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2012-08-16 07:26:40 AM
Is this the official morning "hate the rich" thread?

Envy is such an ugly thing.
 
2012-08-16 07:27:56 AM
Goddammit, I hate when derp is the Weeners. Ruins the tone for everyone.
 
2012-08-16 07:34:08 AM

omnibus_necanda_sunt: Goddammit, I hate when derp is the Weeners. Ruins the tone for everyone.


I think you just got it back on track.
 
2012-08-16 07:36:43 AM
Weener Weener suck my peener wheee!!!!
 
2012-08-16 07:38:48 AM

omnibus_necanda_sunt: Goddammit, I hate when derp is the Weeners. Ruins the tone for everyone.


Sorry man, didn't mean to ruin your party. Maybe we can get this back on track. I'll start.

"You didn't build that".

Does that help?
 
2012-08-16 07:39:28 AM

BillCo: Is this the official morning "hate the rich" thread?

Envy is such an ugly thing.


You changed your name to Envy?
 
2012-08-16 07:40:10 AM
img6.imageshack.us
 
2012-08-16 07:40:11 AM
This surprises no one at all.
 
2012-08-16 07:41:05 AM

BillCo: Is this the official morning "hate the rich" thread?

Envy is such an ugly thing.


I think this "Your just totes jealous" approach is a winner. I reccomend running with it.
 
2012-08-16 07:42:05 AM
Shocking.

i595.photobucket.com
 
2012-08-16 07:42:06 AM
Discovery CEO among the top executive bonuses, huh? Must be nice to get paid big bucks while replacing actual history with Pawn Stars and Ancient Aliens.
 
2012-08-16 07:42:51 AM
EAT THE RICH
 
2012-08-16 07:42:58 AM

ariseatex: Discovery CEO among the top executive bonuses, huh? Must be nice to get paid big bucks while replacing actual history with Pawn Stars and Ancient Aliens.


Crap sells.
 
2012-08-16 07:44:59 AM

Snapper Carr: ariseatex: Discovery CEO among the top executive bonuses, huh? Must be nice to get paid big bucks while replacing actual history with Pawn Stars and Ancient Aliens.

Crap sells.


But who's buying?
 
2012-08-16 07:45:07 AM

BillCo: Is this the official morning "hate the rich" thread?

Envy is such an ugly thing.


These buttsniffers even defend their masters when they're getting their tax money robbed by them.

I thought MAH TAX DOLLERS were the most important things in the world?
 
2012-08-16 07:48:20 AM
Think of the small business owner in Luxembourg, or Switzerland or even the Cayman Islands. They depend on bank loans and lines of credit. If we don't give our CEOs tax breaks, they won't place their savings offshore and the banks and the businesses the banks serve will suffer.
 
2012-08-16 07:51:14 AM

foo monkey: Snapper Carr: ariseatex: Discovery CEO among the top executive bonuses, huh? Must be nice to get paid big bucks while replacing actual history with Pawn Stars and Ancient Aliens.

Crap sells.

But who's buying?


In general, the same people who think they are "job creators" who will benefit from more tax cuts. The same people who think people making $9/hour need to put skin in the game. The same people who want you to keep your gubbmint hands off their medicare.
 
2012-08-16 07:54:07 AM

foo monkey: Snapper Carr: ariseatex: Discovery CEO among the top executive bonuses, huh? Must be nice to get paid big bucks while replacing actual history with Pawn Stars and Ancient Aliens.

Crap sells.

But who's buying?


My neighbors

/God I hate living in Texas
 
2012-08-16 07:55:41 AM
The Institute for Policy Studies, a self-described "progressive multi-issue think tank," analyzed the link between tax loopholes and excessive executive compensation and concluded that the loopholes created an "uneven playing field" between large companies and small businesses and led to lost tax revenue.

Next, a group self-described as a "conservative multi-issue think tank" will conduct a study that supports something conservatives want to believe and desperately want legislation to change and it will be completely legitimately too.

I'm SHOCKED that a political motivated group would come to precisely the type of conclusions they would want after conducting a "study".
 
