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2012-08-18 08:33:27 AM  
If he had just retired quietly with dignity in 2009, NBC wouldn't be in the ratings basement in the first place.
 
2012-08-18 08:39:43 AM  
Jay Leno takes it on the chin

So that's how he got the Tonight Show.
 
2012-08-18 08:47:54 AM  
They should see if Conan is hiring. Or Comedy Central.
 
2012-08-18 10:30:00 AM  
As much as I wanted to hate Leno when he first got the job the fact is he's a genuinely nice guy.
 
2012-08-18 10:36:18 AM  
Begun, the Kabletown penny pinching has.
 
2012-08-18 10:37:24 AM  
If Conan was there, it would have been 80%. He sucks. Comedian my ass.
 
2012-08-18 10:58:13 AM  

FirstNationalBastard: If he had just retired quietly with dignity in 2009, NBC wouldn't be in the ratings basement in the first place.


Interesting to note, TFA states The Tonight Show to be one of NBC's few ratings despite the overall performance of the network.
On the other hand, seems to me that NBC's ten pm time slot has never recovered from the Leno show disaster and profitable shows like the Law &Order flagship were among the casulties.
I don't know if Conan would be or would not be doing as well at 11:30 that Leno is right now, so I'm thinking the hindsight solution was/is either your suggestion that Leno left period and NBC rode it out with Conan, or that Leno should have never stepped down in the first place and NBC let Conan go, which they eventually did anyway.
 
2012-08-18 11:01:22 AM  
No Hero tag?
 
2012-08-18 11:04:47 AM  

Bladel: They should see if Conan is hiring. Or Comedy Central.


Gee, if only we had a way of knowing what ratings Conan could pull in as the host of the Tonight Show. Or what ratings he would pull in hosting an 11:00 show on cable.

Oh, wait...
 
2012-08-18 11:15:21 AM  
So according to the article, it's not about ratings or ad revenue, but Comcast being supremely greedy farkers. Yet somehow it's Jay Leno's fault?
 
2012-08-18 11:25:02 AM  

steamingpile: As much as I wanted to hate Leno when he first got the job the fact is he's a genuinely nice guy.


Have you read either of the books on the War for Late Night?

What I pulled away from that is Leno's "nice guy" attitude is nothing more than a facade. He's a very complicated and very weird guy.

What really freaked me out is that he and his wife have no kids and he's not particularly close to his family. Yet he makes TONS of dough... but NEVER takes vacations and never spends it, except on the cars.

That's... weird.
 
2012-08-18 11:36:27 AM  
Lots of people choose not to have children. And lots of people aren't close to their family. We don't know what his family is like.

But he's one of the few people to be fortunate to enjoy his job so much that he wants to do it all the time. Maybe working and hoarding money and cars is his substitute for the love he never got from his family?
 
2012-08-18 11:39:21 AM  

LectertheChef: So according to the article, it's not about ratings or ad revenue, but Comcast being supremely greedy farkers. Yet somehow it's Jay Leno's fault?


This story really shows the larger problem with our economy: this isn't being done because the show is losing money, it's being done becauseit's not profitable enough. So people are getting fired to squeeze a few more dollars out of what is already a cash cow for them.

But, hey, we gotta give those job creators lots of tax breaks, amirite?
 
2012-08-18 11:43:34 AM  
You know, it is so fashionable to take a shot at Jay Leno. Look, the fact is the man is out there every bloody night with fresh material and he's charming.
 
2012-08-18 11:46:42 AM  

MattyFridays: steamingpile: As much as I wanted to hate Leno when he first got the job the fact is he's a genuinely nice guy.

Have you read either of the books on the War for Late Night?

What I pulled away from that is Leno's "nice guy" attitude is nothing more than a facade. He's a very complicated and very weird guy.

What really freaked me out is that he and his wife have no kids and he's not particularly close to his family. Yet he makes TONS of dough... but NEVER takes vacations and never spends it, except on the cars.

That's... weird.


Nothing weird about it.
Maybe, like most really rich people, he does what he does because he really likes it. Not out of greed or the need to take fancy vacations. No different than Buffet or Gates or Jobs or Walton.
 
2012-08-18 11:51:00 AM  

jake_lex: This story really shows the larger problem with our economy: this isn't being done because the show is losing money, it's being done becauseit's not profitable enough. So people are getting fired to squeeze a few more dollars out of what is already a cash cow for them.


