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2012-08-16 11:47:18 PM
And here's your Christian charity going at full blast. It's very darwinist, isn't it? Let the unfit and damaged fend for themselves while good, clean normal people get on with their lives. Doesn't matter if it's not their fault at all, life is hard and if something bad happens to you it's YOUR problem and you better keep it to yourself if you know what's good for you. It's things like this that make me think I was right to eschew organized religion. It's just a scam, if there is a God (not saying either way, I'm no fool) He would not want bastiches like Robertson there as His representatives on Earth. He'd be better off with, I don't know, cockroaches or something. Also, make it so people who don't listen to Patsy's drivel and do adopt a young train wreck pay no taxes. Of any kind. They're doing their bit. And maybe see if ol' Patsy hasn't been pulling a Sandusky somewhere, this contempt for victims of sexual abuse might be less a lack of Christian kindness and more a matter of a predator hating its prey for being too weak.
 
2012-08-16 11:48:58 PM

NuttierThanEver: He's supposedly a man of God. Jesus ate with the Lepers, dined with whores and said what you do for the least of one of these you do unto me. Someone who claims to follow Jesus should be held to a higher standard.


Bah, when someone publicly claims to follow Jesus, reasonable people should give them that look, like Sophia Loren is giving Jane Mansfield.

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I don't want your money... god wants your money.
 
2012-08-16 11:49:12 PM
<b><a href="http://www.fark.com/comments/7272712/78769483#c78769483" target="_blank">Tommy Moo</a>:</b> <i>Robertson is a moron to be sure, but if a woman I had known long enough to already be "dating" was hiding that from me all this time, I'd leave her too.</i>

I'm curious about your political affiliation, now. Do you vote for the Douchebag Party?
 
2012-08-16 11:50:38 PM
Pre-Disclaimer: Pat Robertson is a horrible human being.

That said, he was just saying that a man is not a dog for ditching out on a woman when he finds out she's got three adopted children. I honestly agree with that sentiment.

Then he had to get all Pat Roberson-ey and bring up the reason why a man shouldn't get into that relationship is because the child might end up "weird" due to unknown sexual abuse.

But his basic premise is actually correct... a big part of dating someone is gathering information about someone else to determine if you want to share your life with them... "I have three adopted kids" is a whooooole lotta information about what that life might be like and it doesn't make a guy a jerk if he says "check please!" when that little nugget comes up during the first date.
 
2012-08-16 11:52:05 PM

gibbon1: NuttierThanEver: He's supposedly a man of God. Jesus ate with the Lepers, dined with whores and said what you do for the least of one of these you do unto me. Someone who claims to follow Jesus should be held to a higher standard.

Bah, when someone publicly claims to follow Jesus, reasonable people should give them that look, like Sophia Loren is giving Jane Mansfield.

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I don't want your money... god wants your money.


I should eye fark them?
 
2012-08-16 11:52:14 PM

ciberido: I May Be Crazy But...: LDM90: Let's say you figure out who he "actually" is. So what? It's still just a made-up name on a screen. For all you know, there are only 2 real people posting in this whole thread. Omigod, maybe I'M his alt!!!!

No, I'M his alt!

[neveryetmelted.com image 375x200]

There's a little bit of BarkingUnicorn in all of us.


Speak for yourself, I just got done dropping a deuce.
 
2012-08-16 11:52:48 PM

Ozaru: The One-Child Policy also provides inventory for child traffickers, and child trafficking is one of the main reasons it is still in effect. Why would they get rid of a policy that provides revenue for orphanages, and allows corrupt officials to line their pockets. If Americans stopped buying babies from China, it would remove one of the main incentives to keep the policy in place. Buy American!


While it's true that it does that, it's not entirely true that it does it for that reason.

The national policy is already one of relaxing the restrictions (since the party doesn't want hundreds of millions of sex-starved men looking to vent their frustration). They look at the demographics and change their policies accordingly. While there are, of course, cracks in the system that allow for thriving black markets and corruption, it's disingenuous to say that Americans buying Chinese babies is one of the main incentives for the policy.
 
2012-08-16 11:53:13 PM

Smackledorfer: I hate to have to defend pat robertson, but i dont think he's saying no one should adopt messed up kids, just that it's understandable that some wouldn't want to.


