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2012-08-16 11:20:14 AM
2 votes:

BitwiseShift


Now that CNN secretly hired James O'Keefe


"How much Keefe?"

"James O'Keefe!"


Nah, it doesn't work.
2012-08-16 11:10:31 AM
2 votes:
www.angryflower.com
2012-08-16 04:16:47 PM
1 votes:

dukwbutter: Mikey1969: dukwbutter: almost all 9mm's are "automatics". This means "semi-automatic"

LOL, no circular logic there, 'Automatic means semi-automatic?', you sure you want to stand on that statement?

dukwbutter: One trigger pull = 1 round fired = "automatic". The more you know, libtards.

Actually, it is "One trigger pull = 1 round fired = semi-automatic>"

The more you know, moron.

Here's what happens; Magazine fed(Auto-loader pistols) are 'usually' called automatics to set them apart from revolvers, but it IS NOT SET IN STONE, and your "logic" has to be some of the most misinformed bullshiat I've ever seen. You sound about as familiar with guns as Sarah Palin. You can't even use the '1 trigger pull = 1 shot thing in guns, because a double action revolver does not require you to cock the gun in any way to fire, so you can pull the trigger 6 (Or 5, 7, 8 or 9, depending on the revolver), times and it will fire each time without you having to do anything but pull the trigger.

But, hey, go ahead and throw out the term "libtards", I usually get accused of being a Liberal because I can't stand the current batch of republicans. Funny how this supposed "Lib" understand the very basic ideas about guns more than you do.

Cocksucker, you're not telling me anything. I've fired more rounds through Class III firearms than you could ever dream of. I own more guns than you. People routinely refer to semi-autimatic weapons as automatics. You, sir, are an idiot and a jackass.


WTF? ITG alert. You need to be at the range in 26 minutes.

Seriously, you just made your penis look TINY. You're getting het up over an argument about gun nomenclature.

Tone it down, tough guy, this is Fark. Calling people dirty names is generally frowned upon.

/That thing must be tee-tiny. Glad I'm not your wife.
2012-08-16 03:54:57 PM
1 votes:
That would make it terrorism. Left wingers and Muslims can't be terrorists. Just like the black panthers can't commit hate crimes.
2012-08-16 03:10:41 PM
1 votes:

theMightyRegeya: Bullseyed: Walker: I'm shocked that the Family Research Council, a "hate group" according to the Southern Poverty Law Center, is causing hate. Hate begets hate. Don't put it out there if you don't want it back.

Damn those jews for causing nazis. Damn them!

It was the Jews' fault for being the 1%.


Na, that the Christians fault. Christians were not allowed to charge interest when lending money, so the Jews had to run the banks. Since the Jews ran the banks, People like Hitler and Obama hate them.
2012-08-16 03:08:56 PM
1 votes:

xander450: Dear god you're a moron. Kennedy was a Democrat, and GW Bush was neither centrist, leftist or communist.


Kennedy being a Democrat has nothing to do with the topic. He was killed by a communist. The topic was famous leftists who shot someone over politics.

Both Bushes were centrists. Just because you don't like that fact doesn't make it untrue. Kennedy was a centrist, and Clinton was a little left of center.
2012-08-16 02:52:05 PM
1 votes:

Bullseyed: Walker: I'm shocked that the Family Research Council, a "hate group" according to the Southern Poverty Law Center, is causing hate. Hate begets hate. Don't put it out there if you don't want it back.

Damn those jews for causing nazis. Damn them!


It was the Jews' fault for being the 1%.
2012-08-16 02:37:37 PM
1 votes:

xander450: Bullseyed: odinsposse: Maybe he was just doing that moral exchange thing people were talking about. You know, you eat at Chik-Fil-a and then donate money to a pro-gay group. He just decided to shoot up some anti-gay people instead.

Also, can anyone think of another instance of an angry crazy liberal shooting up anything? This may be the first time.

Uh, off the top of my head, Lee Harvey Oswald?

