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2012-08-18 03:57:14 PM

steamingpile: filter: steamingpile: Krymson Tyde: Deslidified for his and her pleasure

Thank you, its too early for slideshows.

All those average daily wages in eastern European nations kind of scare me.

They should. They are coming to America.

That's not what scares me but then someone has to spin this, you should be more worried about a war there than those wages coming here.


A war in eastern Europe? Do have any particular scenario in mind?
 
2012-08-18 04:00:53 PM

Caeldan: I don't get the kvetching about the slideshow in this case?
It doesn't cause a full page reload (those slideshows can rot in hell), and the slide takes up the bulk of the 'above the fold' section of the page...

It's actually more efficient to view it this way than it would as a single page.

My only improvement would be an intro table with links for an easy jump to a specific country.


That was my thought as well. It loads instantly. All you have to do is keep your pointer in the same position and just click after you've read the relevant info and a pic. I get the full-page slideshow hate (oh believe me, I do) but you people are too b*tchy for your own good.
 
2012-08-18 04:05:29 PM

miss diminutive: [www.bloomberg.com image 640x425]

Gas prices don't bother me as much as the article using a damn moose for our picture. Almost every other country got a stunning picture of a skyline, people or landscape...but us? Canada in a nutshell: a farking moose.

/white Canadian people problems


my thoughts exactly. although it is a nice picture of a moose.
 
2012-08-18 04:13:01 PM
So now Fark thinks high gas prices are a good thing instead of droning on about EBIL SPEKULATURS and MUH OIL COMPANY PROFITS?
 
2012-08-18 04:20:55 PM

Z-clipped: You brought the subsidies up with regard to Chavez.


Kind of a stretch since I referenced the country in general, but OK. Still not seeing where it matters if he originated them.

We're you not intending to imply that they existed as a result of collusion between his administration and the oil companies?

Huh? The whole oil industry there is owned by the state. How do you collude with yourself?

Also, that was one of the most cringe-inducing uses of an apostrophe I've ever seen.

Because your post certainly reads that way. Though, upon a second look I must confess that your post is so glib, I may be crediting it with more substance than it deserves.

On some topics, substance isn't worth the effort. Sure you can spend an hour debunking a creationist, but it's easier to make fun of them since they aren't going to absorb any information, anyway.

Gosh, you mean to say that politics and societies are related somehow? What a stunning insight, thank you.

You're the one who seemed to deny that and caused me to point and laugh.

It means that the subsidies stem directly from the government's reactions to the social expectations of the people, not from the government manipulating those expectations for its own benefit or the benefit of a few large corporations, (which is more in line with what happens in the US). I'm sorry if that distinction is too subtle for you.

That's hilarious.

You have an interesting definition of "rational". I suppose if you're willing to ignore issue of the ultimately flawed initial social and cultural climate and accept it as a given, you might be able to consider blind greed and unchecked consumption of a finite resource with no thought of the welfare of future generations to be rational. But your head would have to be pretty firmly planted up your... ahem, in the sand to do so.

Yes, that's the rational way to handle such circumstances.

Conservatives love to demonize Venezuela but I think they're secretly envious.

I think such things are best represented in population movement. How many Americans are immigrating there, and how many of them are (or are at least trying) to come here?

I think nearly half of Americans would be as happy as pigs in shiat if gas was $.09/gal and food was scarce.

Don't give them any more ideas.

Just think of it: your own personal armored assault vehicle to tear up and down the crumbing highways in, and free reign to use your highly modified AR-15 to defend your stockpile of canned corn and Dinty Moore stew from the desperate, starving brown people. Every man a king in his castle. Sounds like the American Dream.

I'm sure if you had your way, we'd get there sooner or later.
 
2012-08-18 04:22:09 PM

GAT_00: Attention to gas prices has dramatically waned as a presidential campaign theme after the price of gasoline declined for 14 straight weeks after peaking in April.

What bullshiat is this? I paid $2.80 a month ago for gas. It's $3.44 now.


two weeks ago a can of Refried Beans was 85 cents. today it's $ 1.45. now that's expensive gas.
 