Hush now, this is not the time for facts or common snese. Please frollow along.
 
2012-08-16 11:54:54 PM

Gyrfalcon: BarkingUnicorn [TotalFark]
Fark account number: 760781
Account created: 2012-03-04 23:18:14

And whose charming little alt are you?


I appreciate the speed at which these folks are burning through them. Ignore has got to generate a decent revenue stream for folks who keep getting shuffled off into the dustbin. It keeps beer money flowing, and idiots paying a toll to continue their threadsh*tting. The best thing is to just shuffle them off, and have real conversations with real people, and let the folks pretending to simply be chaff in the wind...
 
2012-08-16 11:55:21 PM

BarkingUnicorn: vygramul: Ringshadow: I love the whole "if you haven't done it, you can't judge" argument.

You don't have kids? Well, that clearly means you have no right to an opinion on my farking my daughter. Having a son or sons isn't enough, either. You have to have daughters. Five of them. Exactly. Because that's how many I have, and you can't know what it's like to have five daughters. Completely different from having four. So you people with four don't know shiat.

People who have advised themselves not to adopt have no business condemning others who advise people not to adopt. That is why I told people who haven't adopted, or even tried, to STFU. It's outrageous, illogical hypocrisy to say, "You're a bad person if you advise people not to do what I don't do."

It's interesting that all of the vitriol being poured on Robertson and me is coming from people who do not claim to have adopted or tried to adopt. The adoptive parents who've identified themselves have been quite mellow.


not mellow.. just not interested in feeding a troll... they know better this close to midnight.
 
2012-08-17 12:00:36 AM
Guess Joseph should have walked too?

...aaaaaand done.

/thread winner
//closed thread
 
2012-08-17 12:01:19 AM
RELIGION OF COMPASSION
 
2012-08-17 12:01:46 AM

BarkingUnicorn: vygramul: Ringshadow: I love the whole "if you haven't done it, you can't judge" argument.

You don't have kids? Well, that clearly means you have no right to an opinion on my farking my daughter. Having a son or sons isn't enough, either. You have to have daughters. Five of them. Exactly. Because that's how many I have, and you can't know what it's like to have five daughters. Completely different from having four. So you people with four don't know shiat.

People who have advised themselves not to adopt have no business condemning others who advise people not to adopt. That is why I told people who haven't adopted, or even tried, to STFU. It's outrageous, illogical hypocrisy to say, "You're a bad person if you advise people not to do what I don't do."

It's interesting that all of the vitriol being poured on Robertson and me is coming from people who do not claim to have adopted or tried to adopt. The adoptive parents who've identified themselves have been quite mellow.


I am now entertained.

I really hope you're not trolling, because it warms the cockles of my heart to think of you pounding away furiously at the keyboard, trying to tell all those internet fools what's what.

keep fighting that potato fight, potato.

/potato.
 
2012-08-17 12:04:32 AM
I think his ideas of Christians taking back Jerusalem from the Jews and Palestinians kind of a cool twist on the situation over there. He really thinks outside the box
 
2012-08-17 12:06:41 AM

BarkingUnicorn: vygramul: Ringshadow: I love the whole "if you haven't done it, you can't judge" argument.

You don't have kids? Well, that clearly means you have no right to an opinion on my farking my daughter. Having a son or sons isn't enough, either. You have to have daughters. Five of them. Exactly. Because that's how many I have, and you can't know what it's like to have five daughters. Completely different from having four. So you people with four don't know shiat.

People who have advised themselves not to adopt have no business condemning others who advise people not to adopt. That is why I told people who haven't adopted, or even tried, to STFU. It's outrageous, illogical hypocrisy to say, "You're a bad person if you advise people not to do what I don't do."

It's interesting that all of the vitriol being poured on Robertson and me is coming from people who do not claim to have adopted or tried to adopt. The adoptive parents who've identified themselves have been quite mellow.


Nonsense. People can have excellent reasons not o adopt, like financial instability. That doesn't mean they have no business expressing an opinion on the subject. And Robertson was making a judgment statement about the quality of a person with whom he hasn't common experience. It's not, be aware of the troubles you're adopting. No. It's that these kids are damaged goods. There's a difference.
 
