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(LA Times)   Ford unveils Shelby Cobra with a monster 850-horsepower engine. Difficulty: There's only one available   (latimes.com) divider line 150
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2012-08-19 08:32:33 AM
Dibbs. Because I live my life a quarter of a mile at a time.
 
2012-08-19 08:58:44 AM
fark yes. That is all.
 
2012-08-19 09:32:46 AM
Good luck putting down all that power with their piece of crap suspension. If you stick to a straight line on a very smooth surface, you might be OK.

/first car was a 69 boss 302
//and a hunk of junk
 
2012-08-19 09:48:22 AM

Marcus Aurelius: Good luck putting down all that power with their piece of crap suspension. If you stick to a straight line on a very smooth surface, you might be OK.

/first car was a 69 boss 302
//and a hunk of junk


Don't know much about their suspensions, do you?
 
2012-08-19 11:06:09 AM
I recently bought the '13 GT500 with 662HP. If you let the tires warm up a bit, the power goes down nicely enough without fighting the traction control too much. If they're cold the traction control might as well not be there. It will never corner like a 458 Italia, but controlling the muscle is what's fun to some of us, not winning a road course competition.
 
2012-08-19 11:08:20 AM
yafh.com
 
2012-08-19 11:10:53 AM
I'd take a biatchin' camaro over a ford any day.


/one ran over my neighbor
 
2012-08-19 11:24:28 AM

PreMortem: I'd take a biatchin' camaro over a ford any day.


/one ran over my neighbor


Yeah, it's in all the papers
 
2012-08-19 11:29:06 AM

Outtaphase: [yafh.com image 684x427]


Nice! If I had a spare 60K laying around I'd get one.

Rumor mill has it that the 2014's will have an independent rear suspension.
 
2012-08-19 11:31:33 AM

PreMortem: I'd take a biatchin' camaro over a ford any day.


You could use some Mojo Nixon.
 
2012-08-19 11:31:34 AM

Lsherm: Rumor mill has it that the 2014's will have an independent rear suspension.


'14's will be pretty much identical to '13 from what I hear. The '15 will be a major overhaul for the whole Mustang line.
 
2012-08-19 11:32:35 AM

Outtaphase: Lsherm: Rumor mill has it that the 2014's will have an independent rear suspension.

'14's will be pretty much identical to '13 from what I hear. The '15 will be a major overhaul for the whole Mustang line.


Awesome, that's right around when I'm planning on getting a new one. If it does have an independent suspension, look out. It could actually corner!
 
2012-08-19 11:37:46 AM
I would so crash that within an hour of leaving the dealership.
 
2012-08-19 11:38:27 AM
But does it have Rack and Peanut steering?
 
2012-08-19 11:38:52 AM
Fuel tank emptied in 12 minutes running flat out.
 
2012-08-19 11:40:35 AM

Outtaphase: Lsherm: Rumor mill has it that the 2014's will have an independent rear suspension.

'14's will be pretty much identical to '13 from what I hear. The '15 will be a major overhaul for the whole Mustang line.


Yeah, whoops. 2015
 
2012-08-19 11:40:40 AM
/Yes, Americans love putting dragster engines on baby-carriage suspensions.
//Go, Merikuns!
 
2012-08-19 11:40:53 AM
jaypgreene.files.wordpress.com

Gonna have tryouts?
 
2012-08-19 11:43:50 AM

HeadKase: Marcus Aurelius: Good luck putting down all that power with their piece of crap suspension. If you stick to a straight line on a very smooth surface, you might be OK.

/first car was a 69 boss 302
//and a hunk of junk

Don't know much about their suspensions, do you?


Actually, it would appear he does.


//Did they at least beef up the rear sway bar this time?



//First car was a '68 with a 289. Loved that car.
 
2012-08-19 11:44:42 AM
Nice tribute, Ford. Proper color choice and badging, too. Good work. That grumpy old bastard would approve, and then ask, "Why not 1,000 horsepower?".
 