This can be easily solved if investors would no longer care about profits.

You can start by switching your portfolio to less profitable companies. Every movement starts with the actions of a brave person.
Go for it!
 
2012-08-18 12:04:22 PM  

DubyaHater: If Conan was there, it would have been 80%. He sucks. Comedian my ass.


Not too loud...the 12 people or so that actually watch the Conan CrapFest on TBS seem to be on Fark

Leno leads the late nite talk shows....before and after ConanTastrophy....Conan killed the Tonight Show with his crap schtick and porta-potty bottom looks.

Seems like Comcast is cutting everywhere at NBC...Leno's show has a large staff...and it is the only revenue-producer at the network now
 
2012-08-18 12:25:45 PM  

tenpoundsofcheese:

Nothing weird about it.
Maybe, like most really rich people, he does what he does because he really likes it. Not out of greed or the need to take fancy vacations. No different than Buffet or Gates or Jobs or Walton.



Jobs took vacations and breaks. Gates retired early. I'm not saying they shouldn't do what they love, but if you read the books, Leno leads an EXTREMELY spartan lifestyle (outside of the cars) and doesn't spend any money although he's made a metric ton of cash. Where is it all going, and what does he plan to do with it? No kids to pass it on to.
 
2012-08-18 12:28:25 PM  
That time slot wasn't for Conan anyway. His humor is too quirky and nerdy for mainstream. It would have been a disaster if he pandered to the lowest common denominator.
 
2012-08-18 12:35:58 PM  
UCFRoadWarrior

Leno leads the late nite talk shows....before and after ConanTastrophy....Conan killed the Tonight Show with his crap schtick and porta-potty bottom looks.




Dude I mean we all know you're a troll in these late night threads but for the last time Big Jaw is not going to fark you simply because you are not a 1920 Ford Model-T.
 
2012-08-18 12:37:50 PM  
BTW Does anyone remember during the writers strike when Big Jaw did that pathetic shtick with the donuts to his writers saying he was "behind them" only to lay many of his staff off at Christmas time?

Giant Big-Chined Doucher.
 
2012-08-18 01:16:34 PM  
Bbbbbuuuuttttt what about this guy?

2.bp.blogspot.com

I know, he got canned two years ago.
Stern rules!



OK, not so much any more.
 
2012-08-18 01:25:32 PM  

MattyFridays: tenpoundsofcheese:

Nothing weird about it.
Maybe, like most really rich people, he does what he does because he really likes it. Not out of greed or the need to take fancy vacations. No different than Buffet or Gates or Jobs or Walton.


Jobs took vacations and breaks. Gates retired early. I'm not saying they shouldn't do what they love, but if you read the books, Leno leads an EXTREMELY spartan lifestyle (outside of the cars) and doesn't spend any money although he's made a metric ton of cash. Where is it all going, and what does he plan to do with it? No kids to pass it on to.


From what does Leno need to take a vacation? It's not like he wakes up in the morning, smacks the alarm and says "oh shiat, I gotta go out and tell a bunch of jokes!"

He may not be a Hollywood spender, but it's not like he lives in a one-bedroom apartment in the ghetto living off of Ramen noodles. While I know what I would do with, say, $5 million, I have no clue what I'd do with $100 million - is he supposed to spend it just 'cause it's there?
 
2012-08-18 02:13:13 PM  

AliceBToklasLives: MattyFridays: tenpoundsofcheese:

Nothing weird about it.
Maybe, like most really rich people, he does what he does because he really likes it. Not out of greed or the need to take fancy vacations. No different than Buffet or Gates or Jobs or Walton.


Jobs took vacations and breaks. Gates retired early. I'm not saying they shouldn't do what they love, but if you read the books, Leno leads an EXTREMELY spartan lifestyle (outside of the cars) and doesn't spend any money although he's made a metric ton of cash. Where is it all going, and what does he plan to do with it? No kids to pass it on to.

From what does Leno need to take a vacation? It's not like he wakes up in the morning, smacks the alarm and says "oh shiat, I gotta go out and tell a bunch of jokes!"

He may not be a Hollywood spender, but it's not like he lives in a one-bedroom apartment in the ghetto living off of Ramen noodles. While I know what I would do with, say, $5 million, I have no clue what I'd do with $100 million - is he supposed to spend it just 'cause it's there?


