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2012-08-16 02:04:05 PM
And he'd already been told that one of his students' parent had been killed in Aurora. Yeah, that's a firing.
 
2012-08-16 03:17:55 PM
Even George Castanza frowns on this.
 
2012-08-16 03:20:03 PM
I hate to see what will happen when this cuddled student makes it into the real world
 
2012-08-16 03:24:48 PM
Now he's going to learn what happens someone shoots his mouth off.
 
2012-08-16 03:33:04 PM
We're still doing the Sideshow Bob thing? Really?
 
2012-08-16 03:35:37 PM
Aurora Massacre Joke Made Before Son of Victim May Get Professor Fired

How was he supposed to know it was the son's turn?
 
2012-08-16 03:58:14 PM
RUN, if you see this man!
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2012-08-16 03:59:57 PM
How was that even a joke?

The guy needs to be fired based purely on what a crap joke that was.

The fact that it was about the Aurora shooter and in front of a victim of the massacre in class is almost superfluous.
 
2012-08-16 04:07:43 PM

BarkingUnicorn: And he'd already been told that one of his students' parent had been killed in Aurora. Yeah, that's a firing.


Seconded.
 
2012-08-16 04:11:55 PM
I don't get the Sideshow Bob thing.
 
2012-08-16 04:14:54 PM

pudding7: I don't get the Sideshow Bob thing.


This will help you get the Sideshow Bob thing.
 
2012-08-16 04:18:13 PM

zpb52: pudding7: I don't get the Sideshow Bob thing.

This will help you get the Sideshow Bob thing.


Oh good lord.
 
2012-08-16 04:32:36 PM
A tenured humanities professor...

Shouldn't be fired if he has tenure. His impropriety is not severe enough to warrant termination. Callous, stupid, shameful, and inappropriate, yes. But it shouldn't get him fired.
 
2012-08-16 04:45:37 PM

Kome: A tenured humanities professor...

Shouldn't be fired if he has tenure. His impropriety is not severe enough to warrant termination. Callous, stupid, shameful, and inappropriate, yes. But it shouldn't get him fired.


Tenure doesn't protect you from making asinine comments that have nothing to do with the academia you teach. People seem to think that tenure is equal to becoming a "made man" in the mafia. Yes, it grants you academic freedom to speak about topics that might be taboo or out of public favor without fear of institutional retribution, but it hardly protects you from acting like a jack ass.

Now saying that, he probably won't be fired since the process to get a tenure revoked is very lengthy. He'll get a slap on the wrist and every future student will know (thanks to those rate-a-prof websites) that this guy is a tactless jackass who can't even tell good jokes.
 
2012-08-16 05:00:06 PM

Kome: A tenured humanities professor...

Shouldn't be fired if he has tenure. His impropriety is not severe enough to warrant termination. Callous, stupid, shameful, and inappropriate, yes. But it shouldn't get him fired.


"...kids these days are so unprofessional"
 
2012-08-16 05:05:19 PM

scottydoesntknow: Kome: A tenured humanities professor...

Shouldn't be fired if he has tenure. His impropriety is not severe enough to warrant termination. Callous, stupid, shameful, and inappropriate, yes. But it shouldn't get him fired.

Tenure doesn't protect you from making asinine comments that have nothing to do with the academia you teach. People seem to think that tenure is equal to becoming a "made man" in the mafia. Yes, it grants you academic freedom to speak about topics that might be taboo or out of public favor without fear of institutional retribution, but it hardly protects you from acting like a jack ass.

Now saying that, he probably won't be fired since the process to get a tenure revoked is very lengthy. He'll get a slap on the wrist and every future student will know (thanks to those rate-a-prof websites) that this guy is a tactless jackass who can't even tell good jokes.


If this were a pattern of behavior on the part of the profession, I'd be inclined to agree. But if it was just one occurrence, then yes tenure is supposed to protect your job from one bad call, insofar as the breach isn't too severe (in this case, a thoughtless and insensitive attempt at a joke). It doesn't mean he gets off scott-free. But it doesn't mean he deserves to be fired for it.
 
2012-08-16 05:06:20 PM

Kome: If this were a pattern of behavior on the part of the profession


"Profession" should be "professor". My mistake.
 
2012-08-16 05:50:45 PM
Why the fark do we keep calling this guy Slideshow Bob? He's not a farking meme, he's a mass murderer.
 
2012-08-16 05:59:05 PM

GAT_00: Why the fark do we keep calling this guy Slideshow Bob?


Because Drew said so.
 
2012-08-16 06:03:04 PM

Mugato: We're still doing the Sideshow Bob thing? Really?


Apparently so. Use of the term greatly increases your chance of getting a greenlight.

/I don't care for it..reminds me of the Simpsons, and I like the Simpsons.
 
2012-08-16 06:10:10 PM

Mugato: We're still doing the Sideshow Bob thing? Really?


