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2012-08-16 10:43:13 PM  

Greywar: 8 kids


You could've skipped your entire last sentence ;)

/I kid because I respect
 
2012-08-16 10:44:04 PM  
Maybe all the crazy old man was saying is that life is hard and Jesus is a crock.
 
2012-08-16 10:44:18 PM  

LDM90: Let's say you figure out who he "actually" is. So what? It's still just a made-up name on a screen. For all you know, there are only 2 real people posting in this whole thread. Omigod, maybe I'M his alt!!!!


No LDM. You are the demons.
 
2012-08-16 10:44:42 PM  
I'm sorry, why exactly is it illegal to throw a brick into his head again?
 
2012-08-16 10:47:09 PM  

Tickle Mittens: I'm sorry, why exactly is it illegal to throw a brick into his head again?


You have to admire him for the consistency of how utterly buttfark crazy he is. Profiting from the diamond trade in an area where young buys are forced to fight? Perfectly acceptable. Disparaging sexually abused children? Also acceptable.
 
2012-08-16 10:47:31 PM  

Linkster: Ever think that there is a ONE Child per Couple law, and they be serious? Kill the Child and/or YOU!


I'm not sure exactly what you're saying here, but the One Child rule is easily avoided if you have the cash to pay the "fine" to the local authorities. Also if you have a girl as your first child, sometimes they waive the rule. There are a lot of exemptions that have been granted lately to relax the policy. They don't kill the child or you.
 
2012-08-16 10:48:00 PM  

BarkingUnicorn: So you think he should not have answered her question, which was, "why do men dump me after learning that I have three adopted kids?" Instead, he should have let his co-host call the men "dogs" unchallenged, and fed the viewer some comforting BS about how she's better than the men who dump her.

I suppose the most Christian thing to do, when dating, is to find the most farked up woman with the most farked up kids and marry them because they need you.

Would you really advise your own son to do that?


Dammit, I just wish there was some middle ground between these two stupid, stupid positions
 
2012-08-16 10:48:58 PM  

BarkingUnicorn: Does anyone who has commented so far have any adopted children? Foster children?

No? Then STFU.


Uh-huh! I'm adopted so I think u should STFU
 
2012-08-16 10:48:59 PM  

gingerjet: BarkingUnicorn: I note that you are not condemning Robertson for pointing out the challenges that can come with adopting. Nor are you condemning men who choose not to pursue a relationship with a woman who has three adopted kids. Good on you, again.

Robertson isn't pointing out the challenges nor he is congratulating the woman for the sacrifice of raising three children who all got the short straw in life. He is condemning her and her adopted children. Its anti-christian and its bigotry. Robertson is the very definition of "hypocrite".


You and I watched very different videos.
 
2012-08-16 10:49:24 PM  

Bashar and Asma's Infinite Playlist: Linkster: Ever think that there is a ONE Child per Couple law, and they be serious? Kill the Child and/or YOU!

I'm not sure exactly what you're saying here, but the One Child rule is easily avoided if you have the cash to pay the "fine" to the local authorities. Also if you have a girl as your first child, sometimes they waive the rule. There are a lot of exemptions that have been granted lately to relax the policy. They don't kill the child or you.


Well, China has a couple percent difference in population of men to women now and given their overall population numbers that translates to a LOT of pissed off lonely men because of the lack of women. So maybe they're loosening the laws up a bit because of that.
 
2012-08-16 10:50:16 PM  
Egalitarian


I thought adopting damaged kids was something evangelical Christian martyr types like to do?

So you're jumping on P.R.'s bandwagon and bashing this "martyr type"? Hopefully your window seat is under P.R.'s.
 
2012-08-16 10:51:09 PM  

Mattyb710: Wow. This thread went exactly how I imagined it before clicking.


I find a lot of them do. I click thread expecting to see certain responses, and yes, most often, I see them.
 
2012-08-16 10:54:29 PM  

Ringshadow: Well, China has a couple percent difference in population of men to women now and given their overall population numbers that translates to a LOT of pissed off lonely men because of the lack of women. So maybe they're loosening the laws up a bit because of that.


Probably why, but they are and have been loosening the laws. It's not like they're smashing newborns' heads against walls and executing husbands and wives who accidentally conceived a second child. Probably did it post-Mao, but I'm too lazy to look it up.
 
2012-08-16 10:55:58 PM  
My mom adopted a kid a while back (long after I'd grown up and moved out) after taking care of him as a foster child for at the time, a solid half of his life. His birth mother was pretty damn screwed up. When she got pregnant again, she didn't even want to see the baby, but wouldn't abort either so my mom stepped up and got adoption procedures moving before the kid was even born. So rather than grow up having god knows what done to him, he gets to grow up alongside his biological brother in a house that I can tell you from experience, is a safe and loving environment.

