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(NYPost)   Cops storm into a New York bar and dump all the booze down the drain, only to later find out they raided the wrong bar. Elliot Ness weeps   (nypost.com) divider line 65
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2012-08-16 01:25:11 PM  
I'm surprised the cops dumped the booze instead of making the owner do it in front of them.
 
2012-08-16 02:26:20 PM  
Rex Banner laughs.

/well, you all know what laughter sounds like.
 
2012-08-16 02:28:51 PM  
To Volstead
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2012-08-16 02:29:02 PM  
i178.photobucket.com


F**k the Police!
 
2012-08-16 02:29:38 PM  
That's a lot of money. I hope he wins his suit. Considering he had a valid license and there is nothing legal about the cops destroying his property regardless, this is a pretty simple case.
 
2012-08-16 02:29:45 PM  
NYC cops are slacking. In my day, they would sodomize the bar owners with the booze instead.
 
2012-08-16 02:30:03 PM  
The police must have been unbeerable
 
2012-08-16 02:31:31 PM  
I'm shocked the NYPD would do this, SHOCKED!
 
2012-08-16 02:31:59 PM  
Elliot Ness weeps

I think all true Americans weep. Never mind the illegal and unconstitutional actions by the police, it was an absolutely horrible waste of booze. The cops should be publicly horsewhipped and fired.
 
2012-08-16 02:32:58 PM  
Elegant Mess
 
2012-08-16 02:33:23 PM  

Gunderson: NYC cops are slacking. In my day, they would sodomize the bar owners with the booze instead.


They did. But he's not complaining about that part of the raid.
 
2012-08-16 02:34:19 PM  
All right, men...let's do some good!
 
2012-08-16 02:35:05 PM  
If there was ever a modern organization that ought to be routinely disciplined with gold, old-fashioned Roman decimation, it's the NYPD.
 
2012-08-16 02:35:53 PM  
Ok, you bounce a liquor license check, and you feel the repercussions, I'm ok with that. Somehow I doubt the state's legal recourse is to storm into your bar and dump all your liquor (assuming they raid the correct bar).
 
2012-08-16 02:37:34 PM  
I think they should revoke the lead officer's "policing permit"

Copes w/ Eliot Ness fantasies are freakin scary.
 
2012-08-16 02:38:43 PM  

durbnpoisn: That's a lot of money. I hope he wins his suit. Considering he had a valid license and there is nothing legal about the cops destroying his property regardless, this is a pretty simple case.


Unfortunately, it's probably not simple. Cops are involved. Not only should he easily win the suit + damages, at least one or two supervising officers should be fired for the raid if the destruction of private property is illegal.
 
2012-08-16 02:40:55 PM  

durbnpoisn: That's a lot of money. I hope he wins his suit. Considering he had a valid license and there is nothing legal about the cops destroying his property regardless, this is a pretty simple case.


And then, after the lawsuit is finished and the NYPD has to pay this guy some money, he'll be arrested as soon as he steps out of the courthouse on some trumped-up charges. Probably drug charges, so that they can seize all his assets - including his bar and the money he just got from them - and keep it even if he gets acquitted or the case dropped (or not even picked up) by the DA.

Or they'll just execute him for brandishing a wallet.
 
2012-08-16 02:41:11 PM  
They had a couple of noise complaints about the place, so you know ... everything's cool.
 
2012-08-16 02:41:34 PM  
To be fair, the owner had been driving through a graveyard, and knocking over gravestones (which is bad luck) just a little while earlier.
 
2012-08-16 02:42:20 PM  

robbiex0r: Ok, you bounce a liquor license check, and you feel the repercussions, I'm ok with that. Somehow I doubt the state's legal recourse is to storm into your bar and dump all your liquor (assuming they raid the correct bar).


This.
Wrong Bar, Right Owner. Weep not for the wrongdoer, weep instead for the Thirsty Farkers, deprived of Life giving liquid Cool.
 
2012-08-16 02:43:44 PM  
FTA "illegal drugs and counterfeit money aren't destroyed when seized by cops."

That's because they have more value.
 
2012-08-16 02:46:10 PM  
I guess the bar owner is lucky since they didn't also decide to rape his wife and daughter in front of him. Since they're being all punitive, and all.
 
2012-08-16 02:48:09 PM  

cfffffgagffacfacfacfacfacccccfcaaffff: The police must have been unbeerable


Actually, they were in good spirits.
 
2012-08-16 02:49:50 PM  
What do you have to do to piss off the cops so much they go to this extreme? Something is missing.
 
2012-08-16 02:50:39 PM  

weapon13: FTA "illegal drugs and counterfeit money aren't destroyed when seized by cops."

That's because they have more value.


They do destroy them, just not right away.
 
2012-08-16 02:51:16 PM  
The 94th Precinct's commanding officer, Deputy Inspector Terence Hurson, led the raid and boasted about it afterwards.