2012-08-16 07:55:53 AM
I'm getting really derpy about the stock market these days. So I'm gonna put this in, instead of derping about the stock market...

If the companies weren't transnational, they wouldn't feel the need to compete with operations in other countries. Because that's what the "taxcuts!" is about. It's about trying to make it as cheap for businesses to run here as they are in China. No measure or consideration is given for reliability, educated workers, etc etc - it's just a race to the bottom. There's three options: take the Republican race to the bottom, take the Democrat pride in the nation and engineering (make people want to buy American), or tell China to quit undervaluing the yuan.

Nobody has the balls for the latter, so... Who are the real patriots?
 
2012-08-16 07:59:05 AM
The Institute for Policy Studies, a self-described "progressive multi-issue think tank," analyzed the link between tax loopholes and excessive executive compensation and concluded that the loopholes created an "uneven playing field" between large companies and small businesses and led to lost tax revenue.

Duh! You think? Romney is the poster boy for that. The only tax return he will show even part of demonstrates that. I pay a higher percentage than he does. and chances are you do too. And that's just the one return he will show. You know that there are years that he's paid nothing.
 
2012-08-16 08:01:16 AM

starsrift: I'm getting really derpy about the stock market these days. So I'm gonna put this in, instead of derping about the stock market...

If the companies weren't transnational, they wouldn't feel the need to compete with operations in other countries. Because that's what the "taxcuts!" is about. It's about trying to make it as cheap for businesses to run here as they are in China. No measure or consideration is given for reliability, educated workers, etc etc - it's just a race to the bottom. There's three options: take the Republican race to the bottom, take the Democrat pride in the nation and engineering (make people want to buy American), or tell China to quit undervaluing the yuan.

Nobody has the balls for the latter, so... Who are the real patriots?


Uh, the Chinese?

Whar coffee!?!! WHAR!!
 
2012-08-16 08:01:44 AM

randomjsa: The Institute for Policy Studies, a self-described "progressive multi-issue think tank," analyzed the link between tax loopholes and excessive executive compensation and concluded that the loopholes created an "uneven playing field" between large companies and small businesses and led to lost tax revenue.

Next, a group self-described as a "conservative multi-issue think tank" will conduct a study that supports something conservatives want to believe and desperately want legislation to change and it will be completely legitimately too.

I'm SHOCKED that a political motivated group would come to precisely the type of conclusions they would want after conducting a "study".


so do you think that a small business can get their shiat subsidized and tax code written for them like a large corporation with an army of lobbyists on the hill?
 
2012-08-16 08:07:49 AM
So true.

I shall now vote for those who are mega rich and want to increase my taxes while lowering theirs to show remorse for my envy.
 
2012-08-16 08:09:21 AM

BillCo: Is this the official morning "hate the rich" thread?

Envy is such an ugly thing.


Jamie Dimon still isn't going to sleep with you.
 
2012-08-16 08:11:12 AM

BillCo: Is this the official morning "hate the rich" thread?

Envy is such an ugly thing.


I know, right? The rich are so super-special that we all should give up part of our salary, all of our benefits, and pay more taxes just to make them richer. Sure, it's a sacrifice, but for the preservation and improvement of something as special as the super rich, the rest of us should cut back and dig deeper into our pocket books.
 
2012-08-16 08:21:13 AM

BillCo: Is this the official morning "hate the rich" thread?

Envy is such an ugly thing.


Cool. So now even pointing out how the tax code benefits certain people is envy.
 
2012-08-16 08:25:02 AM

omnibus_necanda_sunt: Goddammit, I hate when derp is the Weeners. Ruins the tone for everyone.


Its all it does. Waits for a new thread, shiats and runs like a coward. Its best to ignore it.
 
2012-08-16 08:26:03 AM
How about we close those tax loopholes?

Everyone cool with that?
 
kab
2012-08-16 08:27:28 AM
You godamn plebs will never learn your place. Top execs actually fabricate their own pay out of thin air, due to their sheer awesomeness, and aren't to be ever questioned.

