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(NBC News)   Guilty of one count of "hooliganism" and one count of "accessory to hooliganism"   (worldnews.nbcnews.com) divider line 13
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2012-08-17 10:00:48 AM
2 votes:
Hoohooliganism!

/seriously that was a pathetic and shameful sham trial
2012-08-17 04:08:01 PM
1 votes:

Cajnik: I don't even want to count the number of times Soviet Union appeared in this thread


Oh, are you going to enlighten us with your amazing fact that the real Soviet Union dissolved 20 years ago?

Putin seems to have the goal of reconstituting the Soviet Union, run by a criminal racket with the support of the Orthodox church. This show trial was straight out of the CCCP playbook and was designed to intimidate others who dare criticize the government.
2012-08-17 01:30:54 PM
1 votes:

Jimmy_James: I've been trying to think of a USA equivalent to this situation. That is, something that the general public would be disturbed (from what I've read the vast majority of Russians disapprove of the bands actions) by but possibly covered under freedom of expression. Here's the best I came up with (this is not intended to be a troll)...

What if a white power band strode into a mosque wearing ski masks and starting playing music objecting to President Obama. Using slurs against the president and making blasphemous comments about Islam. Possibly claiming that the president is in league with Islam as he's a "secret muslim". Not a perfect analogy but not too far fetched either and has some strong parallels.

I think there'd be a lot of people upset that some assholes stormed into a private place of worship, disrespecting a culture, to make a politcal point that they could have done elsewhere. We'd likely be arguing whether the first amendment trumped the congregations rights to peacefully assemble and practice their beliefs.


You would be very useful in this new Russia.
2012-08-17 01:24:51 PM
1 votes:
I've been trying to think of a USA equivalent to this situation. That is, something that the general public would be disturbed (from what I've read the vast majority of Russians disapprove of the bands actions) by but possibly covered under freedom of expression. Here's the best I came up with (this is not intended to be a troll)...

What if a white power band strode into a mosque wearing ski masks and starting playing music objecting to President Obama. Using slurs against the president and making blasphemous comments about Islam. Possibly claiming that the president is in league with Islam as he's a "secret muslim". Not a perfect analogy but not too far fetched either and has some strong parallels.

I think there'd be a lot of people upset that some assholes stormed into a private place of worship, disrespecting a culture, to make a politcal point that they could have done elsewhere. We'd likely be arguing whether the first amendment trumped the congregations rights to peacefully assemble and practice their beliefs.
2012-08-17 01:18:02 PM
1 votes:
FTA: "The trial divided Russia's Orthodox Christians, with many backing the authorities' demands for severe punishment, but others saying the women should be granted clemency.
The trial featured a parade of state witnesses say they were traumatized by the church performance, which prosecutors called an abuse of God."

sounds like a GOP wet dream.
2012-08-17 12:51:59 PM
1 votes:

Madbassist1:
WHat country do you live in?


USA.

Go to your local mosque, Shriners lodge, Mason lodge, bingo hall, or Boy Scout meeting and do the same thing they did. The police will be more than happy to throw you in jail.

Now, the sentence they got may be excessive, but they acted like hooligans.
2012-08-17 12:40:03 PM
1 votes:

jasenj1: I was watching BBC America this morning and they had the decision live - for a VERY long time.

From what the judge read, sounded like these hooligans went into the church, waited for the service to be underway, then jumped up, whipped off their overcoats and started screeching and acting like hooligans - dancing around, saying "blasphemous" things, and generally acting like... hooligans.

I don't care if your "content" was political dissent or complaining about the weather, a stupid stunt like that gets you thrown in jail.


Want to know how I know you haven't been following this trial at all?

Anyone who sticks up for Putin is an accessory to evil.
2012-08-17 11:20:36 AM
1 votes:

Old_Chief_Scott: hdhale: Clearly around 1000 AD someone took the Orthodox version of the New Testament and removed all the references to forgiveness, not passing judgment, and such. It would explain much of the rest of Russian history. Christians by definition cannot support this verdict.

Also, if you forgot that the Patriarch of Moscow was hand picked by Soviet rulers since Stalin and in their back pocket, here is your reminder. Yes I said Soviet, not Russian. Let's stop pretending unless you want to add 'Czar' to the front of Putin's name.

Why so serious? This is about a Pussy Riot and you want to give a history lesson. Were there pussy riots in 1000 AD? I think not. Or perhaps news of their occurance have been suppressed?


Simple. Is Pussy Riot the best Rock band of all time? LOL No. Not the point. The issues are far larger than some wannabe band. This was a fine and "get the hell out of my courtroom" after a long lecture situation in practically every other place in the world outside of China and the Middle East, and not even the entire Middle East. I see Putin for what he is--a poser who is just another Russian mafia don with bigger toys. Sadly, he has enough of the Russian population backing him, and rest cowed into submission, that he gets to strut around like he's a Czar. I want someone to permanently wipe the smug off his farking face. Too many people have died and or had their life's ruined because of his antics.
2012-08-17 10:57:45 AM
1 votes:
It's funny, because hooliganism is the same charge that the old soviet regime in then Czechoslovakia would level against dissidents.
2012-08-17 10:49:32 AM
1 votes:
Religion of peace...

/Russia doesn't have probation for minor crap like this, eh?
2012-08-17 10:41:17 AM
1 votes:

Biness: dude, russia, quit.

in related news, PMS will now be referred to as "pussy riot" in my house.


you're either a brave man or your house does not actually contain any menstruating women.
2012-08-17 10:32:39 AM
1 votes:
Never heard the word "pussy" used so much on NPR this morning. It was refreshing.
2012-08-17 08:12:29 AM
1 votes:
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Careful... they may become ruffians!
 
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