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(Some Guy)   New York Times columnist suggests America's public policy should be more like Italy's, because that has been working so well   (danieljmitchell.wordpress.com) divider line 24
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2012-08-17 01:00:03 PM
Linking to "some guy" implies that the author is "somebody" but that is clearly not the case

Your blog sucks.
 
2012-08-17 01:00:39 PM
Oh and shiatty wordpress blog instagreen. Well played.
 
2012-08-17 01:02:04 PM
Why do bloggers hate America?
 
2012-08-17 01:02:37 PM
So is the entire article contained within the URL?
 
2012-08-17 01:04:40 PM
Every so often, you read something so ridiculously stupid and absurd that you assume that you're being pranked. So you look to the date of the article to see if it says April 1. Or you look at the Internet address to see if it's a parody of a real website.

That is all the time on Fark Politics Tab Freeper Week!
 
2012-08-17 01:05:29 PM
"Although he has enough credentials and credibility to get published by the New York Times, I shall refute his statements with uncited bare assertions on my blog and no doubt will convince everyone that I'm right and he's wrong."
 
2012-08-17 01:08:53 PM
since mitt romney is only paying 13% in tax, it is obvious taxes on the rich need to go up.
 
2012-08-17 01:09:35 PM
Long as I can get a moped, which I will ride around saying "ciao", I'm down for it. But I'm not moving back into my mother's house if I can help it.
 
2012-08-17 01:09:40 PM
This isn't going to get you laid either.
 
2012-08-17 01:09:43 PM
I think he's arguing that the US should be more like Italy insofar as Italy, like much of Western Europe, is less individualistic and hence more open to the pooling of resources to help others. He doesn't mean, let's have a corrupt government based on patronage, backdoor deals, money, and the organized crime. Because of course, THAT would never fly in Washington.
 
2012-08-17 01:11:12 PM
During our greatest period of economic success and prosperity, our top marginal tax rate was 90%.

Let that sink in for a while: 90%
 
2012-08-17 01:11:56 PM

Duke Phillips' Singing Bears: Long as I can get a moped, which I will ride around saying "ciao", I'm down for it. But I'm not moving back into my mother's house if I can help it.


Yeah, but think of all the trim you can get from American coeds.

American Women Studying In Europe Are Unbelievably Easy by Giovanni Di Salvi
 
2012-08-17 01:12:01 PM
way to miss the point of the NYT article

/your blog sucks
 
2012-08-17 01:13:35 PM
Why would anyone want $1 Million if the government is going to take some? Everyone knows it is better to make $18K a year and pay no income tax than it is to have to pay taxes on a million dollars.
 
2012-08-17 01:14:55 PM

Scaevola: I think he's arguing that the US should be more like Italy insofar as Italy, like much of Western Europe, is less individualistic and hence more open to the pooling of resources to help others.


Yup. If we want to become happier and more prosperous, we need to become more Socialist, including raising taxes and increasing the social safety net.

Or we can keep heading back to a feudal society, as we are, but I don't think that will work out well in the long run.
 
2012-08-17 01:16:05 PM

Rapmaster2000: Duke Phillips' Singing Bears: Long as I can get a moped, which I will ride around saying "ciao", I'm down for it. But I'm not moving back into my mother's house if I can help it.

Yeah, but think of all the trim you can get from American coeds.

American Women Studying In Europe Are Unbelievably Easy by Giovanni Di Salvi


Nobody tell him about American colleges/universities where the women are all locked up tighter than Mitt Romney's sphincter.
 
2012-08-17 01:17:10 PM
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Meet your new bunga bunga czar, America.
 
2012-08-17 01:20:24 PM

pacified: Why would anyone want $1 Million if the government is going to take some? Everyone knows it is better to make $18K a year and pay no income tax than it is to have to pay taxes on a million dollars.


LUCK DUCKY!
 
2012-08-17 01:24:31 PM
I hear Italians eat food and breath air. How's that working out for you, Tony?
 
2012-08-17 01:49:00 PM

Dwight_Yeast: During our greatest period of economic success and prosperity, our top marginal tax rate was 90%.

Let that sink in for a while: 90%


And capital gains taxes were much lower than income taxes at the time. Part of the tax dodge back then was to earn income that way.

Plus, America just got off its heels of winning World War II, and one of the biggest spoils of war is the economic advantages it gets - namely, our country didn't get bombed to high heaven and villages/cities were not rampaged from constant fighting. So other countries spent decades rebuilding so it could be back to having an industrialized, competitive economy while the US could be the world's machine shop. So it was able to survive such staggering rates - when other countries started to catch up and be competitive again, our country suffered and had to start cutting the top tax rates down.
 
2012-08-17 03:20:51 PM

Deftoons: And capital gains taxes were much lower than income taxes at the time. Part of the tax dodge back then was to earn income that way.


They still are, and some would (especially nowadays) argue that it still is.
 
2012-08-17 08:43:58 PM
Devil's Advocate time:

Italy still exists as a nation, despite having totally unstable lunatics vying unsuccessfully for power for years on end (of recalls and by-elections), and total economic devastation (including collapse of their auto sector).

Maybe the columnist sees this as the new normal for the USA after November, and sees Italy's continued existence as a testament to very effective policy for a nation perpetually in crisis. Not just hyped-up manufactured crisis, but serious balls-to-the-wall flaming trainwreck crisis.

In that case, the argument for the Italian policies might be very wise.
 
2012-08-17 09:45:50 PM

Dwight_Yeast: During our greatest period of economic success and prosperity, our top marginal tax rate was 90%.

Let that sink in for a while: 90%


During our most rapid period of economic growth, we didn't have an income tax. Wow. Think about that. And the rest of the world wasn't in shambles during that period either.
 
2012-08-17 09:50:06 PM

Dwight_Yeast: During our greatest period of economic success and prosperity, our top marginal tax rate was 90%.

Let that sink in for a while: 90%


And during the period you are talking about, we werent burdened by the the economy crushing costs of the great society. Maybe if we got rid of Medicaid and welfare and stopped throwing so much money down the hole on social programs, we can return to that magical era of prosperity.

Or, perhaps, we shouldn't act like idiots and pretend that correlation equals causation.
 
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