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(Talking Points Memo)   Nevada Senator Heller (R) "I am not running attack ads - My campaign is." No word on whether he or his hair is the actual entity running for Senate   (livewire.talkingpointsmemo.com) divider line 46
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2012-08-17 08:23:49 AM
This reminds me of "John McCain doesn't speak for the McCain campaign" of 2008. Good times.
 
2012-08-17 08:50:43 AM
Shameless. Even if this is how you "manage" to just come out and say that is stunningly dumb.
 
2012-08-17 08:56:26 AM
Do they not have that "I"m so and so and I approve this message" thing?
 
2012-08-17 09:27:34 AM
So, companies are people, but, campaigns are not the people they are campaigning for.

Got it, thanks GOP!
 
2012-08-17 09:59:30 AM
"I'm completely incapable and unaware of what my own staff are doing in my name! Vote for me!"
 
2012-08-17 10:43:17 AM

God Is My Co-Pirate: "I'm completely incapable and unaware of what my own staff are doing in my name! Vote for me!"


"I can't manage my personal affairs. So vote for me so I can tell you how to manage yours!"
 
2012-08-17 10:56:41 AM
I'm not punching you in the face, my fist is.
 
2012-08-17 11:05:20 AM
In his defense, I think he's refering to the RCCC, a national organization which helps elect Republican Congressmen, rather than his own personal campaign
 
2012-08-17 11:06:04 AM
I want a leader with responsibility.....
 
2012-08-17 11:07:35 AM
You didn't attack that!
 
2012-08-17 11:09:50 AM
Do the ads say "I'm Sen. Heller and I approve this ad"? If so, screw you buddy.
 
2012-08-17 11:11:24 AM
Senator Heller? Has anyone exposed him to a Mercer virus scanner recently?
 
2012-08-17 11:14:23 AM

PanicMan: Do the ads say "I'm Sen. Heller and I approve this ad"? If so, screw you buddy.


Even if not, fark this shiatbird. They're part of his campaign. The buck stops with him.
 
2012-08-17 11:14:47 AM

Aarontology: Do they not have that "I"m so and so and I approve this message" thing?


They do. And he does. Here's the ad.

Lost Thought 00: In his defense, I think he's refering to the RCCC, a national organization which helps elect Republican Congressmen, rather than his own personal campaign


No, see above. It's his ad.
 
2012-08-17 11:22:52 AM

Car_Ramrod: Aarontology: Do they not have that "I"m so and so and I approve this message" thing?

They do. And he does. Here's the ad.

Lost Thought 00: In his defense, I think he's refering to the RCCC, a national organization which helps elect Republican Congressmen, rather than his own personal campaign

No, see above. It's his ad.


Well, I take that back. He's just another dickhead who doesn't think anyone will do the bare minimum level of verification on what he says
 
2012-08-17 11:25:42 AM
Personal responsibility, ladies and gentlemen.
 
2012-08-17 11:27:28 AM

Lost Thought 00: Car_Ramrod: Aarontology: Do they not have that "I"m so and so and I approve this message" thing?

They do. And he does. Here's the ad.

Lost Thought 00: In his defense, I think he's refering to the RCCC, a national organization which helps elect Republican Congressmen, rather than his own personal campaign

No, see above. It's his ad.

Well, I take that back. He's just another dickhead who doesn't think anyone will do the bare minimum level of verification on what he says


The headline did identify him as a Republican...
 
2012-08-17 11:27:32 AM

Lost Thought 00: In his defense, I think he's refering to the RCCC, a national organization which helps elect Republican Congressmen, rather than his own personal campaign


I was wondering that, or a PAC or something.

Regardless, it was still a boneheaded response.
 
2012-08-17 11:27:45 AM
PARTY OF PERSONAL RESPONSIBILITY!!
 
2012-08-17 11:28:54 AM
But if a PAC puts out a negative ad about Romney, we can still criticize Obama for it as though it were put out by the President himself, right?
 
2012-08-17 11:31:53 AM

Lost Thought 00: He's just another dickhead who doesn't think anyone will do the bare minimum level of verification on what he says



Well, he IS making appeals to the Rebublican base...
 
2012-08-17 11:33:27 AM

Citrate1007: I want a leader with responsibility.....


BWAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH!!
 
2012-08-17 11:34:48 AM

THX 1138: But if a PAC puts out a negative ad about Romney, we can still criticize Obama for it as though it were put out by the President himself, right?


I don't understand their thinking here. If a candidate says anything about the content of ads run by a supporting PAC, doesn't that constitute the kind of coordination the FEC has banned?
 
2012-08-17 11:34:56 AM
So he wants to be given the responsibility to represent an entire state, but he can't even properly manage his own campaign?
 
2012-08-17 11:38:23 AM
www.philstockworld.com

"Pay no attention to that man behind the curtain!"
 
2012-08-17 11:39:59 AM

ad_rizzle: THX 1138: But if a PAC puts out a negative ad about Romney, we can still criticize Obama for it as though it were put out by the President himself, right?

I don't understand their thinking here. If a candidate says anything about the content of ads run by a supporting PAC, doesn't that constitute the kind of coordination the FEC has banned?


Yes, but republicans don't let things like "facts" get in the way of their faux-outrage as you can see. Just take what you consider reasonable and logical and turn it on its head and you have the insanity that is the republican party as it is.
 