Yes, that's exactly what he's supposed to do. What's the point of holding onto it? He could start up his own boutique car company easily enough, or at least invest it in other people's companies. I'm sure EBR or Motus could use the cash infusion. It's actually weird that he doesn't do stuff like that, given that he's supposed to be such a gearhead. What would be cooler for a guy like that than to actually own a piece of a company that makes something you're really into?

But he doesn't. He just squirrels it away, buys exotic and classic cars and motorcycles, and that's about it.
 
2012-08-18 02:22:38 PM  
Leno has said publicly that he's able to bank his entire Tonight Show salary and live on the hefty fees he makes from his hectic personal appearance schedule. Leno's new salary is reportedly $27M-$30 million a year. He reportedly brings home another $15M-$20M a year from his other gigs.

Wow! The man's some sort of financial genius, being able to squeeze by on a mere 15 million a year!
 
2012-08-18 03:03:02 PM  

LectertheChef: AliceBToklasLives: MattyFridays: tenpoundsofcheese:

Nothing weird about it.
Maybe, like most really rich people, he does what he does because he really likes it. Not out of greed or the need to take fancy vacations. No different than Buffet or Gates or Jobs or Walton.


Jobs took vacations and breaks. Gates retired early. I'm not saying they shouldn't do what they love, but if you read the books, Leno leads an EXTREMELY spartan lifestyle (outside of the cars) and doesn't spend any money although he's made a metric ton of cash. Where is it all going, and what does he plan to do with it? No kids to pass it on to.

From what does Leno need to take a vacation? It's not like he wakes up in the morning, smacks the alarm and says "oh shiat, I gotta go out and tell a bunch of jokes!"

He may not be a Hollywood spender, but it's not like he lives in a one-bedroom apartment in the ghetto living off of Ramen noodles. While I know what I would do with, say, $5 million, I have no clue what I'd do with $100 million - is he supposed to spend it just 'cause it's there?

Yes, that's exactly what he's supposed to do. What's the point of holding onto it? He could start up his own boutique car company easily enough, or at least invest it in other people's companies. I'm sure EBR or Motus could use the cash infusion. It's actually weird that he doesn't do stuff like that, given that he's supposed to be such a gearhead. What would be cooler for a guy like that than to actually own a piece of a company that makes something you're really into?

But he doesn't. He just squirrels it away, buys exotic and classic cars and motorcycles, and that's about it.


I don't know this, but I imagine he does invest it - something tells me the dude doesn't have tens of millions buried in the back yard or in a local Wells Fargo account.

/There was a scene in Comedian where Seinfeld asked Leno why he didn't spend his TV money. Leno was worried something might go wrong - rainy day issue. So, yeah, that's a little excessive and weird.
 
2012-08-18 04:15:11 PM  
Leno also hosts a comedy show routine weekly Sunday nights at a small club in Hermosa Beach. EVERY FRICKING WEEK. Sold out too.

Saw Joe Rogan there, he talked smack about Leno's act on Sundays. Said something to the lines of "I'm not going to give you that old people s--t like Leno does here on Sundays."

The same club also had George Carlin perform various dates for a month for its anniversary -- and I am pissed I couldn't get in. Did get to see a special show put on by his daughter honoring him though shortly after his death.
 
2012-08-18 04:43:42 PM  

jmr61: Bbbbbuuuuttttt what about this guy?

[2.bp.blogspot.com image 233x354]

I know, he got canned two years ago.
Stern rules!



OK, not so much any more.


I thought he stopped doing the announcing but he still stayed on as a writer. Is this wrong?
 
2012-08-18 04:49:51 PM  

AliceBToklasLives:

I don't know this, but I imagine he does invest it - something tells me the dude doesn't have tens of millions buried in the back yard or in a local Wells Fargo account.

/There was a scene in Comedian where Seinfeld asked Leno why he didn't spend his TV money. Leno was worried something might go wrong - rainy day.


Yes, they touched on this in the War for Late Night books -- Leno's cheapness is sprung from the fact that he's terrified of a rainy day situation.

But ostensibly, all of the cars are bought and paid for. So are his homes. He's sixty two years old.

I'm not getting into how he spends his money, but the books emphasized how cheap he was. With only his wife, that struck me as odd. ESPECIALLY with how much he works.

For example, Carson took a TON of time off. He enjoyed his life, and when he retired, that was it. He made a couple of spot TV appearances, and that's it.

