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(ABC)   Paul Ryan: "I did not ask for stimulus money." "What about these papers requesting stimulus money?" "Oooooh, THAT stimulus money. I thought you said 'syllabus honey'"   (abcnews.go.com) divider line 305
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2012-08-16 10:18:18 PM  
Two years ago, during an interview on WBZ's NewsRadio he was asked by a caller if he "accepted any money" into his district. Ryan said he did not. . . "I'm not one [of those] people who votes for something then writes to the government to ask them to send us money. I did not request any stimulus money," the congressman answered.

In 2009, Ryan wrote to Energy Secretary Steven Chu and Labor Secretary Hilda Solis asking for stimulus money to cover costs on two energy conservation projects in his home state of Wisconsin. In the letter, Ryan said the funds would help create jobs and reduce "energy consumption" in the state. At least one of the companies received the requested cash.


The article layout is terrible. . . which is sad . . . because this is awesome.
 
2012-08-16 10:22:23 PM  
So vote Democrat.
 
2012-08-16 10:42:56 PM  
"The stimulus didn't stimulate the economy"? Is that from the Retard School of Economics?
 
2012-08-16 10:43:34 PM  
Hey girl...
 
2012-08-16 10:47:41 PM  

MeinRS6: So vote Democrat.


Because of the usual Republican hypocrisy? Sounds good.
 
2012-08-16 10:51:12 PM  

Marcus Aurelius: "The stimulus didn't stimulate the economy"? Is that from the Retard School of Economics?


Which then begs the question: if they didn't work, if he knew they weren't going to work, why didn't the budget hawk reject them?
 
2012-08-16 10:54:59 PM  

MeinRS6: So vote Democrat.


With your permission, sir.
 
2012-08-16 11:05:33 PM  

MeinRS6: So vote Democrat.


Well, let's see...I'm not a billionaire, so, yes! I will vote Democrat!
 
2012-08-16 11:33:22 PM  

Lionel Mandrake: MeinRS6: So vote Democrat.

Well, let's see...I'm not a billionaire, so, yes! I will vote Democrat!


But I might be one day so I won't!
 
2012-08-16 11:44:36 PM  

Bontesla: The article layout is terrible. . . which is sad . . . because this is awesome.


Here is a much more readable version from ABC's 'Political Punch.'
 
2012-08-16 11:49:07 PM  
Didn't he also vote for the bank bailouts?


Quasar: Lionel Mandrake: MeinRS6: So vote Democrat.

Well, let's see...I'm not a billionaire, so, yes! I will vote Democrat!

But I might be one day so I won't!

 

i49.tinypic.com
 
2012-08-16 11:49:59 PM  

MeinRS6: So vote Democrat.


Usually stating one political position while engaging in another suggests a lack of confidence in the stated position and desire to sacrifice stated principles for short-term personal gain. If Paul Ryan isn't confident and consistent in his own stated position on economic issues, as a voter how can I be confident in him?
 
2012-08-16 11:52:20 PM  
Is it just me or is this set of GOP candidates even more insane than the set from 2008??
Could we have a run off election between the sets?
 
2012-08-17 12:01:17 AM  
Maddow rerun on it RIGHT NOW.
 
2012-08-17 12:04:41 AM  

Somacandra: MeinRS6: So vote Democrat.

Usually stating one political position while engaging in another suggests a lack of confidence in the stated position and desire to sacrifice stated principles for short-term personal gain. If Paul Ryan isn't confident and consistent in his own stated position on economic issues, as a voter how can I be confident in him?


Since the VP doesn't do anything in our system, I'm not sure how much confidence you need to have in him in the first place. I guess you need to have confidence that he can make it thru a state funeral without any big disasters. If Biden can do it, I'm pretty sure that anyone can.

Anyway, my comment was more about how this won't change a single vote.

Does anyone know if Ryan wants to put you people back in chains if he becomes VP? I need the official position if available.
 
2012-08-17 12:10:56 AM  

Somacandra: Bontesla: The article layout is terrible. . . which is sad . . . because this is awesome.

Here is a much more readable version from ABC's 'Political Punch.'


From your link:
"After having these letters called to my attention I checked into them, and they were treated as constituent service requests in the same way matters involving Social Security or Veterans Affairs are handled," Ryan said in a statement. "This is why I didn't recall the letters earlier. But they should have been handled differently, and I take responsibility for that.
"Regardless, it's clear that the Obama stimulus did nothing to stimulate the economy, and now the President is asking to do it all over again."


So, he only asked the federal government for money because some of his constituents wanted money. Is he saying that if anyone in his district had written to him asking for a federal handout, he would've gotten it for them?

And as GAT_00: says:
if they didn't work, if he knew they weren't going to work, why didn't the budget hawk reject them?
 
2012-08-17 12:12:02 AM  

MeinRS6: you people


Please acknowledge Mrs. Romney, whom you are quoting.
 
2012-08-17 12:12:10 AM  

MeinRS6: Since the VP doesn't do anything in our system


Inaccurate.

MeinRS6: Anyway, my comment was more about how this won't change a single vote.


Probably accurate.

MeinRS6: Does anyone know if Ryan wants to put you people back in chains if he becomes VP? I need the official position if available.


2.bp.blogspot.com

Chains cost money.
 
2012-08-17 12:13:32 AM  
At some point, these cats have got to realize that records ARE actually kept.

Romney seems to have difficulty in understanding that words aren't just deleted when he can't see them any longer. What is astounding is that these folks have convinced themselves that everyone has goldfish-like memories, and to be fair, there are some in the media who seem bound and determined to prove exactly that--and to be fairer, they are paid to keep their memories somewhat fluid when it comes to inconvenient facts--and Ryan appears to be infected with the same malady...

In the end, it shows a disrespect for their electorate, and the people that they want to represent. Or rather, that they say that they want to represent. The interests that they actually represent do have keen memories, but at this point, they have to bring out the bread and circuses to at least appear like they have more interests at heart...
 
2012-08-17 12:13:51 AM  
"If Congressman Ryan is asked to help a Wisconsin entity applying for existing Federal grant funds, he does not believe flawed policy should get in the way of doing his job and providing a legitimate constituent service to his employers," the spokesman told the Milwaukee (Wisc.) Journal Sentinel.

That's fine. So.. don't lie about it? Consider the possibility of not lying about it? How does not lying about it strike you?
 
2012-08-17 12:15:05 AM  
Subby, if you were reading a food critic's article, and he was talking about how bad the food was at such-and-such restaurant, and then you came to find out that he had never even been in that restaurant but was only critiquing it one what he'd head, would you trust his critique?

No, of course you wouldn't. I can tell, because from your headline I see you're a smart person.

So let me ask you this: if a man who wanted to fix America and thought that the Stimulus was bad didn't at least try the Stimulus out before he decided against it -- I mean sample its flavors and swish its body around on his tongue, kick the tires and take it out for a bit of a test drive to see what it could really do -- would you have any reason to trust his analysis?

Of course not. And you're welcome.
 
2012-08-17 12:15:44 AM  
Paul Ryan, Ron Paul. Different names, same hypocrisy.
 
2012-08-17 12:17:06 AM  

Relatively Obscure: "If Congressman Ryan is asked to help a Wisconsin entity applying for existing Federal grant funds, he does not believe flawed policy should get in the way of doing his job and providing a legitimate constituent service to his employers," the spokesman told the Milwaukee (Wisc.) Journal Sentinel.

That's fine. So.. don't lie about it? Consider the possibility of not lying about it? How does not lying about it strike you?


He's a Republican. Why don't you ask him to not breathe the air? It would be easier for him.
 
2012-08-17 12:18:05 AM  

Relatively Obscure: MeinRS6: Since the VP doesn't do anything in our system

Inaccurate.


A VP does as he is told. Ya know, warm bucket of spit and all that.

MeinRS6: Anyway, my comment was more about how this won't change a single vote.

Probably accurate.


Ah, sweet agreement.
 
2012-08-17 12:20:36 AM  

MeinRS6: Relatively Obscure: MeinRS6: Since the VP doesn't do anything in our system

Inaccurate.

A VP does as he is told. Ya know, warm bucket of spit and all that.


Maybe. A VP still does something sometimes. It ain't much, overall, maybe. But the office has functions. Therefore, "doesn't do anything" is inaccurate. Neener.
 
2012-08-17 12:21:25 AM  

Pocket Ninja: Subby, if you were reading a food critic's article, and he was talking about how bad the food was at such-and-such restaurant, and then you came to find out that he had never even been in that restaurant but was only critiquing it one what he'd head, would you trust his critique?

No, of course you wouldn't. I can tell, because from your headline I see you're a smart person.

So let me ask you this: if a man who wanted to fix America and thought that the Stimulus was bad didn't at least try the Stimulus out before he decided against it -- I mean sample its flavors and swish its body around on his tongue, kick the tires and take it out for a bit of a test drive to see what it could really do -- would you have any reason to trust his analysis?

Of course not. And you're welcome.


The same argument can be used for the WWE.

You would never call a ballet fake just because it had a script, would you?
 
2012-08-17 12:26:11 AM  

Relatively Obscure: MeinRS6: Relatively Obscure: MeinRS6: Since the VP doesn't do anything in our system

Inaccurate.

A VP does as he is told. Ya know, warm bucket of spit and all that.

Maybe. A VP still does something sometimes. It ain't much, overall, maybe. But the office has functions. Therefore, "doesn't do anything" is inaccurate. Neener.


VPs are fungible. That's Palin.

When Biden makes a gaffe, I'm not concerned about nuclear war.
 
2012-08-17 12:27:31 AM  
"The initial policy of monetary and fiscal stimulus really made a huge difference," she told me. "I would tattoo that on my forehead. The output decline we had was peanuts compared to the output decline we would otherwise have had in a crisis like this. That isn't fully appreciated."
 
2012-08-17 12:30:37 AM  

MeinRS6: Does anyone know if Ryan wants to put you people back in chains if he becomes VP? I need the official position if available.


I remember how upset you were when Santorum made a similar "chains" comment. You, the NRO, all the right wing blogs. None of you could believe Santorum would make such a comment.
 
2012-08-17 12:35:40 AM  
So this whole "but... but... the VP doesn't do anything!" logic is basically: Vote Ryan, he brings nothing to the ticket!
 
2012-08-17 12:35:43 AM  

MeinRS6: Relatively Obscure: MeinRS6: Since the VP doesn't do anything in our system

Inaccurate.

A VP does as he is told. Ya know, warm bucket of spit and all that.


Unless, of course, he's one of those veeps that ascends to the presidency, which happens 20% of the time.
 
2012-08-17 12:38:06 AM  

doyner: Unless, of course, he's one of those veeps that ascends to the presidency, which happens 20% of the time.


Dick Cheney cast 8 votes in the Senate.
 
2012-08-17 12:40:11 AM  

Relatively Obscure: doyner: Unless, of course, he's one of those veeps that ascends to the presidency, which happens 20% of the time.

Dick Cheney cast 8 votes in the Senate.


And there's that too. So, yeah, the VP is relevant.
 
2012-08-17 12:42:11 AM  
cdn.blisstree.com

GIS for syllabus honey

/i would ask for one too....
 
2012-08-17 12:48:49 AM  
"After having these letters called to my attention I checked into them, and they were treated as constituent service requests in the same way matters involving Social Security or Veterans Affairs are handled," Ryan said in a statement. "This is why I didn't recall the letters earlier. But they should have been handled differently, and I take responsibility for that.

Have you noticed that when asked about his earlier request, Ryan didn't take responsibility for telling an untruth, but rather he took responsibility for actually making the requests in the first place?
 
2012-08-17 12:50:58 AM  

RexTalionis: "After having these letters called to my attention I checked into them, and they were treated as constituent service requests in the same way matters involving Social Security or Veterans Affairs are handled," Ryan said in a statement. "This is why I didn't recall the letters earlier. But they should have been handled differently, and I take responsibility for that.

Have you noticed that when asked about his earlier request, Ryan didn't take responsibility for telling an untruth, but rather he took responsibility for actually making the requests in the first place?


What I noticed was that he didn't know what the fark was going on in his office with respect to a major political topic in which he was a key player.
 
2012-08-17 12:52:17 AM  

MeinRS6: Since the VP doesn't do anything in our system, I'm not sure how much confidence you need to have in him in the first place. I guess you need to have confidence that he can make it thru a state funeral without any big disasters. If Biden can do it, I'm pretty sure that anyone can.

Anyway, my comment was more about how this won't change a single vote.


This election is close enough that he may cast a tie-breaker or 10 in the Senate if elected, but in that case he's really just gonna vote the way he's instructed, but in a indirect manner it could count assuming those results
 
2012-08-17 01:01:42 AM  
McCain called it. Bold pick. Just like Palin.
 
2012-08-17 01:03:49 AM  

doyner: Relatively Obscure: doyner: Unless, of course, he's one of those veeps that ascends to the presidency, which happens 20% of the time.

Dick Cheney cast 8 votes in the Senate.

And there's that too. So, yeah, the VP is relevant.


Right, but he cast the votes the way the president told him to. That's what a VP does. It wasn't ever up in the air if Cheney was going to vote with the Dems. However, he would have if instructed to do so.

VP Ryan isn't going to shape the budget or pass a budget. He isn't going to add or decrease funds to Medicare or Obamacare. He's going to do what Romney tells him to do. And Romney is half-a-lib, so I don't see the big concern from the left about Ryan. It's good politics to go after the guy, but in the end the VP job still isn't worth a bucket of warm spit. What has Biden done besides be a jackass?
 
2012-08-17 01:10:11 AM  

fusillade762: Didn't he also vote for the bank bailouts?


Quasar: Lionel Mandrake: MeinRS6: So vote Democrat.

Well, let's see...I'm not a billionaire, so, yes! I will vote Democrat!

But I might be one day so I won't! 

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Yeah, that was the best line in a long time.


