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(Rolling Stone)   Paul Ryan: My favorite band is Rage Against the Machine. Guitarist: That's like Charles Manson saying his favorite band is the Beatles   (rollingstone.com) divider line 349
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2012-08-17 11:47:27 AM
well, Zack de la Rocha is a huge communist.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Political_views_and_activism_of_Rage_Aga i nst_the_Machine
 
2012-08-17 11:48:58 AM
This is the kind of vile, disgusting comparison that lowers the bar yet again and turns everyone involved into a bunch of poo-flinging monkeys solely bent on denigrating the other side.
I mean, the Beatles were a good band.
 
2012-08-17 11:50:09 AM

SlothB77: well, Zack de la Rocha is a huge communist.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Political_views_and_activism_of_Rage_Aga i nst_the_Machine


I'd be shocked if he wasn't. That's what this whole thread is about, basically.
 
2012-08-17 11:51:51 AM
At the Coachella 2007 performance, De la Rocha made an impassioned speech during "Wake Up", citing a statement by Noam Chomsky regarding the Nuremberg Trials and subsequent actions by US presidents,[17] as follows:

" A good friend of ours once said that if the same laws were applied to U.S. presidents as were applied to the Nazis after World War II [...] every single one of them, every last rich white one of them from Truman on, would have been hung to death and shot-and this current administration is no exception. They should be hung, and tried, and shot. As any war criminal should be.[38] "

A clip of Zack's speech found its way to the Fox News program Hannity & Colmes. An on-screen headline read, "Rock group Rage Against the Machine says Bush admin should be shot." Ann Coulter, a conservative commentator and a guest on the show, stated, "They're losers, their fans are losers, and there's a lot of violence coming from the left wing."[39] Commentator Alan Colmes then challenged Coulter for having said of Bill Clinton, "The only issue is whether to impeach or assassinate,"[40] referring to her 1998 book in which she wrote, "Otherwise there would be debates only about whether to impeach or assassinate."[41]

On July 28 and 29, Rage co-headlined the hip hop festival Rock the Bells. On July 28, they made a speech during their performance of "Wake Up" just as they had done at Coachella. During this, De La Rocha made another statement, defending the band from Fox News whom he claimed had misquoted him:

" A couple of months ago, those fascist motherfarkers at the Fox News Network attempted to pin this band into a corner by suggesting that we said that the president should be assassinated. Nah, what we said was that he should be brought to trial as a war criminal and hung and shot. THAT'S what we said. And we don't back away from the position because the real assassinator [sic] is Bush, and Cheney and the whole administration for the lives they have destroyed here and in Iraq. They're the ones. And what they refused to air which was far more provocative in my mind and in the minds of my bandmates is this: that this system has become so brutal and vicious and cruel that it needs to start wars and profit from the destruction around the world in order to survive as a world power. THAT's what we said. And we refuse not to stand up, we refuse [not] to back down from that position...[42]
 
2012-08-17 11:54:35 AM

St_Francis_P: SlothB77: well, Zack de la Rocha is a huge communist.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Political_views_and_activism_of_Rage_Aga i nst_the_Machine

I'd be shocked if he wasn't. That's what this whole thread is about, basically.


just informing the ignorant.
 
2012-08-17 11:56:10 AM

SlothB77: St_Francis_P: SlothB77: well, Zack de la Rocha is a huge communist.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Political_views_and_activism_of_Rage_Aga i nst_the_Machine

I'd be shocked if he wasn't. That's what this whole thread is about, basically.

just informing the ignorant.


Everyone here knows. You really need to inform Ryan.
 
2012-08-17 12:00:10 PM
Not RATM but the sentiment's the same

Restless soul, enjoy your youth
Like muhammad hits the truth
Can't escape from the common rule
If you hate something, don't you do it too...too...
Small my table, a sits just two
Got so crowded, i can't make room
Oh, where did they come from? stormed my room!
And you dare say it belongs to you...to you...
This is not for you
This is not for you
This is not for you
Oh, not for you...ah, you...
...scream...my friends...don't call me...
...friends, no they don't scream...
...my friends don't call...my friends don't...
All that's sacred comes from youth
Dedication, naive and true
With no power, nothing to do
I still remember, why don't you...don't you...
This is not for you
This is not for you
This is not for you
Oh, never was for you...fark you...
This is not for you...
Oh, this is not for you...yeah, you...
This is not for you...
Oh, not for you...
Oh, you...
[ Lyrics from: http://www.lyricsfreak.
 