I swear, Leno is going to work until the day he dies. With nothing to show for it except for a bank account that goes to his wife.
 
2012-08-18 05:07:12 PM  
Leno can afford to personally pay the salaries of the people he's laid off. Other hosts have done it.
 
2012-08-18 05:07:13 PM  

UCFRoadWarrior: DubyaHater: If Conan was there, it would have been 80%. He sucks. Comedian my ass.

Not too loud...the 12 people or so that actually watch the Conan CrapFest on TBS seem to be on Fark

Leno leads the late nite talk shows....before and after ConanTastrophy....Conan killed the Tonight Show with his crap schtick and porta-potty bottom looks.

Seems like Comcast is cutting everywhere at NBC...Leno's show has a large staff...and it is the only revenue-producer at the network now


I find it impossible that someone could be as diehard a Leno fan as you. I can see how certain people think he's alright or a decent way to pass the time before going to bed, but what is it about him that you just absolutely love?
 
2012-08-18 05:07:59 PM  

FirstNationalBastard: If he had just retired quietly with dignity in 2009, NBC wouldn't be in the ratings basement in the first place.


Such bullshiat.

A network's prime time schedule's success has little or nothing to do with their late night lineup. FOX has absolutely no late night programming and they're doing better than NBC.

Even with experiment with Leno at 10pm didn't really affect things there: NBC's normal programming at that hour was middling to poor ratings-wise at best. More Dateline anyone?

You don't like Leno, we get it. But don't lie to yourself and us.
 
2012-08-18 05:18:36 PM  

UCFRoadWarrior: DubyaHater: If Conan was there, it would have been 80%. He sucks. Comedian my ass.

Not too loud...the 12 people or so that actually watch the Conan CrapFest on TBS seem to be on Fark

Leno leads the late nite talk shows....before and after ConanTastrophy....Conan killed the Tonight Show with his crap schtick and porta-potty bottom looks.

Seems like Comcast is cutting everywhere at NBC...Leno's show has a large staff...and it is the only revenue-producer at the network now


McDonalds sells the most burgers. So what? Leno was a dick for committing to retiring from NBC and then reneging on it, and I'm sure he doesn't give a crap about what I have to say when he can wipe is ass with 100 dollar bills.
 
2012-08-18 05:19:24 PM  
This is the first I've ever heard of Leno being cheap. When he comes to Monterey he stays at top of the line places, dines at great restaurants, tips very well, and usually buys a couple cars.

Actually, I wonder if he's in town now... Concours is tomorrow.
 
2012-08-18 05:22:35 PM  

12349876: McDonalds sells the most burgers. So what? Leno NBC was a dick for committing to retiring from NBC trying to push Leno out to keep Conan during contract negotiations .

.

Learn some history.
 
2012-08-18 05:23:45 PM  

peterthx: 12349876: McDonalds sells the most burgers. So what? Leno NBC was a dick for committing to retiring from NBC trying to push Leno out to keep Conan during contract negotiations ..

Learn some history.


Leno went along with it. He should have grown some balls and said "NO WAI MOTHERFARKERS"
 
2012-08-18 05:37:24 PM  

delfinparis: No Hero tag?


Only if Leno agreed to step down.

/no talent ass clown
 
2012-08-18 05:56:27 PM  

MattyFridays: steamingpile: As much as I wanted to hate Leno when he first got the job the fact is he's a genuinely nice guy.

Have you read either of the books on the War for Late Night?

What I pulled away from that is Leno's "nice guy" attitude is nothing more than a facade. He's a very complicated and very weird guy.

What really freaked me out is that he and his wife have no kids and he's not particularly close to his family. Yet he makes TONS of dough... but NEVER takes vacations and never spends it, except on the cars.

That's... weird.


I don't think it's weird at all that he doesn't travel. During his time as a standup, I'm sure there were times he'd spend 250-300 days a year on the road.

After putting up with that for a few years, I don't blame him if the last thing he ever wants to see is another hotel room.
 
2012-08-18 06:10:29 PM  

Lor M. Ipsum: That time slot wasn't for Conan anyway. His humor is too quirky and nerdy for mainstream. It would have been a disaster if he pandered to the lowest common denominator.


This! Conan is very popular with the 20 and 30 year olds. His quirkiness and nerdiness appeals to the younger crowd. Leno is popular with older people which I think the article mentions, I'm not totally sure.