//something something sucking the government tit
 
2012-08-17 01:11:20 AM  

MeinRS6: Since the VP doesn't do anything in our system, I'm not sure how much confidence you need to have in him in the first place.


upload.wikimedia.org

His Constitutional obligations as President of the Senate notwithstanding, the lesson of recent years is that the Vice-President has as much power as the President wants him/her to have. So I don't find your evaluation comforting. At a minimum he has the power to shoot a man in the face with a shotgun and then make the guy apologize for being shot. I'd wager that's quite a feat. Any evaluation of a President must include the one person in the entire world s/he has picked to stand in if necessary.
 
2012-08-17 01:25:32 AM  
Cheney may have been the most important VP in history, but that was due to his many years/jobs in DC and the wars that started in those years. If it had been 8yrs of peacetime, Cheney would have given a bunch of speeches and gone to funerals too.

Ryan is smart, but he hasn't done all of the things that Cheney had done when he became VP. Not by a long shot. With Biden we have gone back to having the VP slot for a dufus, just like Gore under Clinton. Would Ryan reverse that trend and be some kind of power player in a Romney administration? I would look at history for what the most likely answer to that question is.
 
2012-08-17 01:26:16 AM  
After repeated denials, Paul Ryan has admitted he requested stimulus cash even after sharply criticizing the program

so...he requested stimulus money, KNEW he requested stimulus money even though it went against his Ayn Randian beliefs. Then he gets up in front of everyone and says that 'stimulus money is bad'. However...that's not enough. When called out on his using stimulus money...he denies it. KNOWING that accurate records are kept as to who asks for those funds and how much gets paid out. Not until someone rubs his gotdamn nose in it does Ryan finally admit that yeah, he took stimulus cash and was apparently quite happy to do so.

This is how Romney/Ryan would govern this country.
 
2012-08-17 01:30:21 AM  

Weaver95: After repeated denials, Paul Ryan has admitted he requested stimulus cash even after sharply criticizing the program

so...he requested stimulus money, KNEW he requested stimulus money even though it went against his Ayn Randian beliefs. Then he gets up in front of everyone and says that 'stimulus money is bad'. However...that's not enough. When called out on his using stimulus money...he denies it. KNOWING that accurate records are kept as to who asks for those funds and how much gets paid out. Not until someone rubs his gotdamn nose in it does Ryan finally admit that yeah, he took stimulus cash and was apparently quite happy to do so.

This is how Romney/Ryan would govern this country.


And he criticizes Obama for $700 million reduction in Medicare while simultaneously including the same cuts in his own budget and then justifies it by saying, "Well, the President did it first."

Romney/Ryan 2012: No Tag-Backs
 
2012-08-17 01:47:24 AM  

Somacandra: MeinRS6: Since the VP doesn't do anything in our system, I'm not sure how much confidence you need to have in him in the first place.

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His Constitutional obligations as President of the Senate notwithstanding, the lesson of recent years is that the Vice-President has as much power as the President wants him/her to have. So I don't find your evaluation comforting. At a minimum he has the power to shoot a man in the face with a shotgun and then make the guy apologize for being shot. I'd wager that's quite a feat. Any evaluation of a President must include the one person in the entire world s/he has picked to stand in if necessary.


My god, it must have been incredibly painful for Cheney to hold that smile for a full 2-3 seconds... poor guy
 
2012-08-17 01:51:06 AM  
... and the Derpists on the Right will lap up whatever Romney/Ryan tell them, because obviously they aren't a bunch of liars and scumbags. No, the only "scumbags and liars" here are the Left and the media, who call Romney/Ryan out on their lies.

I hate people sometimes.
 
2012-08-17 01:57:16 AM  
I guess it didn't take long for Ryan to fully assimilate into the Romney "Foot in Mouth" campaign mode.
 
2012-08-17 01:58:05 AM  
 
2012-08-17 02:02:12 AM  
All this and only 5 days in.

Those Republicans who are saying that Obama should replace Biden should probably be begging Romney to replace Ryan instead.
 
2012-08-17 02:03:44 AM  

MeinRS6: Would Ryan reverse that trend and be some kind of power player in a Romney administration? I would look at history for what the most likely answer to that question is.


www.starscolor.com
 
2012-08-17 02:05:40 AM  
MeinRS6
Cheney may have been the most important VP in history, but that was due to his many years/jobs in DC and the wars that started in those years. If it had been 8yrs of peacetime, Cheney would have given a bunch of speeches and gone to funerals too.

Cheney's "energy plan" assured that he would not preside over much peacetime. He wasn't brought in to balance a ticket. He was brought in to get a job done.
 
2012-08-17 02:11:20 AM  

Dear Jerk: MeinRS6
Cheney may have been the most important VP in history, but that was due to his many years/jobs in DC and the wars that started in those years. If it had been 8yrs of peacetime, Cheney would have given a bunch of speeches and gone to funerals too.

Cheney's "energy plan" assured that he would not preside over much peacetime. He wasn't brought in to balance a ticket. He was brought in to get a job done.


Oh, yeah. That's a brilliant thought.

And just look at all of the free oil the US has gotten.

/rolls eyes at goofball
//you could do as good of job as Biden
///gonna puts you in chainszzzzzz
 
2012-08-17 02:14:08 AM  
"Regardless, it's clear that the Obama stimulus did nothing to stimulate the economy, and now the President is asking to do it all over again."

No, absolutely nothing. The unemployment rate is still in double figures. We have had negative job growth every month that Obama has been president. The stock market has crashed several times recently. GM went bankrupt and doesn't exist any more.

Oh how I long for the days of Bush's economic prosperity.
 
2012-08-17 02:17:06 AM  
"I'm going to run as not-Obama in order to capitalize on the dislike of the sitting President. All I have to do is say nothing of any substance. This is the best job ever! Oh, I need a running mate? What are the polls saying I lack? Convictions and solid policy proposals? Eh, tap that Ryan guy, he's got moxy, and some ideas that will give the Democrats a case of the fits!"

"Wait a minute... my inability to take a concrete position on any issue means I'll be painted with the brush that my running mate has been sticking up his butt? Time out! Time out! Mulligan! Unfaaaaaaaaaaaaair, negatiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiive campaiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiign!"
 
2012-08-17 02:18:23 AM  

hammettman: I guess it didn't take long for Ryan to fully assimilate into the Romney "Foot in Mouth" campaign mode.


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2012-08-17 02:19:39 AM  

MeinRS6: VP Ryan isn't going to shape the budget or pass a budget. He isn't going to add or decrease funds to Medicare or Obamacare. He's going to do what Romney tells him to do. And Romney is half-a-lib, so I don't see the big concern from the left about Ryan. It's good politics to go after the guy, but in the end the VP job still isn't worth a bucket of warm spit. What has Biden done besides be a jackass?


Sure, but VP Ryan is just one medical emergency away from becoming P Ryan. So yeah, it's worth noting what he believes, and what he'd be likely to do if such an emergency took place.
 
2012-08-17 02:21:55 AM  

Bhruic: Sure, but VP Ryan is just one medical emergency away from becoming P Ryan. So yeah, it's worth noting what he believes, and what he'd be likely to do if such an emergency took place.


Picking Ryan as VP is a pretty sure sign that Romney isn't in control of the campaign anymore.
 
2012-08-17 02:26:04 AM  

farkityfarker: All this and only 5 days in.

Those Republicans who are saying that Obama should replace Biden should probably be begging Romney to replace Ryan instead.


One conservative group is going all out to replace Romney.

Buzzfeed story
 
2012-08-17 02:27:37 AM  

sprawl15: Bhruic: Sure, but VP Ryan is just one medical emergency away from becoming P Ryan. So yeah, it's worth noting what he believes, and what he'd be likely to do if such an emergency took place.

Picking Ryan as VP is a pretty sure sign that Romney isn't in control of the campaign anymore.


Anymore? Just look at who's signing his paychecks.
 
2012-08-17 02:30:48 AM  
"Oh I thought you said stimulus honey boo boo"
 
2012-08-17 02:31:30 AM  
MeinRS6

/rolls eyes at goofball
//you could do as good of job as Biden


/sounds like you don't remember the Energy Task Force, or how the war in Iraq was supposed to pay for itself
//that's high praise
 
2012-08-17 02:32:16 AM  

MeinRS6: What has Biden done besides be a jackass?


Biden delivers emotional speech to families of fallen troops

W.H.: Joe Biden forced President Obama's hand on gay marriage

And that was just within 3 weeks. Biden is a badass.
 
2012-08-17 02:42:52 AM  

doyner: RexTalionis: "After having these letters called to my attention I checked into them, and they were treated as constituent service requests in the same way matters involving Social Security or Veterans Affairs are handled," Ryan said in a statement. "This is why I didn't recall the letters earlier. But they should have been handled differently, and I take responsibility for that.

Have you noticed that when asked about his earlier request, Ryan didn't take responsibility for telling an untruth, but rather he took responsibility for actually making the requests in the first place?

What I noticed was that he didn't know what the fark was going on in his office with respect to a major political topic in which he was a key player.


He was too busy reading and deciding he didn't agree whatever the flavor of the day was and the flavor was stimulus, sweet stimulus....
 
2012-08-17 02:46:42 AM  

MeinRS6: So vote Democrat.


In this case... Yes.
 
2012-08-17 02:49:10 AM  
A Dicktard Republican is a liar. What's so new about this?
 
2012-08-17 02:51:02 AM  
These are the type of people who always say: "The government shouldn't interfere with the free market" while sending lobbyists to Washington to interfere in the free market.
 
2012-08-17 02:52:26 AM  
He just needed to provide proof that it would go to support a union and he was good to go.

Dr. Mojo PhD: When a Republican:

1. Has no confidence in their own policies
2. Tacitly admits that the Democrats had the right policies
3. Which tacitly admits that his own policies were wrong
4. Which perforce means that he isn't capable of doing anything on his own and just constantly gainsays the people whose policies he knows work for political clout


1. Obama is running on his record, particularly ObamaCare, right?
2. Obama was completely against the troop surge, but then the withdrawal time table on Iraq and his ability to withdraw troops on a 'good' note depended on it.
3. As this is Obama we're talking about, he's never going to admit that, he's just going to take credit for something he didn't do.
4. The fact that you're trying to say this about a Republican while supporting Obama makes you a laughing stock of anyone who knows what is going on.
 
2012-08-17 02:55:16 AM  
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Spoiler: the sled was named Syllabus Honey.
 
2012-08-17 03:01:45 AM  

MeinRS6: So vote Democrat.


You know, Rush is right. Voting is not a right, it's a privilege. Women should not be allowed to sabotage elections, and neither should those too weak minded to take what God is trying to give them (i.e. libtards and RINOs).
 
2012-08-17 03:08:16 AM  
I like how MeinRS6 is pretending like no VP has ever become president or had any influence over the policies of the executive branch. Here's a free tip man: When your entire argument hinges on completely ignoring history you might want to shut the fark up.
 
2012-08-17 03:08:40 AM  
Mitt Romney: "My tax rate has always been at least 13%"
 
2012-08-17 03:10:53 AM  

MeinRS6: Cheney may have been the most important VP in history, but that was due to his many years/jobs in DC and the wars that started in those years. If it had been 8yrs of peacetime, Cheney would have given a bunch of speeches and gone to funerals too.


So are you saying Cheney started those wars?
 
2012-08-17 03:19:39 AM  
This is the same type of guy who howls about the evils of Teh Ghey while banging guys in his spare time, or rants about abortion even though his college GF got one, thus saving his future political career. I seriously doubt this will be the last sad/hilarious revelation we hear about Paul Ryan.
 
2012-08-17 03:21:06 AM  
I'm surprised Ryan didn't have security haul the reporter away for daring to challenge him on a policy issue.
 
2012-08-17 03:22:49 AM  

MeinRS6: Relatively Obscure: MeinRS6: Since the VP doesn't do anything in our system

Inaccurate.

A VP does as he is told. Ya know, warm bucket of spit and all that.

MeinRS6: Anyway, my comment was more about how this won't change a single vote.

Probably accurate.

Ah, sweet agreement.


cough(cheney)cough
 
2012-08-17 03:23:02 AM  

MeinRS6: Dear Jerk: MeinRS6
Cheney may have been the most important VP in history, but that was due to his many years/jobs in DC and the wars that started in those years. If it had been 8yrs of peacetime, Cheney would have given a bunch of speeches and gone to funerals too.

Cheney's "energy plan" assured that he would not preside over much peacetime. He wasn't brought in to balance a ticket. He was brought in to get a job done.

Oh, yeah. That's a brilliant thought.

And just look at all of the free oil the US has gotten.

/rolls eyes at goofball
//you could do as good of job as Biden
///gonna puts you in chainszzzzzz


Yeah, oil companies, military contractors and other corporations didn't benefit at ALL. Not like any of them are sitting on record profits or anything.
 
2012-08-17 03:25:00 AM  
The job he was brought in to perform wasn't for the U.S. look at who actually profited from his policies, Tatsuma
 
2012-08-17 03:26:38 AM  
Goddamnit. That comment was in reply to meinRS/Tats comment about free oil.
 
2012-08-17 03:30:30 AM  

Nina_Hartley's_Ass: Maddow rerun on it RIGHT NOW.


Listening to her audio podcast right now.
 
2012-08-17 03:30:44 AM  

MeinRS6: Cheney may have been the most important VP in history, but that was due to his many years/jobs in DC and the wars that started in those years. If it had been 8yrs of peacetime, Cheney would have given a bunch of speeches and gone to funerals too.

Ryan is smart, but he hasn't done all of the things that Cheney had done when he became VP. Not by a long shot. With Biden we have gone back to having the VP slot for a dufus, just like Gore under Clinton. Would Ryan reverse that trend and be some kind of power player in a Romney administration? I would look at history for what the most likely answer to that question is.


no he's only been in politics since he was, what, early 20-something?

amusing to see one of the most important "up-and-coming" good-looking-for-dc gop power players getting some kind of downgrade by becoming vp

is this the official playbook now that kill-kill-kill-the-medicare will be thoroughly exposed?
 