She also still does foster care occasionally, but it's a bit more rare. My sister also just had her first son and she and her husband live there. And my brother moved back in.

I'm glad to be out of there and on my own, but seriously, if Pat Robertson wants to say anything bad about any of that, he can talk until he's taken enough air inside his empty skull to float away.
 
2012-08-16 10:57:00 PM  

BarkingUnicorn: I find it annoying that people who have not adopted children are condemning a guy who advises others not to adopt children.

"I was adopted." "My sister is adopted." BFD. You didn't do the adopting.

Have you tried to adopt any kids? If so, did you specifically go looking for foreign, abused, starved, or brain-damged kids?

No? Then STFU.


You're missing the point. This Robertson geezer is supposed to be a man of God. He is supposed to be a follower of Christ yet he has not for the first time displayed a profound lack of Christian compassion.

Also, you have no right to tell anyone to STFU. The US is not a totalitarian theocracy yet and you are not the ayatollah.
 
2012-08-16 10:57:05 PM  
Somebody help me out. Does "The 700 Club" refer to the number of people who listen to his show, or the average age of his listeners?
 
2012-08-16 10:59:29 PM  
LDM90: To see you get into an argument with him would be awesome.

all the logging in and out gets tedious
 
2012-08-16 10:59:57 PM  

mod3072: Somebody help me out. Does "The 700 Club" refer to the number of people who listen to his show, or the average age of his listeners?


The 700 dumbasses who chipped in $10 a month to keep Robertson's first local channel on the air.
 
2012-08-16 11:01:32 PM  
Can we please publish the list of people who are stupid or evil enough to send him money?
 
2012-08-16 11:02:20 PM  
Say what you want......but he's right. You're just too afraid, to admit it, or think that saying anything against his point of view, on this, makes you a "better person".

I know some people who adopted a couple of "abused" little boys. Their lives have been an increasing hell as these kids have gotten older.
 
2012-08-16 11:04:35 PM  

Coco LaFemme: BarkingUnicorn: Gyrfalcon: BarkingUnicorn: AdolfOliverPanties: BarkingUnicorn: Furthermore, Robertson did not say that children shouldn't be adopted.

He said, speaking to men who briefly dated this serial adopter, "you're not a dog because you don't want to take on that responsibility. You don't have to take on somebody else's problems."

That is technically true, but it doesn't hide the fact that you have behaved like an asshole on this thread.

Really? In what way?

BarkingUnicorn [TotalFark]
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And whose charming little alt are you?

Nobody's. I've been a liter for more than five years. Just decided to buy Drew some beer a few months ago.

I notice that it's common on Fark to decide that whoever disagrees with you doesn't really exist. Sure saves a lot rational debate.

If you were a liter for more than five years, your account date should be 2007 or earlier, not 2012. So quit being a filthy liar.


Exactly. I just had my sign up fifth anniversary 2 days ago. My boobies post 5th anniversary is next month. I've been a TF'r about eight months... maybe he meant lurker? Either which way ass.
 
2012-08-16 11:06:00 PM  

OhioUGrad: He reminds me of the politicians who criticize publicly everything they do privately (homosexuality, children, hiring illegals, etc...)......in his private life he is probably a really depraved individual, he just has the money to get away with it.


That's how i picture these televangelists. Hypocrites all.

/ except for Joel Osteen, I don't think he (directly) puts people down...
// he still gives me the creeps, however
 
2012-08-16 11:07:40 PM  

BroncoFan_17: Say what you want......but he's right. You're just too afraid, to admit it, or think that saying anything against his point of view, on this, makes you a "better person".


He's a prominent evangelical preacher who just offered a word of warning against men dating women who have "blended" children, since said men won't be strong enough to deal with any trauma those children have experienced, He knew a kid with brain damage once, and you don't want any part of that. Godspeed to you, pious Christian men, "You don't have to take on somebody else's problems."
 
2012-08-16 11:08:30 PM  

Keizer_Ghidorah: BarkingUnicorn: Gramma: I have adopted three kids, two that were sexually abused (among other problems).They did grow up weird. But you know what? They grew up better in our care than they would have if they had continued bouncing between foster homes. Are we just supposed to throw away damaged kids? Abused and neglected kids need all the help they can get.

Been waiting to hear from you, Gramma! Good on you for having the strength and desire to adopt and raise three kids, abused or not.

I note that you are not condemning Robertson for pointing out the challenges that can come with adopting. Nor are you condemning men who choose not to pursue a relationship with a woman who has three adopted kids. Good on you, again.