If they were expected to pay the same sort of taxes as the rest of you, the earth would simply stop rotating, and all would perish. So try to be a bit thankful next time you act so hatefully towards your superiors.
 
2012-08-16 08:32:12 AM

BillCo: Is this the official morning "hate the rich" thread?

Envy is such an ugly thing.


We'll see you in the next Welfare thread, where you envy the poor.
 
2012-08-16 08:40:18 AM

randomjsa: The Institute for Policy Studies, a self-described "progressive multi-issue think tank," analyzed the link between tax loopholes and excessive executive compensation and concluded that the loopholes created an "uneven playing field" between large companies and small businesses and led to lost tax revenue.

Next, a group self-described as a "conservative multi-issue think tank" will conduct a study that supports something conservatives want to believe and desperately want legislation to change and it will be completely legitimately too.

I'm SHOCKED that a political motivated group would come to precisely the type of conclusions they would want after conducting a "study".


At least they're honest about their slant.
 
2012-08-16 08:44:49 AM

BillCo: Is this the official morning "hate the rich" thread?

Envy is such an ugly thing.



Absolutely, man
 
2012-08-16 08:46:56 AM
CEO pay has skyrocketed 300% since 1990. Corporate profits have doubled. Average "production worker" pay has increased 4%. The minimum wage has dropped. (All numbers adjusted for inflation).

static4.businessinsider.com

After adjusting for inflation, average hourly earnings haven't increased in 50 years.

static2.businessinsider.com

Link
 
2012-08-16 08:48:14 AM
1) rich people get more rich by getting more money for no reason

2) the money "trickles down"

3) jobs are magically created out of thin air, regardless of demand or consumer financial strength

This is the farking fairy tale they still keep trying to get us to believe for 30 years, now.
 
2012-08-16 08:49:51 AM

foo monkey: Snapper Carr: ariseatex: Discovery CEO among the top executive bonuses, huh? Must be nice to get paid big bucks while replacing actual history with Pawn Stars and Ancient Aliens.

Crap sells.

But who's buying?


If there's a new toilet
I'll be the first in line
But, it better work this time
 
2012-08-16 08:52:47 AM

randomjsa: I'm SHOCKED that a political motivated group would come to precisely the type of conclusions they would want after conducting a "study".


Yeah, but the facts stated later in the article have nothing to do with the think tank. Everything mentioned, particularly the method of avoiding taxation by using performance-based pay, is reality.

And since this is from a reasonable 9if not great) media outlet, it even includes at least one quote from a right-leaning think tank to counter the findings, in addition to telling you that the study was conducted by a group with known propensities. Good luck finding that in a Fox article.
 
2012-08-16 08:54:21 AM
tax cuts for the job creators aka trickle down/voodoo/supply side economics doesn't work.

the super rich do not use the money to create jobs in the US. They sock it away in offshore tax havens and build factories in "free trade" third world dirt holes where they can pay pennies a day for workers who have zero rights and dump waste with little concern for the environment.

We lose both jobs and tax revenue.
The only people who benefit are the super rich and the politicians who get giant bribes campaign contributions from the super rich as payment to continue with this trickle down BS.


tax cut to the middle/lower income Americans puts money back into the market. They're not hiding the money from the IRS or employing Vietnamese children with it, they're paying their mortgage, buying a car, buying produce right here in America.

Trickle down econ. is bad for America.
 
2012-08-16 08:55:56 AM
What every Real American needs to ask themselves every day is not "What can I do for my country and community today?" but "What can I do for the wealthy today".

Ask yourself, are you making the needs of the wealthy a high enough priority in your life? Are you sacrificing enough for them? Is your loyalty and devotion to them as fervent as it should be?

Are you teaching your children the proper attitudes of obedience and reverence for their betters? Do your children know their place, and happily except it?

We all look forward to the day when the Romney/Ryan Administration begins to focus the powers of the government fully on the only priority this country and it's people legitimately have: the well being of those with the greatest wealth.
 
