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(ABC)   Paul Ryan: "I did not ask for stimulus money." "What about these papers requesting stimulus money?" "Oooooh, THAT stimulus money. I thought you said 'syllabus honey'"   (abcnews.go.com) divider line 306
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2012-08-17 11:11:55 AM

MeinRS6: Wow. I've really been turned around on the importance of the VP slot by all of your super persuasive comments.

What's funny is that the some people that are talking about how important the job is are also comfortable with Joe farking Biden filling the position. That's brilliant.


On his dumbest day on the dumbest month of the dumbest year while simultaneously sleeping and suffering from brain hemmorhages Joe Biden is still smarter than every single farkwit in the entire GOP.

But I appreciate your genuine concern.
 
2012-08-17 11:15:00 AM

Debeo Summa Credo: I dont understand why these grandstanders wouldn't accept stimulus money (like Texas supposedly insisting it wouldn't take extra medicare money under Obamacare, and Ryan supposedly not being willing to take stimuls money).

You may think that a particular stimulus program is wasteful, and you might be right. But once it is happening anyway you might as well get your district's share. Otherwise you are doing a disservice to your own district/state to make some futile principled stand.


Exactly. It's just overzealous consitutent service. Totally a non-story.

Besides, if politicians don't do what their consituents ask them to do, how will they ever get elected so they can stop the socialistic wasteful spending that is destroying the fabric of this great nation?
 
2012-08-17 11:18:49 AM

Raharu: also in the event of the Presidents death, he must assume the role, so I would like him to be up to snuff.


Not to beat Mein's ridiculous comment to death but it's very common, even likely that the Vice President eventually runs for President. So worst case scenario, we could have to look at this guy for the next 16 years (assuming the country survives 4 republican Presidential terms).
 
2012-08-17 11:31:17 AM

MeinRS6: Wow. I've really been turned around on the importance of the VP slot by all of your super persuasive comments.

What's funny is that the some people that are talking about how important the job is are also comfortable with Joe farking Biden filling the position. That's brilliant.


What's funny is that Republicans were comfortable with Sarah farking Palin filling the position. That's brilliant.
 
2012-08-17 11:32:26 AM

Mugato: TIKIMAN87: I just like working for a living.

So vote for two guys who never have.


So Obama and Biden?

NOOOOO
 
2012-08-17 11:38:08 AM

Mugato: Raharu: also in the event of the Presidents death, he must assume the role, so I would like him to be up to snuff.

Not to beat Mein's ridiculous comment to death but it's very common, even likely that the Vice President eventually runs for President. So worst case scenario, we could have to look at this guy for the next 16 years (assuming the country survives 4 republican Presidential terms).


Good point.
 
2012-08-17 11:40:13 AM

TIKIMAN87: Mugato: TIKIMAN87: I just like working for a living.

So vote for two guys who never have.

So Obama and Biden?

NOOOOO


No, they both had real jobs. Clever quip though.
 
2012-08-17 11:40:24 AM

randomjsa: He just needed to provide proof that it would go to support a union and he was good to go. Dr. Mojo PhD: When a Republican:

1. Has no confidence in their own policies
2. Tacitly admits that the Democrats had the right policies
3. Which tacitly admits that his own policies were wrong
4. Which perforce means that he isn't capable of doing anything on his own and just constantly gainsays the people whose policies he knows work for political clout

1. Obama is running on his record, particularly ObamaCare, right?
2. Obama was completely against the troop surge, but then the withdrawal time table on Iraq and his ability to withdraw troops on a 'good' note depended on it.
3. As this is Obama we're talking about, he's never going to admit that, he's just going to take credit for something he didn't do.
4. The fact that you're trying to say this about a Republican while supporting Obama makes you a laughing stock of anyone who knows what is going on.


1. Yes. Obama's quite proud of it.
2. Wait, you think this is a bad thing?
3. So...Obama didn't do these things?
4. Uh-huh.
 
