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2012-08-17 09:05:05 AM  

Cythraul: MeinRS6: So vote Democrat.

I'm gay, so I have to vote Democrat.


Not true. You could be closeted.
 
2012-08-17 09:05:07 AM  

freethoughtblogs.com

 
2012-08-17 09:16:53 AM  

Cythraul: MeinRS6: So vote Democrat.

I'm gay, so I have to vote Democrat.


You're on to a potential meme here

I'm ____________ so I have to vote democrat

Gay
female
pro separation of church and state
for helping poor and unfortunate people
christian
not christian
a father of girls
a minority
an immigrant
concerned about corporate power over government
concerned about income disparity
sane
etc....
 
2012-08-17 09:20:25 AM  

SpectroBoy: Cythraul: MeinRS6: So vote Democrat.

I'm gay, so I have to vote Democrat.

You're on to a potential meme here

I'm ____________ so I have to vote democrat

Gay
female
pro separation of church and state
for helping poor and unfortunate people
christian
not christian
a father of girls
a minority
an immigrant
concerned about corporate power over government
concerned about income disparity
sane
etc....


Christian? I guess I'm being a bit prejudiced here, but if 'Christian' was an important term in defining who I am, wouldn't I most likely vote Republican?
 
2012-08-17 09:20:42 AM  

SpectroBoy: Cythraul: MeinRS6: So vote Democrat.

I'm gay, so I have to vote Democrat.

You're on to a potential meme here

I'm ____________ so I have to vote democrat

Gay
female
pro separation of church and state
for helping poor and unfortunate people
christian
not christian
a father of girls
a minority
an immigrant
concerned about corporate power over government
concerned about income disparity
sane
etc....


"in possession of a working brain"
 
2012-08-17 09:24:24 AM  
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2012-08-17 09:28:28 AM  

MeinRS6: Since the VP doesn't do anything in our system, I'm not sure how much confidence you need to have in him in the first place


Translation: When Ryan farks up, I downplay it, make excuses, or outright dismiss it as irrelevant because hey, he's only 2nd in charge. But the next time Biden makes a gaffe, real or imagined, he's suddenly a heartbeat from the presidency and must be held to high standards, and you will spend an entire thread excoriating him. This is a pretty big cop-out, even for you.

MeinRS6: Does anyone know if Ryan wants to put you people back in chains if he becomes VP? I need the official position if available.


Oh wait, you did it in the same post. Btw, it was "ya'll," not "you people." But you already knew that. Yet you even italicized your own BS.

You may be comfortable making excuses for Ryan because the VP "does nothing," but I'm not. If the man makes his living railing against a program he sought to benefit from, that's wrong, and sheds light on whether or not his ideas are conviction or cheap ploy.
 
2012-08-17 09:29:27 AM  

Cythraul: Christian? I guess I'm being a bit prejudiced here, but if 'Christian' was an important term in defining who I am, wouldn't I most likely vote Republican?


I think he meant "Christian" as "follower of Christ" not the GOP-approved "cherry pick the parts I like, ignore the rest" kind.
 
2012-08-17 09:29:51 AM  

Skleenar: [img402.imageshack.us image 638x226]


+1
 
2012-08-17 09:29:52 AM  

Cythraul: Christian? I guess I'm being a bit prejudiced here, but if 'Christian' was an important term in defining who I am, wouldn't I most likely vote Republican?


Well it depends. Do you actually believe what Jesus Christ said in the Gospels about humbly supporting the weakest in society and rejecting the material comforts of the world?
 
2012-08-17 09:30:36 AM  

DeltaPunch:

My god, it must have been incredibly painful for Cheney to hold that smile for a full 2-3 seconds... poor guy


Are you kidding? He'd just think about no-bid Halliburton contracts and his blind trust, and spontaneously get a stiffy.
 
2012-08-17 09:31:27 AM  

Cythraul: Christian? I guess I'm being a bit prejudiced here, but if 'Christian' was an important term in defining who I am, wouldn't I most likely vote Republican?