Plus, Neilson ratings are only good for those who watch TV on the TV and a lot of younger viewers are watching TV online now. While older people usually watch TV on th regular set. So I think Conan does well for his demographic, but not for the usual NBC crowd. And Leno does well for the usual late night NBC crowd.
 
2012-08-18 06:21:04 PM  
Meanwhile, in Los Angeles...

i167.photobucket.com Vengeance is mine! 
 
2012-08-18 07:19:08 PM  

skykid: UCFRoadWarrior

Leno leads the late nite talk shows....before and after ConanTastrophy....Conan killed the Tonight Show with his crap schtick and porta-potty bottom looks.



Dude I mean we all know you're a troll in these late night threads but for the last time Big Jaw is not going to fark you simply because you are not a 1920 Ford Model-T.


No troll....just the facts. You Conan Holers try to make the unfunny and unappealing Conan look like some hero who got robbed. He got canned from NBC because he was a farking a-hole towards the network when his show started tanking. His a-hole publicist started sliming Leno all over the place...and that was it with NBC

And thats the facts. Look at those Conan ratings drop
 
2012-08-18 07:39:58 PM  

jmr61: Bbbbbuuuuttttt what about this guy?

[2.bp.blogspot.com image 233x354]

I know, he got canned two years ago.
Stern rules!



OK, not so much any more.


Came to see if that studdering idiot still had a job.
 
2012-08-18 07:49:13 PM  

AliceBToklasLives: I don't know this, but I imagine he does invest it - something tells me the dude doesn't have tens of millions buried in the back yard or in a local Wells Fargo account.


I went into a Wells Fargo one time to close a joint account. I hadn't been in the bank more than twice in the 6 years we had an account. I was able to get all the money , in cash, and close the account without showing any ID at all.
Might be a lot of money to be had, closing accounts of Hollywood stars.
 
2012-08-18 08:02:13 PM  
UCFRoadWarrior:
No troll....just the facts. You Conan Holers try to make the unfunny and unappealing Conan look like some hero who got robbed. He got canned from NBC because he was a farking a-hole towards the network when his show started tanking. His a-hole publicist started sliming Leno all over the place...and that was it with NBC


Bullshiat.

Conan got canned from NBC because Big Jaw sucked balls in primetime and NBC needed an excuse to keep Leno employed or risk having to pay him a massive penalty fee.

It's all detailed in Bill Carter's book.

And thats the facts. Look at those Conan ratings drop

You mean those ratings that are "dropping" so much Turner just renewed Conan until 2014?
 
2012-08-18 08:35:09 PM  

stoli n coke: MattyFridays: steamingpile: As much as I wanted to hate Leno when he first got the job the fact is he's a genuinely nice guy.

Have you read either of the books on the War for Late Night?

What I pulled away from that is Leno's "nice guy" attitude is nothing more than a facade. He's a very complicated and very weird guy.

What really freaked me out is that he and his wife have no kids and he's not particularly close to his family. Yet he makes TONS of dough... but NEVER takes vacations and never spends it, except on the cars.

That's... weird.

I don't think it's weird at all that he doesn't travel. During his time as a standup, I'm sure there were times he'd spend 250-300 days a year on the road.

After putting up with that for a few years, I don't blame him if the last thing he ever wants to see is another hotel room.


I didn't mean vacations in that he doesn't travel. I mean vacations in "stopping working". When he's not doing the Tonight Show, he's touring, playing Reno, AC, Vegas, etc. The guy never stops working. That's what I found odd. He makes all this money but doesn't seem to enjoy it.
 
2012-08-18 08:39:37 PM  

UCFRoadWarrior:
No troll....just the facts. You Conan Holers try to make the unfunny and unappealing Conan look like some hero who got robbed. He got canned from NBC because he was a farking a-hole towards the network when his show started tanking. His a-hole publicist started sliming Leno all over the place...and that was it with NBC

And thats the facts. Look at those Conan ratings drop


How did you come to this conclusion?

I don't think Conan got robbed - the only thing Conan got robbed of was his pride - because he was losing the tonight show - but the ideas that NBC was throwing around (Leno for a 1/2 hour at 11:30, Conan for an hour at 12, and then Fallon at 1) was FARKING INSANE.

This entire situation was a powerplay first initiated by Conan that bit him on the ass twice - once when NBC farked him by putting Jay on at 10 and then NBC farking him by putting Jay in instead of trying to let him grow his show like they did THE FIRST TIME AROUND.
 
