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(Oregon Live)   It's come to this: A group of gun enthusiasts crash an event where the public is voluntarily turning in their firearms. "One-hundred fifty for the revolver sir. It's not too late"   (oregonlive.com) divider line 181
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Rat
2012-08-19 09:27:20 AM
I truly believe that anyone that criticizes guns hasn't felt that pure joy that only a loud bang can satisfy. Ya'll should try it. Soothing. Satisfying. Good times...

© and FTR, I don't consider it hoarding ammo if the ammo was on sale. Its just being thrifty.
 
2012-08-19 09:27:32 AM

Louisiana_Sitar_Club: stevarooni: Louisiana_Sitar_Club: Something....something......no background check required?....something.

Something...something...private citizens legally selling and buying property...something...hullabaloo....

Wow, seriously? (Keep in mind, you're talking to someone who knows jack effing squat about guns.) So let's say that I've been convicted of a handful of violent felonies and have a history of schizophrenia. I can't go down to the gun shop and buy a pistol because I won't pass the background check. In that case, I can send my relatively stable friend with a clean record in there to buy it and then I can legally buy it from him?


If you don't pass the background check it's more than likely illegal for you to own the gun after you've legally purchased it so good luck getting any permits. But you could do that sure.. or just buy a burner from someones trunk. 'Cause criminals don't follow laws you know?
 
2012-08-19 09:28:00 AM

nmbottlecap: fluffy2097: It's a goddamn waste to destroy a gun worth thousands of dollars because someone offered you $75.

Guns are not just weapons, they can be pieces of history. We shouldn't be melting down historical artifacts.

The random guns that aren't historical, If someone wants to throw away money, that's their choice to make a terrible trade.

Guns may, after a long period of time be historical artifacts, that said, if you keep a gun for its historical value why not have it disabled so it can't resume it's intended purpose, to kill?


Because altering it ruins its value.

What you are suggesting is tantamount to owning a classic car, but not putting en engine in it so that it cant be driven bc its not safe without electronic stability control.
 
2012-08-19 09:28:24 AM
Amusing...more like Brilliant.

The person selling the gun would get more money then the cops are offering, and most likely the guy buying the gun is getting it on the cheap.

It's a win/win
 
2012-08-19 09:31:54 AM
I'm pretty sure that all of the rabbits and squirrels in the area are happy to know they will safer from the gang bangers considering most of the guns mentioned were .22's.
 
2012-08-19 09:33:38 AM

ZzeusS: Saturday's collection was deemed a success as 244 firearms were collected along with a crossbow. All weapons collected are melted down.


Actually got a little sick to my stomach on that one.

How many collectors items and pure history is being destroyed, here? Quite a shame.


Why on earth shouldn't people destroy their own property? If someone wants to destroy grandad's old shotgun instead of keeping it or selling it, that's their choice.

Seriously, I don't understand everyone moaning about this. Let other people make their own choices about their own property.
 
2012-08-19 09:35:39 AM
To all the people with the "straw purchase" answer: thank you.
Okay, so let's forget the friend. If someone legally owns a gun and they want to sell it on Craig's List, are they at all obligated to make an effort not to sell a gun to the whacked out felon in my previous post?
 
2012-08-19 09:37:32 AM

ManicParroT: ZzeusS: Saturday's collection was deemed a success as 244 firearms were collected along with a crossbow. All weapons collected are melted down.


Actually got a little sick to my stomach on that one.

How many collectors items and pure history is being destroyed, here? Quite a shame.

Why on earth shouldn't people destroy their own property? If someone wants to destroy grandad's old shotgun instead of keeping it or selling it, that's their choice.

Seriously, I don't understand everyone moaning about this. Let other people make their own choices about their own property.


Nobody sane is suggesting that gun buybacks should be made illegal.
 
2012-08-19 09:42:01 AM

Louisiana_Sitar_Club: If someone legally owns a gun and they want to sell it on Craig's List, are they at all obligated to make an effort not to sell a gun to the whacked out felon in my previous post?