2012-08-17 12:08:41 AM

BroncoFan_17: Say what you want......but he's right. You're just too afraid, to admit it, or think that saying anything against his point of view, on this, makes you a "better person".

I know some people who adopted a couple of "abused" little boys. Their lives have been an increasing hell as these kids have gotten older.


Orly, Bronco guy? Your one anecdote proves that Pat Farking Robertson is correct? The guy who barfed, "Haitians made a deal with the devil," and so brought a catastrophic earthquake upon themselves?

May Tim Tebow reappear to you on a sparkly white cloud, surrounded by a host of rabid seraphim, and smite your sorry arse on a flaming wheel of rusty swords. Or, alternatively, may you be reincarnated as an abandoned "weird" child, in the full Robertsonian sense, with total recollection of your present train of thought.
 
2012-08-17 12:14:46 AM

Somacandra: BarkingUnicorn: Perhaps I don't understand what "liter" means here. I meant that I've read the public parts of Fark, without registering an account, for over five years. I registered when I paid my dues, in March 2012.

A "Liter" is someone who has registered a free account and uses it to browse. A person may choose to register or not for free when browsing. To get a TotalFark account it is necessary to register. A person's registration date is usually assumed to be the date they became an active user (of course this need not be the case). Its been very common over the years for persons who are trolling others on Fark to use very recently registered accounts to do this--especially because some of these accounts are periodically banned from on high. On internet message boards a recent registration date coupled with statements designed to arouse outrage/create flamewars is suspicious to many on a message board. And so is feigning ignorance of internet cultural rules such as this :-)



Nice punchline. :-) But I'm not feigning anything. Never heard of "liter" until I came to Fark, and no one has explained the term until now. And my comments are designed to counter BS, not to start flamewars. Sometimes it just a little too deep around here.
 
2012-08-17 12:15:15 AM

SumoJeb: BarkingUnicorn: Does anyone who has commented so far have any adopted children? Foster children?

No? Then STFU.

I'm adopted. My biological mom was raped when she was 13. I'm the lucky crotch dropping from that relationship. My adopted parents didn't care. I still got picked.


Hugs {{ }} My mom and both my uncles were adopted (all 3 from different sets of parents).
 
2012-08-17 12:17:51 AM

Gramma: I have adopted three kids, two that were sexually abused (among other problems).They did grow up weird. But you know what? They grew up better in our care than they would have if they had continued bouncing between foster homes. Are we just supposed to throw away damaged kids? Abused and neglected kids need all the help they can get.


Good on ya, hon. My husband is a DCF attorney and he sees kids go into the foster care
system all the time. Most, if not all, have suffered physical abuse and many of those have
also suffered sexual abuse as well. Are these children a challenge? I'm sure they are. But
they are no less worthy of love and security than a child born into a loving, functional family.

Props again :)
 
2012-08-17 12:18:51 AM
For fark's sake people. I asked you not to feed the damned troll, and instead you back a dumptruck full of steak and shovel it right in.

/many of you are far too easily baited
//and he aint no master baiter, can tell you that...
 
2012-08-17 12:19:31 AM

Tommy Moo: Although Pat Robertson is sick for many reason, the headline is not what he actually said. It is a legitimate point that many men may not want to take on the financial and time responsibility of a woman having three kids she suddenly surprised him with. This is the kind of thing you have to be up front about. Robertson is a moron to be sure, but if a woman I had known long enough to already be "dating" was hiding that from me all this time, I'd leave her too.


To be fair, the woman says in her letter that she's told the guys about her kids during the first or second date. She wasn't "hiding" anything.
 
2012-08-17 12:26:29 AM

Keizer_Ghidorah: The men who pass her up for deciding to help these children need to be kicked in the balls so that they can't have any of their own.


No, no they don't. It isn't for everybody. Children's Services turns away many prospective adoptive couples because they don't think the couple can handle the stresses of adopting the tough cases. If a man isn't interested in that type of commitment, it is better that he walk away from it.
 