2012-08-17 11:41:55 AM

Raharu: You don't sound tired today, just ignorant
also in the event of the Presidents death, he must assume the role, so I would like him to be up to snuff.



There is that additional factor where Mittens is saying his economic plan is directly in-line with Ryan so where Ryan says one thing while doing the complete opposite gives us insight to what the administration may look like.
 
2012-08-17 11:48:14 AM

Headso: NateGrey: MeinRS6: So vote Democrat.

I think a lot of people will, thanks for the suggestion though!

[rove.com image 694x519]

it would be interesting to see that same map from 2008, 2004, 2000, to see how the demographics have changed.


Purple America

img.photobucket.com
 
2012-08-17 11:50:08 AM

MeinRS6: So vote Democrat.


You really don't get that meme, do you?
 
2012-08-17 11:51:09 AM

HotWingConspiracy: So no poll bump for Romney, and Ryan is going to be ruined after this.

[img.photobucket.com image 570x377]


Not a bump per se, but Romney's numbers stopped plummeting. That should resume shortly.
 
2012-08-17 12:04:33 PM

CPennypacker: MeinRS6: Wow. I've really been turned around on the importance of the VP slot by all of your super persuasive comments.

What's funny is that the some people that are talking about how important the job is are also comfortable with Joe farking Biden filling the position. That's brilliant.

On his dumbest day on the dumbest month of the dumbest year while simultaneously sleeping and suffering from brain hemmorhages Joe Biden is still smarter than every single farkwit in the entire GOP.

But I appreciate your genuine concern.


Bless your heart.

Keep chuggin' that delicious purple drank.
 
2012-08-17 12:06:11 PM

MeinRS6: CPennypacker: MeinRS6: Wow. I've really been turned around on the importance of the VP slot by all of your super persuasive comments.

What's funny is that the some people that are talking about how important the job is are also comfortable with Joe farking Biden filling the position. That's brilliant.

On his dumbest day on the dumbest month of the dumbest year while simultaneously sleeping and suffering from brain hemmorhages Joe Biden is still smarter than every single farkwit in the entire GOP.

But I appreciate your genuine concern.

Bless your heart.

Keep chuggin' that delicious purple drank.


Whatever. You guys have a lot to be proud of
 
2012-08-17 12:07:39 PM

Notabunny: Now with video goodness


Whoa. Retro "Portal" aperture.
 
2012-08-17 12:08:36 PM
Why don't these guys just admit it. That being a Congressman means asking for Federal money to improve things in your district. That's your job. Nothing to be ashamed of there, just be honest. That's what helps get you reelected.
 
2012-08-17 12:09:15 PM

SacriliciousBeerSwiller: HotWingConspiracy: So no poll bump for Romney, and Ryan is going to be ruined after this.

[img.photobucket.com image 570x377]

I love that photo so much. Biden looks like such an asshole there.


Yeah, but he's my kinda asshole.

media.screened.com
 
2012-08-17 12:10:15 PM

propasaurus: Somacandra: Bontesla: The article layout is terrible. . . which is sad . . . because this is awesome.

Here is a much more readable version from ABC's 'Political Punch.'

From your link:
"After having these letters called to my attention I checked into them, and they were treated as constituent service requests in the same way matters involving Social Security or Veterans Affairs are handled," Ryan said in a statement. "This is why I didn't recall the letters earlier. But they should have been handled differently, and I take responsibility for that.
"Regardless, it's clear that the Obama stimulus did nothing to stimulate the economy, and now the President is asking to do it all over again."

So, he only asked the federal government for money because some of his constituents wanted money. Is he saying that if anyone in his district had written to him asking for a federal handout, he would've gotten it for them?

And as GAT_00: says:
if they didn't work, if he knew they weren't going to work, why didn't the budget hawk reject them?


Yeah. At least the brainiacs in Florida and Louisiana were smart enough to say no to stimulus money. Of course, it just took their states down the drainpipe of economic hell that much sooner.
 
