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(Daily Mail)   "It has been claimed" that Anonymous hackers are preparing to hijack Curiosity   (dailymail.co.uk) divider line 102
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2012-08-15 11:09:12 PM
Yeah, that's great. How about getting Romney's Tax returns?
 
2012-08-15 11:56:42 PM
Sounds legit.
 
2012-08-16 12:00:04 AM

alaric3: Romney's Tax returns


THIS!
 
2012-08-16 12:07:06 AM

markie_farkie: alaric3: Romney's Tax returns

THIS!


I came here to say this!
 
2012-08-16 12:15:10 AM
FTFA: A New York security firm claims to have spotted a message on an Internet Relay Chat (IRC) asking for hep to hack into the signals Nasa uses to communicate with the Curiosity rover.

Is NASA hep to this? This seems unlikely no matter how much hep they get.
 
2012-08-16 12:35:46 AM

This About That: FTFA: A New York security firm claims to have spotted a message on an Internet Relay Chat (IRC) asking for hep to hack into the signals Nasa uses to communicate with the Curiosity rover.

Is NASA hep to this? This seems unlikely no matter how much hep they get.


ZOMG! Someone said something on IRC!111!1 IT MUST BE TRUE!!!11eleven!
 
2012-08-16 12:40:02 AM
Bastages better not.
 
2012-08-16 12:42:56 AM
Men of Earth, we of the planet Mars give you this warning. Listen carefully and remember: We have known your planet Earth since the first creature crawled out of the primeval slime of your seas to become man...
www.badmovies.org
Carry the warning to Earth - "Do not come here." We can and will destroy you - ALL life on your planet - if you do not heed us. You have seen us, been permitted to glimpse our world. Go now. Warn mankind not to return unbidden.

/We are Anonymous
 
2012-08-16 01:00:58 AM
Logistically even if they could spoof the signal and figured out the commands, is this even possible? Its not like you can go radioshack and buy a transmitter that will make it to mars. What type of setup would you really need to do this?

I would think given the cost/risk of this mission commands would be encrypted and signed too but that doesn't mean they are.
 
2012-08-16 01:05:47 AM
Also this sounds like bs. If it was legit I doubt someone would be posting on irc so blatantly about it. They would probably already have contacts in the region to do this, or would know people who do. If they absolutely didn't they would probably just say something like 'hey who is around spain I have a cool idea, msg me'.

Not to mention it would be dumb as hell. You think they caught shiat over some of their other hacks, holy hell can you imagine the law enforcement resources that would be put against them if they farked up a rover? Plus public opinion would be insanely harsh on them. Anonymous hackers seem like they have 0 loyalty to each other anyways, I bet a lot of them would be pretty pissed and would turn in the people responsible.
 
2012-08-16 01:13:54 AM

alaric3: Yeah, that's great. How about getting Romney's Tax returns?


THIS is a lot more worthwhile than hacking a farking rover. And that's why I do not like Anonymous.

/although the takedown of WBC's site while they were talking to one of the Phelps offspring was epic
 
2012-08-16 01:16:29 AM
As I understand it, most of the commands/returns from Mars go through the DSN....So....You'd basically have to either have the ability to reproduce the functionality of it, or hack into their transmitters/receivers.......Not so much the rover......-1 reporter.....
 
2012-08-16 01:51:58 AM
It's not a remote control dune-buggy.

They'd have to find a way to broadcast their signal to mars, make sure Curiosity understood, install all new control software, etc...

Someone's high.
 
2012-08-16 04:05:44 AM
Well, unless they grabbed control of the actual ground station, I don't think Anonymous is going to be able to afford a 200 foot wide dish with a few megawatts of power with their allowance, and I don't think they could hide it for long in their parents backyard.
 
2012-08-16 04:33:02 AM
It has been claimed that Anonymous is going to blow the moon up with My Little Pony farts. Does that mean it's going to happen? Of course not. But "it has been claimed!"
 
2012-08-16 04:43:49 AM
And, lets just say that they are able to do this - what benefit does it have to anyone?
 
2012-08-16 04:44:52 AM
CliChe Guevara: Well, unless they grabbed control of the actual ground station, I don't think Anonymous is going to be able to afford a 200 foot wide dish with a few megawatts of power with their allowance, and I don't think they could hide it for long in their parents backyard.

Well, that and I'm pretty sure that pissing off the United States Government in such a massive way wouldn't be conducive to their continued existence.

Do you know what we did to Iraq for being a troll?
 
2012-08-16 04:45:24 AM
This is just Flashpoint Partners trying to get publicity and clients.

