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(Washington Times)   The topless lobby petitions White House for a woman's right to bare everything, just like the 14th Amendment guarantees   (washingtontimes.com) divider line 42
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2012-08-16 11:50:34 AM
I'm not ok with this. 'cause you know the women who you want to walk around topless aint gonna be the women who are walking around topless
 
2012-08-16 01:49:18 PM

The Stealth Hippopotamus: I'm not ok with this. 'cause you know the women who you want to walk around topless aint gonna be the women who are walking around topless


So, move to a college town to improve the ratio.
 
2012-08-16 02:17:55 PM
They already have the right to bare arms.
 
2012-08-16 02:22:49 PM
This is good news for both R's and D's and especially double-D's.
 
2012-08-16 02:23:09 PM

abb3w: The Stealth Hippopotamus: I'm not ok with this. 'cause you know the women who you want to walk around topless aint gonna be the women who are walking around topless

So, move to a college town to improve the ratio.


Except for a few beaches in Eastern Europe, It just doesn't work that way, sadly.
 
2012-08-16 02:24:35 PM
Aren't dress code laws (er, I mean "decency laws", whatever) usually a municipal/country thing? I'm pretty sure the national government and even the various state governments don't really have anything to do with this.

And if you think these kinds of rules violate national policy, you're going through the wrong branch there, you want the judicial, not the executive.

//My town actually doesn't ban female toplessness, basically any situation where it'd get you in trouble the same applies to men. Sucks to be the rest of you, I guess? Either way, most of us tend to wear shirts and pants regardless, clothing wasn't invented because it's pretty, that shiat is pretty vital to not freezing to death or getting sun-fried or wind-chapped. Plus, pockets. They are awesome.
 
2012-08-16 02:25:48 PM
county, not "country". That kinda reversed the intended meaning of that sentence, heh.
 
2012-08-16 02:27:07 PM
I think it's a protected right in Canada. Of course, for Canadian "topless" means not wearing a coat over your regular coat.
 
2012-08-16 02:28:22 PM
I'm all for anything that moves us further away from this...
www.liberareggio.org

The illegality of toplessness is in the same vein as the burka, simply less extreme. There's no practical purpose forcing women to cover their chests. It's religious / "moral" nonsense and should not be codified in law.

I wish them luck.
 
2012-08-16 02:29:45 PM
I really don't give a shirt
 
2012-08-16 02:33:37 PM
I aproob of this.
 
2012-08-16 02:36:24 PM
i.istockimg.com

Sounds like a plan. May hit work productivity harder than Fark does.
 
2012-08-16 02:53:57 PM

Wyalt Derp: This is good news for both R's and D's and especially double-D's.


What about the double-Rs?
 
2012-08-16 02:56:44 PM
The constitutional argument is sound, though I fear toplessness equality would lead to far more trauma than pleasure.
 
2012-08-16 03:05:44 PM
The downside of course is that if us guys look, we'll get accused of sexual harassment. We damned either way.
 
2012-08-16 03:09:51 PM
legally, i don't think that women should be barred from chest baring, since men are not.

however, i don't want anyone (male or female) to walk around bare-chested. that's my desire, but I don't think it has any place in law.
 
2012-08-16 03:14:12 PM

pute kisses like a man: i don't want anyone (male or female) to walk around bare-chested.


i.imgur.com
 
2012-08-16 03:19:25 PM
Hey, it works for us here in Ontario! Been like 10 years.
 
2012-08-16 03:26:37 PM

Tamater: Hey, it works for us here in Ontario! Been like 10 years.


I live in Ontario (the Canadian province, not the California city), and I don't think I've seen a single boobie in public since the law changed. Not that that's a bad thing, necessarily. I was scarred for life by my visit to a topless beach in Jamaica...
 
2012-08-16 03:30:35 PM
Couple things:

1) I personally don't really care I suppose, as I doubt many women would care, and thus in a real sense a change in the law wouldn't do much. I grew up in a state that is basically topfree anyway, and rarely do women bare "the girls."

2) FTA: "A woman's right to go topless falls under the 14th Amendment's gender equality provision, and nobody knows that better than President Obama. He taught constitutional law."
The 14th doesn't have a "gender equality provision." It has the Equal Protection Clause, which does apply to gender laws, but uses a lower threshold than used in race based laws. Perhaps they were thinking of the ERA, but since that never passed, its not much use. Pedantic, perhaps, but people hoping to make good legal arguments need to stop making up things in the constitution and actually use the stuff that is in there.

3) As noted above, the Executive is not really the guy to go to as this is: (a) a local matter and (b) any constitutional arguments would be for the courts. Additionally, a court challenge might be difficult as - discussed above - gendered laws get lesser "intermediate scrutiny." As such some courts have held the "public sensibilities" or public moralities are enough to qualify as an "important government interest." Of course. given that such morals laws are not en vogue and Lawrence suggests that a "moral" basis for a law is not good enough to defeat Rational Basis, i suppose they could see some victories (with the caveat that there is a big difference between public boobage and the private intimacy discussed in Lawrence).

4) it is likely that any law limiting topfreeness to hot girls (and heck, hot guys) would be impermissible, but awesome
 
2012-08-16 03:38:30 PM

Tamater: Hey, it works for us here in Ontario! Been like 10 years.


I think it was overturned 2 years afterwards.
 
2012-08-16 03:40:09 PM

threedingers: I live in Ontario (the Canadian province, not the California city), and I don't think I've seen a single boobie in public since the law changed. Not that that's a bad thing, necessarily. I was scarred for life by my visit to a topless beach in Jamaica...