There are challenges. Does that mean we should abandon abused children somewhere to die, because the challenge isn't worth it? They were innocent victims of abuse, so bury them somewhere and pretend they don't exist? Is that what you prefer?

The men who pass her up for deciding to help these children need to be kicked in the balls so that they can't have any of their own.


You flip from compassionate to violent very quickly. What does your doctor say about that?

People who aren't up to the challenges shouldn't accept them. The result is often the most horrible cases of abuse. We see them here on Fark all the time: foster parents, pet rescuers, etc., who take on more than they can handle.

I commend people who know their limitations and don't exceed them to the detriment of all.
 
2012-08-16 11:09:07 PM  
Fark you Pat Robertson, you evil son of a b*tch. You are the very thing Jesus tried to warn us about.
 
2012-08-16 11:10:12 PM  

WhyteRaven74: Greywar: Who DOES want the additional baggage?

It's not about wanting it, it's about accepting that it comes with the path you've gone down. There's plenty of men who marry women like the one in TFA.


That's great. But there's nothing wrong about seeing that the path ahead isn't going where you want to go, and taking another.
 
2012-08-16 11:11:02 PM  
I read that headline as Rob Pattinson, not Pat Robertson, and it was way confusing.
 
2012-08-16 11:14:38 PM  

Gyrfalcon: And whose charming little alt are you?


Probably a modmins, considering all the greenlights.
 
2012-08-16 11:14:55 PM  
Whole bunch of stupid Farkers in here nipping at the bait.

God bless you BankingUniform.

It's been a good read.
 
2012-08-16 11:15:08 PM  

mod3072: Somebody help me out. Does "The 700 Club" refer to the number of people who listen to his show, or the average age of his listeners?


I think it's the cumulative IQ of producers, hosts, and audience.
 
2012-08-16 11:17:53 PM  
in a way Jesus was an adopted child born of rape, guess he should of been abandoned to die... lame.
 
2012-08-16 11:19:06 PM  

Ringshadow: Bashar and Asma's Infinite Playlist: Linkster: Ever think that there is a ONE Child per Couple law, and they be serious? Kill the Child and/or YOU!

I'm not sure exactly what you're saying here, but the One Child rule is easily avoided if you have the cash to pay the "fine" to the local authorities. Also if you have a girl as your first child, sometimes they waive the rule. There are a lot of exemptions that have been granted lately to relax the policy. They don't kill the child or you.

Well, China has a couple percent difference in population of men to women now and given their overall population numbers that translates to a LOT of pissed off lonely men because of the lack of women. So maybe they're loosening the laws up a bit because of that.


This will make the females more valuable and ultimately give them more power.
 
2012-08-16 11:19:20 PM  
To the non-weird, I feel for you and hope your life gets a little less beige.
 
2012-08-16 11:19:30 PM  

ultraholland: Keizer_Ghidorah: Wow, is there anything that comes out of this guy's mouth that ISN'T some of the most vile, evil, hateful shiat ever uttered by a human being?

No, there is hope yet:

"I really believe we should treat marijuana the way we treat beverage alcohol," Robertson told the newspaper. "If people can go into a liquor store and buy a bottle of alcohol and drink it at home legally, then why do we say that the use of this other substance is somehow criminal?"

but really, he's a piece of shiat


So ever so often he will have a moment of clarity and then he goes back to his old man insanity? That seems to be the case with a lot of these old douchebags.
 
2012-08-16 11:20:42 PM  

Bashar and Asma's Infinite Playlist: Keizer_Ghidorah: The men who pass her up for deciding to help these children need to be kicked in the balls so that they can't have any of their own.

And yet, when given the chance, men will overwhelmingly flock to a woman without any kids (be they biological or adopted). Should the same be done to them?


CSB time

In the between wives time I was on the Lavalife. Got to communicating with a mostly attractive, single mother of one.
(did not yet have any kids at the time)
Mentioned that without any experience, I was willing but unsure... BYE DUDE.

/CSB
 
2012-08-16 11:23:25 PM  

Bashar and Asma's Infinite Playlist: Linkster: Ever think that there is a ONE Child per Couple law, and they be serious? Kill the Child and/or YOU!

I'm not sure exactly what you're saying here, but the One Child rule is easily avoided if you have the cash to pay the "fine" to the local authorities. Also if you have a girl as your first child, sometimes they waive the rule. There are a lot of exemptions that have been granted lately to relax the policy. They don't kill the child or you.


Ok then, fill out the paper work!
 