2012-08-18 04:25:30 PM
Creeping up to 4 bucks a gallon in Illinois. I hear people biatching, but look at these other countries...man...
 
2012-08-18 04:33:06 PM
Coming on a Bicycle
Enemabag Jones: Yes, but the US has a wider space so people have to drive everywhere. So it should still be cheaper. The same excuse is used for why our internet coverage is relatively weak and expensive.
/Ignoring that you may not need that suv or pickup, but whatever, people will whine about what they can.
The same argument is made as to why the US has lousy cellphone coverage, or no trains. To which I always say: look, Norway has about the same population density as the US. So how come they can and you can't?


Because corporate culture in Norway may worry more then just about the next quarter and the shareholders.

It is this sort of thinking in 20 to 40 years will make the US a second world nation.
 
2012-08-18 04:34:05 PM
Meh. Whatever about the gas prices.

Those photos, however... wow.
 
2012-08-18 04:36:19 PM

M0nkeyp0x: FTFA: Americans have little to complain about. They pay less than half the European price for gasoline and $1.15 per gallon below the world average.

Yeah, but we also have a shiatty public transit system in most parts of our country. Europe, not so much.


Public transit makes very little sense in many places. The Omaha metro area, for example, is two counties with approximately 1 million people. The counties do not have enought of a tax base to make it viable in one county and a lack of demand in another county. Public transit is only in one of the counties and the all lines do not run all day like thy do in places that have good public transit.

One cannot have a good job and a home in a good neighborhood with out a car here. Seriously, "Do you have independent transportation and a valid driver's license?" is on most premployment questionnaires.
 
2012-08-18 04:43:27 PM
The argument for rising gas prices as a way to dissuade Americans to drive less, get smaller cars or living in urban centers is akin to mass shootings dissuading Americans to buy less guns or stricter gun control.

It may sound logical but in reality almost always have the opposite effect.
 
2012-08-18 04:48:12 PM
how much is because of taxes and how low is it because of subsidies?
 
2012-08-18 04:54:11 PM

Z-clipped: And (theoretically) when your lifestyle conflicts with what's in the best interests of the rest of the people in the country, taxing certain behaviors allows the rest of us to recoup the negative impact of those behaviors. T


You mean like recouping the cost of treating HIV/AIDs or obesity related illnesses. You know stuff that is largely self inflicted through irresponsible behavior (granted there are a few exceptions)
 
2012-08-18 05:02:11 PM

Rip Dashrock: Eat More Possum: Our gas is about 15 lei a liter. That's 5$ a gallon in American

Five years ago, I would have thought $5 gallon gas was insane. Best deal in Los Angeles right now is about $4.05 a gallon at Arco's and other discount gas. Ironic that I am reading about it being a banner year for U.S. oil exports. 
Probably due to the fact that no new refineries are being built.


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The US is not a net exporter of oil, the US is a net exporter of refined petroleum products....big diff there.

Depending on who you believe, the US has too much refinery capacity because of the collapse of domestic gasoline demand, or the US doesn't have enough refinery capacity because the government will not allow any new refineries to be built.

I'm gonna go out on a limb and suggest the near virtual blockade of Iran by the USA is causing a severe worldwide oil shortage.
 
2012-08-18 05:04:34 PM

M0nkeyp0x: FTFA: Americans have little to complain about. They pay less than half the European price for gasoline and $1.15 per gallon below the world average.

Yeah, but we also have a shiatty nonexistent public transit system in most parts of our country. Europe, not so much.


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FIFY
 
2012-08-18 05:09:41 PM

miss diminutive: [www.bloomberg.com image 640x425]

Gas prices don't bother me as much as the article using a damn moose for our picture. Almost every other country got a stunning picture of a skyline, people or landscape...but us? Canada in a nutshell: a farking moose.

/white Canadian people problems


==============

Perhaps you would prefer a picture of a drunk doofus in a toque? Picture of a drunken hockey player? Picture of a drunken Eskimo......er, I mean First Nations type person? Picture of a drunken polar bear? Picture of a drunken......
 