2012-08-17 12:13:17 PM
Based on the last 10 polls, Obama has to be pretty worried about the Gallup numbers:


Rasmussen Tracking Obama +1
Gallup Tracking Romney +2
CNN/Opinion Research Obama +7
Politico/GWU/Battleground Obama +1
IBD/CSM/TIPP Obama +7
FOX News Obama +9
Reuters/Ipsos Obama +7
Democracy Corps (D) Obama +4
Pew Research Obama +10
NBC News/Wall St. Jrnl Obama +6
 
2012-08-17 12:15:49 PM

Mugato: TIKIMAN87: Mugato: TIKIMAN87: I just like working for a living.

So vote for two guys who never have.

So Obama and Biden?

NOOOOO

No, they both had real jobs. Clever quip though.


A community organizer is not a real job.
 
2012-08-17 12:17:47 PM

TIKIMAN87: Mugato: TIKIMAN87: Mugato: TIKIMAN87: I just like working for a living.

So vote for two guys who never have.

So Obama and Biden?

NOOOOO

No, they both had real jobs. Clever quip though.

A community organizer is not a real job.


is POTUS/VPOTUS a real job?
 
2012-08-17 12:19:51 PM

mrshowrules: Based on the last 10 polls, Obama has to be pretty worried about the Gallup numbers:


Rasmussen Tracking Obama +1
Gallup Tracking Romney +2
CNN/Opinion Research Obama +7
Politico/GWU/Battleground Obama +1
IBD/CSM/TIPP Obama +7
FOX News Obama +9
Reuters/Ipsos Obama +7
Democracy Corps (D) Obama +4
Pew Research Obama +10
NBC News/Wall St. Jrnl Obama +6


Eh, according to Nate Silver, the Gallup poll's fundamentals have been GOP-leaning this cycle.
 
2012-08-17 12:19:55 PM

TIKIMAN87: Mugato: TIKIMAN87: Mugato: TIKIMAN87: I just like working for a living.

So vote for two guys who never have.

So Obama and Biden?

NOOOOO

No, they both had real jobs. Clever quip though.

A community organizer is not a real job.


How about law professor at a prestigious university? Is that a real job?
 
2012-08-17 12:22:02 PM

TIKIMAN87: Mugato: TIKIMAN87: Mugato: TIKIMAN87: I just like working for a living.

So vote for two guys who never have.

So Obama and Biden?

NOOOOO

No, they both had real jobs. Clever quip though.

A community organizer is not a real job.


Teaching law at the University of Chicago was a...hobby?
 
2012-08-17 12:24:21 PM

MeinRS6: doyner: Relatively Obscure: doyner: Unless, of course, he's one of those veeps that ascends to the presidency, which happens 20% of the time.

Dick Cheney cast 8 votes in the Senate.

And there's that too. So, yeah, the VP is relevant.

Right, but he cast the votes the way the president told him to. That's what a VP does. It wasn't ever up in the air if Cheney was going to vote with the Dems. However, he would have if instructed to do so.

VP Ryan isn't going to shape the budget or pass a budget. He isn't going to add or decrease funds to Medicare or Obamacare. He's going to do what Romney tells him to do. And Romney is half-a-lib, so I don't see the big concern from the left about Ryan. It's good politics to go after the guy, but in the end the VP job still isn't worth a bucket of warm spit. What has Biden done besides be a jackass?


Cheney essentially was the de facto president for 6 of the 8 years of Bush's term. Cheney relinquished the de facto control when the whole mess was so big and disastrous that he decided to wash his hands of the mess and let Bush get stuck with the problem.

You think Bush was the sole decider to go into Iraq and Afghanistan? You think Bush was the who wanted to pull back when the US military had OBL cornered in Tora Bora? You think Bush encouraged or allowed the Enron fiasco, the Bear Stearns, the Lehman Brothers, the Countrywide, the creation of DHS, TSA, NDAA, PATRIOT ACT? The real stupid thing that Bush did was ignore the reports that led to 9/11 and ignore the reports that led to Katrina. Bush was good at ignoring things and clearly brush in his ranch. Oh, and wiping the sand off beach volleyball players' butts.
 