Yes, but not a very extensive one. When making a private sale, the seller is obliged to ensure themselves that the person purchasing the gun is not a prohibited person. Normally, this just takes the form of asking the person. Many people I know, myself included, that sell firearms from their collections require the buyer to sign a form declaring they aren't prohibited. A CYA measure in case they lie. Usually, the same form declares that the buyer assures that the firearm isn't stolen etc. Protection for both sides of the transaction. If someone doesn't want to sign the form, I won't sell to them.
 
2012-08-19 09:43:26 AM
I'm fine with gun buy-backs. It gives people who don't have an interest in having a gun but somehow found themselves in possession of one, a marketed opportunity to legally get rid of it. If they are a moral crusader who wants to "remove it" entirely, they can leave knowing that they contributed somehow to a "good cause" (however pointless, in the face of reality).

I'm also OK with others bidding on the guns, because they DO have value (though the worth of that value may be debateable in some circles). Just going by odds, most firearms are not going to be significant, but people disposing of the firearm in this way would not be in a position to judge that accurately. To them, the gun is worth $75, even though a collector might pay ten times that amount.

I wouldn't consider this "crashing" the buy back event. If they had marched in and waved posters around protesting the imminent destruction of innocent guns, then I would say they crashed it.

This? This was commerce.

The only part that I had a bad reaction to was the cop saying that the gun buyers weren't going to be handing the guns to "undesireables." WTF is that? What makes one an "undesireable"? Is that code for "people of color"? "Gays"? "Liberals"? "Conservatives"? "Heretics and apostates"? or "People who legally are prohibited from owning a firearm"?
 
2012-08-19 09:46:55 AM

Louisiana_Sitar_Club: To all the people with the "straw purchase" answer: thank you.
Okay, so let's forget the friend. If someone legally owns a gun and they want to sell it on Craig's List, are they at all obligated to make an effort not to sell a gun to the whacked out felon in my previous post?


Craigslist TOS prohibits selling of firearms. Doesn't mean it doesn't happen as I see them posted frequently but they do get flagged for removal. Still kicking myself for not calling a guy about a muzzleloader on there last week. Legally speaking, a muzzleloader is not a firearm and in most states felons are allowed to own them for hunting.
 
2012-08-19 09:48:51 AM

killiemary: Good idea! That way when some crackhead kicks in my door to steal stuff & possibly kill me, I'll have my handy dandy disabled firearm to protect me.


You shouldn't be using a historical piece to protect your home, so while you are on the right side of the argument, you make no decent point.
 
2012-08-19 09:49:33 AM

Click Click D'oh: Louisiana_Sitar_Club: If someone legally owns a gun and they want to sell it on Craig's List, are they at all obligated to make an effort not to sell a gun to the whacked out felon in my previous post?

Yes, but not a very extensive one. When making a private sale, the seller is obliged to ensure themselves that the person purchasing the gun is not a prohibited person. Normally, this just takes the form of asking the person. Many people I know, myself included, that sell firearms from their collections require the buyer to sign a form declaring they aren't prohibited. A CYA measure in case they lie. Usually, the same form declares that the buyer assures that the firearm isn't stolen etc. Protection for both sides of the transaction. If someone doesn't want to sign the form, I won't sell to them.


I guess that's something anyway. You'll have to excuse me. I'm terribly ignorant in this arena and finding it a little surprising that the reality is, it would be pretty easy for any nutcase/criminal to lay their hands on a gun without having to going to someone who makes a business of illegally selling weapons.
 
2012-08-19 09:49:42 AM

Captain_Ballbeard: Then they go right down the street and sell off the .38s to the hoodrats.

I own guns, but it is becoming less and less frequent that I meet or know anybody who identifies as a gun enthusiast who is not a completely insane racist asshole. Sorry.


STFU idiot and start hanging out with smarter people
 
2012-08-19 09:50:04 AM

Louisiana_Sitar_Club: To all the people with the "straw purchase" answer: thank you.
Okay, so let's forget the friend. If someone legally owns a gun and they want to sell it on Craig's List, are they at all obligated to make an effort not to sell a gun to the whacked out felon in my previous post?