2012-08-18 09:28:19 PM  

jake_lex: LectertheChef: So according to the article, it's not about ratings or ad revenue, but Comcast being supremely greedy farkers. Yet somehow it's Jay Leno's fault?

This story really shows the larger problem with our economy: this isn't being done because the show is losing money, it's being done becauseit's not profitable enough. So people are getting fired to squeeze a few more dollars out of what is already a cash cow for them.

But, hey, we gotta give those job creators lots of tax breaks, amirite?


If there is one thing I've learned in the world of online "debate" in the last two years, it is that you cannot ever question the profit motive among even more-or-less sane and rational people. To even suggest that it is somehow immoral for those few very, very successful people or companies to squeeze out higher and higher profits, year after year, at the expense of both the number of people out of work and the wages of those people who do work, is just considered completely beyond the pale.

We live in a nation of brainwashed people, "useless idiots" to the monied elite.
 
2012-08-18 09:29:28 PM  

mat catastrophe: jake_lex: LectertheChef: So according to the article, it's not about ratings or ad revenue, but Comcast being supremely greedy farkers. Yet somehow it's Jay Leno's fault?

This story really shows the larger problem with our economy: this isn't being done because the show is losing money, it's being done becauseit's not profitable enough. So people are getting fired to squeeze a few more dollars out of what is already a cash cow for them.

But, hey, we gotta give those job creators lots of tax breaks, amirite?

If there is one thing I've learned in the world of online "debate" in the last two years, it is that you cannot ever question the profit motive among even more-or-less sane and rational people. To even suggest that it is somehow immoral for those few very, very successful people or companies to squeeze out higher and higher profits, year after year, at the expense of both the number of people out of work and the wages of those people who do work, is just considered completely beyond the pale.

We live in a nation of brainwashed people, "useless idiots" to the monied elite.


Hmm. That should have read "useful idiots", but somehow it is still incredibly appropriate.
 
2012-08-18 10:28:07 PM  

MattyFridays: UCFRoadWarrior:
No troll....just the facts. You Conan Holers try to make the unfunny and unappealing Conan look like some hero who got robbed. He got canned from NBC because he was a farking a-hole towards the network when his show started tanking. His a-hole publicist started sliming Leno all over the place...and that was it with NBC

And thats the facts. Look at those Conan ratings drop

How did you come to this conclusion?

I don't think Conan got robbed - the only thing Conan got robbed of was his pride - because he was losing the tonight show - but the ideas that NBC was throwing around (Leno for a 1/2 hour at 11:30, Conan for an hour at 12, and then Fallon at 1) was FARKING INSANE.

This entire situation was a powerplay first initiated by Conan that bit him on the ass twice - once when NBC farked him by putting Jay on at 10 and then NBC farking him by putting Jay in instead of trying to let him grow his show like they did THE FIRST TIME AROUND.


The grand irony was that the entire convoluted scenario was deliberately contrived to avoid a fiasco, but every aspect of the plan failed completely and made things worse.

There were at least three mistakes in the conception of the deal. One, Conan may have thought that Letterman's career was some kind of template he could expect to follow. Do the 12:30 show for a decade then move up to 11:30. Who's to say that wasn't a completely unique situation with Letterman? There was no 12:30 show before Letterman did it. Two, the idea Leno would retire was delusional. Why would he? He's committed to his job so much that he really could do it till he drops. Three, the transition period was too long. Who plans television five years ahead? A city can have a five year plan for building streets but you don't presume to know who the construction workers are going to be. The transition should have been one year, take it or leave it, and that either would have motivated Leno to actually retire (or move) or it would have motivated Leno to say no and Conan would have moved. NBC wanted to keep both and the only success they can claim from the deal is that they did maintain their profitable status quo for five more years, and they did also manage a smooth transition from Conan to Fallon.
 
2012-08-18 10:34:23 PM  
Real late to the thread, but why does one Farker in particular find so many issues with Jay Leno? Personally I don't care for him, but if Jay doesn't want to have children or is a spendthrift or doesn't take vacations like you think, or he doesn't stop "working" and you think he doesn't enjoy his money, why is that odd or matters? Why does he have to conform to an ideal picture of a normal person?

At least Jay Leno wasn't doing things like Letterman, who cheated on his wife by farking an intern and then got blackmailed for it.
 
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