2012-08-18 05:11:55 PM

Paris1127: I arrived in Australia a few weeks ago, and you can imagine my confusion when I saw the prices at gas stations like this one:
[farm4.static.flickr.com image 273x500]
At first glance, it appears that regular unleaded costs A$160.90 per liter... After inquiries, I was assured by my host that the sign actually says 160.9 cents... A$1.60 for a liter... Why not just say that? 

/might be funny to try this in the US, to see people's reactions
//"Dammit, Fartb0ng0 got his Ayrab friends to jack gas prices up to $160 a... a litre? WTF is a litre?"


Honestly I can't figure out of this is some sort of troll or not. You really had issues figuring out that sign? You thought that in AUS it might cost thousands of dollars to fill up a tank? Common sense.....please.
 
2012-08-18 05:12:42 PM
I call shenanigans on this headline. I was expecting to see some sort of chart, or ANYTHING really, that would support what the headline promised.

//Shame on you, subby. Smoke a turd.
//Just don't drive to far to get one without reading this article.
 
2012-08-18 05:16:18 PM

Daeva: ontariolightning: Daeva: Dear submitter, next time you feel like submitting a 63 slideshow article, don't.

That just makes me want to submit a 126 slideshow article

and welcome to ignore for both replying like a conceited fark and openly admitting your an asshole.


How are you so sure he's the submitter and not... you know, "joking"?

Daeva: hes on ignore but 10 bucks says he is so full of himself that he still replied directly to me already.


Your lies are as transparent as your grammar is poor.
 
2012-08-18 05:26:18 PM

steamingpile: filter: steamingpile: Krymson Tyde: Deslidified for his and her pleasure

Thank you, its too early for slideshows.

All those average daily wages in eastern European nations kind of scare me.

They should. They are coming to America.

That's not what scares me but then someone has to spin this, you should be more worried about a war there than those wages coming here.

Simple minded people always worried about the wrong issue.


============

Wages are low, but so are rents. People don't pay $10K property tax bills, and don't go bankrupt if they need to see a doctor. No, they don't have Escalades, or a dozen wireless devices, or guns for every member of the family like we have in good ol' 'Murica, so I guess they really are losers.
 
2012-08-18 05:27:03 PM

miss diminutive: [www.bloomberg.com image 640x425]

Gas prices don't bother me as much as the article using a damn moose for our picture. Almost every other country got a stunning picture of a skyline, people or landscape...but us? Canada in a nutshell: a farking moose.

/white Canadian people problems


I had the same thought.
You Canajuns really do get some goofy stereotypes.
But if it makes you feel any better, had they used the same logic for all the other countries, it would have been a fat guy inhaling a cheeseburger picture for us yanks.
 
2012-08-18 05:29:33 PM
Isn't Venezuela big on bio-fuels from sugar cane, too? Or is that Brazil?
 
2012-08-18 05:32:41 PM

danmarce: Ecuador...

$2 per gallon for the most expensive Gas...

But.... what definition of gallon are they using?


IIRC, when you see "mpg" figures for UK vehicles (an unusual measure), that's actually in Imperial gallons, not US. Imperial gallon is 20% larger, so the mpg metric will be 20% higher for the same vehicle.

Pretty sneaky problem when Googling for mpg.
 
2012-08-18 05:55:11 PM

miss diminutive: jehovahs witness protection: Please read the comments from that site and guess which one is from me.
Smug bike assholes think everybody on the planet can ride a bike to work, doctors, grocery stores and physical rehabilitation facilities.
People like that make me sick.

But what if it's one of those old-timey bikes with the massive front wheel and the tiny rear wheel? At least riding to all those places would be a blast.


================

Penny Farthings.
 
2012-08-18 06:11:35 PM

SafetyThird: Central Coast of California, pipelines all over the place and still the highest gas prices. $4.21 per gallon yesterday.


Thank the people in Sac-Town for that...

/the bay area and back down
//Cali's where they put their Mack down
///show me love
 
2012-08-18 07:22:13 PM

Gulper Eel: /wtf is going on in that slovakia cave picture?



Seconded - anyone know what that is?
 