This. Give it up. You failed
 
2012-08-16 06:12:47 PM
So we call this guy Sideshow Bob to "deny him the very thing he wanted," but gave Osama bin Ladin more than he ever wanted by inventing the TSA.
 
2012-08-16 06:18:02 PM

Contrabulous Flabtraption: Mugato: We're still doing the Sideshow Bob thing? Really?

This. Give it up. You failed


I failed? I didn't realize I was attempting anything.
 
2012-08-16 06:26:45 PM

Triumph: So we call this guy Sideshow Bob to "deny him the very thing he wanted," but gave Osama bin Ladin more than he ever wanted by inventing the TSA.


I still don't get the "deny him the very thing he wanted." He's schizophrenic, isn't he? Did he really want fame, or was he doing what the voices in his f*cked up head told him? Who knows?

How about the "Aurora movie shooter?" Just leave the simpsons out of it, please.
 
2012-08-16 06:32:05 PM

Mark Ratner: I still don't get the "deny him the very thing he wanted." He's schizophrenic, isn't he? Did he really want fame, or was he doing what the voices in his f*cked up head told him? Who knows?


People seem to find it empowering to belittle the shooter because they assume he did what he did to be famous. This is of course an assumption based on nothing.
 
2012-08-16 06:38:47 PM

scottydoesntknow: a tactless jackass who can't even tell good jokes


Yeah, that joke was about as funny as the last 10 years of The Simpsons.
 
2012-08-16 06:40:57 PM

GAT_00: Why the fark do we keep calling this guy Slideshow Bob? He's not a farking meme, he's a mass murderer.


Because he committed this crime to be famous

We mock his motivation by naming him such. By calling him Sideshow Bob we take away from him his murderous legacy. Think of this as a 21st century version of the arsonist of Temple of Artemis. He burned the temple to be famous. To take away that power, the king ordered his name to be struck from history, making his arson pointless
 
2012-08-16 06:42:42 PM

Mugato: Mark Ratner: I still don't get the "deny him the very thing he wanted." He's schizophrenic, isn't he? Did he really want fame, or was he doing what the voices in his f*cked up head told him? Who knows?

People seem to find it empowering to belittle the shooter because they assume he did what he did to be famous. This is of course an assumption based on nothing.


I have been confused by this also. People are saying the media shouldnt discuss these mass murders because that is what the murderer wanted. So we should stop covering mass murders? The line of thinking is strange to me.
 
2012-08-16 06:46:09 PM
Looks like the professor never RTFA. Probably wishes he had, as opposed to saying he did and looking like a callous jackass.

Also I second whoever said to call him Ronald McDonald. But I'm sure McDonald's wouldn't approve. Bozo the clown? Spidey the fun licker?

/Wouldn't you think the gingers would have been offended?
 
2012-08-16 07:01:34 PM

cman: Because he committed this crime to be famous


Congrats, you're helping by giving him a nickname.
 
2012-08-16 07:05:45 PM
Why are we trying to ruin the great, memorable character that is Sideshow Bob?
/Sideshow Bob joke is less funny than the professor's.
 
2012-08-16 07:06:54 PM
The joke is insensitive, but not fire-worthy. Get over it, snowflakes.

Now let's all post 9/11 jokes.
 
2012-08-16 07:07:18 PM

cman: GAT_00: Why the fark do we keep calling this guy Slideshow Bob? He's not a farking meme, he's a mass murderer.

Because he committed this crime to be famous


Citation needed....
 
2012-08-16 07:09:44 PM

Gunny Highway: Mugato: Mark Ratner: I still don't get the "deny him the very thing he wanted." He's schizophrenic, isn't he? Did he really want fame, or was he doing what the voices in his f*cked up head told him? Who knows?

People seem to find it empowering to belittle the shooter because they assume he did what he did to be famous. This is of course an assumption based on nothing.

I have been confused by this also. People are saying the media shouldnt discuss these mass murders because that is what the murderer wanted. So we should stop covering mass murders? The line of thinking is strange to me.


Cover the murders, but with less emphasis on the murderer. Keep his mugshot off the front pages, stuff like that
 
2012-08-16 07:09:57 PM
What a maroon. Deserves what he gets.
 
2012-08-16 07:10:44 PM
As a victim of something horrendous you have to realize that most other people will have absolutely no idea what's it's like or any connection whatsoever to the events. Just expect they will make jokes, trivialize it, or whatever and realize the world doesn't revolve around you.

You have to concede that the world is full of idiots, if you get upset every time someone does something stupid you're life is going to suck.
 
2012-08-16 07:11:33 PM

super_grass: The joke is insensitive, but not fire-worthy. Get over it, snowflakes..


Agreed.

People are such whiners now days.
 
2012-08-16 07:12:14 PM
Similar to how it works on Fark.