2012-08-16 11:24:09 PM  

Ringshadow: I love the whole "if you haven't done it, you can't judge" argument.


You don't have kids? Well, that clearly means you have no right to an opinion on my farking my daughter. Having a son or sons isn't enough, either. You have to have daughters. Five of them. Exactly. Because that's how many I have, and you can't know what it's like to have five daughters. Completely different from having four. So you people with four don't know shiat.
 
2012-08-16 11:24:40 PM  

Linkster: Ozaru: That's why Americans like adopting kids from China. They are randomly abducted in rural areas and sent to orphanages in cities where Westerners will pay upwards of $20,000. Since they are abducted at random, the chance of getting a "weird" one is very small. Of course the orphanages always tell prospective customers that the children were abandoned by the side of the road, or some equally ridiculous lie.

Women can still sell their babies to baby brokers for money, so the whole abandonment thing is nothing more than a marketing ploy by the orphanages. Babies who are sold to baby brokers are usually sold to domestic couples, while abducted babies are sold as quickly as possible to Western buyers, where the chances of their parents finding them is negligible. Every single orphanage in China that does foreign adoptions has been caught doing this. In some provinces, officials have even been known to seize babies and put them up for foreign adoption to increase revenue.

Because trafficking babies is so profitable, and there are so many willing buyers in the West, thousands of babies are abducted in China each year. Since this often results in more abducted babies than Western customers, surplus babies are sold to traffickers who raise them until they are old enough to be sold in other countries as sex slaves. Babies who have been sold by their parents usually remain in the orphanage, since nobody is looking for them, and once they are old enough, they are sold as sex slaves.

For parents wanting to adopt a child from China, they should look for some warning signs. Perhaps the best indication that the adoption is not legitimate is the orphanage's director asking for a cash payment, which they obviously just pocket themselves. If they do that, you can almost be sure that the orphanage is simply a front for child trafficking. Legitimate adoptions do not involve under-the-table cash transactions.

tl;dr

Ever think that there is a ONE Child per Couple law, and they b ...


Trafficking reports raise heart-wrenching questions for adoptive parents

This has been going on for a long time, and the Western media is now trying to downplay the abduction aspect of this in favor of seizures by corrupt officials. However, even the Western media is forced to say that "some" of the trafficked children were seized by officials, since the vast majority are stolen by "baby brokers."

Child trafficking is big business, and Americans are the best customers. The instance of local officials seizing babies has only emerged in recent years, probably by officials eager to cash in on this lucrative business. However, before that started, officials were already taking bribes from orphanages to look the other way, and to keep parents searching for their kids away. Now child trafficking is one of the reasons the one-child policy is still in place...because it provides children to sell to Americans. Adopting children from China is child trafficking, plain and simple. Whether the children are abducted, abandoned, or seized, it doesn't really matter...it is all child trafficking. Why would China get rid of its one-child policy when it generates revenue for orphanages, and allows corrupt officials to line their pockets? Also, the number of children seized by the government pales in comparison to the number of babies abducted and sold to foreigners each year. According to an article in the Telegraph, about 70,000 children are abducted by gangs each year. This obviously far exceeds the number of foreign adoptions, and it is believed the surplus eventually become sex slaves. As for children seized under the one-child policy, there is no need to get them out of the country to avoid being located, so abducted children are always given priority when it comes to foreign adoption.
 
2012-08-16 11:24:54 PM  
Oh boy, Pat Robertson AND a troll in the same thread?
 
2012-08-16 11:31:55 PM  

I May Be Crazy But...: LDM90: Let's say you figure out who he "actually" is. So what? It's still just a made-up name on a screen. For all you know, there are only 2 real people posting in this whole thread. Omigod, maybe I'M his alt!!!!

No, I'M his alt!

[neveryetmelted.com image 375x200]


There's a little bit of BarkingUnicorn in all of us.
 
2012-08-16 11:33:13 PM  

AbbeySomeone: Ringshadow: Bashar and Asma's Infinite Playlist: Linkster: Ever think that there is a ONE Child per Couple law, and they be serious? Kill the Child and/or YOU!

I'm not sure exactly what you're saying here, but the One Child rule is easily avoided if you have the cash to pay the "fine" to the local authorities. Also if you have a girl as your first child, sometimes they waive the rule. There are a lot of exemptions that have been granted lately to relax the policy. They don't kill the child or you.

Well, China has a couple percent difference in population of men to women now and given their overall population numbers that translates to a LOT of pissed off lonely men because of the lack of women. So maybe they're loosening the laws up a bit because of that.

This will make the females more valuable and ultimately give them more power.


