I bet that guy walked on a public sidewalk at some point in his life. That pretty much invalidates all the hard work he put into building his business.

/amidoinitrite?

BillCo: I bet that guy walked on a public sidewalk at some point in his life. That pretty much invalidates all the hard work he put into building his business.

/amidoinitrite?

The burning goddamn irony of you being allowed to post on the internet is the strongest case for atheism I've ever seen laid out.

// okay that's not true but those stronger cases are already on the ignore list

Obama has nerve to tell taxpayers they didn't contribute. And it's really funny when he takes credit for killing bin laden.

There is no more fertile ground for GOP propaganda than The Small Business Owner (TM.)

stirfrybry: Obama has nerve to tell taxpayers they didn't contribute.

Of course he said nothing of the kind, assclown. Watching you tards gleefully misinterpret his remarks for the last few weeks has been tiresome.

 

Who knew he was a Republican?

The TV theme tune is such a freaken earworm. A coupla times a year I'll find myself randomly, inexplicably humming it.

// probably not randomly
// probably walked past a real life odd couple with consciously registering the fact, and my sub conscious hit the play button

Barricaded Gunman: stirfrybry: Obama has nerve to tell taxpayers they didn't contribute.

Of course he said nothing of the kind, assclown. Watching you tards gleefully misinterpret his remarks for the last few weeks has been tiresome.

"You didn't build that" refered to the building of roads which are funded by tax payers.

"If you've got a business - you didn't build that."

Goddamn it, Obama. We know what you meant, but stop handing the other side ammunition!

/Voting "No Confidence" this year

Polyhazard: There is no more fertile ground for GOP propaganda than The Small Business Owner (TM.)

Might have to do with paying taxes as both employer and employee. It makes a person crazy

Barricaded Gunman: stirfrybry: Obama has nerve to tell taxpayers they didn't contribute.

Of course he said nothing of the kind, assclown. Watching you tards gleefully misinterpret his remarks for the last few weeks has been tiresome.

Tiresome? Oh no, that's what makes the Internet worth the price of admission. Listening to them self immolate, combined with watching Boomers live off of the same gOvernment they decry whilst dying off shrouded in abject fear is enough to put a DiCaprio-esque spring in one's step. 2016 will be even better.

I think it's great that he never had any small business loans, that none of his suppliers use tax-funded roads to deliver his supplies, that he doesn't use a federally insured bank to store his money or make financial transactions, and that he was privately educated. I bet he grows his own wheat and sugar cane, and he processes them, too. Hell, I bet he wasn't even delivered by a doctor or came out of his mom. He came into by a sheer force of will.

The Obama campaign had no comment on Murty's T-shirt.

Why would they? Do they need to comment on every fat retard that wears agitprop on his titties?

So this what Farklibs mean when they say "fark all Republicans"

He'd be slinging made-rites made with buffalo meat if it weren't for Thomas Jefferson and his 233 million dollar check.

Big Ramifications: // probably walked past a real life odd couple without consciously registering the fact, and my sub conscious hit the play button

Unless you got a million bucks floating around to throw in the air like you just don't care, neither side is going to do a damn thing for you. But thanks for playing.

As far as big business is concerned, I think since they are people now that they should all be issued uteri so the Republicans show some interest in regulating them.

Who knew there would ever be a use for the plural of uterus?

Summercat: stirfrybry: Polyhazard: There is no more fertile ground for GOP propaganda than The Small Business Owner (TM.)

Might have to do with paying taxes as both employer and employee. It makes a person crazy

Citation.... needed?

Ever heard of employers paying half of FICA? Self employed people have to pay the whole thing and a little extra. Yeah, we get to deduct half the tax from our taxable income in the IRS shell game.

mytdawg: Who knew there would ever be a use for the plural of uterus?

That's hysterical.

_{^{/hangs head in shame}}

a perhaps more artfully-said version of the same thing

I go there all the time. They have great sandwiches. I knew I didn't like that guy for some reason.

