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(Cryptomundo)   Man who says he killed Bigfoot passes polygraph exam. Polygraph examiner believes him. Nessie goes into witness protection program   (cryptomundo.com) divider line 85
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2012-08-19 09:16:54 AM  
Assuming the polygraph itself isn't a hoax, a tall order given anything Bigfoot, all they've proven is the guy sincerely believes in Bigfoot and that he killed Bigfoot. +1 though for the subtle inference for proof of existence.
 
2012-08-19 09:43:59 AM  
Bigfoot shouldn't have been wearing a hoodie and walking casually in the rain.



//drink
 
2012-08-19 10:05:36 AM  
Any missing person reports for very tall bearded men?
 
2012-08-19 10:06:12 AM  
If he believes it, it's not a lie to him.
 
2012-08-19 10:07:35 AM  
If only the aliens hadn't stolen the body. Curses!
 
2012-08-19 10:09:16 AM  
why does anyone still give a frack about polygraph tests? psychopaths can pass them and the virtuous can fail them. dude's an attention whore. if he wasn't he should be given the 'kill a bald eagle' treatment. but he's just an AW.
 
2012-08-19 10:10:00 AM  
Being pseudoscience, polygraphy and Bigfoot are made for each other.
 
2012-08-19 10:13:40 AM  
Read the interview with this examiner. She goes from pseudo-science talk of polygraph exams to "Yeah, I totally believe in Bigfoot now."

It's ridiculous.
 
2012-08-19 10:14:43 AM  

Nem Wan: Being pseudoscience, polygraphy and Bigfoot are made for each other.


Polygraphy is to the 21st century what handwriting analysis was to the 20th century and phrenology was to the 19th.

/Not to say that there aren't still people who believe in handwriting analysis and, for all know, phrenology.
 
2012-08-19 10:15:22 AM  
So, how many years he gets for murder?
 
2012-08-19 10:15:51 AM  
Bigfoot stole a bag of skittles?
 
2012-08-19 10:17:03 AM  

mauricecano: Assuming the polygraph itself isn't a hoax, a tall order given anything Bigfoot, all they've proven is the guy sincerely believes in Bigfoot and that he killed Bigfoot. +1 though for the subtle inference for proof of existence.


The polygraph doesn't have to be a hoax. A polygraph isn't a truth test. It is a, "Does this person think he is telling the truth test."
 
2012-08-19 10:18:39 AM  
So there is no physical evidence, only a crappy picture of the back of a Chewbacca costume.

Why is it these things are never seen by PhD's or rocket scientists, only by toothless, inbred yokels in flannel shirts.

Like we're supposed to believe Larry the Cable Guy. 

/Yeah, I know its been said b-4. It just pisses me off every single time
 
2012-08-19 10:22:00 AM  
I had to take a polygraph test once, and I asked the examiner how accurate the process was.

He said I dunno, but you would be amazed at the shiat people start admitting just because they're hooked up to the machine.
 
2012-08-19 10:22:19 AM  
Imagine if this started a War between humans and Bigfeet or did the sci-fi channel make that movie already.
 
2012-08-19 10:22:42 AM  
Who would have thought he'd look like Larry the Cable Guy?
 
2012-08-19 10:23:06 AM  
Either this guy or someone talking about him was on Joe Rogan's podcast a few months ago. The story adds up as long as you don't require proof of anything, including a body. Using the same rigorous method of proof, I just killed Godzilla in my backyard. I'd show you pictures, but a giant bear made off with the corpse before I could charge my camera, which had a dead battery. There also isn't any blood, because there was a freak thunderstorm right after I shot him. I managed to carve off some of the skin on his back, but I had it in my shirt pocket and it accidentally fell down the garbage disposal while I was doing dishes. But I sure as shiat killed that farker, you can trust me.
 
2012-08-19 10:26:11 AM  
were I a lawyer, i would be sure to toss this "evidence" into every trial where a polygraph was used against my client.
 
2012-08-19 10:29:31 AM  
I have big feet evidence
 
2012-08-19 10:31:31 AM  
Polygraph is a load of crap, had to take one at work, someone stole a shaitload of computer equipment, Poly was voluntary, since I didnt do it i said why not, always wondered what they were like. M-Fer administering test said I was lying and did it. I told him, if He tells that shait to my boss, I was gonna sue the crap out of him and the police dept. 2 weeks later they caught the ratbastard who did it. only about 10% of us took the test.
 
2012-08-19 10:31:32 AM  

RogermcAllen: mauricecano: Assuming the polygraph itself isn't a hoax, a tall order given anything Bigfoot, all they've proven is the guy sincerely believes in Bigfoot and that he killed Bigfoot. +1 though for the subtle inference for proof of existence.

The polygraph doesn't have to be a hoax. A polygraph isn't a truth test. It is a, "Does this person think he is telling the truth test."


Polygraphy isn't very good at that, either.
 