2012-08-17 12:37:54 AM
If I adopt a child who saw his mother get murdered in a crate and was found lying in a pool of blood for days I am going to name him Dexter. I shall teach him Evangelists are the evil of all evils
And you know the rest
 
2012-08-17 12:40:04 AM
I had to scroll window of all that...

now I'm pissed that I had to do that


woooooooooooooo
 
2012-08-17 12:40:26 AM
The video cut off too soon to see if the co-host ever said anything else. But I loved the fact that she was so quick to call these men dogs, well, she stopped herself then said it nicely. But when Pat jumped in, she said nothing at all. Hmm, weird since she seemed like a strong woman at first until her master (Pat) started talking. I bet this would have ended different had Pat been on the View and said the same thing. But anyway, I kind of like the crazy old bastard. He says what's on his mind, and if you really think about it he does have some points, but his filter is broke.
 
2012-08-17 12:47:19 AM
This guy really is a complete and utter wanker.
 
2012-08-17 12:47:33 AM

Bashar and Asma's Infinite Playlist: Linkster: Ever think that there is a ONE Child per Couple law, and they be serious? Kill the Child and/or YOU!

I'm not sure exactly what you're saying here, but the One Child rule is easily avoided if you have the cash to pay the "fine" to the local authorities. Also if you have a girl as your first child, sometimes they waive the rule. There are a lot of exemptions that have been granted lately to relax the policy. They don't kill the child or you.


Some of the stories I've read make the One Child rule sound less like government policy and more like an evil HOA rule: A lot of people especially in rural areas, seem to get turned in by vengeful neighbors and prosecuted by local commissars, rather than actually being caught by the government and tried by them. There was one case where a man was brutally tortured and killed by the local gendarme for not revealing where his pregnant wife was hiding out so they could make her get an abortion. Since they never caught the wife and procured the abortion, the whole thing sounded really fishy and vindictive to me.

Since if a couple actually goes and HAS a second child, they don't do anything except fine the family (i.e., they don't murder the child or arrest or execute the parents), it sounds even more suspicious to me that it's all a way for neighbors to be mean to neighbors they don't like.
 
2012-08-17 12:54:45 AM
Oh, and why in the hell do farkers keep arguing with people they deem as trolls? Ignore them and move on, dear lord you people are weird. I'm tired of having to get through post after post of idiocy to get to something interesting.
 
2012-08-17 12:55:57 AM

RivenSilver: I read that headline as Rob Pattinson, not Pat Robertson, and it was way confusing.


So did I
 
2012-08-17 12:59:20 AM

BarkingUnicorn: I find it annoying that people who have not adopted children are condemning a guy who advises others not to adopt children.

"I was adopted." "My sister is adopted." BFD. You didn't do the adopting.

Have you tried to adopt any kids? If so, did you specifically go looking for foreign, abused, starved, or brain-damged kids?

No? Then STFU.


Worst troll attempt ever.
 
2012-08-17 01:03:33 AM

vygramul: BarkingUnicorn: vygramul: Ringshadow: I love the whole "if you haven't done it, you can't judge" argument.

You don't have kids? Well, that clearly means you have no right to an opinion on my farking my daughter. Having a son or sons isn't enough, either. You have to have daughters. Five of them. Exactly. Because that's how many I have, and you can't know what it's like to have five daughters. Completely different from having four. So you people with four don't know shiat.

People who have advised themselves not to adopt have no business condemning others who advise people not to adopt. That is why I told people who haven't adopted, or even tried, to STFU. It's outrageous, illogical hypocrisy to say, "You're a bad person if you advise people not to do what I don't do."

It's interesting that all of the vitriol being poured on Robertson and me is coming from people who do not claim to have adopted or tried to adopt. The adoptive parents who've identified themselves have been quite mellow.

Nonsense. People can have excellent reasons not o adopt, like financial instability. That doesn't mean they have no business expressing an opinion on the subject. And Robertson was making a judgment statement about the quality of a person with whom he hasn't common experience. It's not, be aware of the troubles you're adopting. No. It's that these kids are damaged goods. There's a difference.


"I don't have the money to adopt troubled kids, so I'm OK. You don't have the desire to adopt troubled kids, so you're evil." That's not making a judgment statement about the quality of a person with whom you lack common experience?