Such vitriol in this thread already. This is how the American public fell into this BS about Red versus Blue, conservative versus liberal. It used to be that we could all at least agree that the word "politician" was a pejorative. Now we're reduced to bashing some small business owner for wearing a t-shirt.

Why the hell is "didn't build" in a different font?

/Government didn't build my business, I did.

Love the way you idiots are deriding this guy for not alienating half of his business for the next few weeks when it is his right to do so.

Would you say the same thing if he had turned Romney down? (cricket)

I would have done the same thing if it had been EITHER candidate.

Lando Lincoln: I wonder what the world would be like if Republicans weren't so goddamn stupid.

Too obvious 1/10

Cupajo: a perhaps more artfully-said version of the same thing

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"The rest of us paid for," is not correct. The factory owner also paid his/her fair share for those same roads, for that same public education, for police, fire, etc. That business person also paid income tax, payroll tax, sales tax and a plethora of other taxes while they built the business up and after succeeding. The small business owner didn't fall out of the sky and suddenly succeed by taking advantage of something everyone else paid for. That person paid taxes their whole life up to that point and will continue to do so going forward. The real question is how much is the correct amount to pay. The point of that comment and President Obama's telling speech seems to be that the successful need to "share the wealth" or, in other words, pay MORE in taxes. Making that suggestion in a bad economy during an election year is not smart.

Government didn't build my business. They just provided the law-abiding, well-educated consumers, the well-regulated suppliers, and the infrastructure my business needed to thrive. Which is why, the first chance I got, I sold my controlling interest to Bain Capital. Because fark gov't for the people, by the people, I got mine.

WTFDYW: Nil Tu Aris: Such vitriol in this thread already. This is how the American public fell into this BS about Red versus Blue, conservative versus liberal. It used to be that we could all at least agree that the word "politician" was a pejorative. Now we're reduced to bashing some small business owner for wearing a t-shirt.

They all figure that if they suck Obamas dick long enough and hard enough that he will give them a cabinet post.

If you're referring to the sycophant politicians who don't dare contradict a more powerful politician in either party, I agree with the sentiment (although not with the uncomfortable portrait you paint with your eloquent syntax).

Governance establishes property rights that protect your property from encroachment or theft by others without you having to kill a mutherfarker or defend yourself from constantly being threatened by mutherfarkers out to kill you.

Governance establishes food preparation standards that allow people to reasonably enter unfamiliar restaurants and consume food without worry that it's been rendered from unfit animals or contaminated grains. Without the USDA and local authority inspection the only restaurants that would exist would be the ones that could claim to own and be responsible for their food from field to table, imagine vertically integrated multinational like McDonalds and Yum! only. Could you claim to be responsible for the food from field to table Mr I-Built-This-All-Myself?

Feudalism is the end result of a pure libertarian ideal. Once you remove all governance then a few leaders establish a new governance based on violence and then it takes decades or centuries to get back to collective democracy.

Death_Poot: Love the way you idiots are deriding this guy for not alienating half of his business for the next few weeks when it is his right to do so.

Would you say the same thing if he had turned Romney down? (cricket)

I would have done the same thing if it had been EITHER candidate.

You didn't read the article, did you? He didn't turn down the Obama campaign. He took the job, and then he wore a shirt that says he built his business without anyone's help (which is impossible). Yes, I would make fun of some asshat who took Romney money and then wore a shirt that said that rich people never gave him anything.

wildcardjack: Feudalism is the end result of a pure libertarian ideal. Once you remove all governance

Libertarianism does not equal Anarchy.

DeaH: I think it's great that he never had any small business loans, that none of his suppliers use tax-funded roads to deliver his supplies, that he doesn't use a federally insured bank to store his money or make financial transactions, and that he was privately educated. I bet he grows his own wheat and sugar cane, and he processes them, too. Hell, I bet he wasn't even delivered by a doctor or came out of his mom. He came into by a sheer force of will.

I think that about covers it.

Cupajo: a perhaps more artfully-said version of the same thing

And even more stupid.

Democats use the government to funnel money to their constituents in exchange for votes. This redistribution is not the same as building a road or policing a block.