2012-08-17 04:06:19 AM  

MeinRS6: So vote Democrat.


Thanks, I plan to. Maybe you're ok with your candidates flat out lying to you. I'm not.
 
2012-08-17 04:14:08 AM  

MeinRS6:

Since the VP doesn't do anything in our system, I'm not sure how much confidence you need to have in him in the first place.


comicbook.com
 
2012-08-17 04:21:46 AM  

Alphax: Nina_Hartley's_Ass: Maddow rerun on it RIGHT NOW.

Listening to her audio podcast right now.


Where to get?
 
2012-08-17 04:24:47 AM  

buckler: Alphax: Nina_Hartley's_Ass: Maddow rerun on it RIGHT NOW.

Listening to her audio podcast right now.

Where to get?


iTunes has it, I download it directly to my iPhone every night.
 
2012-08-17 04:33:23 AM  
Why is this election even close?
 
2012-08-17 04:55:24 AM  

johnnyrocket: Why is this election even close?



Because i247.photobucket.com
 
2012-08-17 05:15:27 AM  

MeinRS6: Since the VP doesn't do anything in our system, I'm not sure how much confidence you need to have in him in the first place.


LOL

So they've just given up to the point that, "Well the VP doesn't really do anything so it doesn't matter if he sucks" is their talking point. You might want to shorten that a little for the bumper sticker.
 
2012-08-17 05:26:21 AM  
LYIN' RYAN!



Pass it around! Make it a meme! Have it haunt the creepy little fugger everywhere he goes!
 
2012-08-17 05:30:15 AM  
stillisstillmoving.com
 
2012-08-17 05:43:30 AM  

MeinRS6:
Since the VP doesn't do anything in our system, I'm not sure how much confidence you need to have in him in the first place.


Lol thats your best defence of him? Never mind he is a lying shiathead and a moron, he wont have the keys?
 
2012-08-17 06:20:32 AM  

MeinRS6: Cheney may have been the most important VP in history, but that was due to his many years/jobs in DC and the wars that started in those years. If it had been 8yrs of peacetime, Cheney would have given a bunch of speeches and gone to funerals too.

Ryan is smart, but he hasn't done all of the things that Cheney had done when he became VP. Not by a long shot. With Biden we have gone back to having the VP slot for a dufus, just like Gore under Clinton. Would Ryan reverse that trend and be some kind of power player in a Romney administration? I would look at history for what the most likely answer to that question is.


You continueto avoid the issue here. Paul Ryan, bootstrappy Ayn Rand disciple and scorner of all things government stimulus, not only requested stimulus money, but actively sought it out. And then when confronted on the hypocrisy, lied about it. Or are you actually buying his lame ass excuse?

He adds yet another layer of obfuscation to a campaign team which finds it stunningly difficult to tell the truth. It's says a great deal about what this candidate would be like if he ever actually becomes President.
 
2012-08-17 06:28:39 AM  


MeinRS6
:
So vote Democrat.

MeinRS6: Since the VP doesn't do anything in our system
MeinRS6: Ryan can play the role of dufus

You sound tired.
 
2012-08-17 06:31:53 AM  
Just wait until he finds out his "Don't Re-Nig in 2012" sticker takes the finish off his Audi's paint job. It won't be pretty in here.
 
2012-08-17 06:38:40 AM  

GAT_00: Which then begs the question


Would you please stop misusing this term?
 
2012-08-17 06:40:53 AM  
RexTalionis: Have you noticed that when asked about his earlier request, Ryan didn't take responsibility for telling an untruth, but rather he took responsibility for actually making the requests in the first place?

doyner: What I noticed was that he didn't know what the fark was going on in his office with respect to a major political topic in which he was a key player

I suspect this is more a case of plausible deniability than not knowing what was going on in his offce. Any time you're going to completely abandon your stated principles, it's always nice to have an overzealous staffer to blame for handling "constituent service requests in the same way matters involving Social Security or Veterans Affairs are handled."
 
2012-08-17 06:47:52 AM  
Paul Lyin'.
 
2012-08-17 07:01:51 AM  

hubiestubert: At some point, these cats have got to realize that records ARE actually kept.

Romney seems to have difficulty in understanding that words aren't just deleted when he can't see them any longer. What is astounding is that these folks have convinced themselves that everyone has goldfish-like memories, and to be fair, there are some in the media who seem bound and determined to prove exactly that--and to be fairer, they are paid to keep their memories somewhat fluid when it comes to inconvenient facts--and Ryan appears to be infected with the same malady...

In the end, it shows a disrespect for their electorate, and the people that they want to represent. Or rather, that they say that they want to represent. The interests that they actually represent do have keen memories, but at this point, they have to bring out the bread and circuses to at least appear like they have more interests at heart...


I used to think this as well, but I more attributed it to older politicians not realizing how easy it is to reserach things now. Now I think it's just them being arrogant morons.

They're so used to dealing with a friendly incompetent press that doesn't call them out on their lies.
 
2012-08-17 07:04:23 AM  
I can see why RMoney likes this clown...
 
2012-08-17 07:12:59 AM  

MeinRS6: So vote Democrat.


Oh we will. For a dozen reasons besides this one.
 
2012-08-17 07:15:23 AM  
All I know is that my 401k tanked during the second term of GW but this year alon I have made almost 10% on my investments (which isn't great compared to professionals) but that's a damn site better than what it did under George the Lesser. Had we not done anything about the economy, I have no doubt that it would have gone down farther, possibly losing all value. I'll stick with Obama/Biden over Romney/Ryan even though there are a lot of things that I disagree with him on.

Yeah, "I got mine biatch". Suck it GOP loving shills
 
2012-08-17 07:15:28 AM  
One of the two reasons he gave for requesting the money was that it would "create jobs."

But I thought you said government stimulus doesn't work, Mr. Lyan?
 
2012-08-17 07:15:40 AM  
Paul Ryan is Ronald Reagan reincarnated! He's the intellectual leader of the Republican Party and the architect of the best budget in 100 years!

Lets make him VP, which is a nothing position in our system. Don't worry, Ryan won't be doing anything!
 
2012-08-17 07:17:13 AM  

vernonFL: Paul Ryan is Ronald Reagan reincarnated! He's the intellectual leader of the Republican Party and the architect of the best budget in 100 years!

Lets make him VP, which is a nothing position in our system. Don't worry, Ryan won't be doing anything!


But he'll still suck corporate cawk and that's the important thing.
 
2012-08-17 07:17:20 AM  

hubiestubert: At some point, these cats have got to realize that records ARE actually kept.


Meh. Doesn't matter.

Republican voters don't care about accuracy, or truth, or reality even. They care about ideology.
 
2012-08-17 07:18:02 AM  

Rev. Creflo Baller: One of the two reasons he gave for requesting the money was that it would "create jobs."

But I thought you said government stimulus doesn't work, Mr. Lyan?


Dozens of Republicans made the same false claims in public, but said the opposite in private. They KNOW that stimulus works, and lie about it.
 
2012-08-17 07:25:03 AM  
Stimulate Mommies?
 
2012-08-17 07:25:03 AM  
So no poll bump for Romney, and Ryan is going to be ruined after this.

img.photobucket.com
 
2012-08-17 07:33:01 AM  

hubiestubert: At some point, these cats have got to realize that records ARE actually kept.

Romney seems to have difficulty in understanding that words aren't just deleted when he can't see them any longer. What is astounding is that these folks have convinced themselves that everyone has goldfish-like memories, and to be fair, there are some in the media who seem bound and determined to prove exactly that--and to be fairer, they are paid to keep their memories somewhat fluid when it comes to inconvenient facts--and Ryan appears to be infected with the same malady...

In the end, it shows a disrespect for their electorate, and the people that they want to represent. Or rather, that they say that they want to represent. The interests that they actually represent do have keen memories, but at this point, they have to bring out the bread and circuses to at least appear like they have more interests at heart...


THIS.

Personally, I believe that Romney/Ryan aren't worried about their "inconsistencies" because they know that FOX News will never bring this up. Stupid premise though. The kind of voter that they need to attract doesn't just watch FOX News. However, I will say that FOX News has driven their base so cuckoo that these people are actually dangerous. The changes that have taken place in most people's lives have nothing to do with Obama, however, faithful FOX viewers have become so indoctrinated with "Obama, the secret Kenyan Muslim Socialist Man" that they have spent their last couple of years raising their blood pressure over nonexistent propaganda. It is really sad. And scary.
 
2012-08-17 07:36:42 AM  
You have to be a moron to think the bag of shiat Obama was handed could be fixed in four years. When he was elected, we were in two wars and the economy was free-falling into the shiatter. We were losing 600k jobs per month. Now we're out of Iraq and on a timeline to leave Afghanistan. Unemployment is down. We are gaining back jobs. Things are better.
 
2012-08-17 07:40:56 AM  

foo monkey: You have to be a moron to think the bag of shiat Obama was handed could be fixed in four years.


I think you're onto something, but you've got to remember that these are people of the land.
 
2012-08-17 07:42:37 AM  

foo monkey: You have to be a moron to think the bag of shiat Obama was handed could be fixed in four years. When he was elected, we were in two wars and the economy was free-falling into the shiatter. We were losing 600k jobs per month. Now we're out of Iraq and on a timeline to leave Afghanistan. Unemployment is down. We are gaining back jobs. Things are better.


Which is why I hope he's re-elected. Think of what he could accomplish with a neutered and humiliated Republican party.
 
2012-08-17 07:45:48 AM  

Somacandra: Bontesla: The article layout is terrible. . . which is sad . . . because this is awesome.

Here is a much more readable version from ABC's 'Political Punch.'


Thank you. I admit being too dumb to figure out how to navigate to page 2 of the submitter's link. The article is awesome.
 
2012-08-17 07:47:09 AM  

hubiestubert: At some point, these cats have got to realize that records ARE actually kept.


Of course they realize that. Why do you think Romney has a history of taking the hard drives and wiping the email servers when he leaves a job?
 
2012-08-17 07:48:11 AM  
I love the way him and his staff just shrug off Ryan's obvious hypocrisy... They know the morons that still vote Republican in this country don't care.
 
2012-08-17 07:48:59 AM  
I thought you said 'syllabus honey'

Does he also fondle his sweaters?
 
2012-08-17 07:54:57 AM  
"KEEP YER GUBBMINT HANDS OFF MY STIMULUS MONEY"

--Sign carried by Paul Ryan in Congressional sessions
 
2012-08-17 07:55:00 AM  

MeinRS6: Since the VP doesn't do anything in our system, I'm not sure how much confidence you need to have in him in the first place.


Because there's no way the VP could, you know, become president on any given day.

Besides, the VP is in charge of the senate. I know this because your last VP candidate said so.

Q: Brandon Garcia wants to know, "What does the Vice President do?"

PALIN: That's something that Piper would ask me! ... [T]hey're in charge of the U.S. Senate so if they want to they can really get in there with the senators and make a lot of good policy changes that will make life better for Brandon and his family and his classroom.
 
2012-08-17 07:57:18 AM  

HotWingConspiracy: Ryan is going to be ruined after this.


hahah that's cute, you mean like how Romney was ruined when he was caught outright lying about objective reality three or four times this year
 
2012-08-17 07:58:07 AM  

keylock71: I love the way him and his staff just shrug off Ryan's obvious hypocrisy... They know the morons that still vote Republican in this country don't care.


"If Congressman Ryan is asked to help a Wisconsin entity applying for existing Federal grant funds, he does not believe flawed policy should get in the way of doing his job and providing a legitimate constituent service to his employers," the spokesman told the Milwaukee (Wisc.) Journal Sentinel.

LOLLLLLLL
 
2012-08-17 07:59:09 AM  

randomjsa: He just needed to provide proof that it would go to support a union and he was good to go.


So, it's OK to lie about doing something if it was easy to do. VOTE RMONEY/RAYN.

Our Fark Independents™ were impressive 4 years ago; they're quite pathetic this time around.
 
2012-08-17 07:59:16 AM  

Jackson Herring: HotWingConspiracy: Ryan is going to be ruined after this.

hahah that's cute, you mean like how Romney was ruined when he was caught outright lying about objective reality three or four times this year


Yeah but this is it for Romney's political ambitions. Ryan has big plans.
 
2012-08-17 08:02:53 AM  

Karac: hubiestubert: At some point, these cats have got to realize that records ARE actually kept.

Of course they realize that. Why do you think Romney has a history of taking the hard drives and wiping the email servers when he leaves a job?


Nice try - we all know Mormons aren't allowed to use electricity or modern technology.

TRY AGAIN, LIBTARD.
 
2012-08-17 08:03:34 AM  

Terrified Asexual Forcemeat: foo monkey: You have to be a moron to think the bag of shiat Obama was handed could be fixed in four years. When he was elected, we were in two wars and the economy was free-falling into the shiatter. We were losing 600k jobs per month. Now we're out of Iraq and on a timeline to leave Afghanistan. Unemployment is down. We are gaining back jobs. Things are better.

Which is why I hope he's re-elected. Think of what he could accomplish with a neutered and humiliated Republican party.


What, you think red states aren't going to be allowed to elect their senetors and representatives? It is delusional to think the republicans will do anything other than recoil even more violently from civilization.
 
2012-08-17 08:04:45 AM  

foo monkey: You have to be a moron to think the bag of shiat Obama was handed could be fixed in four years. When he was elected, we were in two wars and the economy was free-falling into the shiatter. We were losing 600k jobs per month. Now we're out of Iraq and on a timeline to leave Afghanistan. Unemployment is down. We are gaining back jobs. Things are better.


"But Fox News says we're in the worst economy since FDR!"

Anytime I try to explain how things are getting better since Obama came into office, and inherited all the debt Bush II created (the majority of the deficit 'created' under Obama was from Bush's last budget, that greatly increased spending with no way to pay for it) to my Conservative coworkers and family, they always pull out some propaganda they heard from Rush or Fox News, which is complete bull. Show them facts, and they try to change the subject back to GOP talking points, or worse yet, go full Derp and start blathering about how he isn't really President anyway.