"This is something I've wanted to do for a while - we've had noise complaints about the place," Hurson told The Brooklyn Paper a week later.


What a complete tool.
 
2012-08-16 02:52:25 PM  
Did they shoot his dog too?
 
2012-08-16 02:54:07 PM  
The booze was coming at them in an aggressive and threatening manner. The officers took reasonable action to protect themselves from imminent danger of physical harm.
 
2012-08-16 02:56:28 PM  

gshepnyc: If there was ever a modern organization that ought to be routinely disciplined with gold, old-fashioned Roman decimation, it's the NYPD.



When I'm inevitably caught someday, I hope that I'm disciplined with gold.
 
2012-08-16 02:56:53 PM  

redmid17: durbnpoisn: That's a lot of money. I hope he wins his suit. Considering he had a valid license and there is nothing legal about the cops destroying his property regardless, this is a pretty simple case.

Unfortunately, it's probably not simple. Cops are involved. Not only should he easily win the suit + damages, at least one or two supervising officers should be fired for the raid if the destruction of private property is illegal.


Cop cases don't work that way. They'll tie up the case for months claiming qualified immunity and governmental immunity for discretionary acts. The worst that will happen is that the police union will step in and the supervising officers will receive promotions.
 
2012-08-16 03:00:20 PM  

indylaw: redmid17: durbnpoisn: That's a lot of money. I hope he wins his suit. Considering he had a valid license and there is nothing legal about the cops destroying his property regardless, this is a pretty simple case.

Unfortunately, it's probably not simple. Cops are involved. Not only should he easily win the suit + damages, at least one or two supervising officers should be fired for the raid if the destruction of private property is illegal.

Cop cases don't work that way. They'll tie up the case for months claiming qualified immunity and governmental immunity for discretionary acts. The worst that will happen is that the police union will step in and the supervising officers will receive promotions.


promotions plus paid vacation
 
2012-08-16 03:00:48 PM  

scottydoesntknow

The 94th Precinct's commanding officer, Deputy Inspector Terence Hurson, led the raid and boasted about it afterwards.

"This is something I've wanted to do for a while - we've had noise complaints about the place," Hurson told The Brooklyn Paper a week later.

What a complete tool.

Agreed. Here's hoping the next thread we see about these tools, is city giving them the parade they so richly deserve.
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2012-08-16 03:02:07 PM  

redmid17: indylaw: redmid17: durbnpoisn: That's a lot of money. I hope he wins his suit. Considering he had a valid license and there is nothing legal about the cops destroying his property regardless, this is a pretty simple case.

Unfortunately, it's probably not simple. Cops are involved. Not only should he easily win the suit + damages, at least one or two supervising officers should be fired for the raid if the destruction of private property is illegal.

Cop cases don't work that way. They'll tie up the case for months claiming qualified immunity and governmental immunity for discretionary acts. The worst that will happen is that the police union will step in and the supervising officers will receive promotions.

promotions plus paid vacation


They are, after all, the real heroes.
 
2012-08-16 03:02:52 PM  
Bring out the catapault
 
2012-08-16 03:05:27 PM  
Stand your ground!

/and then pour the booze on it.
 
2012-08-16 03:06:11 PM  
Is it 2011 again?
 
2012-08-16 03:06:12 PM  

BigNumber12: gshepnyc: If there was ever a modern organization that ought to be routinely disciplined with gold, old-fashioned Roman decimation, it's the NYPD.


When I'm inevitably caught someday, I hope that I'm disciplined with gold.


www.thinkhero.com


Sees what you did there
 
2012-08-16 03:10:33 PM  

mjohnson71: What do you have to do to piss off the cops so much they go to this extreme? Something is missing.


Says a person who has clearly never interacted with cops before.
 
2012-08-16 03:12:20 PM  

robbiex0r: Ok, you bounce a liquor license check, and you feel the repercussions, I'm ok with that. Somehow I doubt the state's legal recourse is to storm into your bar and dump all your liquor (assuming they raid the correct bar).


In this case, though...FTFA: Even though Kelleran had 10 days to re-send the $4,382, the cops busted into Coco66 - which had a valid liquor license - just five days later, the papers say.

Not only the wrong place (albeit the right owner), but long before his license would have been invalidated. Does an invalidated liquor license necessitate the destruction of all of one's booze, or just that one cannot legally sell it, commercially?
 
2012-08-16 03:13:17 PM  

mjohnson71: What do you have to do to piss off the cops so much they go to this extreme? Something is missing.


I don't even know where to begin.

If your sister showed up with a black eye, would your first statement be "Well, you must have done something stupid for him to give you that shiner. What's wrong with you? Admit what you did!"
 
2012-08-16 03:18:07 PM  

sandbar67: They had a couple of noise complaints about the place, so you know ... everything's cool.


Sure it was the right bar?
 
2012-08-16 03:21:13 PM  

redmid17: at least one or two supervising officers should be fired for the raid if the destruction of private property is illegal.