Go back to your ivory tower, Dr. Warren.

WTFDYW: Nil Tu Aris: Such vitriol in this thread already. This is how the American public fell into this BS about Red versus Blue, conservative versus liberal. It used to be that we could all at least agree that the word "politician" was a pejorative. Now we're reduced to bashing some small business owner for wearing a t-shirt.

They all figure that if they suck Obamas dick long enough and hard enough that he will give them a cabinet post.

Again with the fellatio.

Nil Tu Aris: "The rest of us paid for," is not correct. The factory owner also paid his/her fair share for those same roads, for that same public education, for police, fire, etc. That business person also paid income tax, payroll tax, sales tax and a plethora of other taxes while they built the business up and after succeeding. The small business owner didn't fall out of the sky and suddenly succeed by taking advantage of something everyone else paid for. That person paid taxes their whole life up to that point and will continue to do so going forward. The real question is how much is the correct amount to pay. The point of that comment and President Obama's telling speech seems to be that the successful need to "share the wealth" or, in other words, pay MORE in taxes. Making that suggestion in a bad economy during an election year is not smart.

good God, THIS. Why is it that the left side of the aisle seems to think that small business owners don't ever (and apparently never have) pay any taxes? "Someone else paid for that" is bullshiat. The businessman PAID FOR IT, TOO. He doesn't exist in a vacuum.

DeaH: Death_Poot: Love the way you idiots are deriding this guy for not alienating half of his business for the next few weeks when it is his right to do so.

Would you say the same thing if he had turned Romney down? (cricket)

I would have done the same thing if it had been EITHER candidate.

You didn't read the article, did you? He didn't turn down the Obama campaign. He took the job, and then he wore a shirt that says he built his business without anyone's help (which is impossible). Yes, I would make fun of some asshat who took Romney money and then wore a shirt that said that rich people never gave him anything.

oops, I didnt, was thinking about another small business that turned down Joe Biden's request for a photo op that was in the news today. my bad

Death_Poot: Love the way you idiots are deriding this guy for not alienating half of his business for the next few weeks when it is his right to do so.

Would you say the same thing if he had turned Romney down? (cricket)

I would have done the same thing if it had been EITHER candidate.

Some guy in Virginia took a pass on having Biden come to his restaurant and made news for doing it. Biden went around the corner instead and that guy made money and got press. I don't think there is a wrong answer but that's making that choice is a liberty in this country that we do and should have. If the people in this thread are going to knock a guy for exercising his God given right to speak his mind based upon whether they agree with what he has to say, they are, ironically, eroding the liberty that they are enjoying by commenting.

"Not only is it extremely cruel to persecute in this brief life those who do not think the way we do, but I do not know if it might be too presumptuous to declare their eternal damnation." Or, if you prefer: "I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it."

It's not spaghetti, it's linguine.

stirfrybry: Barricaded Gunman: stirfrybry: Obama has nerve to tell taxpayers they didn't contribute.

Of course he said nothing of the kind, assclown. Watching you tards gleefully misinterpret his remarks for the last few weeks has been tiresome.

"You didn't build that" refered to the building of roads which are funded by tax payers.

I have it on good authority that roads were being built in the U.S. long before Obama walked them with his legions of community organizers.

I think we all agree that building roads is great idea, so lets keep the money for that sort of thing and slash the parts of the budget that aren't related to infrastructure.

Cupajo: a perhaps more artfully-said version of the same thing

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How would you like that to be inliam76: DeaH: I think it's great that he never had any small business loans, that none of his suppliers use tax-funded roads to deliver his supplies, that he doesn't use a federally insured bank to store his money or make financial transactions, and that he was privately educated. I bet he grows his own wheat and sugar cane, and he processes them, too. Hell, I bet he wasn't even delivered by a doctor or came out of his mom. He came into by a sheer force of will.

I think that about covers it.

So what's the point? He should now pay an ever higher tax rate because he obviously wasn't taxed enough up to this point if he actually succeeded, God forbid. And what about the taxes he paid all along the way? Our system should provide opportunities, not guarantee success under all circumstances.