Right, but this is sort of the point. There was a good deal of violent liberal terrorism in the 70's (most of it outside the US, with notable exceptions, i.e. the Weather Underground). There's very little now - liberal terrorism is these days mostly limited to property crimes. Conservative terrorism, on the other hand, has been remarkably violent for the last couple decades (see list from earlier post).

I'm happy to have a reasonable discussion about why that would be, but pretending that's not the case just makes you look like you don't know how to read.


Well yeah... the lefties were blowing up cars and shooting the president when they weren't getting elected to office. Communists and socialists don't have any reason to do that anymore since we've had centrists, leftists and communists for presidents for the last 20 years or so.

Unless Obama gets assassinated by someone wearing a KKK outfit, the left is still "ahead" on the violence scale for the current era.
2012-08-16 02:26:08 PM
1 votes:

Ker_Thwap: Again Jodeveki,

Let's not build a straw man and put words in my mouth. I never said I supported one side of the other. You are arguing with yourself.

Someone said they were offended by the hate speech of "burn in hell." I pointed out that both sides often have said nasty things, both left and right. I did not specify FRC or the LGBT. That was all you. I'm a moderate, I have no horse in this race. Stop trying to make it seem like I'm supporting the FRC, it's tacky.


Kind of funny that people who don't believe in hell would be offended by being sent there. You can't expect anyone on the left to assemble a coherent logical string though.
2012-08-16 02:24:32 PM
1 votes:

LabGrrl: IvanTheSilent:

Timothy McVeigh.
They'll say McVeigh wasn't really a conservative. (No, really, I've seen it.)

I've also seen them say Eric Rudolph didn't claim to be a Christian.

...Can I Guiliani the thread and point out that you don't get much more pro-god, anti-gay and right wing than the 9-11 hijackers?


proGod and antigay are not right wing spectrum attributes. Totalitarian, authoritarian type governments are leftist. Anarchy type things are extreme right wing.
2012-08-16 02:20:12 PM
1 votes:

meanmutton: Can we stop calling a pistol an "automatic weapon" now, please?


Can you stop calling handguns pistols?

A pistol is a handgun with a chamber that is integral with the barrel, such as a pepperbox revolver - as opposed to a standard (single-barrel) revolver, wherein the chamber is separate from the barrel as a revolving cylinder.

A handgun is a firearm designed to be handheld, in either one or both hands. This characteristic differentiates handguns as a general class of firearms from long guns such as rifles and shotguns.
2012-08-16 02:18:03 PM
1 votes:

Walker: I'm shocked that the Family Research Council, a "hate group" according to the Southern Poverty Law Center, is causing hate. Hate begets hate. Don't put it out there if you don't want it back.


Damn those jews for causing nazis. Damn them!
2012-08-16 02:14:49 PM
1 votes:

Highroller48: zedster: I doubt he had a legally obtained 9mm automatic handgun, not too many of those.

I'm always amazed at how few peopole konw the dirfference between "Semi-Automatic" and "Automatic".

It's very simple, folks...If more than one bullet comes out when you squeeze the trigger once (a la Robocop), only then is it an "automatic".


Well... If I made cookies with semi-sweet chocolate chips or sweet chocolate chips, could you tell the difference?

Maybe CNN just needs to get back in the kitchen.
2012-08-16 02:12:46 PM
1 votes:

odinsposse: Maybe he was just doing that moral exchange thing people were talking about. You know, you eat at Chik-Fil-a and then donate money to a pro-gay group. He just decided to shoot up some anti-gay people instead.

Also, can anyone think of another instance of an angry crazy liberal shooting up anything? This may be the first time.


Uh, off the top of my head, Lee Harvey Oswald?
2012-08-16 02:11:33 PM
1 votes:

Arcanum: I'm pretty conservative. Most here would think I'm very conservative.

It's annoying as all hell when some nutjob is associated with a conservative movement.

It would be intellectually dishonest for me to say this nutjob is associated with the gay marriage movement.


So when he goes to volunteer there they turn him away for being crazy, right? No? They let him stay? Then he is part of the movement.

