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(Capital New York)   "What the gun control movement can learn from gay rights." Besides how to avoid being shot in the face   (capitalnewyork.com) divider line 185
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2012-08-16 01:00:31 PM
If you think the left wants to take your guns, you're just paranoid!
 
2012-08-16 01:00:44 PM
I thought the gheys LIKED taking a shot in the face
 
2012-08-16 01:01:05 PM
"We're Armed, You're Charmed, Get used to it!"
 
2012-08-16 01:01:20 PM
That just ain't right.
 
2012-08-16 01:02:44 PM
Because the vast majority Americans think gun ownership is a right, no matter what they think about gays, the economy, or women's rights. Gun ownership transcends left v right.
 
2012-08-16 01:03:08 PM
Concealed carry is now legal in all but one state, and that will tip in the next few years.

Maybe the gay rights movement should take a page out of our book.

Also, armed gays don't get bashed.
 
2012-08-16 01:03:40 PM
You can't shoot a rainbow out of the sky.
 
2012-08-16 01:04:13 PM
why is gun ownership more important than LEGAL MARIJUANA??
 
2012-08-16 01:04:59 PM
I like that we have gotten to a point where "X is not an important side of an issue because there are only $Y lobbying dollars spent on it" can just get tossed into a discussion without anyone blinking an eye. Our democracy is so incredibly healthy.
 
2012-08-16 01:05:14 PM

Molavian: Concealed carry is now legal in all but one state, and that will tip in the next few years.

Maybe the gay rights movement should take a page out of our book.

Also, armed gays don't get bashed.


Yep. Anti-gunners are in the minority, even among liberals.
 
2012-08-16 01:05:29 PM

Molavian: Concealed carry is now legal in all but one state, and that will tip in the next few years.

Maybe the gay rights movement should take a page out of our book.

Also, armed gays don't get bashed.


This.

/I'd be posting pink pistol propaganda if I wasn't on the road.
/God made man, Samuel Colt made them equal.
 
2012-08-16 01:05:37 PM

R.A.Danny: Because the vast majority Americans think gun ownership is a right, no matter what they think about gays, the economy, or women's rights. Gun ownership transcends left v right.


That, and the much longer conversation about what exactly is reasonable when it comes to gun control and the right to keep and bear arms. To many, the only solution is to ban some types of guns because of looks or whatever, addressing only accessibility and no other aspects of the problem, when a discussion on ways to improve background checks and other methods of weeding out the loonies in general would be far more helpful in the long run, and would reduce more than just gun violence.
 
2012-08-16 01:06:17 PM
FTFA: " No one in power is scared of the gun control movement. "

Duh. It's a losing proposition. The SCOTUS has spoken: RTKBA is a constitutionally guaranteed individual right. Heller is now well-settled law, on the same level as Roe v. Wade. The collectivist argument has been officially and categorically debunked and rejected. They don't have a leg to stand on, and anyone with any sense knows it.

If they want to be taking a cue from any movement, they need to look at the Pro Life movement. Gun prohibitionists and abortion prohibitionists have more in common than either would care to admit. Both are fighting a losing battle, trying to turn back the clock of social progress against an ever-growing tide of public realization that they are on the wrong side of history.
 
2012-08-16 01:07:08 PM

paygun: If you think the left wants to take your guns, you're just paranoid!



Leland Yee (D-umbass, CA) disagrees:

Link
 
2012-08-16 01:07:27 PM
That is the first website in a looong time that popped up a virus warning. Thanks subs
 
2012-08-16 01:08:22 PM
Just as there are lots of gay people in the military, lots of civilian gay people have guns. Perhaps they should stand their ground and shoot the bigots who prefer the gay people enjoy less freedom than straight people currently enjoy.
 
2012-08-16 01:08:40 PM

Molavian: Concealed carry is now legal in all but one state, and that will tip in the next few years.

Maybe the gay rights movement should take a page out of our book.

Also, armed gays don't get bashed.


While 49 states do have CCW, some of them don't have practical and actual CCW and make it prohibitively hard to get a permit.

Until states are "shall issue" and it's state level not issued by the local corrupt police / sherrif department it's not as rosey of a situation as one might think.
 