For example, one coworker of mine has made it his life's goal to make me a Republican. While talking one day about how Obama is the absolute worst President ever, and has destroyed our economy, I stopped him and asked a simple question: "Are you better off than you were four years ago?"

He looked shocked, as we both knew this was an old Republican slogan, and he also knew I knew the answer to that question. Of course he was. He had gone from working as a Federal Corrections Officer to doing Corporate Security at a major Healthcare corporation, and while his income was not much more than before, his benefits were much better. He was putting all of his kids through private school, owns his own home, his wife doesn't have to work to make ends meet, and just bought a new truck for himself.

Nevertheless, this guy tries to tell me he was barely getting by now (not true), had worse healthcare (not true), and it was all Obama's fault! I just shook my head, and he left the room. On the upside, he hasn't tried to convert me to Derpism since that exchange.
 
2012-08-17 08:08:39 AM  

rufus-t-firefly: Besides, the VP is in charge of the senate. I know this because your last VP candidate said so.

Q: Brandon Garcia wants to know, "What does the Vice President do?"

PALIN: That's something that Piper would ask me! ... [T]hey're in charge of the U.S. Senate so if they want to they can really get in there with the senators and make a lot of good policy changes that will make life better for Brandon and his family and his classroom.


Christ, what an imbecile. I'm thinking McCain didn't want to be President any more than Romney does. The GOP is much better suited to being obstructionists in the senate and chronic whiners until 2016.
 
2012-08-17 08:10:48 AM  

johnnyrocket: Why is this election even close?



IT'S NOT

The media keeps calling it close to drive ratings and keep you watching. If you look at electoral college votes it is nowhere near as close as we are told daily on TV news.
 
2012-08-17 08:11:24 AM  

gaspode: MeinRS6:
Since the VP doesn't do anything in our system, I'm not sure how much confidence you need to have in him in the first place.

Lol thats your best defence of him? Never mind he is a lying shiathead and a moron, there's an 80% change he wont have the keys?


FTFY

I'm completely flummoxed at this point with the Republicans. Ryan is radioactive in Florida. I know it, you know it, the Republicans know it. But they will never allow intellectual honesty to enter into their minds. Never. They will whistle past the graveyard all day and pretend this was not a shiatty pick just to bolster their team. Pathetic.
 
2012-08-17 08:12:00 AM  

MeinRS6: So vote Democrat.


You know how I know you don't understand this meme?!??
 
2012-08-17 08:14:23 AM  
The R-R ticket is more like an L-L. Liar and Liar.
 
2012-08-17 08:18:12 AM  

MeinRS6: Since the VP doesn't do anything in our system...


Wow... and all this time I thought you were just pretending to be massively ignorant of even the most basic facts of the American political system.
 
2012-08-17 08:18:48 AM  

johnnyrocket: Why is this election even close?


Per FiveThirtyEight, which is the only poller that seems to be ever accurate. They are predicting Obama has a 68.7% chance of winning.
 
2012-08-17 08:20:52 AM  

SpectroBoy: You know how I know you don't understand this meme?!??


They don't get the "b-b-b-b-ut Clinton" meme either. They use it every time someone mentions Bush, even if what the person is talking about is an actual thing Bush did that is still occurring today or a platform Bush tried being pursued by a current candidate.

I'd say they're intentionally trying to dilute the memes to pointless by constantly using them entirely out of context, but I don't think I can give them enough credit to think that up on their own.
 
2012-08-17 08:22:23 AM  
Seems like maybe Ryan was put on the ticket to distract us from looking deeper into Romney's finances and tax returns. What is he hiding?
 
2012-08-17 08:23:04 AM  

SpectroBoy: johnnyrocket: Why is this election even close?


IT'S NOT

The media keeps calling it close to drive ratings and keep you watching. If you look at electoral college votes it is nowhere near as close as we are told daily on TV news.


I hope to god you're right. If there is one thing I've learned, it's never overestimate the intelligence of my fellow Americans.
 
2012-08-17 08:26:16 AM  

Car_Ramrod: MeinRS6: What has Biden done besides be a jackass?

Biden delivers emotional speech to families of fallen troops


Jeez, the comments on the speech to the families of fallen troops are incredible. Biden's daughter and wife both died and somehow they think Biden is using their deaths for political gain.
 
2012-08-17 08:26:39 AM  

MeinRS6: So vote Democrat.


I think a lot of people will, thanks for the suggestion though!

rove.com
 
2012-08-17 08:30:02 AM  

RyogaM: I'm completely flummoxed at this point with the Republicans. Ryan is radioactive in Florida. I know it, you know it, the Republicans know it. But they will never allow intellectual honesty to enter into their minds. Never. They will whistle past the graveyard all day and pretend this was not a shiatty pick just to bolster their team. Pathetic.


I'm curious to when someone is going to roll out "Ryan wants to normalize relations with Cuba" adds.

Note: I actually agree with that idea, the embargo is stupid, etc. But from a political standpoint, that will lose you votes in Florida.
 
2012-08-17 08:32:26 AM  

czei: Car_Ramrod: MeinRS6: What has Biden done besides be a jackass?

Biden delivers emotional speech to families of fallen troops


Jeez, the comments on the speech to the families of fallen troops are incredible. Biden's daughter and wife both died and somehow they think Biden is using their deaths for political gain.


they're ghouls, what do you expect?
 
2012-08-17 08:39:59 AM  

vernonFL: Paul Ryan is Ronald Reagan reincarnated!


He's already got the Alzheimer's down apparently.
 
2012-08-17 08:46:15 AM  
headline reminded me of this

i.ytimg.com
 
2012-08-17 08:46:16 AM  

MeinRS6: So vote Democrat.


I'm voting for the white guys.
 
2012-08-17 08:47:30 AM  

NateGrey: MeinRS6: So vote Democrat.

I think a lot of people will, thanks for the suggestion though!

[rove.com image 694x519]


it would be interesting to see that same map from 2008, 2004, 2000, to see how the demographics have changed.
 
2012-08-17 08:53:36 AM  

Headso: NateGrey: MeinRS6: So vote Democrat.

I think a lot of people will, thanks for the suggestion though!

[rove.com image 694x519]

it would be interesting to see that same map from 2008, 2004, 2000, to see how the demographics have changed.


One thing that is interesting is how pinkish Texas looks now.
 
2012-08-17 08:54:03 AM  

BilldaCat10: headline reminded me of this

[i.ytimg.com image 480x360]


I kept saying, ``reminds me of somethin... what does it... Oh! Maybe I'll post--''

And then you scooped me.

Bravo, sir.
 
2012-08-17 08:57:52 AM  

alternate tune: The R-R ticket is more like an L-L. Liar and Liar.


Republicans have a long standing tradition of being highly principled for everyone else's actions but excluding themselves.
 
2012-08-17 08:58:57 AM  

doyner: MeinRS6: Relatively Obscure: MeinRS6: Since the VP doesn't do anything in our system

Inaccurate.

A VP does as he is told. Ya know, warm bucket of spit and all that.

Unless, of course, he's one of those veeps that ascends to the presidency, which happens 20% of the time.


Or Dick "shotgun" Cheney.
 
2012-08-17 09:01:15 AM  
img707.imageshack.us
 
2012-08-17 09:02:39 AM  

MeinRS6: So vote Democrat.


I'm gay, so I have to vote Democrat.
 
2012-08-17 09:03:34 AM  

TIKIMAN87: MeinRS6: So vote Democrat.

I'm voting for the white guys.


You sound Republican.
 
2012-08-17 09:04:49 AM  
ITT:Republican Excusionists who expect more integrity and honesty from their young children than they do from the highest leaders of their nation. I don't really give a fark that you douchebags will get the government you deserve, I'm annoyed I'll have to have a share in it too.
 
2012-08-17 09:05:05 AM  

Cythraul: MeinRS6: So vote Democrat.

I'm gay, so I have to vote Democrat.


Not true. You could be closeted.
 
2012-08-17 09:05:07 AM  
freethoughtblogs.com
 
2012-08-17 09:16:53 AM  

Cythraul: MeinRS6: So vote Democrat.

I'm gay, so I have to vote Democrat.


You're on to a potential meme here

I'm ____________ so I have to vote democrat

Gay
female
pro separation of church and state
for helping poor and unfortunate people
christian
not christian
a father of girls
a minority
an immigrant
concerned about corporate power over government
concerned about income disparity
sane
etc....
 
2012-08-17 09:20:25 AM  

SpectroBoy: Cythraul: MeinRS6: So vote Democrat.

I'm gay, so I have to vote Democrat.

You're on to a potential meme here

I'm ____________ so I have to vote democrat

Gay
female
pro separation of church and state
for helping poor and unfortunate people
christian
not christian
a father of girls
a minority
an immigrant
concerned about corporate power over government
concerned about income disparity
sane
etc....


Christian? I guess I'm being a bit prejudiced here, but if 'Christian' was an important term in defining who I am, wouldn't I most likely vote Republican?
 
2012-08-17 09:20:42 AM  

SpectroBoy: Cythraul: MeinRS6: So vote Democrat.

I'm gay, so I have to vote Democrat.

You're on to a potential meme here

I'm ____________ so I have to vote democrat

Gay
female
pro separation of church and state
for helping poor and unfortunate people
christian
not christian
a father of girls
a minority
an immigrant
concerned about corporate power over government
concerned about income disparity
sane
etc....


"in possession of a working brain"
 
2012-08-17 09:24:24 AM  
img402.imageshack.us
 
2012-08-17 09:28:28 AM  

MeinRS6: Since the VP doesn't do anything in our system, I'm not sure how much confidence you need to have in him in the first place


Translation: When Ryan farks up, I downplay it, make excuses, or outright dismiss it as irrelevant because hey, he's only 2nd in charge. But the next time Biden makes a gaffe, real or imagined, he's suddenly a heartbeat from the presidency and must be held to high standards, and you will spend an entire thread excoriating him. This is a pretty big cop-out, even for you.

MeinRS6: Does anyone know if Ryan wants to put you people back in chains if he becomes VP? I need the official position if available.


Oh wait, you did it in the same post. Btw, it was "ya'll," not "you people." But you already knew that. Yet you even italicized your own BS.

You may be comfortable making excuses for Ryan because the VP "does nothing," but I'm not. If the man makes his living railing against a program he sought to benefit from, that's wrong, and sheds light on whether or not his ideas are conviction or cheap ploy.
 
2012-08-17 09:29:27 AM  

Cythraul: Christian? I guess I'm being a bit prejudiced here, but if 'Christian' was an important term in defining who I am, wouldn't I most likely vote Republican?


I think he meant "Christian" as "follower of Christ" not the GOP-approved "cherry pick the parts I like, ignore the rest" kind.
 
2012-08-17 09:29:51 AM  

Skleenar: [img402.imageshack.us image 638x226]


+1
 
2012-08-17 09:29:52 AM  

Cythraul: Christian? I guess I'm being a bit prejudiced here, but if 'Christian' was an important term in defining who I am, wouldn't I most likely vote Republican?


Well it depends. Do you actually believe what Jesus Christ said in the Gospels about humbly supporting the weakest in society and rejecting the material comforts of the world?
 
2012-08-17 09:30:36 AM  

DeltaPunch:

My god, it must have been incredibly painful for Cheney to hold that smile for a full 2-3 seconds... poor guy


Are you kidding? He'd just think about no-bid Halliburton contracts and his blind trust, and spontaneously get a stiffy.
 
2012-08-17 09:31:27 AM  

Cythraul: Christian? I guess I'm being a bit prejudiced here, but if 'Christian' was an important term in defining who I am, wouldn't I most likely vote Republican?


That's what I don't get. Many people think that.

However, when I read about what Jesus said, and then compare the parties I can not understand why Christians don't flock to the democratic party.

The Democrats want to help the poor and the sick. The consistently try to help the less fortunate against the wishes of the GOP.

The GOP pays lip service to some religious issues (gheys are icky, no abortions, "family values"), but that's all they do. They have not moved the ball forward on these issues, and in other areas they are anti Christian (pro war, against helping the poor, the sick, immigrants, etc.)

I was raised Catholic and went through 12+ years of CCD and I feel like democrats are closer to what we learned in those classes.

If I am missing something, let me know.

To me, it seems the skill the GOP has the most is convincing people to vote against their own self interests.
 
2012-08-17 09:32:02 AM  
So the stimulus didn't work, but you helped get stimulus money for your district. The stimulus didn't create any jobs, so a construction crew must just have buried that pile of money in a park somewhere. For free. The stimulus was a failure, and you hitched your wagon to it (sort of a leitmotif for Ryan, I guess).
 
2012-08-17 09:34:24 AM  

Dr Dreidel: leitmotif


Commie words.
 
2012-08-17 09:34:42 AM  

GarySZ: I think he meant "Christian" as "follower of Christ" not the GOP-approved "cherry pick the parts I like, ignore the rest" kind.


Exactly.

Not the trickle down Republican jesus who loves guns, war, and preaches the prosperity gospel. I meant the hippie Jesus who wants us to help the poor and sick and love each other. The "let he without sin cast the first stone" guy.
 
2012-08-17 09:35:24 AM  
This election... is not gonna be close.
 
2012-08-17 09:36:34 AM  

NateGrey: TIKIMAN87: MeinRS6: So vote Democrat.

I'm voting for the white guys.

You sound Republican.


I just like working for a living.
 
2012-08-17 09:36:48 AM  

Car_Ramrod: MeinRS6: What has Biden done besides be a jackass?

Biden delivers emotional speech to families of fallen troops

W.H.: Joe Biden forced President Obama's hand on gay marriage

And that was just within 3 weeks. Biden is a badass.


Dude, it's useless....he'll just run away and go threadshiat on another topic. Dickless wonder that he is.
 
