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(NBC News)   Guilty of one count of "hooliganism" and one count of "accessory to hooliganism"   (worldnews.nbcnews.com) divider line 113
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2012-08-17 11:11:32 AM  
I admire the courage for protesting over there.
That said, their music sucks. And it was a really bad protest.
But hey, great band name.
 
2012-08-17 11:14:26 AM  
media.mwcradio.com
"Ah, the two what? Uh... uh, what was that word?"
Uh... what word?
"Two what?"
What?
"Uh... did you say Pussies?"
Yeah, two Pussies.
"What is a Pussie? "
Oh, excuse me, your honor...two* Ruskies.*
 
2012-08-17 11:15:28 AM  
A Yahoo article on the story describes the court room:

"Guards, armed with submachine guns, grabbed journalists and threw them out of the room at will. The judge, perched in front of a shabby Russian flag, refused to look at the defense. And the police dog--a 100 [pound] black Rottweiler--no longer sat in the corner she had occupied since the start of Russia's trial of the year, but barked and foamed at the mouth as if she were in search of blood."

Are you freakin' serious?
 
2012-08-17 11:20:36 AM  

Old_Chief_Scott: hdhale: Clearly around 1000 AD someone took the Orthodox version of the New Testament and removed all the references to forgiveness, not passing judgment, and such. It would explain much of the rest of Russian history. Christians by definition cannot support this verdict.

Also, if you forgot that the Patriarch of Moscow was hand picked by Soviet rulers since Stalin and in their back pocket, here is your reminder. Yes I said Soviet, not Russian. Let's stop pretending unless you want to add 'Czar' to the front of Putin's name.

Why so serious? This is about a Pussy Riot and you want to give a history lesson. Were there pussy riots in 1000 AD? I think not. Or perhaps news of their occurance have been suppressed?


Simple. Is Pussy Riot the best Rock band of all time? LOL No. Not the point. The issues are far larger than some wannabe band. This was a fine and "get the hell out of my courtroom" after a long lecture situation in practically every other place in the world outside of China and the Middle East, and not even the entire Middle East. I see Putin for what he is--a poser who is just another Russian mafia don with bigger toys. Sadly, he has enough of the Russian population backing him, and rest cowed into submission, that he gets to strut around like he's a Czar. I want someone to permanently wipe the smug off his farking face. Too many people have died and or had their life's ruined because of his antics.
 
2012-08-17 11:23:31 AM  
FTA: A Russian judge on Friday found three members of a feminist punk band guilty

"Did he just say 'making fark'?"

/Berserker
 
2012-08-17 11:23:36 AM  
But I saw Putin wrestle a siberian tiger! And drive a sub! And arm wrestle bikers! Someone as strong as that wouldn't be afriad of a little civil dissent! There must be some kind of mistake in translation, and we in the west aren't getting the full story.
 
2012-08-17 11:25:13 AM  

Mr.Hawk: This is so totally full of win.

Link


/Don't really get the music fade in and outs though. No real recording studios or Pro Tools in Moscow?


Wow, that was almost as bad as listening to skrillex.
 
mhd
2012-08-17 11:26:33 AM  

Old_Chief_Scott: I'm no expert, but that looks more like a Classical Period Pussy Riot to me.


i.imgur.com 

/was passing by closer to 1000 AD
 
2012-08-17 11:29:50 AM  
www.designerclothing247.com 

Accessory to hooliganism...
 
2012-08-17 11:32:57 AM  
He said, "What were you arrested for?" And I said, "Littering." And they all moved away from me on the bench there, and the hairy eyeball and all kinds of mean nasty things, till I said, "And accessory to hooliganism." And they all came back, shook my hand, and we had a great time on the bench, talkin about crime, mother stabbing, father raping, all kinds of groovy things that we was talking about on the bench.
 
2012-08-17 11:33:18 AM  
sad thing is, all putin needed was one ranger

forums.steves-digicams.com
 
2012-08-17 11:35:26 AM  

God Is My Co-Pirate: Hoohooliganism!

/seriously that was a pathetic and shameful sham trial


You know who else gave people shameful sham trials?

upload.wikimedia.org
 
2012-08-17 11:36:41 AM  
What hooligan may look like:

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2012-08-17 11:37:30 AM  
media.troyoverton.com

Sorry... obligatory.

/old
//Hey, I'm old.
 
2012-08-17 11:39:58 AM  
Reminds me of this..

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img229.imageshack.us
 
2012-08-17 11:45:49 AM  
And just in case you thought Russia was even hinting at becoming more progressive, they decided to ban gay pride marches for another 100 years, too. So there's that.
 