"Fark: It's all pun and memes until a victim shows up in the thread,"
 
2012-08-16 07:12:45 PM

zpb52: pudding7: I don't get the Sideshow Bob thing.

This will help you get the Sideshow Bob thing.


So to deny him his desire to be a supervillain (which, btw, requires a whole lot more than offing a dozen people to begin with), we're giving him a 'clever' nickname which is already kind of famous on its own? So that now when people Google "Sideshow Bob" they get results related to this guy as well, increasing his fame?

Yeah. That's a great plan to deny him his wish.
 
2012-08-16 07:13:15 PM

Kome: A tenured humanities professor...

Shouldn't be fired if he has tenure. His impropriety is not severe enough to warrant termination. Callous, stupid, shameful, and inappropriate, yes. But it shouldn't get him fired.


This. If that's all it takes for a tenured professor to get canned at that place, I expect everyone else is going to checking the ol' Chronicle of Higher Education for a new jobs.

/Oh, never mind, he was at a United States Service academy. I'm sure their "tenure" is about as useful as their graduates.
 
2012-08-16 07:13:23 PM

Captain Darling: Gunny Highway: Mugato: Mark Ratner: I still don't get the "deny him the very thing he wanted." He's schizophrenic, isn't he? Did he really want fame, or was he doing what the voices in his f*cked up head told him? Who knows?

People seem to find it empowering to belittle the shooter because they assume he did what he did to be famous. This is of course an assumption based on nothing.

I have been confused by this also. People are saying the media shouldnt discuss these mass murders because that is what the murderer wanted. So we should stop covering mass murders? The line of thinking is strange to me.

Cover the murders, but with less emphasis on the murderer. Keep his mugshot off the front pages, stuff like that


Ignoring the murderer and trying to discover what drove them to murder seems dishonest to me. I understand where people are coming from I just dont know if I agree.
 
2012-08-16 07:14:05 PM

Mugato: We're still doing the Sideshow Bob thing? Really?


Yes, really. Conform dammit!
 
2012-08-16 07:14:08 PM
I think the kid, and the school should just let it go. Why is it that everyone collectively assumes that when you gain a seat of authority in some fashion, that you are suddenly incapable of saying stupid things? The situation seems to be amplified by misguided empathy - I mean - come on, what are we, the British?

Damn I hate political correctness. It's ruining the American sense of humor.
 
2012-08-16 07:14:11 PM
A) The Sideshow Bob thing is still asinine.
B) Professor is an idiot.
C) Wait, parents killed at the theatre, arch-nemesis makes crappy jokes....holy hell, it's Batman: The College Years.
 
2012-08-16 07:14:34 PM
Waiting patiently for the right wing to come in and defend this mans freedom of speech...oh wait he's a professor? probably a liberal, good job college!
 
2012-08-16 07:15:44 PM
Telling Kent State jokes would have gone over well in the good ole days?
 
2012-08-16 07:15:53 PM

GAT_00: cman: Because he committed this crime to be famous

Congrats, you're helping by giving him a nickname.


I do kind of like the Artemis arson response. We can still think about this person, but it's not personal -- it's not about him. Rather, our thoughts are descriptive, as just about the person, whoever he is, that burned Artemis.

By calling this person "Sideshow Bob" we can remember the act, which is important, but still forget the person. "Sideshow Bob" is little more than elliptical for the description, "the person who shot up the theater in Aurora", except it adds connotation of being a bumbling megalomaniac. I'm not sure that's a good addition, but I'm fine overall with forgetting the person per se, and instead just remembering the tragedy... to think about the way our civilization is, and hopefully ways we can improve it.
 
2012-08-16 07:16:12 PM
What is the big farking deal? Should we fire everyone who makes the occasional joke in bad taste?
 
2012-08-16 07:16:15 PM
According to an internal personnel document obtained by the New York Times, Prof. Gregory F. Sullivan had put on a documentary and was about to leave the room when he turned to the class and said, "If someone with orange hair appears in the corner of the room, run for the exit."

Some time ago, I was reading about samurai ethics. One of the subjects that came up repeatedly, almost to the point of it becoming a major theme uniting each of the works in the book, was about keeping your mouth shut until you had fully assessed the situation and were absolutely certain that something should be said and that you were a proper person in the proper situation to bear the message so that it would be heard and understood. Otherwise, shut up. Speaking without clear purpose, frivolously, just to add the sound of your own voice to the world, is rarely helpful and usually harmful.

I'd think that this pitiful attempt at a joke is exactly what they had in mind.
 
2012-08-16 07:16:48 PM

Triumph: So we call this guy Sideshow Bob to "deny him the very thing he wanted," but gave Osama bin Ladin more than he ever wanted by inventing the TSA.


If drew was in charge of the feds, I'm quite sure the reaction to 9/11 would have been more sensible. Like....open carry in airports, and open season in anyone who refuses to eat the complimentary bacon passed out by the gate agents.
 
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