2012-08-17 09:36:57 AM  

SpectroBoy: Not the trickle down Republican jesus who loves guns, war, and preaches the prosperity gospel.


www.tin-god.com
 
2012-08-17 09:37:20 AM  

MeinRS6: So vote Democrat.


Absolutely. These farking Republicans are going to give more tax breaks to millionaires. What about the poor and middle class?
 
2012-08-17 09:39:03 AM  

TIKIMAN87: NateGrey: TIKIMAN87: MeinRS6: So vote Democrat.

I'm voting for the white guys.

You sound Republican.

I just like working for a living.


Is Obama going to fire you when he gets re elected?
 
2012-08-17 09:40:42 AM  

SpectroBoy: Cythraul: Christian? I guess I'm being a bit prejudiced here, but if 'Christian' was an important term in defining who I am, wouldn't I most likely vote Republican?

That's what I don't get. Many people think that.

However, when I read about what Jesus said, and then compare the parties I can not understand why Christians don't flock to the democratic party.

The Democrats want to help the poor and the sick. The consistently try to help the less fortunate against the wishes of the GOP.

The GOP pays lip service to some religious issues (gheys are icky, no abortions, "family values"), but that's all they do. They have not moved the ball forward on these issues, and in other areas they are anti Christian (pro war, against helping the poor, the sick, immigrants, etc.)

I was raised Catholic and went through 12+ years of CCD and I feel like democrats are closer to what we learned in those classes.

If I am missing something, let me know.

To me, it seems the skill the GOP has the most is convincing people to vote against their own self interests.


BUT ABORTION AND BIRTH CONTROL
 
2012-08-17 09:41:00 AM  

Cythraul: SpectroBoy: Cythraul: MeinRS6: So vote Democrat.

I'm gay, so I have to vote Democrat.

You're on to a potential meme here

I'm ____________ so I have to vote democrat

Gay
female
pro separation of church and state
for helping poor and unfortunate people
christian
not christian
a father of girls
a minority
an immigrant
concerned about corporate power over government
concerned about income disparity
sane
etc....

Christian? I guess I'm being a bit prejudiced here, but if 'Christian' was an important term in defining who I am, wouldn't I most likely vote Republican?


Here's a graph from the 2008 election (figures are percentages of the vote); draw your own conclusions!

pewresearch.org

http://pewresearch.org/pubs/1112/religion-vote-2008-election
 
2012-08-17 09:42:56 AM  

TIKIMAN87: MeinRS6: So vote Democrat.

I'm voting for the white guys.


Of course you are.
 
2012-08-17 09:47:46 AM  
Let me get this straight...

Things Paul Ryan likes:

TARP
Auto bailout
Stimulus

Thing Paul ryan doesn't like:

Medicare

Things teabaggers don't like:

TARP
Auto bailout
Stimulus

Things teabaggers like:

Medicare
Paul Ryan


F*cking. Idiots.
 
2012-08-17 09:50:05 AM  
CHECK HIS VOTING RECORD

The only thing fiscally conservative about this schmuck is his budget, which he pushed knowing full well that it had no chance in hell to pass. His budget was just a PR stunt to rile up the TeaTards in his district and when it worked other GOP creepers tried to ride his coat-tails.......

/Party Above Country
 
2012-08-17 09:52:01 AM  

Carn: This election... is not gonna be close.


i49.tinypic.com


Very Close.....
 
2012-08-17 09:59:17 AM  

Philip Francis Queeg: Well it depends. Do you actually believe what Jesus Christ said in the Gospels about humbly supporting the weakest in society and rejecting the material comforts of the world?



4.bp.blogspot.com
 
2012-08-17 10:01:55 AM  

MeinRS6: Somacandra: MeinRS6: So vote Democrat.

Usually stating one political position while engaging in another suggests a lack of confidence in the stated position and desire to sacrifice stated principles for short-term personal gain. If Paul Ryan isn't confident and consistent in his own stated position on economic issues, as a voter how can I be confident in him?

Since the VP doesn't do anything in our system,

Yeah, Dick Cheney just sat around twiddling his thumbs for 8 years. Made utterly no difference in anything. Just waiting for a tie vote in the Senate to break, or something to happen to the President. Just a-sittin' and a-grinnin', ayup.

I'm not sure how much confidence you need to have in him in the first place. I guess you need to have confidence that he can make it thru a state funeral without any big disasters. If Biden can do it, I'm pretty sure that anyone can.

Anyway, my comment was more about how this won't change a single vote.


Totally. Just like the selection of Palin made utterly no difference in the 08 election.

Does anyone know if Ryan wants to put *you people* back in chains if he becomes VP? I need the official position if available.

Nice try. No, strike that, pathetic and desperate try. (Almost typed "derpserate", good thing spell check caught it.)
 
2012-08-17 10:02:20 AM  
In his defense, he probably receives hundreds of requests from cronies wanting to milk the system. How is he supposed to keep track of which ones are for programs he directly opposed - all the money is the same shade of green.
 
2012-08-17 10:02:35 AM  

Quasar: Lionel Mandrake: MeinRS6: So vote Democrat.

Well, let's see...I'm not a billionaire, so, yes! I will vote Democrat!

But I might be one day so I won't!


This. I have an inside track on where some money will be trickling down and I got me a bucket.
 
2012-08-17 10:07:35 AM  

MeinRS6: Somacandra: MeinRS6: So vote Democrat.

Usually stating one political position while engaging in another suggests a lack of confidence in the stated position and desire to sacrifice stated principles for short-term personal gain. If Paul Ryan isn't confident and consistent in his own stated position on economic issues, as a voter how can I be confident in him?

Since the VP doesn't do anything in our system, I'm not sure how much confidence you need to have in him in the first place. I guess you need to have confidence that he can make it thru a state funeral without any big disasters. If Biden can do it, I'm pretty sure that anyone can.

Anyway, my comment was more about how this won't change a single vote.

Does anyone know if Ryan wants to put you people back in chains if he becomes VP? I need the official position if available.


So One candidate can talk about "un-chaining" wall Street and that's Okay but if the other candidate flips the mataphor that's racist? Got it
 
2012-08-17 10:12:03 AM  

MeinRS6: doyner: Relatively Obscure: doyner: Unless, of course, he's one of those veeps that ascends to the presidency, which happens 20% of the time.

Dick Cheney cast 8 votes in the Senate.

And there's that too. So, yeah, the VP is relevant.

Right, but he cast the votes the way the president told him to. That's what a VP does. It wasn't ever up in the air if Cheney was going to vote with the Dems. However, he would have if instructed to do so.

VP Ryan isn't going to shape the budget or pass a budget. He isn't going to add or decrease funds to Medicare or Obamacare. He's going to do what Romney tells him to do. And Romney is half-a-lib, so I don't see the big concern from the left about Ryan. It's good politics to go after the guy, but in the end the VP job still isn't worth a bucket of warm spit. What has Biden done besides be a jackass?


You may want to read this book:
Angler : The Shadow Presidency of Dick Cheney and then get back to me about how irrelevent the VP is especially Cheney
 
2012-08-17 10:13:22 AM  

TIKIMAN87: NateGrey: TIKIMAN87: MeinRS6: So vote Democrat.

I'm voting for the white guys.

You sound Republican.

I just like working for a living.


So your boss is holding your job hostage contingent on your vote? If only there were a federal commission whose job it was to investigate and punish such behavior.
 
2012-08-17 10:16:27 AM  

one small post for man: I like how MeinRS6 is pretending


He always is... and while I do enjoy playing pretend with my children, I don't like playing pretend with their future. So... fark that guy.
 
2012-08-17 10:22:08 AM  

NateGrey: Carn: This election... is not gonna be close.

[i49.tinypic.com image 374x605]


Very Close.....


So there's only a 30% chance that our economy will be further ruined. Not bad but I'd like better odds still.
 
2012-08-17 10:26:28 AM  

TIKIMAN87: I just like working for a living.


So vote for two guys who never have.
 
2012-08-17 10:26:31 AM  
The media really should be questioning Ryan on this. But they probably won't. No wisea$$ comment here, just sadness.
 
2012-08-17 10:33:16 AM  
img823.imageshack.us
 
2012-08-17 10:34:56 AM  

Bontesla: layout

I disagree with the page layout assessment. I opened it up on my monitor and loved how I was able to read the entire article easily on my monitor without scrolling. It was like reading a newspaper.

 
2012-08-17 10:48:20 AM  

TIKIMAN87: NateGrey: TIKIMAN87: MeinRS6: So vote Democrat.

I'm voting for the white guys.

You sound Republican.

I just like working for a living.


Is that what you're doing right now?
 
2012-08-17 10:49:18 AM  

MeinRS6:

img209.imageshack.us

Since the VP doesn't do anything in our system, I'm not sure how much confidence you need to have in him in the first place. I guess you need to have confidence that he can make it thru a state funeral without any big disasters. If Biden can do it, I'm pretty sure that anyone can.

Anyway, my comment was more about how this won't change a single vote.

Does anyone know if Ryan wants to put you people back in chains if he becomes VP? I need the official position if available.

 
img849.imageshack.us

You don't sound tired today, just ignorant
also in the event of the Presidents death, he must assume the role, so I would like him to be up to snuff.
 
2012-08-17 10:51:56 AM  
I dont understand why these grandstanders wouldn't accept stimulus money (like Texas supposedly insisting it wouldn't take extra medicare money under Obamacare, and Ryan supposedly not being willing to take stimuls money).

You may think that a particular stimulus program is wasteful, and you might be right. But once it is happening anyway you might as well get your district's share. Otherwise you are doing a disservice to your own district/state to make some futile principled stand.
 
2012-08-17 10:59:27 AM  
Wow. I've really been turned around on the importance of the VP slot by all of your super persuasive comments.

What's funny is that the some people that are talking about how important the job is are also comfortable with Joe farking Biden filling the position. That's brilliant.
 
2012-08-17 11:02:38 AM  

Raharu: MeinRS6:

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Since the VP doesn't do anything in our system, I'm not sure how much confidence you need to have in him in the first place. I guess you need to have confidence that he can make it thru a state funeral without any big disasters. If Biden can do it, I'm pretty sure that anyone can.

Anyway, my comment was more about how this won't change a single vote.

Does anyone know if Ryan wants to put you people back in chains if he becomes VP? I need the official position if available. 
[img849.imageshack.us image 320x144]

You don't sound tired today, just ignorant
also in the event of the Presidents death, he must assume the role, so I would like him to be up to snuff.


In fairness, I think that Mitt might have chose Ryan as a life insurance policy. Same as McCain. Even if he won, there is no way in Hells that ANYONE will shoot him while in office, because no one wants to see Ryan anywhere near the Big Chair...
 
2012-08-17 11:05:51 AM  

hubiestubert: Raharu: MeinRS6:

[img209.imageshack.us image 320x75]

Since the VP doesn't do anything in our system, I'm not sure how much confidence you need to have in him in the first place. I guess you need to have confidence that he can make it thru a state funeral without any big disasters. If Biden can do it, I'm pretty sure that anyone can.

Anyway, my comment was more about how this won't change a single vote.

Does anyone know if Ryan wants to put you people back in chains if he becomes VP? I need the official position if available. 
[img849.imageshack.us image 320x144]

You don't sound tired today, just ignorant
also in the event of the Presidents death, he must assume the role, so I would like him to be up to snuff.

In fairness, I think that Mitt might have chose Ryan as a life insurance policy. Same as McCain. Even if he won, there is no way in Hells that ANYONE will shoot him while in office, because no one wants to see Ryan anywhere near the Big Chair...


That doesn't take into account that the type of person who supports Ryan and Palin are probably the most likely to shoot the President.
 
2012-08-17 11:06:52 AM  

MeinRS6: What's funny is that the some people that are talking about...


who you callin the some people?
 
2012-08-17 11:06:57 AM  

Debeo Summa Credo: You may think that a particular stimulus program is wasteful, and you might be right. But once it is happening anyway you might as well get your district's share. Otherwise you are doing a disservice to your own district/state to make some futile principled stand.


If the spending isn't beneficial, doesn't create any jobs, and doesn't do any good for your economy, then what's the point of accepting it?

That's my biggest issue. I get why they're taking the money. I don't get why they are allowed to take the money and then get away with pretending like the money isn't useful. They're directly violating their own alleged economic philosophy in taking the money by admitting it is indeed useful.
 
2012-08-17 11:10:43 AM  

HotWingConspiracy: So no poll bump for Romney, and Ryan is going to be ruined after this.

[img.photobucket.com image 570x377]


I love that photo so much. Biden looks like such an asshole there.
 
2012-08-17 11:11:55 AM  

MeinRS6: Wow. I've really been turned around on the importance of the VP slot by all of your super persuasive comments.

What's funny is that the some people that are talking about how important the job is are also comfortable with Joe farking Biden filling the position. That's brilliant.


On his dumbest day on the dumbest month of the dumbest year while simultaneously sleeping and suffering from brain hemmorhages Joe Biden is still smarter than every single farkwit in the entire GOP.

But I appreciate your genuine concern.
 
2012-08-17 11:15:00 AM  

Debeo Summa Credo: I dont understand why these grandstanders wouldn't accept stimulus money (like Texas supposedly insisting it wouldn't take extra medicare money under Obamacare, and Ryan supposedly not being willing to take stimuls money).

You may think that a particular stimulus program is wasteful, and you might be right. But once it is happening anyway you might as well get your district's share. Otherwise you are doing a disservice to your own district/state to make some futile principled stand.


Exactly. It's just overzealous consitutent service. Totally a non-story.

Besides, if politicians don't do what their consituents ask them to do, how will they ever get elected so they can stop the socialistic wasteful spending that is destroying the fabric of this great nation?
 
2012-08-17 11:18:49 AM  

Raharu: also in the event of the Presidents death, he must assume the role, so I would like him to be up to snuff.