The credible Dr. Warren forgets that everyone pays taxes when she claims "the rest of us paid for".

Animatronik: stirfrybry: Barricaded Gunman: stirfrybry: Obama has nerve to tell taxpayers they didn't contribute.

Of course he said nothing of the kind, assclown. Watching you tards gleefully misinterpret his remarks for the last few weeks has been tiresome.

"You didn't build that" refered to the building of roads which are funded by tax payers.

I have it on good authority that roads were being built in the U.S. long before Obama walked them with his legions of community organizers.

I think we all agree that building roads is great idea, so lets keep the money for that sort of thing and slash the parts of the budget that aren't related to infrastructure.

Who could argue against cutting pork spending?

Edward Rooney Dean of Students: Nil Tu Aris: "The rest of us paid for," is not correct. The factory owner also paid his/her fair share for those same roads, for that same public education, for police, fire, etc. That business person also paid income tax, payroll tax, sales tax and a plethora of other taxes while they built the business up and after succeeding. The small business owner didn't fall out of the sky and suddenly succeed by taking advantage of something everyone else paid for. That person paid taxes their whole life up to that point and will continue to do so going forward. The real question is how much is the correct amount to pay. The point of that comment and President Obama's telling speech seems to be that the successful need to "share the wealth" or, in other words, pay MORE in taxes. Making that suggestion in a bad economy during an election year is not smart.

good God, THIS. Why is it that the left side of the aisle seems to think that small business owners don't ever (and apparently never have) pay any taxes? "Someone else paid for that" is bullshiat. The businessman PAID FOR IT, TOO. He doesn't exist in a vacuum.

Not going to speak for anyone else, but for me the issue is with those people who get their goodies and then want to pull the ladder up begin them.

The point is not that you never paid taxes, it's that you should recognize the role that tax dollars played in your success and will play for the success of future entrepreneurs like you.

Though in Warren's case especially, she was clearly speaking about a much larger scale of industry-- those of the type that are able to rent-seek until they do in fact pay little or no taxes.

Keep in mind, that quote was first spoken back when we were finding out about GE's remarkable tax rates.

Edward Rooney Dean of Students: Nil Tu Aris: "The rest of us paid for," is not correct. The factory owner also paid his/her fair share for those same roads, for that same public education, for police, fire, etc. That business person also paid income tax, payroll tax, sales tax and a plethora of other taxes while they built the business up and after succeeding. The small business owner didn't fall out of the sky and suddenly succeed by taking advantage of something everyone else paid for. That person paid taxes their whole life up to that point and will continue to do so going forward. The real question is how much is the correct amount to pay. The point of that comment and President Obama's telling speech seems to be that the successful need to "share the wealth" or, in other words, pay MORE in taxes. Making that suggestion in a bad economy during an election year is not smart.

good God, THIS. Why is it that the left side of the aisle seems to think that small business owners don't ever (and apparently never have) pay any taxes? "Someone else paid for that" is bullshiat. The businessman PAID FOR IT, TOO. He doesn't exist in a vacuum.

Because no one thinks that? They think large business executives and those in the finance are under-paying. No one thinks the guy who owns the repair shop, or the sandwich shop, or the HVAC shop pays no taxes. They also note that the people who stand in the way of aide for small business owners are the Republicans. They also note that the much reviled Obamacare actually helps small business owners because they will be able to compete with larger corporations when it comes to benefits.

It's just that some of us are sick and tired of hearing that people think they owe nothing to anyone because they did every single thing by themselves. The system doesn't work that way. No one is saying you shouldn't be proud of your success. No one is saying that you should not succeed. What they are saying is that your success did not happen in a vacuum. Yes, you put in real effort, but you put in that effort in a society that helps you with things like roads, federally insured banks, special loan rates for people starting businesses, free education, and a myriad other services. And, when you are asked to contribute back to the the very system that helped you succeed (note that NO ONE is saying succeeded for you), you act like a spoiled and ungrateful teenager.