2012-08-19 11:45:10 AM
Those are some butt ugly cars.
 
2012-08-19 11:46:57 AM
R.I.P. Shelby Lynne

userserve-ak.last.fm
 
2012-08-19 11:48:19 AM
Mustangs are like tampons, sooner or later, every pussy gets one.
 
2012-08-19 11:48:48 AM

Marcus Aurelius: Good luck putting down all that power with their piece of crap suspension. If you stick to a straight line on a very smooth surface, you might be OK.


You'd think that a fixed rear axel would really affect cornering performance, but side-by-side tests with a pro driving the 2011 Mustang GT and 2011 M3 show there's not much different on an actual track:

http://www.motortrend.com/roadtests/coupes/1010_2011_2011_ford_mustan g _gt_vs_2011_bmw_m3_comparison/viewall.html
 
2012-08-19 11:52:20 AM
Yeah and it will have a live rear axle with leaf spring suspension. The stock V6 Mustangs already snap driveshafts. I'd never buy a domestic car.
 
Skr
2012-08-19 11:52:54 AM
It looks decent, but strikes me as being a little on the generic side of design.
 
2012-08-19 11:56:18 AM

Honest Bender: Those are some butt ugly cars.


Meh, I rather like the look of the Shelbys.

Had a guy in a convertible 2011-2012 Shelby want to play on the way home from work last week (in one of the biggest speed trap parts of town no less). I'm in my stone-stock WRX wagon. Like to play outside your weight class much mister?

I think it's the (functional) hood scoop on WRX's that does it to DB's. So many cars, including Mustangs, have non-functional scoops, they think it makes the car look mean or something. I mean, FFS, I drive a goddamn wagon.

/CSB
 
2012-08-19 11:57:32 AM
And it actually looks good...

Unlike that horrifically ugly and severely over rated Veyron.
 
2012-08-19 11:57:46 AM

czei: Marcus Aurelius: Good luck putting down all that power with their piece of crap suspension. If you stick to a straight line on a very smooth surface, you might be OK.

You'd think that a fixed rear axel would really affect cornering performance, but side-by-side tests with a pro driving the 2011 Mustang GT and 2011 M3 show there's not much different on an actual track:

http://www.motortrend.com/roadtests/coupes/1010_2011_2011_ford_mustan g _gt_vs_2011_bmw_m3_comparison/viewall.html


It's still a track. Drive them on a POS road and you'll really get that hopping experience Mustangs are known for.

/still WANT
 
2012-08-19 11:57:59 AM

cameroncrazy1984: Awesome, that's right around when I'm planning on getting a new one. If it does have an independent suspension, look out. It could actually corner!


If you are seriously considering a '15, have your research and order ready to place by December 2013.

For example, last day to order a '13 is Nov. 29 2012 (at this point). Order banks for '14's will open in December 2012. Production will change over from '13 to '14 in March 2013. If you want to avoid the ridiculous mark-ups dealers are putting on cars, order early to get straight MSRP (unlikely you will beat that anywhere).

Ask the dealer about their allocation history, and if they are part of the Ford SVT sales plan. If they have not sold Shelby's before, they are unlikely to get an allocation. SVT certified dealers usually only get 1 or 2 allocations. Some dealers will take your deposit and put the order in anyway knowing full well that you will not get that car.
 
2012-08-19 11:58:47 AM
fark that.

/MOPAR!
 
2012-08-19 12:00:52 PM
Jay Leno immediately ejaculated all over it.

Mavis sighs.
 
2012-08-19 12:03:40 PM
Sweet. I'm heading to work at Laguna Seca. I'll have to check this out.

Is there an easy way to post pics straight from my iPhone to the mobile site?
 
2012-08-19 12:04:01 PM
850 hp? I doubt I could drive it on the street with this massive erection.
 