Not to beat Mein's ridiculous comment to death but it's very common, even likely that the Vice President eventually runs for President. So worst case scenario, we could have to look at this guy for the next 16 years (assuming the country survives 4 republican Presidential terms).
 
2012-08-17 11:31:17 AM  

MeinRS6: Wow. I've really been turned around on the importance of the VP slot by all of your super persuasive comments.

What's funny is that the some people that are talking about how important the job is are also comfortable with Joe farking Biden filling the position. That's brilliant.


What's funny is that Republicans were comfortable with Sarah farking Palin filling the position. That's brilliant.
 
2012-08-17 11:32:26 AM  

Mugato: TIKIMAN87: I just like working for a living.

So vote for two guys who never have.


So Obama and Biden?

NOOOOO
 
2012-08-17 11:38:08 AM  

Mugato: Raharu: also in the event of the Presidents death, he must assume the role, so I would like him to be up to snuff.

Not to beat Mein's ridiculous comment to death but it's very common, even likely that the Vice President eventually runs for President. So worst case scenario, we could have to look at this guy for the next 16 years (assuming the country survives 4 republican Presidential terms).


Good point.
 
2012-08-17 11:40:13 AM  

TIKIMAN87: Mugato: TIKIMAN87: I just like working for a living.

So vote for two guys who never have.

So Obama and Biden?

NOOOOO


No, they both had real jobs. Clever quip though.
 
2012-08-17 11:40:24 AM  

randomjsa: He just needed to provide proof that it would go to support a union and he was good to go. Dr. Mojo PhD: When a Republican:

1. Has no confidence in their own policies
2. Tacitly admits that the Democrats had the right policies
3. Which tacitly admits that his own policies were wrong
4. Which perforce means that he isn't capable of doing anything on his own and just constantly gainsays the people whose policies he knows work for political clout

1. Obama is running on his record, particularly ObamaCare, right?
2. Obama was completely against the troop surge, but then the withdrawal time table on Iraq and his ability to withdraw troops on a 'good' note depended on it.
3. As this is Obama we're talking about, he's never going to admit that, he's just going to take credit for something he didn't do.
4. The fact that you're trying to say this about a Republican while supporting Obama makes you a laughing stock of anyone who knows what is going on.


1. Yes. Obama's quite proud of it.
2. Wait, you think this is a bad thing?
3. So...Obama didn't do these things?
4. Uh-huh.
 
2012-08-17 11:41:55 AM  

Raharu: You don't sound tired today, just ignorant
also in the event of the Presidents death, he must assume the role, so I would like him to be up to snuff.



There is that additional factor where Mittens is saying his economic plan is directly in-line with Ryan so where Ryan says one thing while doing the complete opposite gives us insight to what the administration may look like.
 
2012-08-17 11:48:14 AM  

Headso: NateGrey: MeinRS6: So vote Democrat.

I think a lot of people will, thanks for the suggestion though!

[rove.com image 694x519]

it would be interesting to see that same map from 2008, 2004, 2000, to see how the demographics have changed.


Purple America

img.photobucket.com
 
2012-08-17 11:50:08 AM  

MeinRS6: So vote Democrat.


You really don't get that meme, do you?
 
2012-08-17 11:51:09 AM  

HotWingConspiracy: So no poll bump for Romney, and Ryan is going to be ruined after this.

[img.photobucket.com image 570x377]


Not a bump per se, but Romney's numbers stopped plummeting. That should resume shortly.
 
2012-08-17 12:04:33 PM  

CPennypacker: MeinRS6: Wow. I've really been turned around on the importance of the VP slot by all of your super persuasive comments.

What's funny is that the some people that are talking about how important the job is are also comfortable with Joe farking Biden filling the position. That's brilliant.

On his dumbest day on the dumbest month of the dumbest year while simultaneously sleeping and suffering from brain hemmorhages Joe Biden is still smarter than every single farkwit in the entire GOP.

But I appreciate your genuine concern.


Bless your heart.

Keep chuggin' that delicious purple drank.
 
2012-08-17 12:06:11 PM  

MeinRS6: CPennypacker: MeinRS6: Wow. I've really been turned around on the importance of the VP slot by all of your super persuasive comments.

What's funny is that the some people that are talking about how important the job is are also comfortable with Joe farking Biden filling the position. That's brilliant.

On his dumbest day on the dumbest month of the dumbest year while simultaneously sleeping and suffering from brain hemmorhages Joe Biden is still smarter than every single farkwit in the entire GOP.

But I appreciate your genuine concern.

Bless your heart.

Keep chuggin' that delicious purple drank.


Whatever. You guys have a lot to be proud of
 
2012-08-17 12:07:39 PM  

Notabunny: Now with video goodness


Whoa. Retro "Portal" aperture.
 
2012-08-17 12:08:36 PM  
Why don't these guys just admit it. That being a Congressman means asking for Federal money to improve things in your district. That's your job. Nothing to be ashamed of there, just be honest. That's what helps get you reelected.
 
2012-08-17 12:09:15 PM  

SacriliciousBeerSwiller: HotWingConspiracy: So no poll bump for Romney, and Ryan is going to be ruined after this.

[img.photobucket.com image 570x377]

I love that photo so much. Biden looks like such an asshole there.


Yeah, but he's my kinda asshole.

media.screened.com
 
2012-08-17 12:10:15 PM  

propasaurus: Somacandra: Bontesla: The article layout is terrible. . . which is sad . . . because this is awesome.

Here is a much more readable version from ABC's 'Political Punch.'

From your link:
"After having these letters called to my attention I checked into them, and they were treated as constituent service requests in the same way matters involving Social Security or Veterans Affairs are handled," Ryan said in a statement. "This is why I didn't recall the letters earlier. But they should have been handled differently, and I take responsibility for that.
"Regardless, it's clear that the Obama stimulus did nothing to stimulate the economy, and now the President is asking to do it all over again."

So, he only asked the federal government for money because some of his constituents wanted money. Is he saying that if anyone in his district had written to him asking for a federal handout, he would've gotten it for them?

And as GAT_00: says:
if they didn't work, if he knew they weren't going to work, why didn't the budget hawk reject them?


Yeah. At least the brainiacs in Florida and Louisiana were smart enough to say no to stimulus money. Of course, it just took their states down the drainpipe of economic hell that much sooner.
 
2012-08-17 12:13:17 PM  
Based on the last 10 polls, Obama has to be pretty worried about the Gallup numbers:


Rasmussen Tracking Obama +1
Gallup Tracking Romney +2
CNN/Opinion Research Obama +7
Politico/GWU/Battleground Obama +1
IBD/CSM/TIPP Obama +7
FOX News Obama +9
Reuters/Ipsos Obama +7
Democracy Corps (D) Obama +4
Pew Research Obama +10
NBC News/Wall St. Jrnl Obama +6
 
2012-08-17 12:15:49 PM  

Mugato: TIKIMAN87: Mugato: TIKIMAN87: I just like working for a living.

So vote for two guys who never have.

So Obama and Biden?

NOOOOO

No, they both had real jobs. Clever quip though.


A community organizer is not a real job.
 
2012-08-17 12:17:47 PM  

TIKIMAN87: Mugato: TIKIMAN87: Mugato: TIKIMAN87: I just like working for a living.

So vote for two guys who never have.

So Obama and Biden?

NOOOOO

No, they both had real jobs. Clever quip though.

A community organizer is not a real job.


is POTUS/VPOTUS a real job?
 
2012-08-17 12:19:51 PM  

mrshowrules: Based on the last 10 polls, Obama has to be pretty worried about the Gallup numbers:


Rasmussen Tracking Obama +1
Gallup Tracking Romney +2
CNN/Opinion Research Obama +7
Politico/GWU/Battleground Obama +1
IBD/CSM/TIPP Obama +7
FOX News Obama +9
Reuters/Ipsos Obama +7
Democracy Corps (D) Obama +4
Pew Research Obama +10
NBC News/Wall St. Jrnl Obama +6


Eh, according to Nate Silver, the Gallup poll's fundamentals have been GOP-leaning this cycle.
 
2012-08-17 12:19:55 PM  

TIKIMAN87: Mugato: TIKIMAN87: Mugato: TIKIMAN87: I just like working for a living.

So vote for two guys who never have.

So Obama and Biden?

NOOOOO

No, they both had real jobs. Clever quip though.

A community organizer is not a real job.


How about law professor at a prestigious university? Is that a real job?
 
2012-08-17 12:22:02 PM  

TIKIMAN87: Mugato: TIKIMAN87: Mugato: TIKIMAN87: I just like working for a living.

So vote for two guys who never have.

So Obama and Biden?

NOOOOO

No, they both had real jobs. Clever quip though.

A community organizer is not a real job.


Teaching law at the University of Chicago was a...hobby?
 
2012-08-17 12:24:21 PM  

MeinRS6: doyner: Relatively Obscure: doyner: Unless, of course, he's one of those veeps that ascends to the presidency, which happens 20% of the time.

Dick Cheney cast 8 votes in the Senate.

And there's that too. So, yeah, the VP is relevant.

Right, but he cast the votes the way the president told him to. That's what a VP does. It wasn't ever up in the air if Cheney was going to vote with the Dems. However, he would have if instructed to do so.

VP Ryan isn't going to shape the budget or pass a budget. He isn't going to add or decrease funds to Medicare or Obamacare. He's going to do what Romney tells him to do. And Romney is half-a-lib, so I don't see the big concern from the left about Ryan. It's good politics to go after the guy, but in the end the VP job still isn't worth a bucket of warm spit. What has Biden done besides be a jackass?


Cheney essentially was the de facto president for 6 of the 8 years of Bush's term. Cheney relinquished the de facto control when the whole mess was so big and disastrous that he decided to wash his hands of the mess and let Bush get stuck with the problem.

You think Bush was the sole decider to go into Iraq and Afghanistan? You think Bush was the who wanted to pull back when the US military had OBL cornered in Tora Bora? You think Bush encouraged or allowed the Enron fiasco, the Bear Stearns, the Lehman Brothers, the Countrywide, the creation of DHS, TSA, NDAA, PATRIOT ACT? The real stupid thing that Bush did was ignore the reports that led to 9/11 and ignore the reports that led to Katrina. Bush was good at ignoring things and clearly brush in his ranch. Oh, and wiping the sand off beach volleyball players' butts.
 
2012-08-17 12:24:40 PM  
Is there a single thing Romney and Ryan agree on, other than the idea that Romney should be President and Ryan should be Vice President? Romney has taken every possible position on every issue and still can't manage to find anything he has in common with Ryan.
 
2012-08-17 12:28:49 PM  

CPennypacker: TIKIMAN87: Mugato: TIKIMAN87: Mugato: TIKIMAN87: I just like working for a living.

So vote for two guys who never have.

So Obama and Biden?

NOOOOO

No, they both had real jobs. Clever quip though.

A community organizer is not a real job.

is POTUS/VPOTUS a real job?


Not sure if serious or stupid.
 
2012-08-17 12:32:49 PM  

dericwater: You think Bush was the sole decider to go into Iraq and Afghanistan? You think Bush was the who wanted to pull back when the US military had OBL cornered in Tora Bora? You think Bush encouraged or allowed the Enron fiasco, the Bear Stearns, the Lehman Brothers, the Countrywide, the creation of DHS, TSA, NDAA, PATRIOT ACT?


Probably not, it probably was all Cheney. But Bush rubber stamped it all and history will blame him for all of it, as it should be. I don't know enough about Ryan to know whether this would be a similar situation but Romney isn't exactly known for standing by his convictions. Or even having any convictions.
 
2012-08-17 12:33:44 PM  

TIKIMAN87: CPennypacker: TIKIMAN87: Mugato: TIKIMAN87: Mugato: TIKIMAN87: I just like working for a living.

So vote for two guys who never have.

So Obama and Biden?

NOOOOO

No, they both had real jobs. Clever quip though.

A community organizer is not a real job.

is POTUS/VPOTUS a real job?

Not sure if serious or stupid.


I'm pretty sure you're stupid either way, but I can't tell if you're serious.
 
2012-08-17 12:40:47 PM  

MeinRS6: So vote Democrat.


Successful troll is successful.
 
2012-08-17 12:45:06 PM  

Carn: TIKIMAN87: Mugato: TIKIMAN87: Mugato: TIKIMAN87: I just like working for a living.

So vote for two guys who never have.

So Obama and Biden?

NOOOOO

No, they both had real jobs. Clever quip though.

A community organizer is not a real job.

How about law professor at a prestigious university? Is that a real job?


Maybe he should practice law as the POTUS instead of breaking it.
 
2012-08-17 12:48:47 PM  

TIKIMAN87: Carn: TIKIMAN87: Mugato: TIKIMAN87: Mugato: TIKIMAN87: I just like working for a living.

So vote for two guys who never have.

So Obama and Biden?

NOOOOO

No, they both had real jobs. Clever quip though.

A community organizer is not a real job.

How about law professor at a prestigious university? Is that a real job?

Maybe he should practice law as the POTUS instead of breaking it.


Guess he's doing alright then.

The Supreme Court on Thursday upheld President Obama's health care overhaul law, saying its requirement that most Americans obtain insurance or pay a penalty was authorized by Congress's power to levy taxes.
 
2012-08-17 12:49:59 PM  

Carn: TIKIMAN87: Carn: TIKIMAN87: Mugato: TIKIMAN87: Mugato: TIKIMAN87: I just like working for a living.

So vote for two guys who never have.

So Obama and Biden?

NOOOOO

No, they both had real jobs. Clever quip though.

A community organizer is not a real job.

How about law professor at a prestigious university? Is that a real job?

Maybe he should practice law as the POTUS instead of breaking it.

Guess he's doing alright then.

The Supreme Court on Thursday upheld President Obama's health care overhaul law, saying its requirement that most Americans obtain insurance or pay a penalty was authorized by Congress's power to levy taxes.


[Area Man Passionate Defender of What he Imagines the Constitution to be.html]
 
2012-08-17 12:50:10 PM  

MeinRS6: Somacandra: MeinRS6: So vote Democrat.