Has the LGTBLMNOP hate group denounced him yet?
2012-08-16 02:08:46 PM
1 votes:

Biness: nutbags are nutbags. Was it politically motivated? yep. so right wing has nuts. left wing has nuts. the only real constant is that CNN sucks and must serve their high overlord, liberals


This is the response when a leftie does something bad. When a rightie does something bad suddenly it is THESE PEOPLE ARE ONLY ON ONE SIDE HERPA DURRRRR
2012-08-16 01:42:11 PM
1 votes:

dukwbutter: fluffy2097: dukwbutter: Actually, you know nothing about guns and almost all 9mm's are "automatics". This means "semi-automatic". One trigger pull = 1 round fired = "automatic". The more you know, libtards.

lol.

I'm not even a gun person and I know you are wrong.

A manual gun has to be cocked each time you want to pull the trigger. A pump shotgun would be an example of this. Another example would be a bolt action rifle.

A semi-automatic gun ejects the spent shell casing and loads another round into the chamber, as well as cocking the weapon, allowing a shot to be fired every single time you pull the trigger without the shooter having to do anything else. Example, a 1911. a Glock 9mm, Desert Eagle

A fully automatic weapon is basically the same as an semi-automatic weapon but is designed to allow the weapon to cycle and fire rounds as long as the trigger is pulled. Since this is generally wasteful due to recoil pushing you off target, Automatic weapons frequently have a selector allowing you to use them in Semi automatic fire, fully automatic, and possibly a 3 round burst. Example: M16.

Fully automatic weapons are really hard to get ahold of legally unless you want to join the army and use an M16. Need a lot of permits and permission slips.

Some semi-automatic weapons can be modified to fire fully automatically, but it's highly illegal. I imagine a lot of semi-automatic weapons aren't able to withstand that kind of force without breaking down too

Wrong. Wrong. Wrong. Fully automatic weapons are very easy to get, proving you have no idea what you're talking about. All you need is a class III firearms permit. People do, in fact, routinely refer to semi-automatic pistols, rifles, and shotguns as "automatics", and, if you knew anything about guns (aside from what you read on the intertubes), then you'd know this.


And now a bit of education...

1. No one uses the term "manual gun" though I know what you are getting at...weapons that require the user to do something to load another round into the chamber. This includes pump action, lever action, bolt action. Rate of fire on such weapons can be nearly but not quite as fast as a semi-auto.

2. Revolvers can be single action or double action. They are almost exclusive handguns, but in the past they could also be shotguns or rifles. In a single-action revolver, the hammer is manually cocked, usually with the thumb of the firing or supporting hand. This action advances the cylinder to the next round and locks the cylinder in place with the chamber aligned with the barrel. The trigger, when pulled, releases the hammer, which fires the round in the chamber. To fire again, the hammer must be manually cocked again. Single action revolvers could be modified so that they could be "fanned out", firing rapidly, but not as rapidly as a semi-auto. In double-action, the stroke of the trigger pull generates three actions: (1) the hammer is pulled back to the cocked position (2) while the cylinder is being indexed to the next round, and then (3) the hammer is released to strike the firing pin. Thus double action means that a cocking action separate from the trigger pull is unnecessary; and every trigger pull will result in a complete cycle. Double action revolvers can be modified to be "fanned out" like a single action revolver, but they are already effectively semi-automatic.

3. A semi-automatic firearms fires a round with each pull of the trigger--that is also its effective rate of fire. An AR-15 is not capable of firing at the same effective rate of fire as an Army M-16A3, contrary to media reports. Semiautomatic rifles made to resemble the AK-47 are not a true AK-47s, contrary to Barrack Obama. They may or may not have a detachable magazine. Handguns, shotguns, and rifles can be semi-automatic.