That's what I don't get. Many people think that.

However, when I read about what Jesus said, and then compare the parties I can not understand why Christians don't flock to the democratic party.

The Democrats want to help the poor and the sick. The consistently try to help the less fortunate against the wishes of the GOP.

The GOP pays lip service to some religious issues (gheys are icky, no abortions, "family values"), but that's all they do. They have not moved the ball forward on these issues, and in other areas they are anti Christian (pro war, against helping the poor, the sick, immigrants, etc.)

I was raised Catholic and went through 12+ years of CCD and I feel like democrats are closer to what we learned in those classes.

If I am missing something, let me know.

To me, it seems the skill the GOP has the most is convincing people to vote against their own self interests.
 
2012-08-17 09:32:02 AM  
So the stimulus didn't work, but you helped get stimulus money for your district. The stimulus didn't create any jobs, so a construction crew must just have buried that pile of money in a park somewhere. For free. The stimulus was a failure, and you hitched your wagon to it (sort of a leitmotif for Ryan, I guess).
 
2012-08-17 09:34:24 AM  

Dr Dreidel: leitmotif


Commie words.
 
2012-08-17 09:34:42 AM  

GarySZ: I think he meant "Christian" as "follower of Christ" not the GOP-approved "cherry pick the parts I like, ignore the rest" kind.


Exactly.

Not the trickle down Republican jesus who loves guns, war, and preaches the prosperity gospel. I meant the hippie Jesus who wants us to help the poor and sick and love each other. The "let he without sin cast the first stone" guy.
 
2012-08-17 09:35:24 AM  
This election... is not gonna be close.
 
2012-08-17 09:36:34 AM  

NateGrey: TIKIMAN87: MeinRS6: So vote Democrat.

I'm voting for the white guys.

You sound Republican.


I just like working for a living.
 
2012-08-17 09:36:48 AM  

Car_Ramrod: MeinRS6: What has Biden done besides be a jackass?

Biden delivers emotional speech to families of fallen troops

W.H.: Joe Biden forced President Obama's hand on gay marriage

And that was just within 3 weeks. Biden is a badass.


Dude, it's useless....he'll just run away and go threadshiat on another topic. Dickless wonder that he is.
 
2012-08-17 09:36:57 AM  

SpectroBoy: Not the trickle down Republican jesus who loves guns, war, and preaches the prosperity gospel.


www.tin-god.com
 
2012-08-17 09:37:20 AM  

MeinRS6: So vote Democrat.


Absolutely. These farking Republicans are going to give more tax breaks to millionaires. What about the poor and middle class?
 
2012-08-17 09:39:03 AM  

TIKIMAN87: NateGrey: TIKIMAN87: MeinRS6: So vote Democrat.

I'm voting for the white guys.

You sound Republican.

I just like working for a living.


Is Obama going to fire you when he gets re elected?
 
2012-08-17 09:40:42 AM  

SpectroBoy: Cythraul: Christian? I guess I'm being a bit prejudiced here, but if 'Christian' was an important term in defining who I am, wouldn't I most likely vote Republican?

That's what I don't get. Many people think that.

However, when I read about what Jesus said, and then compare the parties I can not understand why Christians don't flock to the democratic party.

The Democrats want to help the poor and the sick. The consistently try to help the less fortunate against the wishes of the GOP.

The GOP pays lip service to some religious issues (gheys are icky, no abortions, "family values"), but that's all they do. They have not moved the ball forward on these issues, and in other areas they are anti Christian (pro war, against helping the poor, the sick, immigrants, etc.)

I was raised Catholic and went through 12+ years of CCD and I feel like democrats are closer to what we learned in those classes.

If I am missing something, let me know.

To me, it seems the skill the GOP has the most is convincing people to vote against their own self interests.


