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2012-08-16 11:38:16 PM
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Six_By_Nine: Flint Ironstag: neither he, nor us, saw it coming.

That moment was telegraphed by its very existence. It was hardly an "oh snap" moment.

If Black Widow could not contribute by gathering information, she would not have been talking to Loki. The scene would have had no purpose. So, sorry to say, if you didn't see that moment coming, you haven't watched a lot of movies.



I may be in the minority, but I myself didn't find that scene very compelling or noteworthy. Scarlett can handle the action scenes, but she is a god awful actress that seems to only have one setting.

I didn't think TDKR was a terrific movie, but seeing Anne Hathaway as Selina Kyle made me wish we had that caliber of actress for the BW role. Someone who can be a convincing spy.
2012-08-16 09:00:47 PM
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Duck_of_Doom: Flint Ironstag: Techhell: I hope this time they write an actual plot for the movie, and someone teaches Whedon how to write for Thor and Cap.

The "plot" for The Avengers was the group getting together and learning how to work together. All the "aliens invade" crap was just the B story.

You try to have lots of characters to introduce and get to know each other and a complicated plot and you'll end up with a mess.

That's true. Maybe he can focus on writing a better ending for the next one? The ass-pull, deus ex machina was a let down.


The whole Nuke thing was set up well enough for me not to consider it a DEM. We saw the Council having issues with Fury's plan. The launch of the missile was another genuine threat. Turning it from a threat to a solution isn't a DEM. Start suddenly saying "Hey guys, I have a ICBM inside my building!" would have been a DEM.

The one bit that came close was Selvig saying he had secretly/subconsciously built a weak spot into the shield. But the missile would have won the war without that, just with some nasty fallout covering NY... I would have thought having Loki's staff/The cube being able to break it would have been enough.
2012-08-16 08:51:32 PM
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stoli n coke: Flint Ironstag: Techhell: I hope this time they write an actual plot for the movie, and someone teaches Whedon how to write for Thor and Cap.

The "plot" for The Avengers was the group getting together and learning how to work together. All the "aliens invade" crap was just the B story.

You try to have lots of characters to introduce and get to know each other and a complicated plot and you'll end up with a mess.

I liked it, but you have to admit, the plot was pretty thin. It basically felt like a 140-minute demonstration of the "who would win in a fight? This guy or this guy?"

I'm sure if I was 12 or into comics, I would have loved it. I thought it was well made, but just okay.


But the "plot" was the infighting, the arguing, the mistrust etc. The plot was the group getting together. The whole alien invasion was just the Mcguffin to give them a reason to get together and why it was important. You can have the most complicated, in depth, plot but if the characters are 2D nothing characters who you don't care about then it will be a bad film.

And each character had their moments, their time to shine. In the advance publicity some people mocked Black Widow for standing in the Circle of Awesomeness with only two little handguns alongside a freakin god, an indestructible rage machine of unlimited power, a super soldier and a billionaire tech genius in a super suit. By the end of the film no one is in any doubt she is an equal in the team. She (spoiler if there's anyone left who hasn't seen it) plays a god like a violin and neither he, nor us, saw it coming. And we'd seen her do the exact same thing an hour earlier!

And I have never read comics. Any of them. I have no backstory other than random stuff I have read on Fark threads and what I saw in the movies leading up to The Avengers. I didn't even see the Hulk film until after the Avengers, but I still got the Hulk character.
2012-08-16 07:57:41 PM
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Techhell: I hope this time they write an actual plot for the movie, and someone teaches Whedon how to write for Thor and Cap.


The "plot" for The Avengers was the group getting together and learning how to work together. All the "aliens invade" crap was just the B story.

You try to have lots of characters to introduce and get to know each other and a complicated plot and you'll end up with a mess.
2012-08-16 06:24:41 PM
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I hope this time they write an actual plot for the movie, and someone teaches Whedon how to write for Thor and Cap.
2012-08-16 06:15:21 PM
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YodaBlues: ArkAngel: Titanius Anglesmith: Coulson Lives!

/LMD

He died. Since when do comic book/movie characters come back to life?

It depends on if they were stuffed into a fridge or not.


Alexandra "Alex" DeWitt came back, as a Green Lantern no less.

Only 4 people in comics stay dead: Bruce Wayne's parents, "Uncle" Ben Parker, and Boston Brand.

/Coulson lives.
 
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