4. Selective fire weapons can be fired on semiautomatic or automatic. Once primed, an automatic weapon will continue to expel spent rounds, chamber fresh rounds, and fire so long as the trigger is held down. Because of the recoil involved with selective fire weapons, they usually appear only as rifles, carbines, or submachine guns (essentially carbine-like weapons that fire pistol ammo used for close combat). Armies around the world issued selective fire weapons to their combat troops starting in World War II, though they were available before that time (the Thompson submachine gun being the most famous). Many army now issue selective fire weapons that fire semiautomatic or in burst mode. Burst mode automatically fires a fixed amount of ammunition so long as the trigger is held down. All selective fire weapons are magazine fed or less commonly, belt fed. US law prevents the ownership of selective fire weapons except to those who have special (and very expensive) permits.

5. Automatic weapons are weapons that are used primarily for firing in automatic mode, though some are actually selective fire weapons. They are usually operated by a crew that consists of a gunner and an ammo bearer who helps reload the weapon. Some machine guns require larger crews as the loading process and maintenance of the weapons is fairly labor intensive. Automatic weapons are with a few exceptions found exclusively in the hands of military units. Yes, it is possible for a civilian in the US to purchase a .50 cal machine gun, a typical crew-served automatic weapon. Expect to have a "working relationship" with the local BATF office--by that I mean bend over, spread cheeks, it makes the microscope go in easier. It is not easy to obtain one, they are very expensive, forget getting brand new, and only dedicated collectors even try.

6. Referring to semi-automatic pistols, rifles, and shotguns as "automatics" - I've heard the term used for semi-auto pistols, but never for rifles or shotguns.

7. "Machine gun" - A heavy, crew served automatic fire weapon. By popular lore and Hollywood, any military style weapon capable of automatic fire or giving the appearance of being capable of automatic fire.

8. "Street sweepers" - These are shotguns that are selective fire weapons. Illegal in the US for a civilian to own one. Actually shotguns are subject to other restrictions as well, such as barrel length, that rifles are not.
2012-08-16 01:37:06 PM
1 votes:

Mr.Tangent: LabGrrl: ...Can I Guiliani the thread and point out that you don't get much more pro-god, anti-gay and right wing than the 9-11 hijackers?

Apples and oranges! How can you compare the children of Christ to evil Muslins?


I can never tell the difference between Christians and Muslins and the Juice. One plays football, right?
2012-08-16 12:50:53 PM
1 votes:

pute kisses like a man: Biological Ali: Ker_Thwap: "I hope you starve" is equally hateful as "burn in hell."

Not even remotely.

i just hope y'all stub your toes on a cold winter's morn.


Now that was truly uncalled for.
2012-08-16 12:49:23 PM
1 votes:

Biological Ali: Ker_Thwap: "I hope you starve" is equally hateful as "burn in hell."

Not even remotely.


i just hope y'all stub your toes on a cold winter's morn.
2012-08-16 11:45:55 AM
1 votes:
"Ker_Thwap: While this blogger is projecting the actions/beliefs of one individual to an entire community... That's pretty much what every single group with an agenda does, left or right.

I don't think this it true. I think you're projecting that behavior onto groups with agendas."

I think you're projecting that I'm projecting.
2012-08-16 11:41:40 AM
1 votes:

dukwbutter: Shove it up your ass nimrod. You dont know shiat about guns. I grew up with them. Semi-automatic weapons are commonly referred to as "automatics". This is true of shotguns, pistols, and rifles. You wouldnt know because youre a liberal douche and have never fired a gun.


i.istockimg.com
2012-08-16 11:31:15 AM
1 votes:
Amazing how many liberals are hating on this article right now...
Kinda getting a stiffy....
or is that S'tiffy...
HA!
2012-08-16 11:31:02 AM
1 votes:

palelizard: Apostrophes are also used for possessives. The act of carrying [the bag and gun] belongs to the volunteer.


If it was a possessive, "Is politically motivated" would be "Was politically motivated."

Whether subby farked up the apostrophe or farked up the tenses, it's still farked up.
2012-08-16 11:18:38 AM
1 votes:

RedThree: What I'm wondering is this:

The more vocal contigent on the right is quite scared of many things - libruls, gays, muslins, etc - and they are known for being pants-wetting cowards.

They, as masters of projection, may be projecting their willingness to be cowed in attempts to scare others ("we came unarmed this time").