Usually stating one political position while engaging in another suggests a lack of confidence in the stated position and desire to sacrifice stated principles for short-term personal gain. If Paul Ryan isn't confident and consistent in his own stated position on economic issues, as a voter how can I be confident in him?

Since the VP doesn't do anything in our system, I'm not sure how much confidence you need to have in him in the first place. I guess you need to have confidence that he can make it thru a state funeral without any big disasters. If Biden can do it, I'm pretty sure that anyone can.

Anyway, my comment was more about how this won't change a single vote.

Does anyone know if Ryan wants to put you people back in chains if he becomes VP? I need the official position if available.


You do realize people like Biden right? He is significantly more open an honest than most politicians. On top of that he is not caught in one hypocrisy after another like the boys you are in bed with.
 
2012-08-17 12:50:52 PM  
Probably not, it probably was all Cheney. But Bush rubber stamped it all and history will blame him for all of it, as it should be. I don't know enough about Ryan to know whether this would be a similar situation but Romney isn't exactly known for standing by his convictions. Or even having any convictions.

It's not just Ryan, it's the entire cadre of Bush/Cheney advisers that are currently employed by the Romney campaign. I have no reason to doubt that those interests (along with Rove, Koch brothers, Adelson, etc) would own Romney's presidency outright.

All Romney cares about is the job title. He has no interest in setting policy or making decisions on his own.
 
kab
2012-08-17 12:51:07 PM  

MeinRS6: Since the VP doesn't do anything in our system, I'm not sure how much confidence you need to have in him in the first place. I don't have the first clue about how government in the US works


Noted, for future reference
 
2012-08-17 12:51:09 PM  

CPennypacker: TIKIMAN87: CPennypacker: TIKIMAN87: Mugato: TIKIMAN87: Mugato: TIKIMAN87: I just like working for a living.

So vote for two guys who never have.

So Obama and Biden?

NOOOOO

No, they both had real jobs. Clever quip though.

A community organizer is not a real job.

is POTUS/VPOTUS a real job?

Not sure if serious or stupid.

I'm pretty sure you're stupid either way, but I can't tell if you're serious.


Go away SHEEP.
 
2012-08-17 12:51:33 PM  

TIKIMAN87: Maybe he should practice law as the POTUS instead of breaking it.


Breaking it? LOL, who do you think we're talking about, Bush?
 
kab
2012-08-17 12:54:21 PM  

TIKIMAN87:
A community organizer is not a real job.


Owning a dressage horse on the other hand...
 
2012-08-17 12:56:14 PM  

TIKIMAN87: CPennypacker: TIKIMAN87: CPennypacker: TIKIMAN87: Mugato: TIKIMAN87: Mugato: TIKIMAN87: I just like working for a living.

So vote for two guys who never have.

So Obama and Biden?

NOOOOO

No, they both had real jobs. Clever quip though.

A community organizer is not a real job.

is POTUS/VPOTUS a real job?

Not sure if serious or stupid.

I'm pretty sure you're stupid either way, but I can't tell if you're serious.

Go away SHEEP.


You're not trying very hard with your trolling today. Perhaps a vacation is in order? Remember to submit your request to Drew first.
 
2012-08-17 12:57:28 PM  

Dr Dreidel: Carn: TIKIMAN87: Carn: TIKIMAN87: Mugato: TIKIMAN87: Mugato: TIKIMAN87: I just like working for a living.

So vote for two guys who never have.

So Obama and Biden?

NOOOOO

No, they both had real jobs. Clever quip though.

A community organizer is not a real job.

How about law professor at a prestigious university? Is that a real job?

Maybe he should practice law as the POTUS instead of breaking it.

Guess he's doing alright then.

The Supreme Court on Thursday upheld President Obama's health care overhaul law, saying its requirement that most Americans obtain insurance or pay a penalty was authorized by Congress's power to levy taxes.

[Area Man Passionate Defender of What he Imagines the Constitution to be.html]


Seriously.
 
2012-08-17 12:57:40 PM  

CPennypacker: You're not trying very hard with your trolling today. Perhaps a vacation is in order? Remember to submit your request to Drew first.


burn.
 
2012-08-17 01:02:58 PM  

MeinRS6: Wow. I've really been turned around on the importance of the VP slot by all of your super persuasive comments.

What's funny is that the some people that are talking about how important the job is are also comfortable with Joe farking Biden filling the position. That's brilliant.


given the last few choices, Cheny, Palin, Edwards, Gore, Kemp, Bradley, Choate, Quayle, or Stockdale
Yeah i'll take Biden
 
2012-08-17 01:04:08 PM  

cameroncrazy1984: mrshowrules: Based on the last 10 polls, Obama has to be pretty worried about the Gallup numbers:


Rasmussen Tracking Obama +1
Gallup Tracking Romney +2
CNN/Opinion Research Obama +7
Politico/GWU/Battleground Obama +1
IBD/CSM/TIPP Obama +7
FOX News Obama +9
Reuters/Ipsos Obama +7
Democracy Corps (D) Obama +4
Pew Research Obama +10
NBC News/Wall St. Jrnl Obama +6

Eh, according to Nate Silver, the Gallup poll's fundamentals have been GOP-leaning this cycle.


I was being facetious. 1 poll in 10 (Gallup's) has Romney up. Are you saying that Nate Silver is saying that Gallop has a right-wing bias? That would certainly explain alot.
 
US1
2012-08-17 01:12:04 PM  

Quasar: Lionel Mandrake: MeinRS6: So vote Democrat.

Well, let's see...I'm not a billionaire, so, yes! I will vote Democrat!

But I might be one day so I won't!


HAAA!!!! HAAAA!!! Good one. So thats why trailer trash vote republican ; uhh cause i might be one day
 
2012-08-17 01:12:50 PM  

mrshowrules: Are you saying that Nate Silver is saying that Gallop has a right-wing bias? That would certainly explain alot.


I think "Gallop" would be the perfect name for that organization. They need this to be a horse-race, and it isn't a horse-race if one of the horses stumbles out of the gate half-drunk with two tranq darts in its ass. They are being absurdly generous to the Romney campaign in order to make the polls come out 50/50.
 
2012-08-17 01:22:40 PM  

Wyalt Derp: Paul Lyin'.


That's lacists.
 
2012-08-17 01:25:10 PM  

Bigdogdaddy: All I know is that my 401k tanked during the second term of GW but this year alon I have made almost 10% on my investments (which isn't great compared to professionals) but that's a damn site better than what it did under George the Lesser. Had we not done anything about the economy, I have no doubt that it would have gone down farther, possibly losing all value. I'll stick with Obama/Biden over Romney/Ryan even though there are a lot of things that I disagree with him on.

Yeah, "I got mine biatch". Suck it GOP loving shills


I started by 401(k) during the Clinton administration. It went through the roof. I literally watched it grow on a daily basis. Then it stagnated during Bush's time. Now it's coming back up. So who do I want as president to help my 401(k) grow? Democrats!
 
2012-08-17 01:26:54 PM  

CPennypacker: TIKIMAN87: CPennypacker: TIKIMAN87: CPennypacker: TIKIMAN87: Mugato: TIKIMAN87: Mugato: TIKIMAN87: I just like working for a living.

So vote for two guys who never have.

So Obama and Biden?

NOOOOO

No, they both had real jobs. Clever quip though.

A community organizer is not a real job.

is POTUS/VPOTUS a real job?

Not sure if serious or stupid.

I'm pretty sure you're stupid either way, but I can't tell if you're serious.

Go away SHEEP.

You're not trying very hard with your trolling today. Perhaps a vacation is in order? Remember to submit your request to Drew first.


Quiet you! Shush!
 
2012-08-17 01:30:04 PM  

TIKIMAN87: NateGrey: TIKIMAN87: MeinRS6: So vote Democrat.

I'm voting for the white guys.

You sound Republican.

I just like working for a living.


And yet, here you are on Fark during office hours.
 
2012-08-17 01:31:32 PM  

Mouldy Squid: TIKIMAN87: NateGrey: TIKIMAN87: MeinRS6: So vote Democrat.

I'm voting for the white guys.

You sound Republican.

I just like working for a living.

And yet, here you are on Fark during office hours.


Exactly . . .
 
2012-08-17 01:37:01 PM  

Mouldy Squid: TIKIMAN87: NateGrey: TIKIMAN87: MeinRS6: So vote Democrat.

I'm voting for the white guys.

You sound Republican.

I just like working for a living.

And yet, here you are on Fark during office hours.


Exactly. I love having an office job :D

Ahhh the A/C fels great! A bit cold actually... Crazy 1st world problems...

U MAD??
 
2012-08-17 02:09:43 PM  

Mugato: dericwater: You think Bush was the sole decider to go into Iraq and Afghanistan? You think Bush was the who wanted to pull back when the US military had OBL cornered in Tora Bora? You think Bush encouraged or allowed the Enron fiasco, the Bear Stearns, the Lehman Brothers, the Countrywide, the creation of DHS, TSA, NDAA, PATRIOT ACT?

Probably not, it probably was all Cheney. But Bush rubber stamped it all and history will blame him for all of it, as it should be. I don't know enough about Ryan to know whether this would be a similar situation but Romney isn't exactly known for standing by his convictions. Or even having any convictions.


No, Ryan is nowhere near the same caliber as Cheney as being in control. In the Bush/Cheney case, Cheney was the puppet master and Bush was the puppet. In the Romney/Ryan case, we have two puppets. The problem in the R/R case is that we don't even know who is(are?) the puppet masters. Adelson? Kochs? Some rich folks in China? In Russia? We don't fully know.
 
2012-08-17 02:28:55 PM  

TIKIMAN87: Exactly. I love having an office job :D

Ahhh the A/C fels great! A bit cold actually... Crazy 1st world problems...

U MAD??



Uhh pretty sure most of us are in a office with A/C that "fels" great.

Do you think all those libs are posting from the unemployment line?
 
2012-08-17 02:40:06 PM  
I think I'm actually more upset that every other media organization didn't call Ryan on his outright lies than I am about him lying.

/and I'm not sure which is worse for the future of our country.
 
2012-08-17 02:49:42 PM  

zarberg: I think I'm actually more upset that every other media organization didn't call Ryan on his outright lies than I am about him lying.

/and I'm not sure which is worse for the future of our country.


Well we all know that the media is unabashedly liberal so I'm sure they have some complex anti-RR gambit up their sleeve. They're just waiting for the right time to strike.
 
2012-08-17 03:04:45 PM  

Mugato: zarberg: I think I'm actually more upset that every other media organization didn't call Ryan on his outright lies than I am about him lying.

/and I'm not sure which is worse for the future of our country.

Well we all know that the media is unabashedly liberal so I'm sure they have some complex anti-RR gambit up their sleeve. They're just waiting for the right time to strike.


A friend on the inside tells me the bastards plan to quote Romney and Ryan, verbatim, EVERY SINGLE DAY. 
They don't stand a chance.
 
2012-08-17 03:05:56 PM  

zarberg: I think I'm actually more upset that every other media organization didn't call Ryan on his outright lies than I am about him lying.

/and I'm not sure which is worse for the future of our country.


I don't think there is enough time in a 24 hour news cycle to call Republicans on all their lies. There are literally making the shiat up faster than it can be shot down.
 
2012-08-17 05:07:45 PM  

johnnyrocket: Why is this election even close?


Because the MSM loses its power as kingmakers//kingbreakers and all of the attendant influence that buys if one party is completely destroyed and no longer a viable option to play off against the other. Also, owners of the MSM are not exactly pro-tax on rich people.
 
2012-08-17 05:39:03 PM  

Captain_Ballbeard: johnnyrocket: Why is this election even close?

Because the MSM loses its power as kingmakers//kingbreakers and all of the attendant influence that buys if one party is completely destroyed and no longer a viable option to play off against the other. Also, owners of the MSM are not exactly pro-tax on rich people.


So there aren't tens of millions of Americans that disagree with Obama's policies and don't want him as president anymore? And the lib media is 100% in the tank for Obama in the first place. They may want people to watch commercials so they can keep their jobs, but they are behind Obama with everything they've got.

We're going to find out in Nov just how much love is left for Obama. It may be less than is commonly recognized on Fark.
 
2012-08-17 06:36:11 PM  

MeinRS6: And the lib media is 100% in the tank for Obama in the first place. They may want people to watch commercials so they can keep their jobs, but they are behind Obama with everything they've got.


LOL, where do you get these delusions about a "liberal media"? I thought that talking point died with McCain/Palin's candidacy. Yet people are still parroting it.

Fox News is the #1 news show and it makes Cold War era Pravda look fair and balanced. You know that.
 
2012-08-17 08:33:01 PM  

Carn: Maybe he should practice law as the POTUS instead of breaking it.

Guess he's doing alright then.

The Supreme Court on Thursday upheld President Obama's health care overhaul law, saying its requirement that most Americans obtain insurance or pay a penalty was authorized by Congress's power to levy taxes.


Not even relevant. Despite what the Derp Squad says, signing a law that's later struck down by the Supreme Court is not an illegal act.
 
2012-08-17 08:41:29 PM  

Mugato: MeinRS6: And the lib media is 100% in the tank for Obama in the first place. They may want people to watch commercials so they can keep their jobs, but they are behind Obama with everything they've got.

LOL, where do you get these delusions about a "liberal media"? I thought that talking point died with McCain/Palin's candidacy. Yet people are still parroting it.

Fox News is the #1 news show and it makes Cold War era Pravda look fair and balanced. You know that.


Fox is #1 because it is getting ALL of the conservatives(and then some) and all of the other networks have to split just the libs. The networks have been exposed as libby liars over and over again. They can't control the dialogue like they used to. People are running away from the libby liars in droves and have been for years. But that doesn't mean that the libs on those networks have stopped being libs or stopped supporting Obama 100%.
 