BUT ABORTION AND BIRTH CONTROL
 
2012-08-17 09:41:00 AM  

Cythraul: SpectroBoy: Cythraul: MeinRS6: So vote Democrat.

I'm gay, so I have to vote Democrat.

You're on to a potential meme here

I'm ____________ so I have to vote democrat

Gay
female
pro separation of church and state
for helping poor and unfortunate people
christian
not christian
a father of girls
a minority
an immigrant
concerned about corporate power over government
concerned about income disparity
sane
etc....

Christian? I guess I'm being a bit prejudiced here, but if 'Christian' was an important term in defining who I am, wouldn't I most likely vote Republican?


Here's a graph from the 2008 election (figures are percentages of the vote); draw your own conclusions!

pewresearch.org

http://pewresearch.org/pubs/1112/religion-vote-2008-election
 
2012-08-17 09:42:56 AM  

TIKIMAN87: MeinRS6: So vote Democrat.

I'm voting for the white guys.


Of course you are.
 
2012-08-17 09:47:46 AM  
Let me get this straight...

Things Paul Ryan likes:

TARP
Auto bailout
Stimulus

Thing Paul ryan doesn't like:

Medicare

Things teabaggers don't like:

TARP
Auto bailout
Stimulus

Things teabaggers like:

Medicare
Paul Ryan


F*cking. Idiots.
 
2012-08-17 09:50:05 AM  
CHECK HIS VOTING RECORD

The only thing fiscally conservative about this schmuck is his budget, which he pushed knowing full well that it had no chance in hell to pass. His budget was just a PR stunt to rile up the TeaTards in his district and when it worked other GOP creepers tried to ride his coat-tails.......

/Party Above Country
 
2012-08-17 09:52:01 AM  

Carn: This election... is not gonna be close.


i49.tinypic.com


Very Close.....
 
2012-08-17 09:59:17 AM  

Philip Francis Queeg: Well it depends. Do you actually believe what Jesus Christ said in the Gospels about humbly supporting the weakest in society and rejecting the material comforts of the world?



4.bp.blogspot.com

 
2012-08-17 10:01:55 AM  

MeinRS6: Somacandra: MeinRS6: So vote Democrat.

Usually stating one political position while engaging in another suggests a lack of confidence in the stated position and desire to sacrifice stated principles for short-term personal gain. If Paul Ryan isn't confident and consistent in his own stated position on economic issues, as a voter how can I be confident in him?

Since the VP doesn't do anything in our system,

Yeah, Dick Cheney just sat around twiddling his thumbs for 8 years. Made utterly no difference in anything. Just waiting for a tie vote in the Senate to break, or something to happen to the President. Just a-sittin' and a-grinnin', ayup.

I'm not sure how much confidence you need to have in him in the first place. I guess you need to have confidence that he can make it thru a state funeral without any big disasters. If Biden can do it, I'm pretty sure that anyone can.

Anyway, my comment was more about how this won't change a single vote.


Totally. Just like the selection of Palin made utterly no difference in the 08 election.

Does anyone know if Ryan wants to put *you people* back in chains if he becomes VP? I need the official position if available.

Nice try. No, strike that, pathetic and desperate try. (Almost typed "derpserate", good thing spell check caught it.)
 
2012-08-17 10:02:20 AM  
In his defense, he probably receives hundreds of requests from cronies wanting to milk the system. How is he supposed to keep track of which ones are for programs he directly opposed - all the money is the same shade of green.
 
2012-08-17 10:02:35 AM  

Quasar: Lionel Mandrake: MeinRS6: So vote Democrat.

Well, let's see...I'm not a billionaire, so, yes! I will vote Democrat!

But I might be one day so I won't!


This. I have an inside track on where some money will be trickling down and I got me a bucket.
 
2012-08-17 10:07:35 AM  

MeinRS6: Somacandra: MeinRS6: So vote Democrat.