2012-08-18 07:37:32 PM
In Florida gas was 2.90 a few weeks ago. Now it's 3.47. Went to Chicago where it's 4.25, 4.04 if you look. I still remember in Saudi Arabia it was .45 cents for regular and .55 for premium . I told the driver that gas in the US was about 10 riyals a liter, and he laughed so hard he almost fell. He told me if gas was that much there no one would drive and everyone would riot. Then he said why are Americans so dumb to pay that much. I told him we are just too passive. Also gas would have to be like 6 dollars for people to start caring at this rate.
 
2012-08-18 08:00:29 PM

Lt Los3r: In Florida gas was 2.90 a few weeks ago. Now it's 3.47. Went to Chicago where it's 4.25, 4.04 if you look. I still remember in Saudi Arabia it was .45 cents for regular and .55 for premium . I told the driver that gas in the US was about 10 riyals a liter, and he laughed so hard he almost fell. He told me if gas was that much there no one would drive and everyone would riot. Then he said why are Americans so dumb to pay that much. I told him we are just too passive. Also gas would have to be like 6 dollars for people to start caring at this rate.


Places where people pay market rates for gas, the price is somewhere around $3/gallon. Places where the price is higher, have high gas taxes in order to suppress demand and improve their trade balance. Venezuela and Saudi Arabia are subsidizing gas prices.
 
2012-08-18 08:42:57 PM
I'm in South Korea and gas prices are ridiculous here. Myths fully insurance and public transportation is really cheap because my car usually sits in the basement unless I'm going to Costco or visiting the in-laws. It's always a treat to go back to the States because I feel like I can drive just about anywhere and filling up the car is only a small inconvenience.
 
2012-08-18 09:20:46 PM

hasty ambush: farkityfarker: smimmy: $0.09....Venezuela..................#60

Ah, now I see why the US corporate complex hates Chavez so much.

All that profit he's denying them by not letting them get their hands on that oil and sell it at a huge profit.

No lot of countries , even oil rich ones subsidize gasoline to hold the retail cost down.


Venezuela loses $1.5 bln a year in gasoline subsidy

"Rather than raise prices, the government is trying to reduce internal fuel consumption.

"We have to start to reduce gasoline use. Venezuelan gasoline is the cheapest in the world," Chavez said. "The government subsidizes 90 percent of that fuel's real cost.""



Subsidize the cost of fuel, and they expect demand to go down?!

Freshman-level Economics must have been a bit too much for young Hugo.
 
2012-08-18 09:33:35 PM

Z-clipped: Behavior control... in the form of higher initial taxes on gasoline, coupled with investment in public transit instead of throwing all the money at an interstate highway system. It would have kept more people and companies in the cities and discouraged urban sprawl. Also, the government stepping in to prevent Standard Oil and GM from killing urban light rail would have been nice.


God bless them both for sparing me this fate:

3.bp.blogspot.com

totallytop10.com
 
2012-08-18 10:05:24 PM
BigNumber12
Subsidize the cost of fuel, and they expect demand to go down?


Why not? It's not like he claims that higher subsidies will result in lower demand.
People aren't buying and burning that stuff just for fun and price isn't the only thing that influences consumption.
For example, maybe they burn oil to generate electricity: if they replace an oil-powered power plant with one that uses a different source of energy, they have decreased consumption while keeping the price for oil low. 

Heck, aren't people biatching about high gas prices because they pretty much have to drive anyway and will rather cut other things to still be able to drive to work?
Higher prices might make people buy a more fuel-efficient car the next time and reduce consumption that way, but you can get the same result with a tax on inefficient cars or by simply outlawing them.
 
2012-08-18 10:29:19 PM

StoneColdAtheist: bugmn99: [cache.gawkerassets.com image 500x365]

What are these "gas prices" of which you speak?

LOL...when I was a kid in Kenya, we called that a "Ugandan Credit Card".



Barack? Is that you?
 
2012-08-18 11:05:40 PM
I just came here to read about Venezuela.