2012-08-17 12:05:09 PM  

BudTheSpud: And just in case you thought Russia was even hinting at becoming more progressive, they decided to ban gay pride marches for another 100 years, too. So there's that.


Well I don't really blame them much for that. Those parades are kinda gay.

/finds the colors annoying
 
2012-08-17 12:06:46 PM  

hdhale: Simple. Is Pussy Riot the best Rock band of all time?


I just happen to think that it is a sad day on Fark, Fark LLC, and FarkDotCom and its wholly owned subsidiaries when a thread based on the two words "Pussy Riot" is derailed by someone with a political axe to grind.

VERY sad.
 
2012-08-17 12:08:35 PM  
the one in blue is a carbon copy of my eastern european wife 5 years ago, and pretty close to her now. pics? no, i will not post, but, well, it's pretty uncanny and a lot of her friends have been sending us emails about this today when they saw the pix in the news. feel free to be jealous now.

/ Free Psssy, Riot.
/ Free, Psssy Riot
 
2012-08-17 12:23:26 PM  
img2.imagesbn.com

RIP Zoot Suit Riot
 
2012-08-17 12:28:20 PM  

Mishno: But Putin is soooooooo COOOL! I wish we had a president just like him!!!!


There's always one of you in a Russian thread.

No one is kidding themselves that Russia is progressive, and liberals don't pine for something like Russia.

In other words,
i939.photobucket.com
 
2012-08-17 12:29:01 PM  
i939.photobucket.com
 
2012-08-17 12:29:57 PM  
I was watching BBC America this morning and they had the decision live - for a VERY long time.

From what the judge read, sounded like these hooligans went into the church, waited for the service to be underway, then jumped up, whipped off their overcoats and started screeching and acting like hooligans - dancing around, saying "blasphemous" things, and generally acting like... hooligans.

I don't care if your "content" was political dissent or complaining about the weather, a stupid stunt like that gets you thrown in jail.
 
2012-08-17 12:38:21 PM  

Fark In The Duck: So many pun-tastic possibilities for this headline and this was the one that got greenlighted?


They been shutting down any mention of the word pussy, or plays on words relating to it. I know I submitted a few and they all got shot down.
 
2012-08-17 12:39:10 PM  

jasenj1: I was watching BBC America this morning and they had the decision live - for a VERY long time.

From what the judge read, sounded like these hooligans went into the church, waited for the service to be underway, then jumped up, whipped off their overcoats and started screeching and acting like hooligans - dancing around, saying "blasphemous" things, and generally acting like... hooligans.

I don't care if your "content" was political dissent or complaining about the weather, a stupid stunt like that gets you thrown in jail.


WHat country do you live in?
 
2012-08-17 12:40:03 PM  

jasenj1: I was watching BBC America this morning and they had the decision live - for a VERY long time.

From what the judge read, sounded like these hooligans went into the church, waited for the service to be underway, then jumped up, whipped off their overcoats and started screeching and acting like hooligans - dancing around, saying "blasphemous" things, and generally acting like... hooligans.

I don't care if your "content" was political dissent or complaining about the weather, a stupid stunt like that gets you thrown in jail.


Want to know how I know you haven't been following this trial at all?

Anyone who sticks up for Putin is an accessory to evil.
 
2012-08-17 12:40:34 PM  

SurfaceTension: Worst group "before & after" picture ever:

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I like the middle one
 
2012-08-17 12:48:16 PM  
My band Cock Disturbance stands united with these young ladies.

Just an informal jazz ensemble. Why do you ask?
 
2012-08-17 12:51:59 PM  

Madbassist1:
WHat country do you live in?


USA.

Go to your local mosque, Shriners lodge, Mason lodge, bingo hall, or Boy Scout meeting and do the same thing they did. The police will be more than happy to throw you in jail.

Now, the sentence they got may be excessive, but they acted like hooligans.
 
2012-08-17 12:52:44 PM  
FREE PUSSY*!!! FREE PUSSY*!!!

*(riot)
 
2012-08-17 12:55:16 PM  

jasenj1: I was watching BBC America this morning and they had the decision live - for a VERY long time.

From what the judge read, sounded like these hooligans went into the church, waited for the service to be underway, then jumped up, whipped off their overcoats and started screeching and acting like hooligans - dancing around, saying "blasphemous" things, and generally acting like... hooligans.

I don't care if your "content" was political dissent or complaining about the weather, a stupid stunt like that gets you thrown in jail.