Usually stating one political position while engaging in another suggests a lack of confidence in the stated position and desire to sacrifice stated principles for short-term personal gain. If Paul Ryan isn't confident and consistent in his own stated position on economic issues, as a voter how can I be confident in him?

Since the VP doesn't do anything in our system, I'm not sure how much confidence you need to have in him in the first place. I guess you need to have confidence that he can make it thru a state funeral without any big disasters. If Biden can do it, I'm pretty sure that anyone can.

Anyway, my comment was more about how this won't change a single vote.

Does anyone know if Ryan wants to put you people back in chains if he becomes VP? I need the official position if available.


So One candidate can talk about "un-chaining" wall Street and that's Okay but if the other candidate flips the mataphor that's racist? Got it
 
2012-08-17 10:12:03 AM  

MeinRS6: doyner: Relatively Obscure: doyner: Unless, of course, he's one of those veeps that ascends to the presidency, which happens 20% of the time.

Dick Cheney cast 8 votes in the Senate.

And there's that too. So, yeah, the VP is relevant.

Right, but he cast the votes the way the president told him to. That's what a VP does. It wasn't ever up in the air if Cheney was going to vote with the Dems. However, he would have if instructed to do so.

VP Ryan isn't going to shape the budget or pass a budget. He isn't going to add or decrease funds to Medicare or Obamacare. He's going to do what Romney tells him to do. And Romney is half-a-lib, so I don't see the big concern from the left about Ryan. It's good politics to go after the guy, but in the end the VP job still isn't worth a bucket of warm spit. What has Biden done besides be a jackass?


You may want to read this book:
Angler : The Shadow Presidency of Dick Cheney and then get back to me about how irrelevent the VP is especially Cheney
 
2012-08-17 10:13:22 AM  

TIKIMAN87: NateGrey: TIKIMAN87: MeinRS6: So vote Democrat.

I'm voting for the white guys.

You sound Republican.

I just like working for a living.


So your boss is holding your job hostage contingent on your vote? If only there were a federal commission whose job it was to investigate and punish such behavior.
 
2012-08-17 10:16:27 AM  

one small post for man: I like how MeinRS6 is pretending


He always is... and while I do enjoy playing pretend with my children, I don't like playing pretend with their future. So... fark that guy.
 
2012-08-17 10:22:08 AM  

NateGrey: Carn: This election... is not gonna be close.

[i49.tinypic.com image 374x605]


Very Close.....


So there's only a 30% chance that our economy will be further ruined. Not bad but I'd like better odds still.
 
2012-08-17 10:26:28 AM  

TIKIMAN87: I just like working for a living.


So vote for two guys who never have.
 
2012-08-17 10:26:31 AM  
The media really should be questioning Ryan on this. But they probably won't. No wisea$$ comment here, just sadness.
 
2012-08-17 10:33:16 AM  
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2012-08-17 10:34:56 AM  

Bontesla: layout

I disagree with the page layout assessment. I opened it up on my monitor and loved how I was able to read the entire article easily on my monitor without scrolling. It was like reading a newspaper.

 
2012-08-17 10:48:20 AM  

TIKIMAN87: NateGrey: TIKIMAN87: MeinRS6: So vote Democrat.

I'm voting for the white guys.

You sound Republican.

I just like working for a living.


Is that what you're doing right now?
 
2012-08-17 10:49:18 AM  

MeinRS6:

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Since the VP doesn't do anything in our system, I'm not sure how much confidence you need to have in him in the first place. I guess you need to have confidence that he can make it thru a state funeral without any big disasters. If Biden can do it, I'm pretty sure that anyone can.

Anyway, my comment was more about how this won't change a single vote.

Does anyone know if Ryan wants to put you people back in chains if he becomes VP? I need the official position if available.

 
img849.imageshack.us

You don't sound tired today, just ignorant
also in the event of the Presidents death, he must assume the role, so I would like him to be up to snuff.
 
