pretty much every test even though the Camaro has IRS.

And it continues to hand the BMWs their asses in GARRA. Bark all you want about the rudimentary technology, it's a damned fast car.

Wut?

Last time I checked, the ZL1 was producing superior track times on a road course with an 80 hp deficit to the GT500, and beating it in drag tests once installed with a basic Hennessey package to bring it up to the 620 hp range. At any rate, every comparative review thus far has made note that the ZL1 has the better handling.

We were in the market for one, but now we're waiting on GM's inevitable response -- which Mustang fans should as well. Too many ...

You notice I didn't say anything about GM. It's getting to the point that American brands own GARRA. BMW's holding on, barely. Porsche, the winningest brand in motorsport, is nowhere to be seen. Mustangs and Camaros are cleaning house.

I'm curious as hell when one of them makes a Le Mans bid.

/I'm kinda married to Porsche
//It pains me to admit most of what I just did


Bah, meant to reply to TuteTibilmperes.

m.Fark does a terrible job of separating quotes from their comments (at least in Chrome, anyway).
 
2012-08-20 12:18:18 AM

Beavz0r: Bah, meant to reply to TuteTibilmperes.


If you look at it as an opportunity to push information rather than dogma, I thing we did well. The hell with the quote feature of m.fark.com!
 
2012-08-20 12:47:23 AM

Odoriferous Queef: Frederick: Interceptor1

I did. 600 hp, less than 2500 pounds.

[dev01.press.jhu.edu image 850x637]

Is that a Datsun 280z?

No. it's a highly modified ZAZ-968M Zaporozhets. 
I think interceptor1 did and awsome job with the conversion.


Oh. Thanks for the info; I'll google that. I read that earlier in the thread, but didnt understand what it meant....

\looks like a 280z
 
2012-08-20 12:50:36 AM

Beavz0r:


Bah, meant to reply to TuteTibilmperes.


I was thinking more along the lines of the Mustang GT vs the Camaro SS, I remember the reviews being pretty unanimous that the Mustang felt lighter and easier to toss around the track. I didn't even realize the ZL1 was out, I haven't paid a lot of attention to it. When it comes to the Shelby there's an additional 200-250 lbs of weight compared to the GT and it all sits over the front wheels, that's going to hurt handling.

I haven't driven a 2013 Shelby yet, but compared to the 2011 GT500 the Boss 302 feels more natural and connected. Yes, it's down on power, but even a base Mustang GT or Camaro SS has way more power than you'll ever need. Personally I think the responsiveness and handling on the Boss give it an edge when it comes to the car that's more fun to drive.
 
2012-08-20 02:46:56 AM
I'd love to get hold of the engine for a few weeks to hook it up to a huge siren so I can play it when cars with boom boxes drive down our street with their windows open and create enough noise to rattle our double pane windows and our floors through the carpets. About 5 seconds of such a device might just send them a message - when they get back their hearing! FYI: In our town (Fremont, CA) the cops won't do anything about it as despite it being against the law, they choose not to enforce it as they don't collect enough money from the fines. Here is the web site to Chrysler's version,

http://chryslerairraidsiren.com
 
2012-08-20 04:10:38 AM
I looked at the speedometer... The speedometer starts at zero and goes all the way up around to TWO HUNDRED M. P. H., and under the "200" there's still more room, and the words, "Oh wow".
 
2012-08-20 05:07:09 AM

Frederick: Interceptor1: Odoriferous Queef: If you want a Shelby go with this:
[www.musclecarrestorations.com image 700x342]

I did. 600 hp, less than 2500 pounds.

[dev01.press.jhu.edu image 850x637]

Is that a Datsun 280z?


Factory Five type 65 coupe. Kit car version of the 1965 Shelby Daytona Coupe. Now you know where Datsun got the styling for their early sports cars. You also know how pathetic the Datsun effort was when the original had a 400 hp V8.

Factory Five

Shelby 

The real ones are worth millions so I had to pass on one of those.
 
2012-08-20 11:03:12 AM

astouffer: Yeah and it will have a live rear axle with leaf spring suspension. The stock V6 Mustangs already snap driveshafts. I'd never buy a domestic car.


Ford put a lightweight drive shaft on the 2011+ V6's in order to get the 31 MPG highway rating. I don't know of a single instance where one has failed on a stock car. It has happened where people have modified their PCM's to circumvent the speed limiter which I believe is set at (an embarrassingly low for a Mustang) 117 MPH.

It is well known that if you want to upgrade the V6, you need to replace the drive shaft. But please go on about how all domestic cars suck.
 
2012-08-20 11:13:30 AM

Outtaphase: I recently bought the '13 GT500 with 662HP. If you let the tires warm up a bit, the power goes down nicely enough without fighting the traction control too much. If they're cold the traction control might as well not be there. It will never corner like a 458 Italia, but controlling the muscle is what's fun to some of us, not winning a road course competition.


Oh man, how do you keep that thing on the road? Doesn't it automatically drive itself right into a ditch every time you press the gas pedal? /sarcasm

I have a 2011 GT with a Roush TVS supercharger, Borla S-Type exhaust, and Ford Racing wheels (285's in the rear). It's my poor man's Shelby, and I love it! For barely $40K, I have a bad ass street machine that puts down 576 HP to the wheels. It's still an inferior setup to the Shelby, but it handles a hell of a lot better than all the haters make it out. Most people who say that stuff about Mustangs probably have never even ridden in a 2011+, let alone driven one. Hell, the Boss 302 makes a lot of smaller, supposedly more nimble cars, its biatches on the track.

Haters gonna hate.
 
2012-08-20 11:25:46 AM

mattg: I bet that piece of shiat still has a live rear axle


I bet it still has ROUND wheels too. Pfttt. Ancient technology.
 
2012-08-20 11:37:26 AM

TuteTibiImperes: I'm not talking about turbo lag, and I might have phrased it badly, but yes, a supercharger does have moving parts that create additional drag before the increased air flow can result in more power.


That's why you don't start out at 1,500 RPM's. Trust me, if you launch any supercharged car at high RPM's, you have boost before your tires even start spinning. Even cars with centrifugal superchargers, known for little low RPM boost, but big high RPM boost, can be launched with enough boost to break loose any rubber.
 
2012-08-20 01:35:35 PM
people don't understand that these come out of shelby america's speed shop. the suspension, drive shaft, brakes and pretty much all the stock parts are swapped out for high performance. the gt500 is shipped to shelby in vegas, and then it's made into the cobra. this isn't done with the stock gt500s.
 
2012-08-20 01:44:28 PM
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If I had money and the knowhow...
 
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