Well first off Craigs List is anti gun, you can advertise prostituion all you want (nttawwt) but any mention of selling a firearm get's your ad yanked.

In my state there are laws on the books that say you need to be reasonably sure that the person you are selling to is not prohibited from owning firearms, I believe federal law backs that up, so yeah, generally if you have reasonable doubt that the person you are selling to is a felon or has been adjudicated mentally incompetent or any other disqualifier it's a felony to sell to them, it's why many private sellers make the transaction at a gun shop and do a federal transfer, that way they go through the background check. The other option is one I've used, I only sell to someone with a concealed carry permit, even if it's a shotgun or rifle. Having a valid concealed carry license indicates they've passed a background check and haven't done anything to have it revoked since.

This whole thing is what is referred to as "the gun show loophole" that anti firearms types always talk about, despite it being a felony for knowingly selling to someone who can't legally own one.

That's not a loophole, and the real story is how little the ATF and most local governments do to actually enforce these laws, they'd love to ban face to face sales altogether but can't be bothered to enforce the reasonable laws already on the books.
 
2012-08-19 09:51:04 AM

Captain_Ballbeard: Then they go right down the street and sell off the .38s to the hoodrats.

I own guns, but it is becoming less and less frequent that I meet or know anybody who identifies as a gun enthusiast who is not a completely insane racist asshole. Sorry.


So these guys are arming people that they hate and fear? Sure that makes sense.

/not a gun enthusiast
//owns 6 guns anway
///family heirlooms
 
2012-08-19 09:52:05 AM
FTA-"One of his first purchases of the day, a Remington Nylon 66 22-caliber rifle, was for $20"

SON OF A BIATCH! I've been looking for one of those. $20? Really? Did the original owner not know what that gun is worth?

"He immediately resold it for $100 to another gun buyer, Darren Campbell of Salem, who recognized the firearm as worth potentially triple what he paid."

I gotta start looking around for these buy back programs.
 
2012-08-19 09:53:03 AM

fluffy2097: killiemary: Good idea! That way when some crackhead kicks in my door to steal stuff & possibly kill me, I'll have my handy dandy disabled firearm to protect me.

You shouldn't be using a historical piece to protect your home, so while you are on the right side of the argument, you make no decent point.


A WWII GI Issue 1911 handgun is very much a historical piece, it's also more than capable of being used in home defense. A well cared for firearm using the proper ammunition lasts a hell of a long time.
 
2012-08-19 09:54:01 AM

nmbottlecap: fluffy2097: It's a goddamn waste to destroy a gun worth thousands of dollars because someone offered you $75.

Guns are not just weapons, they can be pieces of history. We shouldn't be melting down historical artifacts.

The random guns that aren't historical, If someone wants to throw away money, that's their choice to make a terrible trade.

Guns may, after a long period of time be historical artifacts, that said, if you keep a gun for its historical value why not have it disabled so it can't resume it's intended purpose, to kill?


Are police weapons intended to kill?
 
2012-08-19 09:54:46 AM

Rat: I truly believe that anyone that criticizes guns hasn't felt that pure joy that only a loud bang can satisfy.


That, friend, is what fireworks are for. No bullets involved.

/or an enthusiastic farkbuddy
 
2012-08-19 09:59:17 AM

Captain_Ballbeard: Then they go right down the street and sell off the .38s to the hoodrats.

I own guns, but it is becoming less and less frequent that I meet or know anybody who identifies as a gun enthusiast who is not a completely insane racist asshole. Sorry.


Birds of a feather. You're an idiot. Stands to reason anybody who would want to associate with you would be an idiot too.
 
2012-08-19 10:00:49 AM

chairborne: A WWII GI Issue 1911 handgun is very much a historical piece, it's also more than capable of being used in home defense. A well cared for firearm using the proper ammunition lasts a hell of a long time.