2012-08-17 11:40:33 AM

ad_rizzle: THX 1138: But if a PAC puts out a negative ad about Romney, we can still criticize Obama for it as though it were put out by the President himself, right?

I don't understand their thinking here. If a candidate says anything about the content of ads run by a supporting PAC, doesn't that constitute the kind of coordination the FEC has banned?


No. The restriction is that they cannot coordinate Privately. Coordinating through public forums is acceptable, because everyone will have access to that information. For instance, Obama cannot secretly go up to a PAC and ask them to run a particular ad. However, Obama can give a speech saying he agrees with an ad or offer a line of attack which the PAC then picks up and airs ads based off of.
 
2012-08-17 11:42:02 AM

Aarontology: Do they not have that "I"m so and so and I approve this message" thing?


Yeah I was wondering this as well. Isn't this the entire point of the "I approved of this message" thing?
 
2012-08-17 11:42:13 AM

ad_rizzle: I don't understand their thinking here. If a candidate says anything about the content of ads run by a supporting PAC, doesn't that constitute the kind of coordination the FEC has banned?


I don't understand it either. When a PAC runs an ad, the Romney campaign often responds with something along the lines of "That was low. How dare you, Mr. President?" when they know full well that he had nothing to do with it.

Then again, the voters usually don't realize that, so it just feeds the masses I guess.
 
2012-08-17 11:42:55 AM

Lost Thought 00: Well, I take that back. He's just another dickhead who doesn't think anyone will do the bare minimum level of verification on what he says


The question is, is he that wrong? Sure, we might. But how many of us were going to vote for him to begin with (or would if we were in the state)?

RivenSilver: Senator Heller? Has anyone exposed him to a Mercer virus scanner recently?


Blacklight virus. Mercer was just patient zero.
 
2012-08-17 11:45:23 AM

Lost Thought 00: ad_rizzle: THX 1138: But if a PAC puts out a negative ad about Romney, we can still criticize Obama for it as though it were put out by the President himself, right?

I don't understand their thinking here. If a candidate says anything about the content of ads run by a supporting PAC, doesn't that constitute the kind of coordination the FEC has banned?

No. The restriction is that they cannot coordinate Privately.


Hahahahahaha. You don't think they actually follow this rule, do you?
 
2012-08-17 11:46:10 AM
Shouldn't this story have the plug tag?

i1114.photobucket.com

in NV... getting a kick.
 
2012-08-17 11:49:48 AM
Though, after RTFA. That is some weapons grade stupid right there.
 
2012-08-17 11:52:14 AM

bdub77: Hahahahahaha. You don't think they actually follow this rule, do you?


No, I don't. But I wasn't commenting on whether that was true, I was commenting on the specifics of the FEC restrictions on corrdination
 
2012-08-17 11:53:26 AM

Lord_Baull: Lost Thought 00: He's just another dickhead who doesn't think anyone will do the bare minimum level of verification on what he says


Well, he IS making appeals to the Rebublican base...


He should just cut to the chase and blame Obama.
 
2012-08-17 11:58:14 AM

Car_Ramrod: They do. And he does. Here's the ad.


*facepalm* what a moron.

lennavan: Yeah I was wondering this as well. Isn't this the entire point of the "I approved of this message" thing?


Yep. Its a CYA for when some other group does something really damned stupid. But when it's you saying you're OK with it...
 
2012-08-17 12:00:51 PM
His dog ate his homework.
 
2012-08-17 12:08:48 PM
Republican guide to things that are people: corporations.

Republican guide to things that are NOT people: political campaigns.
 
2012-08-17 12:11:23 PM

Aarontology: Car_Ramrod: They do. And he does. Here's the ad.

*facepalm* what a moron.



He taped that for a stock footage company. He had no idea that they would use it in a political ad, especially one favoring himself. He's just an innocent victim of circumstance here.
 
2012-08-17 12:21:40 PM

Lando Lincoln: This reminds me of "John McCain doesn't speak for the McCain campaign" of 2008. Good times.


I knew that sounded familiar......
 
2012-08-17 12:34:38 PM
"When I said 'I'm Dean Heller and I approve this message,' that was not intended to be a factual statement."

"I just blindly do what I'm told to by my staff. That's why I can guarantee that I'll blindly do what I'm told to do by the Koch Brothers."
 
2012-08-17 12:35:27 PM

Lord_Baull: PARTY OF PERSONAL RESPONSIBILITY!!


Ding ding ding!
 
2012-08-17 01:37:11 PM
"Right now, I'm just worried about jobs and the economy."

HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA!! OH WOW!
 
jvl
2012-08-17 03:13:41 PM

Aarontology: Do they not have that "I"m so and so and I approve this message" thing?


Yup. Was in Nevada last week when the attack ads were saturating the Olympic coverage and he did say that before each and every ad. 

As an aside... being from California it's a weird experience to go to a state which is in contention and actually see commercials from both presidential candidates.
 
2012-08-17 03:18:06 PM
I did NOT get into a fender bender with that Chevy last week. It was my car that got into the fender bender. I just happened to be behind the wheel when my car hit their car.
 
2012-08-18 02:12:46 AM
Overzealous staffer strikes again?
 
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