2012-08-17 08:45:36 PM  

MeinRS6: Fox is #1 because it is getting ALL of the conservatives(and then some) and all of the other networks have to split just the libs. The networks have been exposed as libby liars over and over again. They can't control the dialogue like they used to. People are running away from the libby liars in droves and have been for years. But that doesn't mean that the libs on those networks have stopped being libs or stopped supporting Obama 100%.


Well facts do have a liberal bias I suppose. But unlike Fox News, all those libby networks don't editorialize at the news desk or flat out make shiat up.
 
2012-08-17 09:10:49 PM  

Mugato: MeinRS6: Fox is #1 because it is getting ALL of the conservatives(and then some) and all of the other networks have to split just the libs. The networks have been exposed as libby liars over and over again. They can't control the dialogue like they used to. People are running away from the libby liars in droves and have been for years. But that doesn't mean that the libs on those networks have stopped being libs or stopped supporting Obama 100%.

Well facts do have a liberal bias I suppose. But unlike Fox News, all those libby networks don't editorialize at the news desk or flat out make shiat up.


BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

Oh, man. That's a good one. You've probably been saving that knee slapper up for months.
 
2012-08-17 09:13:18 PM  

MeinRS6: The networks have been exposed as libby liars over and over again.


That's an odd thing to say in a thread about Paul Ryan telling flat out lies.
 
2012-08-17 09:32:56 PM  

MeinRS6: Mugato: MeinRS6: And the lib media is 100% in the tank for Obama in the first place. They may want people to watch commercials so they can keep their jobs, but they are behind Obama with everything they've got.

LOL, where do you get these delusions about a "liberal media"? I thought that talking point died with McCain/Palin's candidacy. Yet people are still parroting it.

Fox News is the #1 news show and it makes Cold War era Pravda look fair and balanced. You know that.

Fox is #1 because it is getting ALL of the conservatives(and then some) and all of the other networks have to split just the libs. The networks have been exposed as libby liars over and over again. They can't control the dialogue like they used to. People are running away from the libby liars in droves and have been for years. But that doesn't mean that the libs on those networks have stopped being libs or stopped supporting Obama 100%.


You're right. I remember hearing McCain being interviewed in 2008 on NPR for his prez run. I was thinking, "WTF LSM. Don't you get the game?"

And, then there is Michael Steele constantly on MSNBC. Farking RINO. (Thank God we got rid of that affirmative action twat from the RNC).

And, let's not forget PBS' coddling of Mr. Rogers. Have we seen a creepier brain washing of our youth in living memory. Outside of Sesame Street, I mean?
 
2012-08-17 09:44:43 PM  
Why not say the proper thing for a Teahadist, "I am repatriating money to my constituents that was unjustly taken away by a Federal government."
 
2012-08-17 09:50:06 PM  

MeinRS6: BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

Oh, man. That's a good one. You've probably been saving that knee slapper up for months.


It's okay, most other Fox viewers don't realize it either.
 
2012-08-17 10:18:00 PM  

Mugato: MeinRS6: BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

Oh, man. That's a good one. You've probably been saving that knee slapper up for months.

It's okay, most other Fox viewers don't realize it either.


Right. I'm not getting my news off the web just like you or anything like that.

/rolls eyes
//gimme a good ol' Dan Rather "fake, but accurate"
///maybe an NBC edited 911 call for old times sake
 
2012-08-17 10:52:53 PM  

MeinRS6: /rolls eyes
//gimme a good ol' Dan Rather "fake, but accurate"
///maybe an NBC edited 911 call for old times sake


How many other lies do you need to mention before we forget the topic of this thread - that Paul Ryan is a liar? Because I'm not close at all.
 
2012-08-17 10:59:47 PM  
I like the one about Obama's girlfriend in one of the great books supposedly about himself was an "aggregate" of several women. Hard to nail someone down on if they are telling the truth if their characters are aggregates.

As far as liberal media lies, there are so many. Perhaps we should narrow it down to a single topic to make it manageable.

He's a trivia question for you, that you may have some trouble with if you are all lib media all the time. When did Sarah Palin say, "I can see Russia from my house."
 
2012-08-17 11:00:35 PM  
Dammit - Here's

/not sure about these new buttons.
 
2012-08-17 11:12:17 PM  
You don't give any link love on that? Perhaps you should.

And I think Ryan is a typical congressman that tries to get money for his district. I think he could sign some request without knowing the exact source of the funds. That doesn't strike me as far-fetched at all. But even more importantly, this isn't a big story. It's just not. There's no traction. I'll be surprised if Biden even brings it up in their debate, but it won't make any difference even if he does.
 
2012-08-17 11:35:38 PM  

MeinRS6: I think he could sign some request without knowing the exact source of the funds


Ummm...other than tax dollars, what source could there be?
 
2012-08-17 11:36:13 PM  

MeinRS6: When did Sarah Palin say, "I can see Russia from my house."


She didn't. What she actually said was worse. Tina Fey was doing her a favor.

So lying clearly bothers you when a Democrat does it. Why is it ok when Paul Ryan does it?
 
2012-08-17 11:43:39 PM  

MeinRS6: When did Sarah Palin say, "I can see Russia from my house."


That was Tina Fey in an SNL sketch, genius. People on the internet ran wit it because it sounded so close to something Palin would say.
 
2012-08-17 11:53:56 PM  

djkutch: MeinRS6: I think he could sign some request without knowing the exact source of the funds

Ummm...other than tax dollars, what source could there be?


Well, there you go. So since all of the funds come from the same place, then what's the point in saying "Oh, those came from this pile. Ryan is a liar!"

It's pure politics, based on someone's ledger, but it's not a terrible play by the Dems. They might get a few days out of this.
 
2012-08-17 11:55:39 PM  

Mugato: MeinRS6: When did Sarah Palin say, "I can see Russia from my house."

That was Tina Fey in an SNL sketch, genius. People on the internet ran wit it because it sounded so close to something Palin would say.


I'd bet $20 you had to google that.
 
2012-08-18 12:03:25 AM  
Ryan replies he was misquoted, "I did not ask to not have stimulus funds."
 
2012-08-18 12:12:17 AM  

Dr. Mojo PhD: Mugato: MeinRS6: When did Sarah Palin say, "I can see Russia from my house."

That was Tina Fey in an SNL sketch, genius. People on the internet ran wit it because it sounded so close to something Palin would say.

Here's how it works to deranged losers like MeinRS6:

Ryan lying is ok because Tina Fey "lied" (actually parodied) on SNL, so it's tit-for-tat.

Wait, what's that, the Republican Party actually outright lied in fabricating a quote from Al Gore about how he claimed to have "invented the internet" and then, instead of claiming it was parody (which it's not, they're a political party, not a satire show on NBC), doubled down and used their invented quote as proof of Gore's arrogance?

Oh, what's that, that means the "tit-for-tat" argument actually means truth and justice was made whole when liberals ran with the Palin/Russia quote, teaching conservatives a lesson for what they did to Gore, which means justice has been fulfilled and attempting to justify further lying based on that means you're just once again lying?

Yeah, that's about what they do. First they try to excuse it, then they snivel like little biatches that it's "fair", then you point out that no, they opened the door to what's fair, and then they just keep herpin' and derpin'.

It's honestly like having a guy punch you in the mouth, and then when you lay him out, he punches you again and tries to claim that his second punch was self-defence, instead of what it actually was -- him retaliating for you daring to reciprocate his garbage behaviour. MeinRS6: A testament to deranged conservative behaviour.


Jesus Christ. What are you rambling on about?

Are you drunk?
 
2012-08-18 12:25:21 AM  

Dr. Mojo PhD: I'm really drunk. Sorry I'm making such a ass out of myself. I'm a libtard. What can you expect?


Good point. Take a few aspirin and go to bed now.

Maybe you can read that post of yours tomorrow and explain what that worthless bullshiat means.
 
2012-08-18 12:55:09 AM  

MeinRS6: Good point. Take a few aspirin and go to bed now.


Tomorrow he'll be sober but you'll still be the guy defending a liar.
 
2012-08-18 12:57:17 AM  
It is NOT hypocrisy to be against the stimulus but given that it is reality to get some for your district. Indeed it would be stupid not to ask since it was going to be spent anyways so why not in the district of the people you represent.

But that being said, it is hypocrisy to do this while denying that you did.
 
2012-08-18 12:59:34 AM  
I don't feel any need to defend Ryan. He can do that on his own.

All you are picking up on is that I'm not 100% Fark approved libtarded. I already said what I thought about Ryan and these funds.

If it's a big deal to you, then you were already going to vote for Obama in the first place.
 
2012-08-18 01:02:31 AM  

MeinRS6: If it's a big deal to you, then you were already going to vote for Obama in the first place.


So you just admitted only Democrats think lying is wrong. Judging from this thread, I agree.
 
2012-08-18 01:05:18 AM  

The Why Not Guy: So you just admitted only Democrats think lying is wrong.


i.imgur.com
 
2012-08-18 01:08:16 AM  

MeinRS6: I_Got_Nothing.jpg


I know, sugar.
 
2012-08-18 01:23:53 AM  

The Why Not Guy: I'm a moron.


I know, sweet tits. There's always tomorrow.
 
2012-08-18 01:41:04 AM  

MeinRS6: There's always tomorrow.


And after all this back and forth, Paul Ryan still lied. Nothing you can do or say can change that.
 
2012-08-18 01:58:09 AM  
I want you to really know that I am both shocked and dismayed that you don't like Ryan.

No really - I'm blown away. I thought all liberals would love him. And moreover, I seriously give a fark.
 
2012-08-18 02:19:23 AM  
So when do we reach the point where MeinRS6 has muddied the waters enough that we forget the topic of this thread - Paul Ryan is a liar? Because I'm not even close.
 
2012-08-18 02:19:55 AM  

Dr. Mojo PhD: I wish I wasn't a farktard that edited other peoples' posts, but I am.


Maybe you should try to control yourself in the future. Being a lib, I know that you are automatically dishonest, but you should try to make some effort.
 
2012-08-18 02:21:42 AM  

The Why Not Guy: So when do we reach the point where MeinRS6 has muddied the waters enough that we forget the topic of this thread - Paul Ryan is a liar? Because I'm not even close.


Again, in case I wasn't clear before - I don't give a fark what you think of Ryan.

I fully expect Farklibs to hate him. That is your purpose. You do what you were designed to do - be stupid.
 
2012-08-18 02:31:05 AM  

MeinRS6: I don't give a fark what you think of Ryan. I fully expect Farklibs to hate him. That is your purpose. You do what you were designed to do - be stupid.


You're putting an awful lot of effort into muddying the waters about something you claim not to care about.
 
2012-08-18 02:40:51 AM  

The Why Not Guy: MeinRS6: I don't give a fark what you think of Ryan. I fully expect Farklibs to hate him. That is your purpose. You do what you were designed to do - be stupid.

You're putting an awful lot of effort into muddying the waters about something you claim not to care about.


I'm bored. I'm downloading music, watching North x Northwest, and shaking my head at people like you.

I'm ready for the election to be over already, except for all of the laughs that Farklibs will provide me between now and November.

If this story is a big deal to you, then more power to ya. I could not care less.
 
2012-08-18 02:46:20 AM  

MeinRS6: If this story is a big deal to you, then more power to ya. I could not care less.


Yes, your 18 posts in this thread proclaim your ambivalence loud and clear.
 
2012-08-18 02:51:54 AM  
Oh, yes. You caught me. I was counting on the 20th post converting your vote over to Romney, because I really give a fark.

I'll stop and focus on that now. The next post will be magical and will make you love Ryan more than you love poundin' the pope.
 
2012-08-18 03:01:56 AM  

MeinRS6: ...will make you love Ryan more than you love poundin' the pope.


Like most of what you say, I highly doubt that. You're welcome to try, but let me warn you I really really like pounding the pope.
 
2012-08-18 03:22:49 AM  
Paul Ryan was one of the founding members of REM and knew Micheal Stipe when he had both hair and a Southern accent - 80s music vid
 
2012-08-18 04:36:34 AM  

farkityfarker: All this and only 5 days in.

Those Republicans who are saying that Obama should replace Biden should probably be begging Romney to replace Ryan instead.


Except that what we learned from palin, is that the candidate will, never, ever replace his vp pick, no matter HOW retarded.
 
2012-08-18 04:37:36 AM  

mrshowrules: Based on the last 10 polls, Obama has to be pretty worried about the Gallup numbers:


Rasmussen Tracking Obama +1
Gallup Tracking Romney +2
CNN/Opinion Research Obama +7
Politico/GWU/Battleground Obama +1
IBD/CSM/TIPP Obama +7
FOX News Obama +9
Reuters/Ipsos Obama +7
Democracy Corps (D) Obama +4
Pew Research Obama +10
NBC News/Wall St. Jrnl Obama +6


wait
what?

sarcasm???
sniff sniff
yup sarcasm
 
2012-08-18 07:15:15 AM  

MeinRS6: Mugato: MeinRS6: When did Sarah Palin say, "I can see Russia from my house."

That was Tina Fey in an SNL sketch, genius. People on the internet ran wit it because it sounded so close to something Palin would say.

I'd bet $20 you had to google that.


You lose.
 
2012-08-18 10:35:25 AM  

Dr. Mojo PhD: I'm dishonest about the fact that you've attempted to defend Paul Ryan's lies based on an SNL parody of Sarah Palin, as some sort of "justice"


No, dopey. I wasn't even talking about Ryan at that point. IIRC, I was talking about the media.

The reason I'm laughing at your ramblings was because they were meaningless, incoherent, and show(like you are doing again now) that you can't even follow along on the thread.
 
2012-08-18 12:56:26 PM  
Paul Ryan is still a liar. You'll have to deflect some more.
 
2012-08-18 02:06:42 PM  

MeinRS6: He's a trivia question for you, that you may have some trouble with if you are all lib media all the time. When did Sarah Palin say, "I can see Russia from my house."


Which liberal news media claims she did?
 
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