Why would you want to use it for home defense though? the 1911 is a solid design, but if an intruder breaks into your home and you shoot them with it, you can bet your ass your gun is going to be held as evidence for a while till your name is cleared.

You want grandpa's 1911 sitting in an evidence locker where anyone can play with and damage it? Of course not. Historical weapons should not be used as home defense.
 
2012-08-19 10:01:30 AM

Basily Gourt: FTA-"One of his first purchases of the day, a Remington Nylon 66 22-caliber rifle, was for $20"

SON OF A BIATCH! I've been looking for one of those. $20? Really? Did the original owner not know what that gun is worth?

"He immediately resold it for $100 to another gun buyer, Darren Campbell of Salem, who recognized the firearm as worth potentially triple what he paid."

I gotta start looking around for these buy back programs.


$20? Couldn't that guy have gotten a $75 gift card for that rifle at the buyback?
 
2012-08-19 10:03:47 AM

JonZoidberg: Basily Gourt: FTA-"One of his first purchases of the day, a Remington Nylon 66 22-caliber rifle, was for $20"

SON OF A BIATCH! I've been looking for one of those. $20? Really? Did the original owner not know what that gun is worth?

"He immediately resold it for $100 to another gun buyer, Darren Campbell of Salem, who recognized the firearm as worth potentially triple what he paid."

I gotta start looking around for these buy back programs.

$20? Couldn't that guy have gotten a $75 gift card for that rifle at the buyback?


Yea, I got a feeling that this was one of those "buyback" programs where the only people who show up are crooks with stolen weapons. $20 cash vs. $75 gift card. Do the math.
 
2012-08-19 10:04:33 AM

Click Click D'oh: Louisiana_Sitar_Club: If someone legally owns a gun and they want to sell it on Craig's List, are they at all obligated to make an effort not to sell a gun to the whacked out felon in my previous post?

Yes, but not a very extensive one. When making a private sale, the seller is obliged to ensure themselves that the person purchasing the gun is not a prohibited person. Normally, this just takes the form of asking the person. Many people I know, myself included, that sell firearms from their collections require the buyer to sign a form declaring they aren't prohibited. A CYA measure in case they lie. Usually, the same form declares that the buyer assures that the firearm isn't stolen etc. Protection for both sides of the transaction. If someone doesn't want to sign the form, I won't sell to them.


You have a copy of that form or know where I could get a generic one? It'd be nice to have given I'm shopping around for a CCW
 
2012-08-19 10:04:47 AM
ArmagedDan I'm just not seeing all this derp people are talking about.


Enjoy your gun shows in PA.

Down here in TX it is DERP,derp...derp.
 
2012-08-19 10:06:16 AM

hogans: badhatharry: one0nine: Actually, I'm completely ok with this. I've heard of some pretty incredible stuff being turned in during these events, and the cops HAVE to destroy them, no matter how rare the piece. Let the collectors offer a fair price, which benefits both parties, and also serves the police's need to have them off the street... it's a win all around.

How is it "off the street"? Is that this dog whistle racial code I've been hearing about?

Suppose some citizen inherits a pair of prized Purdey shotguns. I'd much rather have them sell to a collector than turn them in for destruction. They certainly would be respected enough to be well cared for. The only fate worse than destruction would be if an idiot gangster sawed off the barrels for his criminal enterprise.


How about vintage grenades?
Do you weep knowing a world war I pineapple may be taken out of circulation as well, or is it only handguns that give you a boner?
 
2012-08-19 10:08:25 AM
Say you had a police department who had a bunch of cars in the impound yard.
Let's say among those cars were collectible vehicles, some from the fifties smd others worth tens of thousands as they sit.
...and let's say the PD decided to line them and drive monster trucks over them up so they could prove how much they dislike speeders and drunk drivers.

What would you tell that same police department when they came back the next fiscal year complaining about how their budget was short again?
Because when you get past the gun phobia, some of what gets turned in by well meaning citizens are items worth real money.

/A local woman turned in an m1 carbine from the Korean war.
/it was maybe worth two grand.
/ain't worth jack as scrap.
/Her (now ex) husband was pissed.
 