2012-08-16 01:08:49 PM

ChipNASA: [i234.photobucket.com image 92x90]

/oblig


for future reference, gifs with malicious iframes in them are never obligatory.
 
2012-08-16 01:09:31 PM

SumoJeb: That is the first website in a looong time that popped up a virus warning. Thanks subs


I saw the same thing. I thought I was coming unstuck in time or something - haven't seen a virus warning in ages.
 
2012-08-16 01:09:34 PM

paygun: If you think the left wants to take your guns, you're just paranoid indoctrinated!


FTFY
 
2012-08-16 01:09:35 PM
Many opponents of a restricted action predict that allowing the action will result in dire consequences. When the action ultimately is allowed, the predicted consequences fail to manifest. Nonetheless, the organized opponents continue to predict the inevitability of the yet-to-manifest consequences, and continue to oppose allowance of that action in other locales using the same failed predictions.

Have I described opposition to allowing civilians to carry concealed firearms, or have I described opposition to opponents of same-sex marriage?
 
2012-08-16 01:09:53 PM
The gun control movement lost, just like the Anti-LGBT crowd will.
 
2012-08-16 01:09:54 PM

SumoJeb: That is the first website in a looong time that popped up a virus warning. Thanks subs


I got a quarantine message from Microsoft Security Essentials right away. So subby, do a virus scan.
 
2012-08-16 01:10:20 PM
I think the better lesson is that the gay rights movement is about getting legal recognition for a civil right, as opposed to taking rights away.
 
2012-08-16 01:10:22 PM
So they want the gun control movement, a movement about depriving people of rights, to learn from the gay marriage movement, which is a movement about granting people rights.

Does not compute.
 
2012-08-16 01:10:58 PM

JohnBigBootay: Just as there are lots of gay people in the military, lots of civilian gay people have guns. Perhaps they should stand their ground and shoot the bigots who prefer the gay people enjoy less freedom than straight people currently enjoy.


umm gay people have EXACTLY the same freedoms as heterosexual people. and both gays and non gays can marry someone of the opposite sex. i don't see where the problem lies.
 
2012-08-16 01:11:03 PM

JohnBigBootay: Perhaps they should stand their ground and shoot the bigots who prefer the gay people enjoy less freedom than straight people currently enjoy.



If didn't know any better, I would say that you condone what happened yesterday.

Call me crazy, but there's a world of difference between actually defending yourself in a dangerous situation and trying to shoot up a bunch of people in a lobbyist office.
 
2012-08-16 01:12:15 PM
How about starting with renaming it from "gun control" to "gun safety" advocates?

The "gun control" advocates include people who want to disarm the public and make it impossible for most people to own a gun. If we focus on gun safety then we are having a discussion on things like training standards for permits, school safety programs for minors, mandatory design elements, a national concealed carry permit, etc.

When we talk about cars it's automobile safety regulations, not "automobile control".
 
2012-08-16 01:12:17 PM
Apparently, it's that dumb .gif of Baloo and Tom Cruise that's throwing up the virus warnings. Not the website.
 
2012-08-16 01:12:23 PM

jafiwam: Molavian: Concealed carry is now legal in all but one state, and that will tip in the next few years.

Maybe the gay rights movement should take a page out of our book.

Also, armed gays don't get bashed.

While 49 states do have CCW, some of them don't have practical and actual CCW and make it prohibitively hard to get a permit.

Until states are "shall issue" and it's state level not issued by the local corrupt police / sherrif department it's not as rosey of a situation as one might think.


Being from Wisconsin, I can't help but to think that the situation will improve. It will be chipped away at and things will keep changing. The big cities will be the toughest, along with the states they control, but it will be done.
 
2012-08-16 01:12:47 PM

Molavian: Concealed carry is now legal in all but one state, and that will tip in the next few years.

Maybe the gay rights movement should take a page out of our book.

Also, armed gays don't get bashed.


They just try to kill people at the Family Research Council.

It's clear that the climate of hate created by progressive leftists and the LGBT community caused this to happen.
 
2012-08-16 01:13:08 PM

jafiwam: Until states are "shall issue" and it's state level not issued by the local corrupt police / sherrif department it's not as rosey of a situation as one might think.