It's funny that its mentioned there, yes, we have really cheap gas, its been that way for over 3 decades. It's not a Hugo Chavez thing. Keep in mind, that if gas prices in venezuela would go up there would be riots, last government who tried that in 89' got massive rioting and looting.

And is not because of the "wealthy", rich venezuelans can afford the price hike; if the price where to go up Mass Transit (Based on privately owned buses, not government) would raise prices by A LOT. Food prices would go up as well.

I'm not defending the measure of subsidy, however venezuela DO has the biggest oil reserves in the world, so yes, venezuelans think its a human right down there.

/Venezuelan
//Used to live there for 28 years
///Moved to the us 8 months ago
 
2012-08-18 11:48:25 PM

BMFPitt: Huh? The whole oil industry there is owned by the state. How do you collude with yourself?


So, increased consumption by Venezuelans increases profit for state-owned oil companies, resulting in less available export for US companies to buy. Oh look, you just contradicted your original rebuttal of farkityfarker's point. Welcome back to where we started.

BMFPitt: Also, that was one of the most cringe-inducing uses of an apostrophe I've ever seen.


Wow, your right. Thank's for pointing out my mi'stake.

BMFPitt: On some topics, substance isn't worth the effort. Sure you can spend an hour debunking a creationist, but it's easier to make fun of them since they aren't going to absorb any information, anyway.


It's also great for maintaining your sense of superiority when you can't actually rebut an argument...

BMFPitt: It means that the subsidies stem directly from the government's reactions to the social expectations of the people, not from the government manipulating those expectations for its own benefit or the benefit of a few large corporations, (which is more in line with what happens in the US). I'm sorry if that distinction is too subtle for you.

That's hilarious.


...Yup.

BMFPitt: I think such things are best represented in population movement.


That's idiotic and hilariously oversimplified.

How many Americans are immigrating there, and how many of them are (or are at least trying) to come here?

I recently moved to the Philippines from the US. So I guess that means that I was envious of the economic situation of the average Filipino? Or perhaps population movement is more complex than you're implying, and is actually a terrible metric for determining people's political views?

BMFPitt: Don't give them any more ideas.


Given their choice of presidential candidates this election cycle (and the entire Republican economic platform for most of my lifetime), I think it's clear that they have the idea firmly in mind already.

BMFPitt: Just think of it: your own personal armored assault vehicle to tear up and down the crumbing highways in, and free reign to use your highly modified AR-15 to defend your stockpile of canned corn and Dinty Moore stew from the desperate, starving brown people. Every man a king in his castle. Sounds like the American Dream.

I'm sure if you had your way, we'd get there sooner or later.


Right, because advocating that living in cities and walking to work is a more sustainable way to live is exactly in line with that idea. Implying that beginning to ween people off a philosophy of rampant consumption and greed and away from urban sprawl by incentivizing reduced energy use with higher gas taxes will obviously lead to plummeting prices at the pump, food scarcity, and no money for infrastructure or public services. Just like it did in the EU, Sweden, and Australia.

You've become boring. Lazy and smug with nothing of substance to say is no way to go through life, son.
 
2012-08-19 12:06:22 AM

BigNumber12: StoneColdAtheist: LOL...when I was a kid in Kenya, we called that a "Ugandan Credit Card".

Barack? Is that you?


LOL, we did live for a while about 20 km from his father's home village. It was too hot down on the shores of Lake Victoria, though, so we moved north up into the highlands where it was cooler.

I never did learn to speak Dholuo (think tonal language like Mandarin Chinese), but when we moved north I learned Luhya straight away. Bantu languages are about as hard for English speakers to learn as Spanish is. There are no cognates, but the grammar and structure are very straight forward, and there are no sounds in Bantu languages that we don't have in English.
 
2012-08-19 12:30:32 AM

hasty ambush: God bless them both for sparing me this fate:


LOL. You couldn't miss the point any harder if you tried. Enjoy driving 50 miles to and from work alone in your car each day. I'm sure it will never become too expensive for you to do that.

hasty ambush: You mean like recouping the cost of treating HIV/AIDs


Wait, are you suggesting that HIV is a "gay disease"? Seriously? I didn't realize it was still 1984 in Trollville, USA.