2012-08-19 10:10:01 AM
media.oregonlive.com

Bruce Cook, among buyers standing on the periphery of a firearms "turn in" at Memorial Coliseum, purchased this wood-handled Colt revolver for $100. The barrel script shows it was once police gun.

Really? I guess when they send someone out to cover a story, they must ask around and say, "Do you know anything about _____?" And they send the person who is most ignorant on the subject. At least he didn't call it a Glock.

For the benefit of you Farkers who are also ignorant, "Official Police" is the model name for this Colt. Has nothing to do with whether it was issued to a police department. Likewise, a Python is not necessarily used for hunting big snakes.
 
2012-08-19 10:10:21 AM

exparrot: hogans: badhatharry: one0nine: Actually, I'm completely ok with this. I've heard of some pretty incredible stuff being turned in during these events, and the cops HAVE to destroy them, no matter how rare the piece. Let the collectors offer a fair price, which benefits both parties, and also serves the police's need to have them off the street... it's a win all around.

How is it "off the street"? Is that this dog whistle racial code I've been hearing about?

Suppose some citizen inherits a pair of prized Purdey shotguns. I'd much rather have them sell to a collector than turn them in for destruction. They certainly would be respected enough to be well cared for. The only fate worse than destruction would be if an idiot gangster sawed off the barrels for his criminal enterprise.

How about vintage grenades?
Do you weep knowing a world war I pineapple may be taken out of circulation as well, or is it only handguns that give you a boner?


False equivalency. You can't really use a grenade for hunting, self defense, or sport. It's a one-time use item that, if you have one, should be made safe to keep as an artifact/antique/whatever.
 
Rat
2012-08-19 10:13:30 AM

craigdamage: ArmagedDan I'm just not seeing all this derp people are talking about.


Enjoy your gun shows in PA.

Down here in TX it is DERP,derp...derp.


I second that...San Antonio gun shows, where camouflage is a primary color and goes well with Crocs.

©
 
2012-08-19 10:13:50 AM

Louisiana_Sitar_Club: Click Click D'oh: Louisiana_Sitar_Club: If someone legally owns a gun and they want to sell it on Craig's List, are they at all obligated to make an effort not to sell a gun to the whacked out felon in my previous post?

Yes, but not a very extensive one. When making a private sale, the seller is obliged to ensure themselves that the person purchasing the gun is not a prohibited person. Normally, this just takes the form of asking the person. Many people I know, myself included, that sell firearms from their collections require the buyer to sign a form declaring they aren't prohibited. A CYA measure in case they lie. Usually, the same form declares that the buyer assures that the firearm isn't stolen etc. Protection for both sides of the transaction. If someone doesn't want to sign the form, I won't sell to them.

I guess that's something anyway. You'll have to excuse me. I'm terribly ignorant in this arena and finding it a little surprising that the reality is, it would be pretty easy for any nutcase/criminal to lay their hands on a gun without having to going to someone who makes a business of illegally selling weapons.


Welcome to reality. We're glad you finally made it over.
 
2012-08-19 10:15:06 AM

fluffy2097: chairborne: A WWII GI Issue 1911 handgun is very much a historical piece, it's also more than capable of being used in home defense. A well cared for firearm using the proper ammunition lasts a hell of a long time.

Why would you want to use it for home defense though? the 1911 is a solid design, but if an intruder breaks into your home and you shoot them with it, you can bet your ass your gun is going to be held as evidence for a while till your name is cleared.

You want grandpa's 1911 sitting in an evidence locker where anyone can play with and damage it? Of course not. Historical weapons should not be used as home defense.


Not everyone has the cash to be a collector, if Grandads 1911 is what you've got then I'm sure Grandad would more than understand you using it to defend your home.

I do have a little cash but I'm still not a collector, I *use* all of my firearms, I generally prefer modern weaponry but if the gun that comes to hand is one that has historical value then c'est la vie.
 