2012-08-19 10:32:42 AM  
images3.wikia.nocookie.net
 
2012-08-19 10:36:18 AM  
That man convincingly and conclusively passed a polygraph test. He IS telling the truth, and that truth is as infallible as the word of God.

I, for one, am preparing to invest my entire life savings towards developing lab-grade Big Foot food nuggets, since scientists will surely need a high quality and nutritious Big Foot food nugget to feed Big Feets during laboratory experiments.

Now that we know Big Foot is real, and not a myth, the final cog is in place to spark the next U.S. civil war. Which side of the war to decide the plural form of Big Foot will you fall on? Big Foots or Big Feet?
 
2012-08-19 10:39:29 AM  

RogermcAllen: mauricecano: Assuming the polygraph itself isn't a hoax, a tall order given anything Bigfoot, all they've proven is the guy sincerely believes in Bigfoot and that he killed Bigfoot. +1 though for the subtle inference for proof of existence.

The polygraph doesn't have to be a hoax. A polygraph isn't a truth test. It is a, "Does this person think he is telling the truth test."


I think the proof that the polygraph *is* a hoax was well established, even before this ridiculous episode

I think the incredulity of the operator says a lot about the people running polygraph tests, as well.
 
2012-08-19 10:39:51 AM  
Did someone tell @WolfOutside? Because he's been tweeting about Bigfoot trying to get into the cabin.
 
2012-08-19 10:48:40 AM  
i1244.photobucket.com
 
2012-08-19 10:57:19 AM  
I won't believe it until they bring me his wristwatch.

4.bp.blogspot.com 

/hot
 
2012-08-19 10:59:11 AM  

RogermcAllen: mauricecano: Assuming the polygraph itself isn't a hoax, a tall order given anything Bigfoot, all they've proven is the guy sincerely believes in Bigfoot and that he killed Bigfoot. +1 though for the subtle inference for proof of existence.

The polygraph doesn't have to be a hoax. A polygraph isn't a truth test. It is a, "Does this person think he is telling the truth is stressed test."


It's not a magic lie detecting machine. It measures various biological responses. All this guy proved was that he doesn't get flustered.

/There's a reason these aren't admissible in court.
 
2012-08-19 11:00:16 AM  
Goonie goo goo.

/ Hopes Aunt Bunny is still safe out there somewhere.
 
2012-08-19 11:02:46 AM  
I was sittin' at home mindin' my own g'damn bizniss, watchin' some ball, when I hears me a knock at my doe.

I says "Who dat knockin' at my doe at this hour, I'm trying to watch the game!"

So I goes to the doe, and wouldn't you know it, there's one of them Bigfoots standin' at my doe!

I says "Bigfoots what the hell you doin' knockin' at my doe at this hour, I'm tryin' to watch the game!"

He say "I'm a little down on my luck and wanna know if you can give me somethin' to helps me get by?"

I say "What, Bigfoots?"

He say "I need about tree-fiddy."

I say "Tree fiddy!!! HELL no Bigfoots you aint gettin' no tree -fiddy from me, now you get off my damn porch and leave me alone so I can watch the game!"

i1.ytimg.com
 
2012-08-19 11:04:48 AM  
Why does this cryptozoology site have a tag, like the Washington Post or the NY Times?
 
2012-08-19 11:06:15 AM  

SwingDancer: Polygraph is a load of crap, had to take one at work, someone stole a shaitload of computer equipment, Poly was voluntary, since I didnt do it i said why not, always wondered what they were like. M-Fer administering test said I was lying and did it. I told him, if He tells that shait to my boss, I was gonna sue the crap out of him and the police dept. 2 weeks later they caught the ratbastard who did it. only about 10% of us took the test.


Pretty sure the tester just said that to see your response or get you to admit it. I took one for one of my job prerequisites that dealt with a lot of money and after I told the tester I have never done any illegal drugs in my life, tried to get me to say I have. I said "well I don't know what else to tell you. That's the truth." He finally kind of smiled and said OK. I passed no problem.
 
2012-08-19 11:11:02 AM  

RogermcAllen: The polygraph doesn't have to be a hoax. A polygraph isn't a truth test. It is a, "Does this person think he is telling the truth test."


That's giving polygraphs way too much credit.
 
2012-08-19 11:26:44 AM  

SwingDancer: Polygraph is a load of crap, had to take one at work, someone stole a shaitload of computer equipment, Poly was voluntary, since I didnt do it i said why not, always wondered what they were like. M-Fer administering test said I was lying and did it. I told him, if He tells that shait to my boss, I was gonna sue the crap out of him and the police dept. 2 weeks later they caught the ratbastard who did it. only about 10% of us took the test.


They do that to get you to confess to something.
 
2012-08-19 11:28:16 AM  

Shvetz: Why does this cryptozoology site have a tag, like the Washington Post or the NY Times?


Why does i09 have a tag?

Because there are enough submissions from it to warrant one. It's not like it's a farking endorsement.
 
2012-08-19 11:29:18 AM  
I've never understood why America still takes the polygraph seriously (unless it's an 'invented here' situation).