2012-08-17 12:24:40 PM
Is there a single thing Romney and Ryan agree on, other than the idea that Romney should be President and Ryan should be Vice President? Romney has taken every possible position on every issue and still can't manage to find anything he has in common with Ryan.
 
2012-08-17 12:28:49 PM

CPennypacker: TIKIMAN87: Mugato: TIKIMAN87: Mugato: TIKIMAN87: I just like working for a living.

So vote for two guys who never have.

So Obama and Biden?

NOOOOO

No, they both had real jobs. Clever quip though.

A community organizer is not a real job.

is POTUS/VPOTUS a real job?


Not sure if serious or stupid.
 
2012-08-17 12:32:49 PM

dericwater: You think Bush was the sole decider to go into Iraq and Afghanistan? You think Bush was the who wanted to pull back when the US military had OBL cornered in Tora Bora? You think Bush encouraged or allowed the Enron fiasco, the Bear Stearns, the Lehman Brothers, the Countrywide, the creation of DHS, TSA, NDAA, PATRIOT ACT?


Probably not, it probably was all Cheney. But Bush rubber stamped it all and history will blame him for all of it, as it should be. I don't know enough about Ryan to know whether this would be a similar situation but Romney isn't exactly known for standing by his convictions. Or even having any convictions.
 
2012-08-17 12:33:44 PM

TIKIMAN87: CPennypacker: TIKIMAN87: Mugato: TIKIMAN87: Mugato: TIKIMAN87: I just like working for a living.

So vote for two guys who never have.

So Obama and Biden?

NOOOOO

No, they both had real jobs. Clever quip though.

A community organizer is not a real job.

is POTUS/VPOTUS a real job?

Not sure if serious or stupid.


I'm pretty sure you're stupid either way, but I can't tell if you're serious.
 
2012-08-17 12:40:47 PM

MeinRS6: So vote Democrat.


Successful troll is successful.
 
2012-08-17 12:45:06 PM

Carn: TIKIMAN87: Mugato: TIKIMAN87: Mugato: TIKIMAN87: I just like working for a living.

So vote for two guys who never have.

So Obama and Biden?

NOOOOO

No, they both had real jobs. Clever quip though.

A community organizer is not a real job.

How about law professor at a prestigious university? Is that a real job?


Maybe he should practice law as the POTUS instead of breaking it.
 
2012-08-17 12:48:47 PM

TIKIMAN87: Carn: TIKIMAN87: Mugato: TIKIMAN87: Mugato: TIKIMAN87: I just like working for a living.

So vote for two guys who never have.

So Obama and Biden?

NOOOOO

No, they both had real jobs. Clever quip though.

A community organizer is not a real job.

How about law professor at a prestigious university? Is that a real job?

Maybe he should practice law as the POTUS instead of breaking it.


Guess he's doing alright then.

The Supreme Court on Thursday upheld President Obama's health care overhaul law, saying its requirement that most Americans obtain insurance or pay a penalty was authorized by Congress's power to levy taxes.
 
2012-08-17 12:49:59 PM

Carn: TIKIMAN87: Carn: TIKIMAN87: Mugato: TIKIMAN87: Mugato: TIKIMAN87: I just like working for a living.

So vote for two guys who never have.

So Obama and Biden?

NOOOOO

No, they both had real jobs. Clever quip though.

A community organizer is not a real job.

How about law professor at a prestigious university? Is that a real job?

Maybe he should practice law as the POTUS instead of breaking it.

Guess he's doing alright then.

The Supreme Court on Thursday upheld President Obama's health care overhaul law, saying its requirement that most Americans obtain insurance or pay a penalty was authorized by Congress's power to levy taxes.


[Area Man Passionate Defender of What he Imagines the Constitution to be.html]
 
2012-08-17 12:50:10 PM

MeinRS6: Somacandra: MeinRS6: So vote Democrat.