The only freed boob I've ever seen in Ontario was a nasty biker chick riding with her man without a shirt on.

90km/h wind does interesting things to mid-aged boobs. Not interesting in a good way..
 
2012-08-16 03:44:27 PM
1) I think most women...even really sexy ones...are more attractive when they wear a top. Leaving something to the imagination is a good idea.

2) I also think it should be their choice. Even if we get a lot more unattractive topless women than attractive ones.

3) TTIUWOP
 
2012-08-16 04:00:36 PM

Krieghund: 2) I also think it should be their choice. Even if we get a lot more unattractive topless women than attractive ones.


Women (and men) have managed to survive all the hideous topless men. It's a safe bet that we'll all survive hideous topless women.
 
2012-08-16 04:05:01 PM

Krieghund: 1) I think most women...even really sexy ones...are more attractive when they wear a top


i116.photobucket.com

NTTIAWWT
 
2012-08-16 04:06:10 PM

mrshowrules: Krieghund: 1) I think most women...even really sexy ones...are more attractive when they wear a top

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NTTIAWWT


Ha Ha. Wrong pic. I meant this one.

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2012-08-16 04:28:10 PM

mrshowrules: Tamater: Hey, it works for us here in Ontario! Been like 10 years.

I think it was overturned 2 years afterwards.


Nope. It's been allowed since 1991. Though, I've never seen one bared public boob in 21 years. Not really a big deal. Life goes on.
 
2012-08-16 04:33:33 PM

Tamater: mrshowrules: Tamater: Hey, it works for us here in Ontario! Been like 10 years.

I think it was overturned 2 years afterwards.

Nope. It's been allowed since 1991. Though, I've never seen one bared public boob in 21 years. Not really a big deal. Life goes on.


The law was adjusted/changed. They had toplessness on one Canada Day and then they weren't allowed the next Canada day or something. I'm almost positive but I cannot do any googles on that subject matter at work. I might be wrong though.
 
2012-08-16 04:36:46 PM
content.nps2.org
 
2012-08-16 06:32:23 PM

mrshowrules: Tamater: mrshowrules: Tamater: Hey, it works for us here in Ontario! Been like 10 years.

I think it was overturned 2 years afterwards.

Nope. It's been allowed since 1991. Though, I've never seen one bared public boob in 21 years. Not really a big deal. Life goes on.

The law was adjusted/changed. They had toplessness on one Canada Day and then they weren't allowed the next Canada day or something. I'm almost positive but I cannot do any googles on that subject matter at work. I might be wrong though.


Haven't heard that. A search of google suggests it hasn't changed.
 
2012-08-16 08:39:32 PM
I have better things to worry about than what other people choose to wear or not wear. Why some folks care so very much about this is a mystery to me.
 
2012-08-16 09:17:42 PM
I have no problem with anyone going topless, bottomless or just less...
 
2012-08-16 09:34:24 PM
dear feminists,
im not necessarily against this because its so unimportant but i would just like you to know that men and women are different. As a result, we have different rules for behavior in our lives.
thnx
 
2012-08-16 09:41:59 PM

GF named my left testicle thundercles: dear feminists,
im not necessarily against this because its so unimportant but i would just like you to know that men and women are different. As a result, we have different rules for behavior in our lives.
thnx


What, exactly, is the reason for requiring women to wear a top? Other than folks trying to legislate their "morals."
 
2012-08-16 11:15:44 PM
I think women should have a right to go topless in principle, but in practice if women start doing this they'd better be prepared for a HUGE increase in comments/catcalls from guys, and a LOT of photos of them appearing on the Internet. 

Personally, I hope this doesn't start happening because while on the plus side I'd actually start seeing actual breasts in real life for a change, I'd be made to feel like a scumbag for even noticing them (even though I absolutely wouldn't be making catcalls or taking photos).
 
2012-08-16 11:35:01 PM

pseudowho: I think women should have a right to go topless in principle, but in practice if women start doing this they'd better be prepared for a HUGE increase in comments/catcalls from guys, and a LOT of photos of them appearing on the Internet. 

Personally, I hope this doesn't start happening because while on the plus side I'd actually start seeing actual breasts in real life for a change, I'd be made to feel like a scumbag for even noticing them (even though I absolutely wouldn't be making catcalls or taking photos).


STOP BEING REASONABLE IN MY FARK!!!!!

/seriously, you summed it up nicely
//well done
 
2012-08-17 12:37:48 AM

beta_plus: STOP BEING REASONABLE IN MY FARK!!!!!


Yeah, that's a bad habit of mine...
 
2012-08-17 12:53:31 AM
If boobies become common in public then boobies stop being special.

I want boobies to stay special.
 
2012-08-17 01:23:44 AM
Chapped nipples are no joke, people. Protect the twins.
 
2012-08-18 12:41:37 AM
This should be done. Here is the petition since the website didn't seem to have it.

C'mon FARKers! Sign this puppy! Its not about worry just whose chest we get to see topless - its about doing the correct thing. Its about starting the ball rolling to GET RELIGIOUS MORALITY OUT OF CODIFIED LAW. This should only be the start.
 
2012-08-18 10:41:27 AM
I have no doubt that countless women will be running in the streets with bare breasts once this effort succeeds.
 
2012-08-18 05:49:57 PM
Some entertaining and informative comments BUT has everyone signed the petition? deadline Sept 13 http://wh.gov/gGCT
See you all at a GoTopless event near you on Aug 26 in honor of Women's Equality Day. Here is our world GoTopless Day map: http://gotopless.org/gotopless-day
 
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