Any other countries use them?
 
2012-08-19 11:32:41 AM  
He didn't kill Bigfoot...I killed Bigfoot. He was messing around in my trash and made rude comments about my mother, so I beat him to death with the holy grail. The Loch Ness Monster saw the whole thing.

Hey, I have about as much evidence as this guy.
 
2012-08-19 11:38:05 AM  

Horsebolt McStabledoor: [images3.wikia.nocookie.net image 446x595]


Bigfoot, not Big Fudge.
 
2012-08-19 11:44:41 AM  

Tillmaster: I've never understood why America still takes the polygraph seriously (unless it's an 'invented here' situation).

Any other countries use them?


It doesn't do most of the things people think it does, but it's still considered a useful tool if you know how to use it. In combination with other interrogation methods, of course.
 
2012-08-19 11:46:20 AM  
Was it one of these polygraphs?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SHhxZ4BWeBQ&feature=youtube_gdata_play e r
 
2012-08-19 11:50:59 AM  

Tillmaster: I've never understood why America still takes the polygraph seriously


Uh... we don't.
 
2012-08-19 11:52:11 AM  
mauricecano

Assuming the polygraph itself isn't a hoax,
"Polygraphs" as a science are a bigger hoax than bigfoot and Nessie put together. Practitioners are ethical frauds. Just like Dowsers, Chiropractors, Palm readers, etc...
 
2012-08-19 11:52:54 AM  
*sigh* make that un]/b]ethical
 
2012-08-19 11:53:08 AM  
As a proud member of the sasquatch community in good standing I, for one, frown on this dipshiat's shenanigans.

*harumph*
 
2012-08-19 11:53:54 AM  

Honest Bender: Tillmaster: I've never understood why America still takes the polygraph seriously

Uh... we don't.


It's still a standard part of the FBI's hiring process.
 
2012-08-19 11:54:06 AM  

SwingDancer: Polygraph is a load of crap, had to take one at work, someone stole a shaitload of computer equipment, Poly was voluntary, since I didnt do it i said why not, always wondered what they were like. M-Fer administering test said I was lying and did it. I told him, if He tells that shait to my boss, I was gonna sue the crap out of him and the police dept. 2 weeks later they caught the ratbastard who did it. only about 10% of us took the test.


Similar thing happened to a friend of mine years ago at his job. Somebody had stolen a few thousand dollars of electronics components from his job. So his company did the same thing and had the voluntary polly to "clear" your name. From what my friend said basically the only people that took the polly were people that had an airtight alibi for where they were, basically nowhere near the job, when the stuff went missing. As a result a good number of people who took the test had failed. And all of the failures were proven to be false because a few months later they actually caught one of the shipping managers trying to sell the stuff.

After he told me that I never trusted a polly again.
 
2012-08-19 11:54:10 AM  

flynn80: Imagine if this started a War between humans and Bigfeet or did the sci-fi channel make that movie already.


www.palzoo.net

/those Bigfeet bathe in Nads, though
 
2012-08-19 11:54:17 AM  
Oh, well a Polygraph exam, it MUST be true then.

Other than some cops who rubs donuts on his erection, who in the world takes a polygraph seriously?

Cops believe them for two reasons, 1) They're stupid and 2) They think everyone is guilty of something, somewhere...SO LET ME TAZE THE BASTARD AND BEAT HIM WITH MY CLUB....but I digress....
 
2012-08-19 11:57:44 AM  

Honest Bender: Tillmaster: I've never understood why America still takes the polygraph seriously

Uh... we don't.


As Ongbok and SwingDancer's anecdotes attest, yeah maybe we do. :( Kind of like how seriously we take credit reports.......and those are worse frauds than polygraphs. So what happens to all the people who fail a lie detector test but are actually telling the truth?
 
2012-08-19 11:59:22 AM  

Honest Bender: RogermcAllen: mauricecano: Assuming the polygraph itself isn't a hoax, a tall order given anything Bigfoot, all they've proven is the guy sincerely believes in Bigfoot and that he killed Bigfoot. +1 though for the subtle inference for proof of existence.

The polygraph doesn't have to be a hoax. A polygraph isn't a truth test. It is a, "Does this person think he is telling the truth is stressed test."

It's not a magic lie detecting machine. It measures various biological responses. All this guy proved was that he doesn't get flustered.

/There's a reason these aren't admissible in court.


Indeed. It doesn't detect lies; all it does is detect various biological responses (heart rate, blood pressure, sweat rate, etc...). And the underlying assumption is that if a person lies more, these responses will change to a greater effect than if the same person is not lying. There's no evidence that this is true.

More damning, in my opinion, is the inability for one expert to read the graphs of another expert. If these graphs are supposed to tell if a person is lying, then they should be readable by other exerts in the field, and they should be able to get the same outcome ("Yes, the person lied on question 6," for example). They cannot. The readouts are unreadable by anyone not reading them at the same moment they're produced.
 
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