Usually stating one political position while engaging in another suggests a lack of confidence in the stated position and desire to sacrifice stated principles for short-term personal gain. If Paul Ryan isn't confident and consistent in his own stated position on economic issues, as a voter how can I be confident in him?

Since the VP doesn't do anything in our system, I'm not sure how much confidence you need to have in him in the first place. I guess you need to have confidence that he can make it thru a state funeral without any big disasters. If Biden can do it, I'm pretty sure that anyone can.

Anyway, my comment was more about how this won't change a single vote.

Does anyone know if Ryan wants to put you people back in chains if he becomes VP? I need the official position if available.


You do realize people like Biden right? He is significantly more open an honest than most politicians. On top of that he is not caught in one hypocrisy after another like the boys you are in bed with.
 
2012-08-17 12:50:52 PM
Probably not, it probably was all Cheney. But Bush rubber stamped it all and history will blame him for all of it, as it should be. I don't know enough about Ryan to know whether this would be a similar situation but Romney isn't exactly known for standing by his convictions. Or even having any convictions.

It's not just Ryan, it's the entire cadre of Bush/Cheney advisers that are currently employed by the Romney campaign. I have no reason to doubt that those interests (along with Rove, Koch brothers, Adelson, etc) would own Romney's presidency outright.

All Romney cares about is the job title. He has no interest in setting policy or making decisions on his own.
 
kab
2012-08-17 12:51:07 PM

MeinRS6: Since the VP doesn't do anything in our system, I'm not sure how much confidence you need to have in him in the first place. I don't have the first clue about how government in the US works


Noted, for future reference
 
2012-08-17 12:51:09 PM

CPennypacker: TIKIMAN87: CPennypacker: TIKIMAN87: Mugato: TIKIMAN87: Mugato: TIKIMAN87: I just like working for a living.

So vote for two guys who never have.

So Obama and Biden?

NOOOOO

No, they both had real jobs. Clever quip though.

A community organizer is not a real job.

is POTUS/VPOTUS a real job?

Not sure if serious or stupid.

I'm pretty sure you're stupid either way, but I can't tell if you're serious.


Go away SHEEP.
 
2012-08-17 12:51:33 PM

TIKIMAN87: Maybe he should practice law as the POTUS instead of breaking it.


Breaking it? LOL, who do you think we're talking about, Bush?
 
kab
2012-08-17 12:54:21 PM

TIKIMAN87:
A community organizer is not a real job.


Owning a dressage horse on the other hand...
 
2012-08-17 12:56:14 PM

TIKIMAN87: CPennypacker: TIKIMAN87: CPennypacker: TIKIMAN87: Mugato: TIKIMAN87: Mugato: TIKIMAN87: I just like working for a living.

So vote for two guys who never have.

So Obama and Biden?

NOOOOO

No, they both had real jobs. Clever quip though.

A community organizer is not a real job.

is POTUS/VPOTUS a real job?

Not sure if serious or stupid.

I'm pretty sure you're stupid either way, but I can't tell if you're serious.

Go away SHEEP.


You're not trying very hard with your trolling today. Perhaps a vacation is in order? Remember to submit your request to Drew first.
 
2012-08-17 12:57:28 PM

Dr Dreidel: Carn: TIKIMAN87: Carn: TIKIMAN87: Mugato: TIKIMAN87: Mugato: TIKIMAN87: I just like working for a living.

So vote for two guys who never have.

So Obama and Biden?

NOOOOO

No, they both had real jobs. Clever quip though.

A community organizer is not a real job.

How about law professor at a prestigious university? Is that a real job?

Maybe he should practice law as the POTUS instead of breaking it.

Guess he's doing alright then.

The Supreme Court on Thursday upheld President Obama's health care overhaul law, saying its requirement that most Americans obtain insurance or pay a penalty was authorized by Congress's power to levy taxes.

[Area Man Passionate Defender of What he Imagines the Constitution to be.html]


Seriously.
 