2012-08-19 10:18:54 AM
I'm a gun owner, ans a strong advocate of the second amendment - but some of the more publicly extreme attention whores among the ranks don't make the position any easier to support.
i18.photobucket.com
 
2012-08-19 10:22:46 AM
"Other buyers said they purchased guns on a principle -- to prevent the firearms from going out of circulation"

What exactly is that principle again? Is everyone required to own a firearm now?
 
2012-08-19 10:23:59 AM

SonOfSpam: [media.oregonlive.com image 380x285]

Bruce Cook, among buyers standing on the periphery of a firearms "turn in" at Memorial Coliseum, purchased this wood-handled Colt revolver for $100. The barrel script shows it was once police gun.

Really? I guess when they send someone out to cover a story, they must ask around and say, "Do you know anything about _____?" And they send the person who is most ignorant on the subject. At least he didn't call it a Glock.

For the benefit of you Farkers who are also ignorant, "Official Police" is the model name for this Colt. Has nothing to do with whether it was issued to a police department. Likewise, a Python is not necessarily used for hunting big snakes.


Well,maybe not - but i always use a snub-nose when I'm hunting Irishmen.
 
2012-08-19 10:26:36 AM

Click Click D'oh: Louisiana_Sitar_Club: If someone legally owns a gun and they want to sell it on Craig's List, are they at all obligated to make an effort not to sell a gun to the whacked out felon in my previous post?

Yes, but not a very extensive one. When making a private sale, the seller is obliged to ensure themselves that the person purchasing the gun is not a prohibited person. Normally, this just takes the form of asking the person.


You are correct, that is not a very extensive measure.
 
2012-08-19 10:35:01 AM

chairborne: Well first off Craigs List is anti gun, you can advertise prostituion all you want (nttawwt) but any mention of selling a firearm get's your ad yanked.


Can't you just say something like "Winchester model 70, composite stock blowjob - 450 roses"?
 
2012-08-19 10:42:52 AM

Basily Gourt: FTA-"One of his first purchases of the day, a Remington Nylon 66 22-caliber rifle, was for $20"

SON OF A BIATCH! I've been looking for one of those. $20? Really? Did the original owner not know what that gun is worth?

"He immediately resold it for $100 to another gun buyer, Darren Campbell of Salem, who recognized the firearm as worth potentially triple what he paid."

I gotta start looking around for these buy back programs.


If I'd known I'd have gone. This is cool, like a gun show should be. I used to go to the gun shows, but it's the same old thing with vendor tables set up selling OEM stuff.
 
2012-08-19 10:45:19 AM

Coelacanth: The Japanese have their golf religion. We Americans have a gun religion.

/Gun God demands regular feedings.


BLOOD FOR THE BLOOD GOD!

SKULLS FOR THE SKULL THRONE!!!
 
2012-08-19 10:48:30 AM
I don't own any guns that I would give up for anything near $150, step up your game if you want to get them "off the street".
 
2012-08-19 10:50:28 AM
Trial runs for forced "buy backs" where your own tax money will be used to conficate your own property.
 
2012-08-19 10:52:24 AM

Pfactor: Skunkarific: Hilarious. And the cops were cool with it too.

As noted in TFA, the police were cool with it because everything was legal. I don't understand why it's hilarious that the police are OK with law-abiding people doing legal things.


What's hilarious is that these transnational progressives involved with Oregon Ceasefire actually think they are doing anything other than providing another couple of hundred disarmed victims and encouraging crime. Maybe if they wish really really hard and put on their rose colored glasses they can deny reality and fool themselves. Lying
to yourself and believing it has got to be a mental illness.
 
2012-08-19 11:00:04 AM

Ficoce: Basily Gourt: FTA-"One of his first purchases of the day, a Remington Nylon 66 22-caliber rifle, was for $20"

SON OF A BIATCH! I've been looking for one of those. $20? Really? Did the original owner not know what that gun is worth?

"He immediately resold it for $100 to another gun buyer, Darren Campbell of Salem, who recognized the firearm as worth potentially triple what he paid."