I support gun rights but I don't think there's anything 'rosey' about feeling the need to have a concealed weapon while I'm out and about. But that's me. I don't even like extraneous shiat in my wallet or more than a couple of keys in my pocket. For me to have a heavy-ass piece of hardware on me I'm gonna have to have a pretty strong feeling someone will be trying to shoot me that day.
 
2012-08-16 01:14:30 PM

SumoJeb: That is the first website in a looong time that popped up a virus warning. Thanks subs


I think it was an ad on Fark. I got this:
http://www.microsoft.com/security/portal/Threat/Encyclopedia/Entry.as p x?name=Trojan%3aWin32%2fGiframe.A&threatid=2147626289

After refreshing after posting. I have not looked at the article at all.

Or, something someone posted. Could be that animated gif of Tom Cruise.
 
2012-08-16 01:15:00 PM

clyph: FTFA: " No one in power is scared of the gun control movement. "

Duh. It's a losing proposition. The SCOTUS has spoken: RTKBA is a constitutionally guaranteed individual right. Heller is now well-settled law, on the same level as Roe v. Wade. The collectivist argument has been officially and categorically debunked and rejected. They don't have a leg to stand on, and anyone with any sense knows it.


Unfortunately, the ACLU hasn't caught up. Until they do, they don't get my monetary support.
 
2012-08-16 01:15:09 PM

clyph: Gun prohibitionists and abortion prohibitionists have more in common than either would care to admit. Both are fighting a losing battle, trying to turn back the clock of social progress against an ever-growing tide of public realization that they are on the wrong side of history.


Literally hundreds of anti-abortion bills have been proposed and/or passed in the last couple years. I could probably count on one hand the number of anti-gun bills in that time frame.

The gun nuts are afraid of confiscation for two reasons - 1) they see how effective the anti-abortion zealots have been in getting laws passed and 2) they're paranoid nitwits.
 
2012-08-16 01:15:09 PM
Is this where gun nuts should start shooting up the offices of anti-gun lobbyists?
 
2012-08-16 01:16:28 PM

R.A.Danny: Molavian: Concealed carry is now legal in all but one state, and that will tip in the next few years.

Maybe the gay rights movement should take a page out of our book.

Also, armed gays don't get bashed.

Yep. Anti-gunners are in the minority, even among liberals.


I think that's because the left understand that they have to work with what is to get to what should be. SCOTUS says the first part of the 2nd Amendment is filler, so people have the unrestricted right to bear arms. OK, let's work from there.
 
2012-08-16 01:16:34 PM

beta_plus: It's clear that the climate of hate created by progressive leftists and the LGBT community caused this to happen.


Oh, STFU.
 
2012-08-16 01:17:22 PM

JohnBigBootay: jafiwam: Until states are "shall issue" and it's state level not issued by the local corrupt police / sherrif department it's not as rosey of a situation as one might think.

I support gun rights but I don't think there's anything 'rosey' about feeling the need to have a concealed weapon while I'm out and about. But that's me. I don't even like extraneous shiat in my wallet or more than a couple of keys in my pocket. For me to have a heavy-ass piece of hardware on me I'm gonna have to have a pretty strong feeling someone will be trying to shoot me that day.


Some people also want to carry because of animals. If you run late at night or early in the morning in a city/suburb where you might run into a bear, mountain lion, or coyote, you might want to carry concealed so that you are armed without alarming other runners.

Do you also only carry a fire extinguisher on days when you have a "pretty strong feeling" that your car might catch on fire?
 
2012-08-16 01:18:17 PM

The_Sponge: If didn't know any better, I would say that you condone what happened yesterday.


Oooh, that's a bad read but I can see how it came off that way. That was a bad thing and I think people should visit violence on one another much much much less than our species does so currently. I would strongly prefer if people never shot other people. So, no. No condoning. Just a shiatty play on words.
 
2012-08-16 01:18:29 PM

TypoFlyspray: R.A.Danny: Molavian: Concealed carry is now legal in all but one state, and that will tip in the next few years.

Maybe the gay rights movement should take a page out of our book.

Also, armed gays don't get bashed.

Yep. Anti-gunners are in the minority, even among liberals.

I think that's because the left understand that they have to work with what is to get to what should be. SCOTUS says the first part of the 2nd Amendment is filler, so people have the unrestricted right to bear arms. OK, let's work from there.