2012-08-17 12:06:15 PM

St_Francis_P: SlothB77: St_Francis_P: SlothB77: well, Zack de la Rocha is a huge communist.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Political_views_and_activism_of_Rage_Aga i nst_the_Machine

I'd be shocked if he wasn't. That's what this whole thread is about, basically.

just informing the ignorant.

Everyone here knows. You really need to inform Ryan.


He probably knows. It's possible to to have a deep appreciation for an artist's work without marching in lockstep with his political views.
 
2012-08-17 12:12:05 PM

mrshowrules: PC LOAD LETTER: FishyFred: [i45.tinypic.com image 300x300]

Look how high he holds his guitar. Like a communist prissy homosexual. Real 'mericans sling their axes down low, below the waist.

Well, that DOES hold true for Johnny Ramone, who was a huge Conservative.

Johnny died in 2004. I somehow doubt he would be supporting Romney today.


THE RAMONES NEVER DIE!
 
2012-08-17 12:14:32 PM

Nabb1: He probably knows. It's possible to to have a deep appreciation for an artist's work without marching in lockstep with his political views.


Fair enough, but this is pretty ridiculous.

It's not much of a stretch to say that Rage Against The Machine was THE political band of the 90s. Their political stance and messaging is a HUGE part of their appeal for most fans. It is so powerful it is utterly impossible to ignore.

If he liked the hard sound of Rage Against The Machine, the 1990s have plenty of fantastic bands to choose from.

That he would pick RATM is just absurdly weird and pretty transparent.
 
2012-08-17 12:15:07 PM
FYI Republicans, the following lyrics are not about the IRS, or your marginal tax rate increasing 4%.

now you're under control
And now you do what they told ya!

Those who died are justified, for wearing the badge, they're the chosen whites
You justify those that died by wearing the badge, they're the chosen whites
Those who died are justified, for wearing the badge, they're the chosen whites
You justify those that died by wearing the badge, they're the chosen whites
Come on!

Yeah! Come on!

fark you, I won't do what you tell me
 
2012-08-17 12:20:13 PM
Ryan's a randroid. Shouldn't he be a Rush fan?
 
2012-08-17 12:20:40 PM

impaler: FYI Republicans, the following lyrics are not about the IRS, or your marginal tax rate increasing 4%.

now you're under control
And now you do what they told ya!

Those who died are justified, for wearing the badge, they're the chosen whites
You justify those that died by wearing the badge, they're the chosen whites
Those who died are justified, for wearing the badge, they're the chosen whites
You justify those that died by wearing the badge, they're the chosen whites
Come on!

Yeah! Come on!

fark you, I won't do what you tell me


I think it's an elliptic reference to the White Man's Burden that today's conservatives have to bear. Ryan was savvy enough to understand, and I'm sure in time RATM will recognize that and thank him for his support.
 
2012-08-17 12:22:22 PM

Rev.K: Nabb1: He probably knows. It's possible to to have a deep appreciation for an artist's work without marching in lockstep with his political views.

Fair enough, but this is pretty ridiculous.

It's not much of a stretch to say that Rage Against The Machine was THE political band of the 90s. Their political stance and messaging is a HUGE part of their appeal for most fans. It is so powerful it is utterly impossible to ignore.

If he liked the hard sound of Rage Against The Machine, the 1990s have plenty of fantastic bands to choose from.

That he would pick RATM is just absurdly weird and pretty transparent.


I'd thing it's slightly odd, but not worthy of outrage. I like Rage. I saw them a few times in the 1990's. Musically, they are really damned good, and I thought they set themselves apart from a lot of hard rock acts of that decade. Not to mention, I remember at the time hearing Rage blaring out of fraternity house windows. Their concerts had their share of the true believers, but it's not like they didn't have a much wider appeal at their peak.
 
2012-08-17 12:23:31 PM

Nabb1: St_Francis_P: SlothB77: St_Francis_P: SlothB77: well, Zack de la Rocha is a huge communist.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Political_views_and_activism_of_Rage_Aga i nst_the_Machine

I'd be shocked if he wasn't. That's what this whole thread is about, basically.

just informing the ignorant.

Everyone here knows. You really need to inform Ryan.

He probably knows. It's possible to to have a deep appreciation for an artist's work without marching in lockstep with his political views.


I'm a huge Toby Keith fan. I don't always agree with his political views, but the music is so darn good.
 