The One-Child Policy also provides inventory for child traffickers, and child trafficking is one of the main reasons it is still in effect. Why would they get rid of a policy that provides revenue for orphanages, and allows corrupt officials to line their pockets. If Americans stopped buying babies from China, it would remove one of the main incentives to keep the policy in place. Buy American!
 
2012-08-16 11:35:35 PM  

Sgt Oddball: Bathia_Mapes: [i59.photobucket.com image 450x546]

How about "Delete" instead? "End" perhaps?


"Break".


BitwiseShift: I believe this woman's other hobby is adopting children. She and Robertson are neck and neck in the National Crazy contest.

[i779.photobucket.com image 719x662]


Heh, I thought of Bachmann as well. I say we lock them in a room together and play that clip on a loop.
 
2012-08-16 11:38:18 PM  

BarkingUnicorn: Perhaps I don't understand what "liter" means here. I meant that I've read the public parts of Fark, without registering an account, for over five years. I registered when I paid my dues, in March 2012.


A "Liter" is someone who has registered a free account and uses it to browse. A person may choose to register or not for free when browsing. To get a TotalFark account it is necessary to register. A person's registration date is usually assumed to be the date they became an active user (of course this need not be the case). Its been very common over the years for persons who are trolling others on Fark to use very recently registered accounts to do this--especially because some of these accounts are periodically banned from on high. On internet message boards a recent registration date coupled with statements designed to arouse outrage/create flamewars is suspicious to many on a message board. And so is feigning ignorance of internet cultural rules such as this :-)
 
2012-08-16 11:40:43 PM  

vygramul: Ringshadow: I love the whole "if you haven't done it, you can't judge" argument.

You don't have kids? Well, that clearly means you have no right to an opinion on my farking my daughter. Having a son or sons isn't enough, either. You have to have daughters. Five of them. Exactly. Because that's how many I have, and you can't know what it's like to have five daughters. Completely different from having four. So you people with four don't know shiat.


People who have advised themselves not to adopt have no business condemning others who advise people not to adopt. That is why I told people who haven't adopted, or even tried, to STFU. It's outrageous, illogical hypocrisy to say, "You're a bad person if you advise people not to do what I don't do."

It's interesting that all of the vitriol being poured on Robertson and me is coming from people who do not claim to have adopted or tried to adopt. The adoptive parents who've identified themselves have been quite mellow.
 
2012-08-16 11:43:25 PM  
Although Pat Robertson is sick for many reason, the headline is not what he actually said. It is a legitimate point that many men may not want to take on the financial and time responsibility of a woman having three kids she suddenly surprised him with. This is the kind of thing you have to be up front about. Robertson is a moron to be sure, but if a woman I had known long enough to already be "dating" was hiding that from me all this time, I'd leave her too.
 
2012-08-16 11:44:41 PM  
I hate to have to defend pat robertson, but i dont think he's saying no one should adopt messed up kids, just that it's understandable that some wouldn't want to.
 
2012-08-16 11:45:23 PM  

BarkingUnicorn: Does anyone who has commented so far have any adopted children? Foster children?

No? Then STFU.


Pretty sure I've seen your stupid ass comment on things that you haven't directly experienced, so how about you just pipe the Fark down, dipshiat?
 
2012-08-16 11:47:08 PM  
If Pat Robertson had a FARK account, he would probably have a User name like BarkingUnicorn
 
2012-08-16 11:47:18 PM  
And here's your Christian charity going at full blast. It's very darwinist, isn't it? Let the unfit and damaged fend for themselves while good, clean normal people get on with their lives. Doesn't matter if it's not their fault at all, life is hard and if something bad happens to you it's YOUR problem and you better keep it to yourself if you know what's good for you. It's things like this that make me think I was right to eschew organized religion. It's just a scam, if there is a God (not saying either way, I'm no fool) He would not want bastiches like Robertson there as His representatives on Earth. He'd be better off with, I don't know, cockroaches or something. Also, make it so people who don't listen to Patsy's drivel and do adopt a young train wreck pay no taxes. Of any kind. They're doing their bit. And maybe see if ol' Patsy hasn't been pulling a Sandusky somewhere, this contempt for victims of sexual abuse might be less a lack of Christian kindness and more a matter of a predator hating its prey for being too weak.
 
2012-08-16 11:48:58 PM  

NuttierThanEver: He's supposedly a man of God. Jesus ate with the Lepers, dined with whores and said what you do for the least of one of these you do unto me. Someone who claims to follow Jesus should be held to a higher standard.


Bah, when someone publicly claims to follow Jesus, reasonable people should give them that look, like Sophia Loren is giving Jane Mansfield.

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I don't want your money... god wants your money.
 
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