It's not unrestricted, but reasonably restricted.
 
2012-08-16 01:19:13 PM

JohnBigBootay: jafiwam: Until states are "shall issue" and it's state level not issued by the local corrupt police / sherrif department it's not as rosey of a situation as one might think.

I support gun rights but I don't think there's anything 'rosey' about feeling the need to have a concealed weapon while I'm out and about. But that's me. I don't even like extraneous shiat in my wallet or more than a couple of keys in my pocket. For me to have a heavy-ass piece of hardware on me I'm gonna have to have a pretty strong feeling someone will be trying to shoot me that day.


Personal choice is personal, obviously.

However, one "doesn't need" and "doesn't feel the need" for a gun, until one does. Situations where it would be needed, pop up and happen very very fast.

Go read "Street Robberies and You" (Google it, you'll find it) for some very insightful information on the subject. Also, this blog:
http://www.nononsenseselfdefense.com/
 
2012-08-16 01:19:22 PM
The problem with using the gay marriage example, though, is that by concentrating on gay marriage -- which is something that until recently didn't have majority support -- LGBT advocates ignored the fact that there aren't anti-discrimination laws in the vast majority of states and there isn't one on the Federal level -- despite polls over the years showing substantial support for non-discrimination laws in the entire country. It's distracted from making real, substantive changes in order to focus on an issue that is more visible.

To compare it to the gun control debate, it would be like trying to work to ban semi-automatic pistols while ignoring areas with massive appeal, even among gun owners -- tightening up enforcement of existing laws, preventing individuals who are mentally ill from obtaining weapons, restricting concealed-carry licenses to only people who have passed a safety exam and haven't had a violent conviction or domestic violence arrest, requiring person-to-person transfers to go through a FFL dealer, etc.
 
2012-08-16 01:20:16 PM

Molavian: Concealed carry is now legal in all but one state, and that will tip in the next few years.


Yep, back towards gun control and not letting people wander around willy-nilly with murder weapons. You can thank IL for resisting that insane impulse.
 
2012-08-16 01:20:56 PM
What does giving an oppressed group of people rights have to do with increasing gun laws?

One enhances individual liberty, the other does the other thing.
 
2012-08-16 01:21:19 PM
how about talking normal. it's not really your looks thats making people treat you differently. but how you inject poop and semen into conversations that don't need poop and semen.
 
2012-08-16 01:22:21 PM

LaraAmber: How about starting with renaming it from "gun control" to "gun safety" advocates?

The "gun control" advocates include people who want to disarm the public and make it impossible for most people to own a gun. If we focus on gun safety then we are having a discussion on things like training standards for permits, school safety programs for minors, mandatory design elements, a national concealed carry permit, etc.

When we talk about cars it's automobile safety regulations, not "automobile control".


The problem, though, is that's not what they're after.

farkmedown: clyph: FTFA: " No one in power is scared of the gun control movement. "

Duh. It's a losing proposition. The SCOTUS has spoken: RTKBA is a constitutionally guaranteed individual right. Heller is now well-settled law, on the same level as Roe v. Wade. The collectivist argument has been officially and categorically debunked and rejected. They don't have a leg to stand on, and anyone with any sense knows it.

Unfortunately, the ACLU hasn't caught up. Until they do, they don't get my monetary support.


How does an ACLU lawyer count to ten? 1, 3, 4, 5...
 
2012-08-16 01:22:33 PM
I'm pro-choice, pro-gay rights, pro-drug decriminalization and pro-gun rights, all from pretty much the same stream of logic.

Self determination. I get cognitive dissonance when I talk to people who call themselves liberals who are liberal on everything topic except the right to defend yourself.

The strange and inconsistent political divisions in America today make voting for me a very very difficult task. It's not picking the best person for the job, it's damage control, trying to vote for the person who you think will be least effective at eroding our rights.
 
2012-08-16 01:22:34 PM
JosephFinn: Molavian: Concealed carry is now legal in all but one state, and that will tip in the next few years.

Yep, back towards gun control and not letting people wander around willy-nilly with murder weapons. You can thank IL for resisting that insane impulse.


As you are an established liar, your claims are not credible.
 
2012-08-16 01:23:01 PM
From the Gay NRA: "They can have my gun when they pry it out of my cold dead ass!"
 
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