I have to revisit the video every time I see a new comment here; it's the only to way to keep what Robertson really said straight. He never said anything about "damaged goods" or any kid's "quality" (whatever that is). The only kid he referred to as "weird" is the adopted child of "a dear friend," so I assume he does have some experience with that kid.

Try watching the video some day. Listen to it, and not the voices in your head.
 
2012-08-17 01:06:52 AM

Johnnyflash: Oh, and why in the hell do farkers keep arguing with people they deem as trolls? Ignore them and move on, dear lord you people are weird. I'm tired of having to get through post after post of idiocy to get to something interesting.


Funny, I thought the interesting parts of message boards were all the different opinions.
 
2012-08-17 01:11:28 AM
Quick, somebody adopt him.
 
2012-08-17 01:16:27 AM
Pat Robertson is a douchebag.

My main objection to him is how his little stories of people that donated their last dollar to him and then had all their prayers answered are targeted specifically at poor people.
He preys on the people that can least afford it , but are the most desperate.

...and he lives in a mansion on top of his own private mountain.
 
2012-08-17 01:19:57 AM

gibbon1: NuttierThanEver: He's supposedly a man of God. Jesus ate with the Lepers, dined with whores and said what you do for the least of one of these you do unto me. Someone who claims to follow Jesus should be held to a higher standard.

Bah, when someone publicly claims to follow Jesus, reasonable people should give them that look, like Sophia Loren is giving Jane Mansfield.

[25.media.tumblr.com image 500x564] 

I don't want your money... god wants your money.



The problem with that is where many of us live and work we'd never get that look OFF of our faces. There are plenty of places near where I live where there are churches on 3 out of 4 corners of an intersection.

fjnorton: I think his ideas of Christians taking back Jerusalem from the Jews and Palestinians kind of a cool twist on the situation over there. He really thinks outside the box


There is a subset of Muslims that believe Israel will be wiped from the Earth and the area will again be under 100% Islamic control until the end of time. (I think that's what fuels Ahmadinejad's flames)


BarkingUnicorn: Somacandra: BarkingUnicorn: Perhaps I don't understand what "liter" means here. I meant that I've read the public parts of Fark, without registering an account, for over five years. I registered when I paid my dues, in March 2012.

.... Sometimes it just a little too DERP around here.


FTFY
 
2012-08-17 01:22:09 AM
my mom was adopted. she is "weird" but harmless and someone you would call that nice old lady who might be crazy

but my grandparents who adopted her are saints. the most wonderful people who ever existed. anyone who adopts someone as a broken child is someone who should be rewarded and cherished as a real hero
 
2012-08-17 01:23:54 AM

MaudlinMutantMollusk: BarkingUnicorn: Does anyone who has commented so far have any adopted children? Foster children?

No? Then STFU.

I was adopted


Ditto. And I'm weird as fark.
 
2012-08-17 01:24:18 AM

mod3072: Somebody help me out. Does "The 700 Club" refer to the number of people who listen to his show, or the average age of his listeners?


Yes.
 
2012-08-17 01:24:50 AM

BarkingUnicorn: Funny, I thought the interesting parts of message boards were all the different opinions.


You're being too obvious. I mean, I get it, you're dangling the fruit of diversity and debate in front of someone who has no interest in playing back in order to get bites down the line from defenders of the faith, but you're playing straight out of the textbook script. It's pretty transparent. More often than not, it will catch some neophytes for one or two replies, but that's it. Then you're left grasping for responses again. Go after big fish.

Fark is the sort of place where you need to engage in an argument from beginning until end. Pecking randomly at easy targets is too transparent. Create an argument, then create a significant, noticeable flaw within that argument. When people predictably latch onto that flaw, double down and go nuclear. Extrapolate a poster's opinions to their illogical conclusion and truly go nuts with derp. After a while, you'll get an idea of what pushes certain users' buttons, and can use that to your advantage.

/it's like poker, but you don't really win anything
 
2012-08-17 01:26:24 AM
God damn that Unicorn is a fuggin idiot. Its probably Robertson's posting account here on Fark.
 
2012-08-17 01:30:08 AM

BarkingUnicorn: Does anyone who has commented so far have any adopted children? Foster children?

