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(The Tennessean)   Surgeon placed on probation after nearly passing out during a procedure and subsequently blowing a .079. Lightweight   (tennessean.com) divider line 38
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2012-08-18 09:38:07 AM
I'm sure she was hungover and still drunk from the night before. Ouch.
 
2012-08-18 10:02:17 AM
Can't just fall out anymore without people gettin all up in your business.
 
2012-08-18 10:11:11 AM
Some years ago in a TB hospital in Russia I watched two surgeons toast each other with a glass of vodka and immediately go in to pull some poor guys' lung
 
2012-08-18 10:22:08 AM
.0079. Yeah, sure.
 
2012-08-18 10:32:03 AM
I thought you were supposed to drink just enough to steady your hands.
 
2012-08-18 11:05:16 AM
There appears to be a misplaced decimal point and an extra 0 in that headline

/.079 is a little different
//misplaced decimal point got me arrested once
///long story
 
2012-08-18 11:43:40 AM

MaudlinMutantMollusk: There appears to be a misplaced decimal point and an extra 0 in that headline

/.079 is a little different
//misplaced decimal point got me arrested once
///long story


You mean that girl wasn't 150 years old?
 
2012-08-18 03:05:23 PM

ecmoRandomNumbers: MaudlinMutantMollusk: There appears to be a misplaced decimal point and an extra 0 in that headline

/.079 is a little different
//misplaced decimal point got me arrested once
///long story

You mean that girl wasn't 150 years old?


Dude... she's 1.8!
 
2012-08-18 04:03:39 PM
MaudlinMutantMollusk: There appears to be a misplaced decimal point and an extra 0 in that headline

/.079 is a little different
//misplaced decimal point got me arrested once
///long story


No, it sure as fark isn't different.

You're a SURGEON for Christ sakes. You are expected to cut someone open, and tinker with their insides in a matter that a moving an instrument just a millimeter wrong can cause them life-long disability or pain. There is no legal limit here.

If you can't show up to work clean, able to function, and with a BAC of 0.00, then you have a problem, and you need to get help. And you sure as hell don't need to be in a patient care setting.
 
2012-08-18 04:59:30 PM
what's her Fark handle?
 
2012-08-18 05:12:11 PM
Someone's been in the reagent grade ethanol supply.
 
2012-08-18 05:14:36 PM
"She admitted to self-medicating depression symptoms with alcohol and drinking the night before the surgery."

That's why you shouldn't mix medication with alcohol.
 
2012-08-18 05:16:42 PM

BronyMedic: You're a SURGEON for Christ sakes. You are expected to cut someone open, and tinker with their insides in a matter that a moving an instrument just a millimeter wrong can cause them life-long disability or pain. There is no legal limit here.

If you can't show up to work clean, able to function, and with a BAC of 0.00, then you have a problem, and you need to get help. And you sure as hell don't need to be in a patient care setting.


You would be terrified if you knew how many doctors, surgeons, nurses, etc were on a cocktail of drugs. Some legal and some not.
 
2012-08-18 05:17:25 PM
Did she used to work at a M*A*S*H*?
 
2012-08-18 05:17:51 PM
But vicodin is ok, right?

www.novascotiascott.com
 
2012-08-18 05:18:43 PM
4.bp.blogspot.com
 
2012-08-18 05:24:29 PM
Decimal points, how do they work?
 
2012-08-18 05:26:00 PM

BronyMedic: If you can't show up to work clean, able to function, and with a BAC of 0.00, then you have a problem, and you need to get help.


weknowmemes.com
 
2012-08-18 05:35:19 PM

St_Francis_P: I thought you were supposed to drink just enough to steady your hands.


This
 
2012-08-18 05:40:21 PM

Skr: I didn't know Haley Joel Osment had gotten a sex change and became a surgeon.
[cmsimg.tennessean.com image 300x420]


Maybe she's depressed because her GF left her.

mysticcat: I'm sure she was hungover and still drunk from the night before. Ouch.


You'd have to be brutally drunk the night before and wake up to a few shots in your coffee to keep a BAC that high.
 
2012-08-18 05:47:49 PM
BronyMedic: a BAC of 0.00, then you have a problem, and you need to get help. And you sure as hell don't need to be in a patient care setting.

These guys disagree: Link
 
2012-08-18 06:01:58 PM
amateur...

images4.wikia.nocookie.net
 
2012-08-18 06:05:06 PM
How is this not a crime?
 
2012-08-18 06:18:35 PM
traylor: How is this not a crime?

It actually is in Tennessee. Every healthcare board sets an arbitrary limit of 0.00 while on shift, and requires mandatory reporting if you pop positive on a UDS or Blood Alcohol test while on shift.. It's grounds for losing your medical license according to the Tennessee Medical Practice Act. It takes an act of god to get one pulled, but diverting drugs, or being an alcoholic will get the board to do it very quickly.

vodka: You would be terrified if you knew how many doctors, surgeons, nurses, etc were on a cocktail of drugs. Some legal and some not.

No, I wouldn't. I'm well aware of what goes on. This year alone, I saw a nurse I once highly respected have her career destroyed, and lose her license because of an addiction to versed, morphine and fentanyl.

This crap is common in the medical field. The problem is that seeking mental help for the issues you're self-medicating for can often be just as career destroying as the drug problem its self.

Red Shirt Blues: [weknowmemes.com image 479x356]

You're shiatting me, right?