2012-08-17 12:26:43 PM

NuttierThanEver: Not RATM but the sentiment's the same

Restless soul, enjoy your youth
Like muhammad hits the truth
Can't escape from the common rule
If you hate something, don't you do it too...too...
Small my table, a sits just two
Got so crowded, i can't make room
Oh, where did they come from? stormed my room!
And you dare say it belongs to you...to you...
This is not for you
This is not for you
This is not for you
Oh, not for you...ah, you...
...scream...my friends...don't call me...
...friends, no they don't scream...
...my friends don't call...my friends don't...
All that's sacred comes from youth
Dedication, naive and true
With no power, nothing to do
I still remember, why don't you...don't you...
This is not for you
This is not for you
This is not for you
Oh, never was for you...fark you...
This is not for you...
Oh, this is not for you...yeah, you...
This is not for you...
Oh, not for you...
Oh, you...
[ Lyrics from: http://www.lyricsfreak.


I thought that was about Kurt Cobain
 
2012-08-17 12:30:38 PM

Nabb1: I'd thing it's slightly odd, but not worthy of outrage. I like Rage. I saw them a few times in the 1990's. Musically, they are really damned good, and I thought they set themselves apart from a lot of hard rock acts of that decade. Not to mention, I remember at the time hearing Rage blaring out of fraternity house windows. Their concerts had their share of the true believers, but it's not like they didn't have a much wider appeal at their peak.


Yeah, fair enough.
 
2012-08-17 12:31:26 PM

Three Crooked Squirrels: I'm a huge Toby Keith fan. I don't always agree with his political views, but the music is so darn good.

 
 
kistenet.com
 
 
2012-08-17 12:36:59 PM

Rev.K: Yeah, fair enough.


I'm not really sure who's "outraged" here
 
2012-08-17 12:39:46 PM
What? His favorite band is Rage Against The Machine? Oh. Then I guess it's okay for him to screw over the middle class and those less fortunate in America, because he likes Silversun Pickups and Rage.

/twit
 
2012-08-17 12:40:41 PM

Jackson Herring: Rev.K: Yeah, fair enough.

I'm not really sure who's "outraged" here


Tom Morello?
 
2012-08-17 12:41:44 PM

Three Crooked Squirrels: I'm a huge Toby Keith fan. I don't always agree with his political views, but the music is so darn good.


I dislike the man but "Whiskey for My Men, and Beer for My Horses" is one of my favourite songs.
 
2012-08-17 12:46:58 PM
Tom Morello makes Woodie Guthrie look like Alan Jackson
 
2012-08-17 12:53:31 PM
Paul Ryan is also a big fan of Public Enemy and KRS-One
 
2012-08-17 12:53:39 PM
Mitt Romney's favorite album:

image.lyricspond.com
 
2012-08-17 12:54:14 PM

vernonFL: Paul Ryan is also a big fan of Public Enemy and KRS-One


THESE ARE THE TAX BREAKS.

OK I know not the same guy whatever.
 
2012-08-17 01:00:18 PM
Mitt Romney's favorite musician:

www.mtv.com

Tax cuts, tax cuts all type of tax cuts,
Tax cuts for the rich and tax cuts for the super-rich,
Girl, girl, get that cash,
If it's being born rich or marrying a rich guy
 
2012-08-17 01:02:46 PM

sweetmelissa31: Mitt Romney's favorite musician:

[www.mtv.com image 350x365]

Tax cuts, tax cuts all type of tax cuts,
Tax cuts for the rich and tax cuts for the super-rich,
Girl, girl, get that cash,
If it's being born rich or marrying a rich guy


Whatever happened to her?
 
2012-08-17 01:04:19 PM

dugitman: Ryan's a randroid. Shouldn't he be a Rush fan?


^^^This^^^
 
2012-08-17 01:11:27 PM

dugitman: Ryan's a randroid. Shouldn't he be a Rush fan?


I'm offended by the implication that because I like Rush I'm an Ayn Rand fan.
 
2012-08-17 01:19:15 PM

sweetmelissa31: Mitt Romney's favorite musician:

[www.mtv.com image 350x365]

Tax cuts, tax cuts all type of tax cuts,
Tax cuts for the rich and tax cuts for the super-rich,
Girl, girl, get that cash,
If it's being born rich or marrying a rich guy


oh holy shiat
 
2012-08-17 01:23:05 PM

Bontesla: Anyone else sense this was said because strategists thought it would play well with young adults?


No, he may really like Rage. He's the right age demographic. He probably has some early rap in his collection, too, he just doesn't talk about it.
 
2012-08-17 01:25:12 PM
Seriously. The entire GOP is just trolling. They have to be.
 
2012-08-17 01:26:15 PM

djkutch: sweetmelissa31: It's like Fartblackma saying his favorite band is Prussian Blue.