No? Then STFU.


I was adopted.

/the first rule of being in a hole is you stop digging.
 
2012-08-17 01:33:19 AM

zzottt: my mom was adopted. she is "weird" but harmless and someone you would call that nice old lady who might be crazy

but my grandparents who adopted her are saints. the most wonderful people who ever existed. anyone who adopts someone as a broken child is someone who should be rewarded and cherished as a real hero


Unless they lock the kid in a box and starve him, of course.

People who do well by adopted children, especially the broken ones, have my highest regard.

But that doesn't mean I have low regard for people who don't want to adopt, or even lower regard for people who don't want to adopt a broken child.
 
2012-08-17 01:33:21 AM

syzygy whizz: Not sexually abused.
Not adopted.
Still grew up weird.



/ for a given value of weird...


One of the many reasons I like you ;-)

/Not adopted
//Dad was
///Crazy old man is weird
////He is very much loved by his children, grandchildren and great-grandchildren
 
2012-08-17 01:36:38 AM
Ah. Nevermind. Appears I just fed a troll.
 
2012-08-17 01:52:20 AM
The best thing about adopting sexually abused kids is that it's going to be really tough to screw them up more than they already are, right? I mean, with most kids, if you buy some diving sticks, and they land ass-first on them, you seem like an idiot who just tore up your kid's butthole, At least if they're used to it they probably won't complain the first few times it would happen. I assume that's why Penn State Linebackers were always pretty good at dealing with dogpiles.

But you know what? If they're not already sexually abused, that will seem a lot more traumatic. If they're used to visiting Penn State, well, it's not that extreme so I'd think they'd raise less alarms. Plus, the older they are the more likely it is that they've already been raped by an uncle, priest, minister, teacher, coach, or someone else they trust.

By now their anus could probably accept a watermelon with little more than a sneeze and a sigh, thinking back on simpler times when watermelons were smaller and more evenly round. They probably have contracted at least three STD's, so why even bother with the diving sticks anymore? I stopped paying attention in 1987, but last I heard you'll have the HIV from just sharing a toilet with those types. I assume those types mean the type that like doing cannonballs into shallow pools with pointy objects aimed up. If I've misunderstood that, I apologize.

/amidoingitright?
 
2012-08-17 02:03:01 AM
Sounds like this Robertson cat's got it together.
 
2012-08-17 02:05:14 AM
Robertson is a smarmy con artist. He's actually a trained lawyer and doesn't have a degree in religion or theology. He also does business with war criminals like Charles Taylor.
 
2012-08-17 02:06:29 AM

truthseeker2083:

My partner and I would love to adopt, but fundie whackjobs like robertson have made that near impossible, so put that in your pipe and smoke it.


I wish you and your partner all the best. It took years for my cousin and her husband to adopt because she is epileptic. The *grand* in grand mal seizure is an understatement in her case.

But she can teach grade school in the state of Washington, no problem.
 
2012-08-17 02:07:42 AM

BarkingUnicorn: Somacandra: BarkingUnicorn: Perhaps I don't understand what "liter" means here. I meant that I've read the public parts of Fark, without registering an account, for over five years. I registered when I paid my dues, in March 2012.

A "Liter" is someone who has registered a free account and uses it to browse. A person may choose to register or not for free when browsing. To get a TotalFark account it is necessary to register. A person's registration date is usually assumed to be the date they became an active user (of course this need not be the case). Its been very common over the years for persons who are trolling others on Fark to use very recently registered accounts to do this--especially because some of these accounts are periodically banned from on high. On internet message boards a recent registration date coupled with statements designed to arouse outrage/create flamewars is suspicious to many on a message board. And so is feigning ignorance of internet cultural rules such as this :-)


Nice punchline. :-) But I'm not feigning anything. Never heard of "liter" until I came to Fark, and no one has explained the term until now. And my comments are designed to counter BS, not to start flamewars. Sometimes it just a little too deep around here.


Now it's the "everyone called me out on being a douchebag so that means I am sooo much smar
 
2012-08-17 02:11:19 AM
...ter than them" explanation?Is there any low you won't stoop to in this thread?
 
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