You must not hold your doctors to a high standard. Forgive me for expecting someone who went to school for 12 to 15 years to do their profession would follow the laws and rules of it.
 
2012-08-18 06:53:14 PM

BronyMedic: traylor: How is this not a crime?

It actually is in Tennessee. Every healthcare board sets an arbitrary limit of 0.00 while on shift, and requires mandatory reporting if you pop positive on a UDS or Blood Alcohol test while on shift.. It's grounds for losing your medical license according to the Tennessee Medical Practice Act. It takes an act of god to get one pulled, but diverting drugs, or being an alcoholic will get the board to do it very quickly.

vodka: You would be terrified if you knew how many doctors, surgeons, nurses, etc were on a cocktail of drugs. Some legal and some not.

No, I wouldn't. I'm well aware of what goes on. This year alone, I saw a nurse I once highly respected have her career destroyed, and lose her license because of an addiction to versed, morphine and fentanyl.

This crap is common in the medical field. The problem is that seeking mental help for the issues you're self-medicating for can often be just as career destroying as the drug problem its self.

Red Shirt Blues: [weknowmemes.com image 479x356]

You're shiatting me, right?

You must not hold your doctors to a high standard. Forgive me for expecting someone who went to school for 12 to 15 years to do their profession would follow the laws and rules of it.


that's the problem right there, college plus medical school is 8 yrs. If the doctors you know are doing it in 12 to 15, they must not be very good!

/snark
//OK, 12 if you count high school.
///if you don't count high school but count residency, then it's more like 11 to 15, depending on the residency.
/BTW, this stuff may not be uncommon, but neither is it as common as you make it out to be. I've seen one case in 3 years at my current institution.
 
2012-08-18 06:57:38 PM
Not impressed.

duchovny.net
 
2012-08-18 07:00:45 PM
I think she needs a crotch check. What the hell sex is that person? On the other hand, there's no way I would cut into a person without a scotch or two. I'll bet a lot of doctors do it.
 
2012-08-18 07:20:40 PM
rga184: /BTW, this stuff may not be uncommon, but neither is it as common as you make it out to be. I've seen one case in 3 years at my current institution.

It's more common among non-Physician providers than it is Docs. Docs have their drugs of choice, Ketamine, Fentanyl, Propofol, etc. Nurses, RTs and Paramedics tend to be the ones diverting the morphine and versed.
 
2012-08-18 09:02:19 PM
Well at least she didn't have any pot in her system. You wouldn't want your surgeon to smoke a joint before operating on you, ya know.
 
2012-08-18 09:06:07 PM
Isn't .08 still legal to drive?? How do you pass out from that little alcohol?? :(
 
2012-08-18 09:19:56 PM

Selector: Isn't .08 still legal to drive?? How do you pass out from that little alcohol?? :(


If you've been up all night drinking, it's possible.
 
2012-08-18 10:38:11 PM
i306.photobucket.com
 
2012-08-18 11:21:32 PM

BronyMedic: Every healthcare board sets an arbitrary limit of 0.00 while on shift,


0.00 is good rhetoric, but many devices are unable to detect properly below 0.02
 
2012-08-19 12:41:55 AM

BronyMedic: rga184: /BTW, this stuff may not be uncommon, but neither is it as common as you make it out to be. I've seen one case in 3 years at my current institution.

It's more common among non-Physician providers than it is Docs. Docs have their drugs of choice, Ketamine, Fentanyl, Propofol, etc. Nurses, RTs and Paramedics tend to be the ones diverting the morphine and versed.


Percocet, ativan, and dilaudid were the drugs of choice of the nurses and pharmacists that were diverting when I was relatively new. There were at least 4 people in a hospital that was only 250 beds big. Most recently, at a different facility, the physician on call was found passed out in his call room after consuming at least 5-6 tall boy Coors. We couldn't get him to answer pages or calls and sent security to find him. I've only been a nurse seven years, but that seems more common than I would like.
 
2012-08-19 02:21:25 AM
GUN DEATHS PER YEAR IN USA: Around 30,000

DEATH BY HOSPITAL MISTAKES in the USA each year: 200,000
 
2012-08-19 02:27:01 AM
Average gun deaths per year: 30,000
Average car accident deaths per year: 40,000
Average flu deaths per year: 41,400
Average alcohol linked deaths per year: 75,000
Average HOSPITAL MISTAKE deaths per year: 200,000
Average death per year related to smoking: 443,000

Man doctors and hospitals kill a LOT of people.
 
2012-08-19 05:13:08 AM
ah ha it's alcohol, that makes it HILARIOUS. unlike bath salts, ANOTHER LEGAL PRODUCT. which would be "scary"
cause he'd be all naked and shiat
 
2012-08-19 06:52:00 AM
Dadoody: Average HOSPITAL MISTAKE deaths per year: 200,000
Average death per year related to smoking: 443,000

Man doctors and hospitals kill a LOT of people.


[Citation Needed]

Top Ten Causes of Death in 2009

Heart disease: 599,413
Cancer: 567,628
Chronic lower respiratory diseases: 137,353
Stroke (cerebrovascular diseases): 128,842
Accidents (unintentional injuries): 118,021
Alzheimer's disease: 79,003
Diabetes: 68,705
Influenza and Pneumonia: 53,692
Nephritis, nephrotic syndrome, and nephrosis: 48,935
Intentional self-harm (suicide): 36,909

http://www.cdc.gov/nchs/fastats/lcod.htm/
 
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