2012-08-16 08:57:28 AM
I love watching GOP shills verbally felate and white-knight the uber-rich.

/useful idiots are useful
 
2012-08-16 08:57:39 AM

amiable: BillCo: Is this the official morning "hate the rich" thread?

Envy is such an ugly thing.

I think this "Your just totes jealous" approach is a winner. I reccomend running with it.


If it's envy at least teh libs envy billionaires, it appears conservatives envy people on welfare... shoot for the stars!
 
2012-08-16 08:57:58 AM

dickfreckle: And since this is from a reasonable 9if not great) media outlet, it even includes at least one quote from a right-leaning think tank to counter the findings, in addition to telling you that the study was conducted by a group with known propensities. Good luck finding that in a Fox article.


Oh, baloney! Fox would have made damned sure to point out that the evil, anti-American atheist commie groups were well pointed out and identified. The others need no such identification. Because they're true Americans!
 
2012-08-16 08:57:59 AM
There area few phrases that make be angry.

1. "Job Creators"
2. "Skin in the game"
3. "Socialism" (as used in the context of your average moron right winger)
4. Tea Party

When I see these, I make fun of the person originating it because generally they're serious. I tell them they should stop listening to propaganda as produced by Fox and Rush "I like Dominican Rent Boys" Limbaugh. Propaganda distorts the issues and makes the parroting party look like a douchebag.
 
2012-08-16 08:59:50 AM

dickfreckle: randomjsa: I'm SHOCKED that a political motivated group would come to precisely the type of conclusions they would want after conducting a "study".

Yeah, but the facts stated later in the article have nothing to do with the think tank. Everything mentioned, particularly the method of avoiding taxation by using performance-based pay, is reality.

And since this is from a reasonable 9if not great) media outlet, it even includes at least one quote from a right-leaning think tank to counter the findings, in addition to telling you that the study was conducted by a group with known propensities. Good luck finding that in a Fox article.


he wants everyone to believe the playing field is level and that Joe the mechanic can open a garage and get the red carpet rolled out for him by the local politicos. they'll give him the property,a taxpayer backed loan,defer his taxes,build him roads and provide utility access for no charge. then he will be allowed to pay himself a salary and claim it as capital gains. All without risking his own money.
 
2012-08-16 09:00:07 AM
Why are Republicans so into tax cuts and budget cuts, rather than trying to build a government that runs on less money? They just slash everything and hope it works out in the end.
 
2012-08-16 09:02:36 AM

Philip Francis Queeg: What every Real American needs to ask themselves every day is not "What can I do for my country and community today?" but "What can I do for the wealthy today".


On a daily basis, I ask myself if the actions I take will make the lives of those around me better, and if they will help me get more money. Because I care about the people around me, and I want to be wealthy someday. Because I get a good feeling when I help people and I am appreciated, and being wealthy looks like it really kicks ass and I hate being poor. (Tried it, don't like it. Frak it.)

Greed is a big motivator for some, pride and dignity motivates me.
 
2012-08-16 09:03:26 AM

Philip Francis Queeg: What every Real American needs to ask themselves every day is not "What can I do for my country and community today?" but "What can I do for the wealthy today".


I don't see a distinction between those two questions.
 
2012-08-16 09:04:42 AM

MayoSlather: Philip Francis Queeg: What every Real American needs to ask themselves every day is not "What can I do for my country and community today?" but "What can I do for the wealthy today".

I don't see a distinction between those two questions.


and therein lies the problem
 
2012-08-16 09:08:38 AM
 
2012-08-16 09:09:46 AM
While the wealthy and big corporations are surely unfairly benefiting from their ownership of the American political establishment, it behooves me to point out that a study entitled "The Annual Executive Excess Compensation Study" will find that executive pay is excessive and unfair and onerous to the non-wealthy no matter what the actual data may say, given that the study begins with the assumption that executive pay is excessive. As such, the study itself is not a study but rather a conclusion in search of supporting data. What's next, The Annual Barack Obama Is A Poopy-Head Study that will show that Barack Obama is, in fact, a poopy-head?
 
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