You're right. They will. In America, you'll get a disturbing the peace ticket, pay a $100 fine, and thats that.
 
2012-08-17 12:59:13 PM  

jasenj1: Go to your local . . . Mason lodge


Ahem... they'd never make it in the door. If I did it, they'd tell me to shut up and sit down.

We don't typically sentence people to prison time for simple trespass or disturbing the peace in this country. We didn't make up a crime like "hooliganism" in order to punish people for unpopular speech. But hey, we're not an evil bizarro Soviet Union.
 
2012-08-17 01:02:57 PM  
Is that Rosa Klebb and the far left? I thought she died in "From Russia with Love"
msnbcmedia.msn.commedia.screened.com
 
2012-08-17 01:05:52 PM  

SPLAMM: Is that Rosa Klebb and the far left? I thought she died in "From Russia with Love"
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that right there is a weird reference
 
2012-08-17 01:18:02 PM  
FTA: "The trial divided Russia's Orthodox Christians, with many backing the authorities' demands for severe punishment, but others saying the women should be granted clemency.
The trial featured a parade of state witnesses say they were traumatized by the church performance, which prosecutors called an abuse of God."

sounds like a GOP wet dream.
 
2012-08-17 01:24:51 PM  
I've been trying to think of a USA equivalent to this situation. That is, something that the general public would be disturbed (from what I've read the vast majority of Russians disapprove of the bands actions) by but possibly covered under freedom of expression. Here's the best I came up with (this is not intended to be a troll)...

What if a white power band strode into a mosque wearing ski masks and starting playing music objecting to President Obama. Using slurs against the president and making blasphemous comments about Islam. Possibly claiming that the president is in league with Islam as he's a "secret muslim". Not a perfect analogy but not too far fetched either and has some strong parallels.

I think there'd be a lot of people upset that some assholes stormed into a private place of worship, disrespecting a culture, to make a politcal point that they could have done elsewhere. We'd likely be arguing whether the first amendment trumped the congregations rights to peacefully assemble and practice their beliefs.
 
2012-08-17 01:27:44 PM  

Jimmy_James: I've been trying to think of a USA equivalent to this situation. That is, something that the general public would be disturbed (from what I've read the vast majority of Russians disapprove of the bands actions) by but possibly covered under freedom of expression. Here's the best I came up with (this is not intended to be a troll)...

What if a white power band strode into a mosque wearing ski masks and starting playing music objecting to President Obama. Using slurs against the president and making blasphemous comments about Islam. Possibly claiming that the president is in league with Islam as he's a "secret muslim". Not a perfect analogy but not too far fetched either and has some strong parallels.

I think there'd be a lot of people upset that some assholes stormed into a private place of worship, disrespecting a culture, to make a politcal point that they could have done elsewhere. We'd likely be arguing whether the first amendment trumped the congregations rights to peacefully assemble and practice their beliefs.


Thats not a terrible way to compare. However, I think it would still just merit a prosecution for disturbing the peace, trespass, etc

I think this basically makes russia look like the equivalent of a petulant 13 year old girl.
 
2012-08-17 01:30:54 PM  

Jimmy_James: I've been trying to think of a USA equivalent to this situation. That is, something that the general public would be disturbed (from what I've read the vast majority of Russians disapprove of the bands actions) by but possibly covered under freedom of expression. Here's the best I came up with (this is not intended to be a troll)...

What if a white power band strode into a mosque wearing ski masks and starting playing music objecting to President Obama. Using slurs against the president and making blasphemous comments about Islam. Possibly claiming that the president is in league with Islam as he's a "secret muslim". Not a perfect analogy but not too far fetched either and has some strong parallels.

I think there'd be a lot of people upset that some assholes stormed into a private place of worship, disrespecting a culture, to make a politcal point that they could have done elsewhere. We'd likely be arguing whether the first amendment trumped the congregations rights to peacefully assemble and practice their beliefs.


You would be very useful in this new Russia.
 
2012-08-17 01:33:28 PM  
jasenj1
Go to your local mosque, Shriners lodge, Mason lodge, bingo hall, or Boy Scout meeting and do the same thing they did. The police will be more than happy to throw you in jail.

Now, the sentence they got may be excessive, but they acted like hooligans.


Apparently you're from a different country than I am because we don't typically throw people in jail here in the United States for a minute or two of trespassing in a church. We especially don't sentence them to two years in said prison.

It's farked up. It's Russia the totalitarian state crushing dissent like they did in the good ol' days. That's what Putin delivers to his country.
 