And in answer to your rather stupid example, the government already funds programs to make condoms cheap or free for anyone who wants them, because they are the most effective way we have to prevent people from getting HIV. So yes, that a perfect example of incentivizing a socially beneficial behavior using tax dollars..

I'll bet it just burns you up that you pay taxes so that poor people can have sex with each other without becoming fatally ill, right? I mean, it couldn't possibly benefit you personally to ensure that fewer of your potential partners are HIV positive. We also teach sex education in schools now. Your taxes pay for that too. What a farking outrage!

hasty ambush: obesity related illnesses.


Well, I can pretty much guarantee that as fuel prices go up relative to income, the number of fat people will go down.
 
2012-08-19 12:36:38 AM

UGOTPZD: Paris1127: I arrived in Australia a few weeks ago, and you can imagine my confusion when I saw the prices at gas stations like this one:
[farm4.static.flickr.com image 273x500]
At first glance, it appears that regular unleaded costs A$160.90 per liter... After inquiries, I was assured by my host that the sign actually says 160.9 cents... A$1.60 for a liter... Why not just say that? 

/might be funny to try this in the US, to see people's reactions
//"Dammit, Fartb0ng0 got his Ayrab friends to jack gas prices up to $160 a... a litre? WTF is a litre?"

Honestly I can't figure out of this is some sort of troll or not. You really had issues figuring out that sign? You thought that in AUS it might cost thousands of dollars to fill up a tank? Common sense.....please.


Notice the part about "first glance." I had my suspicions that it was in cents, but I decided to confirm. I've never seen a sign like that before.
 
2012-08-19 12:45:00 AM

Z-clipped: So, increased consumption by Venezuelans increases profit for state-owned oil companies, resulting in less available export for US companies to buy. Oh look, you just contradicted your original rebuttal of farkityfarker's point. Welcome back to where we started.


Oh look, you didn't understand what I said because math hurts your brain. Increased consumption by Venezuelans reduces profit for their state-owned oil company because they lose money on every gallon of gas sold to Venezuelans. But the point I was making to farkityfarker is that the higher domestic demand causes the state run company to have less exports, thus making the "evil" oil companies not run by Venezuela more profitable.

It's also great for maintaining your sense of superiority when you can't actually rebut an argument...

Maybe for you, but I only use it in the circumstances described above.

That's idiotic and hilariously oversimplified.

I would consider it the gold standard of comparing countries. So you're suggesting a better metric, then? Does it involve just making stuff up?

Given their choice of presidential candidates this election cycle (and the entire Republican economic platform for most of my lifetime), I think it's clear that they have the idea firmly in mind already.

It's funny because you think Republicans and Democrats are different.

Right, because advocating that living in cities and walking to work is a more sustainable way to live is exactly in line with that idea. Implying that beginning to ween people off a philosophy of rampant consumption and greed and away from urban sprawl by incentivizing reduced energy use with higher gas taxes will obviously lead to plummeting prices at the pump, food scarcity, and no money for infrastructure or public services. Just like it did in the EU, Sweden, and Australia.

If by some odd chance you actually think that's what I said, you're beyond help.
 
2012-08-19 12:52:28 AM

Paris1127: Notice the part about "first glance." I had my suspicions that it was in cents, but I decided to confirm. I've never seen a sign like that before.


That's odd. They use the same format for gas prices in the US:

image.shutterstock.com
 
2012-08-19 12:54:51 AM

miss diminutive: [www.bloomberg.com image 640x425]

Gas prices don't bother me as much as the article using a damn moose for our picture. Almost every other country got a stunning picture of a skyline, people or landscape...but us? Canada in a nutshell: a farking moose.

/white Canadian people problems


møøse bites Kan be pretty nasti...
 
2012-08-19 01:37:13 AM

BMFPitt: It's funny because you think Republicans and Democrats are different.


First of all, I never said anything like this, but please, do go on telling me what else I think. It's much more entertaining than attempting to parse whatever your point is.

Second, I think that liberals and conservatives are very different, and that conservatives are attempting to maintain a status quo regarding the subject at hand that is unsustainable, and that the Republican party which represents most of those conservatives has gone to abhorrent lengths to convince their constituency to reject any evidence of such.