Will this shooting cause them to back off? Not saying that is a good thing, but I wonder what their reaction will be.


You sound deranged. But your reaction is noted.

No, I do not think people are going to change their political views out of fear of gunmen from the gay rights movement. That would be silly.

I think the Chik Fil A thing is that people want the right to have their conservative views without democrat mayors becoming fascists about it. It's none of their business what someone's political views are.

If someone wants to protest those views, that's what America's all about. If someone wants to shut down businesses with the 'wrong' opinions, that is a different matter. And if someone is musing about violence scaring people out of expressing their opinions, they are deranged.
2012-08-16 11:17:12 AM
1 votes:

RedThree: What I'm wondering is this:

The more vocal contigent on the right is quite scared of many things - libruls, gays, muslins, etc - and they are known for being pants-wetting cowards.

They, as masters of projection, may be projecting their willingness to be cowed in attempts to scare others ("we came unarmed this time").

Will this shooting cause them to back off? Not saying that is a good thing, but I wonder what their reaction will be.


No, the really crazy among them could retaliate.

Free Republic thought it was the beginning of a purge of RW thought.
2012-08-16 11:15:30 AM
1 votes:
I'm pretty conservative. Most here would think I'm very conservative.

It's annoying as all hell when some nutjob is associated with a conservative movement.

It would be intellectually dishonest for me to say this nutjob is associated with the gay marriage movement.

he's just crazy. Our various disagreements are not affected. Abortion's wrongfulness is not alleviated when some monster bombs a clinic. Gabby Giffords doesn't become right about politics when some monster shoots her. The Gay marriage movement shouldn't be ashamed of some nutjob.

This should be obvious, and I hope the right doesn't make hay out of this psycho. But I also hope the left doesn't make hay when it has the chance. It's annoying as hell.
2012-08-16 11:15:13 AM
1 votes:
A huge, black, gay man with a gun?

Pretty much the nightmare scenario in Jesusland.
2012-08-16 11:13:29 AM
1 votes:
Before we all jump on the condemnation bandwagon, let's remember that other people have done much worse things. While I don't condone his shooting of innocent people, at least he wasn't rude to a Chick-fil-a worker in the drive-thru window.
2012-08-16 11:12:30 AM
1 votes:
What I'm wondering is this:

The more vocal contigent on the right is quite scared of many things - libruls, gays, muslins, etc - and they are known for being pants-wetting cowards.

They, as masters of projection, may be projecting their willingness to be cowed in attempts to scare others ("we came unarmed this time").

Will this shooting cause them to back off? Not saying that is a good thing, but I wonder what their reaction will be.
2012-08-16 11:12:23 AM
1 votes:

bulldg4life: There's no politics in play when it is a crazy person.


Bingo. If you decide you really don't like Democrats or Republicans because your Cheerios told you bad things about one of the groups it's not important which group you sided with.
2012-08-16 11:12:21 AM
1 votes:
Yes, the LGBT community is so well known for their angry, hateful rhetoric inciting violence. duh.
2012-08-16 11:11:30 AM
1 votes:

Whichever modmin is responsible for jammiewf:

YOUR BLOG SUCKS
2012-08-16 11:11:01 AM
1 votes:
That's because they are part of the driveby-lamestream-liberal-fartbama-media-conspiracy!!! why can't you sheeple see that??!?
2012-08-16 11:10:42 AM
1 votes:
I'm sure everyone agrees now that guns should be controlled because when angry liberals have them the world is over.
2012-08-16 11:09:49 AM
1 votes:
The suspect's weapon was a legally obtained 9 mm handgun, according to another law enforcement official.

I doubt he had a legally obtained 9mm automatic handgun, not too many of those.
2012-08-16 11:08:25 AM
1 votes:
This link is bad!

AND YOU SHOULD FEEL BAD!
2012-08-16 10:42:10 AM
1 votes:
So it's only relevant to point out links when someone idiot on the left does it yet how dare anyone mention such links when the idiot is a tea bagger, right?

/your blog sucks
 
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