2012-08-17 10:51:56 AM  
I dont understand why these grandstanders wouldn't accept stimulus money (like Texas supposedly insisting it wouldn't take extra medicare money under Obamacare, and Ryan supposedly not being willing to take stimuls money).

You may think that a particular stimulus program is wasteful, and you might be right. But once it is happening anyway you might as well get your district's share. Otherwise you are doing a disservice to your own district/state to make some futile principled stand.
 
2012-08-17 10:59:27 AM  
Wow. I've really been turned around on the importance of the VP slot by all of your super persuasive comments.

What's funny is that the some people that are talking about how important the job is are also comfortable with Joe farking Biden filling the position. That's brilliant.
 
2012-08-17 11:02:38 AM  

Raharu: MeinRS6:

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Since the VP doesn't do anything in our system, I'm not sure how much confidence you need to have in him in the first place. I guess you need to have confidence that he can make it thru a state funeral without any big disasters. If Biden can do it, I'm pretty sure that anyone can.

Anyway, my comment was more about how this won't change a single vote.

Does anyone know if Ryan wants to put you people back in chains if he becomes VP? I need the official position if available. 
[img849.imageshack.us image 320x144]

You don't sound tired today, just ignorant
also in the event of the Presidents death, he must assume the role, so I would like him to be up to snuff.


In fairness, I think that Mitt might have chose Ryan as a life insurance policy. Same as McCain. Even if he won, there is no way in Hells that ANYONE will shoot him while in office, because no one wants to see Ryan anywhere near the Big Chair...
 
2012-08-17 11:05:51 AM  

hubiestubert: Raharu: MeinRS6:

[img209.imageshack.us image 320x75]

Since the VP doesn't do anything in our system, I'm not sure how much confidence you need to have in him in the first place. I guess you need to have confidence that he can make it thru a state funeral without any big disasters. If Biden can do it, I'm pretty sure that anyone can.

Anyway, my comment was more about how this won't change a single vote.

Does anyone know if Ryan wants to put you people back in chains if he becomes VP? I need the official position if available. 
[img849.imageshack.us image 320x144]

You don't sound tired today, just ignorant
also in the event of the Presidents death, he must assume the role, so I would like him to be up to snuff.

In fairness, I think that Mitt might have chose Ryan as a life insurance policy. Same as McCain. Even if he won, there is no way in Hells that ANYONE will shoot him while in office, because no one wants to see Ryan anywhere near the Big Chair...


That doesn't take into account that the type of person who supports Ryan and Palin are probably the most likely to shoot the President.
 
2012-08-17 11:06:52 AM  

MeinRS6: What's funny is that the some people that are talking about...


who you callin the some people?
 
2012-08-17 11:06:57 AM  

Debeo Summa Credo: You may think that a particular stimulus program is wasteful, and you might be right. But once it is happening anyway you might as well get your district's share. Otherwise you are doing a disservice to your own district/state to make some futile principled stand.


If the spending isn't beneficial, doesn't create any jobs, and doesn't do any good for your economy, then what's the point of accepting it?

That's my biggest issue. I get why they're taking the money. I don't get why they are allowed to take the money and then get away with pretending like the money isn't useful. They're directly violating their own alleged economic philosophy in taking the money by admitting it is indeed useful.
 
2012-08-17 11:10:43 AM  

HotWingConspiracy: So no poll bump for Romney, and Ryan is going to be ruined after this.

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I love that photo so much. Biden looks like such an asshole there.
 
2012-08-17 11:11:55 AM  

MeinRS6: Wow. I've really been turned around on the importance of the VP slot by all of your super persuasive comments.

What's funny is that the some people that are talking about how important the job is are also comfortable with Joe farking Biden filling the position. That's brilliant.


On his dumbest day on the dumbest month of the dumbest year while simultaneously sleeping and suffering from brain hemmorhages Joe Biden is still smarter than every single farkwit in the entire GOP.

But I appreciate your genuine concern.
 
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