Third, I have no illusions that Democrats are liberal. Their social agenda could be described as moderate to progressive, but they are solidly economically conservative, and are just as big a bunch of corporate whores as their opponents They are, however, very different from Republicans in their approach to their goals, and to suggest that "both sides are bad", therefore they are equally bad, therefore they are the same, is such a tired cliche that I'm not even going to address it.

BMFPitt: I would consider it the gold standard of comparing countries.


LOL, ok. For comparing exactly what about countries? Everything? (Not that this digression is even remotely applicable to the point I was making about the irony of conservative Americans seeing Venezuela as some kind of demonic philosophical antithesis to their own lifestyle, but I think it's such a stupid, jingoistic generalization that it would be entertaining to watch your contortions as you try to defend it.) What exactly do you think is the main reason for people immigrating to the US? Where do you think most immigrants to the US come from? How many of them do you think are poor people from Venezuela (or Venezuelan at all, for that matter)?

BMFPitt: If by some odd chance you actually think that's what I said, you're beyond help.


Right. Of course. How could I ever have gotten that impression?...

BMFPitt: Just think of it: your own personal armored assault vehicle to tear up and down the crumbing highways in, and free reign to use your highly modified AR-15 to defend your stockpile of canned corn and Dinty Moore stew from the desperate, starving brown people. Every man a king in his castle. Sounds like the American Dream.

I'm sure if you had your way, we'd get there sooner or later.


Is someone else posting under your handle?
 
2012-08-19 02:42:12 AM

Z-clipped: Paris1127: Notice the part about "first glance." I had my suspicions that it was in cents, but I decided to confirm. I've never seen a sign like that before.

That's odd. They use the same format for gas prices in the US:

[image.shutterstock.com image 450x295]


I feel like all the gas station signs I've seen in the States have decimals... Or maybe my brain sees decimal points which are not there... I don't know anymore. I won't be able to confirm this until I return to the US in a few months...
 
2012-08-19 03:50:26 AM

Paris1127: I feel like all the gas station signs I've seen in the States have decimals... Or maybe my brain sees decimal points which are not there... I don't know anymore. I won't be able to confirm this until I return to the US in a few months...


There are a bunch of different conventions, and they get mixed around a lot.

Anyway, I'm living abroad right now too, so I understand what you're going through. Having to convert both units and currencies at a glance for a single transaction can cause some really weird double takes. In the Philippines they use both US and metric measurements for everything except temperature, with no real rhyme or reason at all.

Also, they use every "standard" size of paper imaginable, so I'll get A4 legal sized stuff from my bank, but my lease is printed on 8.5 x 14. My tests for some classes have to be taken on long bond, while my Physics lab reports have to be turned in on short bond (which is the same as letter, but not A4 letter), and my papers for my Comp class have to be handwritten on a US legal pad, but the printer at the library prints out A4 legal. For my student visa, I had to provide photos in two different sizes to two different offices, one in cm and one in inches.
 
2012-08-19 09:49:46 AM

Rocket To Russia: MC Magic Cracker: I click on the link, there's no goddamn list. It's a motherfarking slide show.

Ermahgerd! You'd have to push a button over 60 times! Nobody should have to suffer that much.


Good point -- #firstworldproblems and all, yeah. But the complaint really comes down to the fact that slideshows rarely justify themselves, and in cases like this are particularly vexatious.

A slideshow is justified by one of two things: too much data to fit comfortably even on a scrolling screen, or revolving data that you want to keep embedded within a gloss, without having to duplicate the gloss over and over. (Even though that would technically happen anyway during a slideshow refresh, the viewer should -- in theory, at least -- see it as a non-moving gloss. This is actually the best use of a slideshow, but I've seen it only very rarely, and rarely done when it is, as the gloss usually moves with the refreshed window frame, meaning the viewer has to manually reset it each slide -- which becomes very annoying very quickly.