2012-08-17 12:57:40 PM

CPennypacker: You're not trying very hard with your trolling today. Perhaps a vacation is in order? Remember to submit your request to Drew first.


burn.
 
2012-08-17 01:02:58 PM

MeinRS6: Wow. I've really been turned around on the importance of the VP slot by all of your super persuasive comments.

What's funny is that the some people that are talking about how important the job is are also comfortable with Joe farking Biden filling the position. That's brilliant.


given the last few choices, Cheny, Palin, Edwards, Gore, Kemp, Bradley, Choate, Quayle, or Stockdale
Yeah i'll take Biden
 
2012-08-17 01:04:08 PM

cameroncrazy1984: mrshowrules: Based on the last 10 polls, Obama has to be pretty worried about the Gallup numbers:


Rasmussen Tracking Obama +1
Gallup Tracking Romney +2
CNN/Opinion Research Obama +7
Politico/GWU/Battleground Obama +1
IBD/CSM/TIPP Obama +7
FOX News Obama +9
Reuters/Ipsos Obama +7
Democracy Corps (D) Obama +4
Pew Research Obama +10
NBC News/Wall St. Jrnl Obama +6

Eh, according to Nate Silver, the Gallup poll's fundamentals have been GOP-leaning this cycle.


I was being facetious. 1 poll in 10 (Gallup's) has Romney up. Are you saying that Nate Silver is saying that Gallop has a right-wing bias? That would certainly explain alot.
 
US1
2012-08-17 01:12:04 PM

Quasar: Lionel Mandrake: MeinRS6: So vote Democrat.

Well, let's see...I'm not a billionaire, so, yes! I will vote Democrat!

But I might be one day so I won't!


HAAA!!!! HAAAA!!! Good one. So thats why trailer trash vote republican ; uhh cause i might be one day
 
2012-08-17 01:12:50 PM

mrshowrules: Are you saying that Nate Silver is saying that Gallop has a right-wing bias? That would certainly explain alot.


I think "Gallop" would be the perfect name for that organization. They need this to be a horse-race, and it isn't a horse-race if one of the horses stumbles out of the gate half-drunk with two tranq darts in its ass. They are being absurdly generous to the Romney campaign in order to make the polls come out 50/50.
 
2012-08-17 01:22:40 PM

Wyalt Derp: Paul Lyin'.


That's lacists.
 
2012-08-17 01:25:10 PM

Bigdogdaddy: All I know is that my 401k tanked during the second term of GW but this year alon I have made almost 10% on my investments (which isn't great compared to professionals) but that's a damn site better than what it did under George the Lesser. Had we not done anything about the economy, I have no doubt that it would have gone down farther, possibly losing all value. I'll stick with Obama/Biden over Romney/Ryan even though there are a lot of things that I disagree with him on.

Yeah, "I got mine biatch". Suck it GOP loving shills


I started by 401(k) during the Clinton administration. It went through the roof. I literally watched it grow on a daily basis. Then it stagnated during Bush's time. Now it's coming back up. So who do I want as president to help my 401(k) grow? Democrats!
 
2012-08-17 01:26:54 PM

CPennypacker: TIKIMAN87: CPennypacker: TIKIMAN87: CPennypacker: TIKIMAN87: Mugato: TIKIMAN87: Mugato: TIKIMAN87: I just like working for a living.

So vote for two guys who never have.

So Obama and Biden?

NOOOOO

No, they both had real jobs. Clever quip though.

A community organizer is not a real job.

is POTUS/VPOTUS a real job?

Not sure if serious or stupid.

I'm pretty sure you're stupid either way, but I can't tell if you're serious.

Go away SHEEP.

You're not trying very hard with your trolling today. Perhaps a vacation is in order? Remember to submit your request to Drew first.


Quiet you! Shush!
 
2012-08-17 01:30:04 PM

TIKIMAN87: NateGrey: TIKIMAN87: MeinRS6: So vote Democrat.

I'm voting for the white guys.

You sound Republican.

I just like working for a living.


And yet, here you are on Fark during office hours.
 
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