2012-08-19 12:11:26 PM

Outtaphase: For example, last day to order a '13 is Nov. 29 2012 (at this point). Order banks for '14's will open in December 2012. Production will change over from '13 to '14 in March 2013. If you want to avoid the ridiculous mark-ups dealers are putting on cars, order early to get straight MSRP (unlikely you will beat that anywhere).

Ask the dealer about their allocation history, and if they are part of the Ford SVT sales plan. If they have not sold Shelby's before, they are unlikely to get an allocation. SVT certified dealers usually only get 1 or 2 allocations. Some dealers will take your deposit and put the order in anyway knowing full well that you will not get that car


I'm already ahead of you. My father has done taxes for the guy who owns the Ford dealership in his hometown for 30 years. I'm planning to go through him.
 
2012-08-19 12:12:30 PM
If you want a Shelby go with this:
www.musclecarrestorations.com
 
2012-08-19 12:13:24 PM

DrMcNinja: But does it have Rack and Peanut steering?


This is why we can't have nice things.
 
2012-08-19 12:20:26 PM
Someone call me when Hertz starts renting them again.

/ we'll have a party because it means all lawyers are dead !
 
2012-08-19 12:20:45 PM

cameroncrazy1984: My father has done taxes for the guy who owns the Ford dealership in his hometown for 30 years. I'm planning to go through him.


Because in the USSA, nothing trumps intentional scarcity like personal connections.
 
2012-08-19 12:21:54 PM

astouffer: Y I'd never buy a domestic car.


Beautiful. More for me to choose from.
 
2012-08-19 12:22:32 PM

Honest Bender: Those are some butt ugly cars.


anomit.com
 
2012-08-19 12:23:08 PM

czei: Marcus Aurelius: Good luck putting down all that power with their piece of crap suspension. If you stick to a straight line on a very smooth surface, you might be OK.

You'd think that a fixed rear axel would really affect cornering performance, but side-by-side tests with a pro driving the 2011 Mustang GT and 2011 M3 show there's not much different on an actual track:

http://www.motortrend.com/roadtests/coupes/1010_2011_2011_ford_mustan g _gt_vs_2011_bmw_m3_comparison/viewall.html


Yes, a purpose built Mustang "not quite" beating the vehicle it was purpose built to beat. Impressive.

/Would take the M3 over the Mustang
//Mustang has come a long way, is very nice
///My Kia has an IRS. Whar Independence, Ford? WHAR?!
 
2012-08-19 12:23:15 PM
Do you accept a check?
 
2012-08-19 12:25:57 PM
On a side note, I hope whoever buys it drives it. Don't put that shiat in a garage. Unleash that puppy on the road.
 
2012-08-19 12:28:53 PM

IvanTheSilent: Whar Independence, Ford? WHAR?!


Ford said that it would make the car too expensive.

That's what they said on Top Gear, anyway.
 
2012-08-19 12:33:48 PM

URAPNIS: IvanTheSilent: Whar Independence, Ford? WHAR?!

Ford said that it would make the car too expensive.

That's what they said on Top Gear, anyway.


I call bullshiat. IRS's have been around since what, the late '50s? If they can't figure out how to build one on the cheap, they aren't trying.

/I repeat
//My KIA has an IRS. Whar Independence, Ford? WHAR?!
 
2012-08-19 12:36:11 PM

Outtaphase: [yafh.com image 684x427]


WANT
 
2012-08-19 12:36:46 PM
WANT
 
2012-08-19 12:38:21 PM

Notabunny: Nice tribute, Ford. Proper color choice and badging, too. Good work. That grumpy old bastard would approve, and then ask, "Why not 1,000 horsepower?".


Link
 
2012-08-19 12:40:19 PM
in b4 all the Persians in my neighborhood paint and badge their stock 2012s to look like that

/2004 Intrepid SXT 250hp 21mpg city
//balsa-glass hybrid transmission
 
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