In this particular case, the slideshow is a bad choice because what the viewer is most interested in is *comparative* data between discrete data sets: how much more or less are different countries paying, compared to each other. That gets harder when the data isn't on the same page.

As for #firstworldproblems, I agree completely that FirstWorlders are whiny when they complain for no reason -- and that they often do. But I feel it's legitimate to complain about petty annoyances if they keep recurring for no apparently good reason. I think we'll disagree about what's a valid complaint and what's just precious -- for example, I really don't give a crap which way people hold their phones to take video, as long as I can see what's going on -- but I'm not going to suggest that nothing short of your leg being bitten off by a tiger is valid to complain about.
 
2012-08-19 12:43:18 PM

StoneColdAtheist: BigNumber12: StoneColdAtheist: LOL...when I was a kid in Kenya, we called that a "Ugandan Credit Card".

Barack? Is that you?

LOL, we did live for a while about 20 km from his father's home village. It was too hot down on the shores of Lake Victoria, though, so we moved north up into the highlands where it was cooler.

I never did learn to speak Dholuo (think tonal language like Mandarin Chinese), but when we moved north I learned Luhya straight away. Bantu languages are about as hard for English speakers to learn as Spanish is. There are no cognates, but the grammar and structure are very straight forward, and there are no sounds in Bantu languages that we don't have in English.



Wild - what an experience to have had.
 
2012-08-19 01:19:02 PM

Daeva: ontariolightning: Daeva: Dear submitter, next time you feel like submitting a 63 slideshow article, don't.

That just makes me want to submit a 126 slideshow article

and welcome to ignore for both replying like a conceited fark and openly admitting your an asshole.


you're

As in, "You're an idiot."

Add me to your ignore list too. Thanks.
 
2012-08-19 08:51:51 PM

Z-clipped: hasty ambush: God bless them both for sparing me this fate:

LOL. You couldn't miss the point any harder if you tried. Enjoy driving 50 miles to and from work alone in your car each day. I'm sure it will never become too expensive for you to do that.

hasty ambush: You mean like recouping the cost of treating HIV/AIDs

Wait, are you suggesting that HIV is a "gay disease"? Seriously? I didn't realize it was still 1984 in Trollville, USA.

And in answer to your rather stupid example, the government already funds programs to make condoms cheap or free for anyone who wants them, because they are the most effective way we have to prevent people from getting HIV. So yes, that a perfect example of incentivizing a socially beneficial behavior using tax dollars..

I'll bet it just burns you up that you pay taxes so that poor people can have sex with each other without becoming fatally ill, right? I mean, it couldn't possibly benefit you personally to ensure that fewer of your potential partners are HIV positive. We also teach sex education in schools now. Your taxes pay for that too. What a farking outrage!


Well if go vernment funded condoms and education were the answer we would not need to be spending money trying to cure AIDS would we? Thrity percent of MEDICAID funding would not be going toward AIDS treatments.

It is amazing how common sense makes having sex a non-life threatening experience.

hasty ambush: obesity related illnesses.

Well, I can pretty much guarantee that as fuel prices go up relative to income, the number of fat people will go down.


No sign of that so far
 
2012-08-19 10:22:46 PM

Old Smokie: Here in Amerika we have cheap gas and have banned big engines. Go figure.


Who told big engines had been banned? The Dodge Viper has an 8.4 liter V10 engine. That's 509 cubic inches. Engines in US cars are bigger than they have been since the 1920s and more powerful than they have ever been.
 
2012-08-19 10:26:39 PM

Paris1127: I arrived in Australia a few weeks ago, and you can imagine my confusion when I saw the prices at gas stations like this one:
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At first glance, it appears that regular unleaded costs A$160.90 per liter... After inquiries, I was assured by my host that the sign actually says 160.9 cents... A$1.60 for a liter... Why not just say that? 

/might be funny to try this in the US, to see people's reactions
//"Dammit, Fartb0ng0 got his Ayrab friends to jack gas prices up to $160 a... a litre? WTF is a litre?"


3.8 liters = 1US gallon. So $1.60 per liter = $6.08 per gallon, but that's Australian dollars which at the current exchange rate equals US$6.30 per gallon.
 
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