I gotta start looking around for these buy back programs.

If I'd known I'd have gone. This is cool, like a gun show should be. I used to go to the gun shows, but it's the same old thing with vendor tables set up selling OEM stuff.


gunbroker.com pretty much killed off the better gun shows. Just like ebay killed off most good flea markets.
 
2012-08-19 11:02:28 AM

Louisiana_Sitar_Club: stevarooni: Louisiana_Sitar_Club: Something....something......no background check required?....something.

Something...something...private citizens legally selling and buying property...something...hullabaloo....

Wow, seriously? (Keep in mind, you're talking to someone who knows jack effing squat about guns.) So let's say that I've been convicted of a handful of violent felonies and have a history of schizophrenia. I can't go down to the gun shop and buy a pistol because I won't pass the background check. In that case, I can send my relatively stable friend with a clean record in there to buy it and then I can legally buy it from him?


Actually then you will have gone from one Federal felony, trying to buy a gun as a prohibited person, to two or more Federal, State and Local felonies, buying/possessing a gun as a prohibited person, participating in a "straw buy", fraud (your friend swearing the gun is for him) and I'm sure any DA with an eye to higher office could come up with 5 or 6 more without any real effort. Of course the odds are in your favor since the Dept. of Just Us only prosecutes about 1 out of a thousand such cases.
 
2012-08-19 11:04:07 AM
So the people in the article were trying to be straw buyers right in front of the cops. Brilliant.
 
2012-08-19 11:09:03 AM

ex-nuke: Louisiana_Sitar_Club: stevarooni: Louisiana_Sitar_Club: Something....something......no background check required?....something.

Something...something...private citizens legally selling and buying property...something...hullabaloo....

Wow, seriously? (Keep in mind, you're talking to someone who knows jack effing squat about guns.) So let's say that I've been convicted of a handful of violent felonies and have a history of schizophrenia. I can't go down to the gun shop and buy a pistol because I won't pass the background check. In that case, I can send my relatively stable friend with a clean record in there to buy it and then I can legally buy it from him?

Actually then you will have gone from one Federal felony, trying to buy a gun as a prohibited person, to two or more Federal, State and Local felonies, buying/possessing a gun as a prohibited person, participating in a "straw buy", fraud (your friend swearing the gun is for him) and I'm sure any DA with an eye to higher office could come up with 5 or 6 more without any real effort. Of course the odds are in your favor since the Dept. of Just Us only prosecutes about 1 out of a thousand such cases.


There is also an existing black market for stolen or imported weapons.
Which is where the problem has always been with gun laws. They control the storefronts and the law abiding, not the guns or the criminals.

/But once people get obsessed with confiscating those icky pieces of scrap metal, all sight of the objective is lost.
 
2012-08-19 11:10:54 AM

dennysgod: Amusing...more like Brilliant.

The person selling the gun would get more money then the cops are offering, and most likely the guy buying the gun is getting it on the cheap.

It's a win/win


It is Oregon Ceasefire that is holding this Buy Up (you can't buy "back" something you didn't sell) the Police are only assisting so one of these idiots don't hurt themselves or someone else. Of course Oregon Ceasefire is probably not using their own money they are not that interested in this kind of farce.
 
2012-08-19 11:12:29 AM

seancakes: So the people in the article were trying to be straw buyers right in front of the cops. Brilliant.


Stray purchasing is when you buy a gun so you can sell it to someone who can't legally own one.
If you are a legal owner and you buy the gun for yourself, there isn't a crime. The cops can't stop you from conducting legitimate business.

/If you are in the business of buying and selling guns then you'll need an FFL license.
 
2012-08-19 11:14:15 AM
I don't see anything bad about this. It's the free market doing it's thing and like other Farkers have previously said, only people terrified of guns gaining sentience are turning in weapons. Wouldn't the buyer and seller have to complete some kind of paperwork to legally transfer ownership of the firearm? I can't imagine I can toss out a $100 and have a revolver to add to my gun safe without incurring some kind of red tape.
 
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