Oh, I had so forgotten about Prussian Blue! My favorite headline from the over post days: Link


The Fark submission is redlinked :(

Here's the link they used: http://www.webexhibits.org/pigments/indiv/technical/prussblue.html

And here's the money shot: "willywanka: from a medical transcript excerpt out of the Chernobyl aftermath:

"And all 20 patients were internally contaminated, which meant that they were being continually irradiated from the cesium that they had inhaled or accidentally ingested. The patients themselves were radioactive. Because the patients themselves were radioactive: the first task was to attempt to rid their bodies of cesium. For this, they administered Prussian blue, an iron compound that bonds with cesium, aiding its excretion."

So there you have. These girls make one involuntarily shiat toxins. Go figure."
 
2012-08-17 01:26:41 PM
I just want to thank Mittens and Paul for getting me back on a Dead Kennedys kick. Lots of great songs I had forgotten.
 
2012-08-17 01:26:44 PM
It's like Turkey changing their national anthem to a System of a Down song.

// "Chic'n'Stu", for the lulz
 
2012-08-17 01:28:11 PM
Wow. I liked that article far more than I thought I would and I like this guitarist far more than I thought I would.

You see, the super rich must rationalize having more than they could ever spend while millions of children in the U.S. go to bed hungry every night. So, when they look themselves in the mirror, they convince themselves that "Those people are undeserving. They're . . . lesser." Some of these guys on the extreme right are more cynical than Paul Ryan, but he seems to really believe in this stuff. This unbridled rage against those who have the least is a cornerstone of the Romney-Ryan ticket.
 
2012-08-17 01:28:14 PM
fark you, I won't pay what you tell me. fark you, I won't pay what you tell me!
 
2012-08-17 01:28:35 PM

Cythraul: sweetmelissa31: Mitt Romney's favorite musician:

[www.mtv.com image 350x365]

Tax cuts, tax cuts all type of tax cuts,
Tax cuts for the rich and tax cuts for the super-rich,
Girl, girl, get that cash,
If it's being born rich or marrying a rich guy

Whatever happened to her?


I think she suffocated in that garbage bag she's wearing.
 
2012-08-17 01:29:25 PM
Press Releases for Tomorrow:

Romney: My favorite band is Cannibal Corpse
Obama: My favorite artist is Ted Nugent
 
2012-08-17 01:29:39 PM
So basically, RATM is mad because someone heard their music and liked it, but still doesn't agree with them.
 
2012-08-17 01:29:58 PM
Hey, I'm a Libertarian and like RATM. They play good music. If I worried about the political views of every product I bought I'd never get anything done.

Of course, I've never actually bought a RATM album. Just downloaded it from the internet because "to each according to his need", and those guys already make way too much money, right?
 
2012-08-17 01:30:19 PM
The real joke here is that someone compared RATM to The Beatles.
 
2012-08-17 01:30:19 PM

GAT_00: dugitman: Ryan's a randroid. Shouldn't he be a Rush fan?

I'm offended by the implication that because I like Rush I'm an Ayn Rand fan.


A lot of Rush's music was inspired by Rand's work. Still good music, regardless.

I'm still surprised Ryan likes RATM, since much of their music advocates violent revolution against... well, people like him.
 
2012-08-17 01:30:20 PM
Pffft, I had Paul Ryan pegged as a Phil Collins fan.
 
2012-08-17 01:30:40 PM
RATM is more anti-establishment, in my opinion. Although they could also be said to be Marxist.

But yeah, he probably likes it for working out. It is kick ass workout music.

Either way, was a stupid thing to say (as it would be stupid for any R or D politician to say, considering their lyrics).

RATM kicks ass though.
 
2012-08-17 01:30:42 PM
Has this jack-ass read any of their lyrics?

Rage is totally about crushing the 1%. They make Obama look like Grover Norquist. It's like if a liberal said their favorite book was Atlas Shrugged. It shows Ryan is very shallow in his thinking.
 
2012-08-17 01:31:05 PM
Who cares? The lib derp in this thread over what band he likes is hilarious. Do you guy really care that much what he listens to?
 
2012-08-17 01:31:08 PM
In other news:

David Duke announced his favorite band is Public Enemy (the old stuff when the S1Ws were still around)

Related Articles:

Jesse Jackson: "I really find Skrewdriver's music helping me keep up with my calisthenics"

KRS-ONE: New album in sponsorship with the Pork Council announced
 
2012-08-17 01:31:08 PM

HeartBurnKid: GAT_00: dugitman: Ryan's a randroid. Shouldn't he be a Rush fan?

I'm offended by the implication that because I like Rush I'm an Ayn Rand fan.

A lot of Rush's music was inspired by Rand's work. Still good music, regardless.

I'm still surprised Ryan likes RATM, since much of their music advocates violent revolution against... well, people like him.


Self-hatred is a particularly pernicious thing.
 
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