"If"???

We know how this will go, though. The police will claim qualified immunity, no criminal charges will be filed, at most the officer in charge will quietly be encouraged to start drawing his pension now instead of remaining on active duty.
 
2012-08-16 03:22:26 PM  
According to Papermag, it was Coco66 that didn't have a license, and the liquor was destroyed not by NYPD but by the State Liquor Authority.

But knowing club owners as I do... And Police... I don't know who to believe. These are two groups with a rather tenious grasp of the "truthyness".
 
2012-08-16 03:28:42 PM  

poot_rootbeer: redmid17: at least one or two supervising officers should be fired for the raid if the destruction of private property is illegal.

"If"???

We know how this will go, though. The police will claim qualified immunity, no criminal charges will be filed, at most the officer in charge will quietly be encouraged to start drawing his pension now instead of remaining on active duty.


yeah, I should have put quotations around it but I was too lazy to search the NYLB governance site.
 
2012-08-16 03:34:59 PM  

indylaw: mjohnson71: What do you have to do to piss off the cops so much they go to this extreme? Something is missing.

I don't even know where to begin.

If your sister showed up with a black eye, would your first statement be "Well, you must have done something stupid for him to give you that shiner. What's wrong with you? Admit what you did!"


Calm down: you're going waaaay overboard with the example Mr/Ms Drama.

All I'm saying is normally the cops would just shut the place down and seize the liquor. Why go through the whole act of dumping the stuff out? My guess is this owner has previous history with the cops and/or liquor control.
 
2012-08-16 03:37:24 PM  

mjohnson71: indylaw: mjohnson71: What do you have to do to piss off the cops so much they go to this extreme? Something is missing.

I don't even know where to begin.

If your sister showed up with a black eye, would your first statement be "Well, you must have done something stupid for him to give you that shiner. What's wrong with you? Admit what you did!"

Calm down: you're going waaaay overboard with the example Mr/Ms Drama.

All I'm saying is normally the cops would just shut the place down and seize the liquor. Why go through the whole act of dumping the stuff out? My guess is this owner has previous history with the cops and/or liquor control.


Probably failed to pay the special protection tax and/or doesn't allow cops to drink for free.
 
2012-08-16 03:39:15 PM  

mjohnson71: indylaw: mjohnson71: What do you have to do to piss off the cops so much they go to this extreme? Something is missing.

I don't even know where to begin.

If your sister showed up with a black eye, would your first statement be "Well, you must have done something stupid for him to give you that shiner. What's wrong with you? Admit what you did!"

Calm down: you're going waaaay overboard with the example Mr/Ms Drama.

All I'm saying is normally the cops would just shut the place down and seize the liquor. Why go through the whole act of dumping the stuff out? My guess is this owner has previous history with the cops and/or liquor control.


Your point is no less retarded than it was before. The law clearly prohibits summary destruction of private property by the police like this. There's no reason to ask what the owner did to piss them off.

Plus you're assuming that cops only break the law and act like shiatbags when they are provoked. That's a baseless assumption in my experience.
 
2012-08-16 03:43:30 PM  

CthulhuCalling: mjohnson71: indylaw: mjohnson71: What do you have to do to piss off the cops so much they go to this extreme? Something is missing.

I don't even know where to begin.

If your sister showed up with a black eye, would your first statement be "Well, you must have done something stupid for him to give you that shiner. What's wrong with you? Admit what you did!"

Calm down: you're going waaaay overboard with the example Mr/Ms Drama.

All I'm saying is normally the cops would just shut the place down and seize the liquor. Why go through the whole act of dumping the stuff out? My guess is this owner has previous history with the cops and/or liquor control.

Probably failed to pay the special protection tax and/or doesn't allow cops to drink for free.


That's what I was thinking.
 
2012-08-16 03:46:39 PM  

thetubameister: sandbar67: They had a couple of noise complaints about the place, so you know ... everything's cool.

Sure it was the right bar?


It's the NYPD ... does it really matter?
 
2012-08-16 03:47:38 PM  

indylaw: mjohnson71: indylaw: mjohnson71: What do you have to do to piss off the cops so much they go to this extreme? Something is missing.

I don't even know where to begin.

If your sister showed up with a black eye, would your first statement be "Well, you must have done something stupid for him to give you that shiner. What's wrong with you? Admit what you did!"

Calm down: you're going waaaay overboard with the example Mr/Ms Drama.

All I'm saying is normally the cops would just shut the place down and seize the liquor. Why go through the whole act of dumping the stuff out? My guess is this owner has previous history with the cops and/or liquor control.

Your point is no less retarded than it was before. The law clearly prohibits summary destruction of private property by the police like this. There's no reason to ask what the owner did to piss them off.

Plus you're assuming that cops only break the law and act like shiatbags when they are provoked. That's a baseless assumption in my experience.


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