2012-08-17 01:37:16 PM  
Ego edo infantia cattus
FTA: "The trial divided Russia's Orthodox Christians, with many backing the authorities' demands for severe punishment, but others saying the women should be granted clemency.
The trial featured a parade of state witnesses say they were traumatized by the church performance, which prosecutors called an abuse of God."

sounds like a GOP wet dream.


The "impartial" judge also prevented the defense from calling any witnesses and rejected most of their questions for the prosecution witnesses. It was a kangaroo court that rendered an already decided politically motivated verdict. You can be sure that they did exactly what Putin wanted. Welcome to the Soviet Union.
 
2012-08-17 01:39:20 PM  

patrick767: jasenj1
Go to your local mosque, Shriners lodge, Mason lodge, bingo hall, or Boy Scout meeting and do the same thing they did. The police will be more than happy to throw you in jail.

Now, the sentence they got may be excessive, but they acted like hooligans.

Apparently you're from a different country than I am because we don't typically throw people in jail here in the United States for a minute or two of trespassing in a church. We especially don't sentence them to two years in said prison.

It's farked up. It's Russia the totalitarian state crushing dissent like they did in the good ol' days. That's what Putin delivers to his country.


Hope. Change.
 
2012-08-17 01:42:33 PM  
I thought an accessory to hooliganism was a Manchester United jersey
 
2012-08-17 01:44:36 PM  

patrick767:
we don't typically throw people in jail here in the United States for a minute or two of trespassing in a church. We especially don't sentence them to two years in said prison.

It's farked up. It's Russia the totalitarian state crushing dissent like they did in the good ol' days. That's what Putin delivers to his country.


THAT I will completely agree with. The sentence is excessive. But the girls acted like asshats and deserve some sort of punishment. In the USA, they'd probably be hauled off to jail, make bail, and have some minor punishment.
 
2012-08-17 01:50:07 PM  
jasenj1
In the USA, they'd probably be hauled off to jail, make bail, and have some minor punishment.

I can't be sure, but in most areas I doubt they'd be hauled off to jail. The police would ask them to leave and maybe give them a citation.

Of course if they refused to leave promptly, the police might taser the living fark out of them. America... fark yeah!
 
2012-08-17 01:55:51 PM  

patrick767: jasenj1
In the USA, they'd probably be hauled off to jail, make bail, and have some minor punishment.

I can't be sure, but in most areas I doubt they'd be hauled off to jail. The police would ask them to leave and maybe give them a citation.

Of course if they refused to leave promptly, the police might taser the living fark out of them. America... fark yeah!


the police would have the right and ability to take them to jail. They wouldn't have to, and might not. But that doesn't mean they'd be wrong to do so. Any which way, unless this was like a 5th offense, they're not spending a night in jail. Could have a restraining order barring them from that, presumably, private land again, which is fair.
 
2012-08-17 02:03:59 PM  

Jimmy_James: I've been trying to think of a USA equivalent to this situation. That is, something that the general public would be disturbed (from what I've read the vast majority of Russians disapprove of the bands actions) by but possibly covered under freedom of expression. Here's the best I came up with (this is not intended to be a troll)...

What if a white power band strode into a mosque wearing ski masks and starting playing music objecting to President Obama. Using slurs against the president and making blasphemous comments about Islam. Possibly claiming that the president is in league with Islam as he's a "secret muslim". Not a perfect analogy but not too far fetched either and has some strong parallels.

I think there'd be a lot of people upset that some assholes stormed into a private place of worship, disrespecting a culture, to make a politcal point that they could have done elsewhere. We'd likely be arguing whether the first amendment trumped the congregations rights to peacefully assemble and practice their beliefs.


Or maybe the congregation would just open up with their AK-47s.
 
2012-08-17 02:12:45 PM  
Gotta love Russia....they have bands called Pussy Riot and a leader named Poontang
 
2012-08-17 02:17:48 PM  
@Old_Chief_Scott

Listen, chief, it is not socially acceptable to make the presumption that Muslims are carrying automatic weapons at all times and I find your comments to reveal you both as a troller and a coward. This is probably the argument you use to defend your need to carry concealed weapons with you at all times. But I have news for you: not everyone thinks like you, jack. Take your generalizations elsewhere. Maybe back to the 1920s, where xenophobia and honor duels were more commonplace.
 
2012-08-17 02:32:38 PM  

Pontius Pilates Class: I thought an accessory to hooliganism was a Manchester United jersey


I'm not sure hooligans can afford £150 tickets
 
2012-08-17 02:34:35 PM  
I don't even want to count the number of times Soviet Union appeared in this thread
 
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