FTFA: "Flashpoint Partners included the message in an alert it sent out to its clients later that day."

Why would their clients need to be alerted about a supposed NASA hack?
 
2012-08-16 05:03:33 AM
NASA was prepared for this possibility. That's why they didn't paint the rover yellow.

i333.photobucket.com
 
2012-08-16 05:04:29 AM

CliChe Guevara: Well, unless they grabbed control of the actual ground station, I don't think Anonymous is going to be able to afford a 200 foot wide dish with a few megawatts of power with their allowance, and I don't think they could hide it for long in their parents backyard.


yeah this here
 
2012-08-16 05:19:43 AM
i'm with the 'yeah i don't see this being at all feasible for anon' crowd.


unless of course nasa has the control console for the rover hooked to their intranet which is in turn connected to the web.


then yeah, maybe. but pretty unlikely. extremely unlikely they'd get away with it for long.
 
2012-08-16 05:25:41 AM

TV's Vinnie: NASA was prepared for this possibility. That's why they didn't paint the rover yellow.

[i333.photobucket.com image 750x600]


They only used steroids back then. Imagine what they're using now. Curiosity is well within reach.
 
2012-08-16 05:26:03 AM
No one would have believed in the first years of the twenty-first century that this irc channel was being watched keenly and closely by intelligences greater than anonymous' and yet as mortal as their own; that as script kiddies busied themselves about their various concerns they were scrutinised and studied, perhaps almost as narrowly as a man with a microscope might scrutinise the transient creatures that swarm and multiply in a drop of water.
 
2012-08-16 05:44:54 AM
So all these pathetic attention whores need to do to get their attention now is start a RUMOR that they are going to do something that they have zero ability to do?

They launch DOS attacks... WOOOOOO! welcome to 1995, kiddies! Real impressive. The reason they dont go get romneys returns is because they CANT. That would be hard, and might interrupt their pot party.

If they DID hijack the rover, the world as a whole would turn on them... not that it already hasnt.
 
2012-08-16 05:51:08 AM
I am going to laugh when anonymous successfully hijacks Curiosity and drives it into your stupid FACE!

/suck it, haters
 
2012-08-16 06:01:30 AM

SevenizGud: I am going to laugh when anonymous successfully hijacks Curiosity and drives it into your stupid FACE!

/suck it, haters


I will be the first to admit im wrong. I have been wrong before. im sure its within the realm of possibility....
 
2012-08-16 06:01:47 AM

alaric3: Yeah, that's great. How about getting Romney's Tax returns?


There's a greater chance they could get his tax returns than there is they'd want to fark with something who's twitter feed seems to give them a continuous orgasm.
 
2012-08-16 06:06:25 AM
Yeah, and I'm prepared to hijack the ten hottest women in Hollywood but it's just about as unlikely to actually happen as Anonymous taking over Curiousity.
 
2012-08-16 06:07:33 AM
Yeah, go ahead, do that.

And watch as we spend the next 20 years trying to get the internet back from the FCC and the RIAA becomes the moderate voice of internet regulation.
 
2012-08-16 06:18:08 AM
img338.imageshack.us
 
2012-08-16 06:36:18 AM

markie_farkie: alaric3: Romney's Tax returns

THIS!


Absolutely not. Why? Because here's what will happen:

1. Anonymous manages to snag Romney's actual tax returns for the last decade or so.
2. Anonymous publishes the tax returns.
3. Serious discrepancies are found.
4. Romney claims they're fake, a Democrat-driven smear tactic, and refuses to release the "real ones" because there's an obvious security issue in the Obama administration.
5. Romney's backers spend a small fortune using the "fake ones" to counter any criticism of Romney's tax history, ultimately making Romney's tax returns useless as a political tool either way.

Doing so would undermine the Obama campaign's strategy - the longer Romney hides the damned things, the more he admits it would be a political death sentence to release them, the more it benefits Obama.
 
2012-08-16 06:48:35 AM
Even if they can, they shouldn't.
 
2012-08-16 06:54:12 AM
Oh for petes sake. Anon tards could no more hack that rover than I could fly out my window in a bat costume.
 
2012-08-16 07:04:08 AM
Its been theorized that whoever attempted such a feat would probably spend the next twenty years of their life enjoying PMITA prison while being vilified by the media and their peers as a talent-less basement dwelling furry who fapped to "My Little Pony".

/I doubt NASA has much security on the thing, so a Hacker probably could damage it.
/But not without a big enough array to reach it.
/Trying to mess with one of those will probably get you a house call from the feds.
 
2012-08-16 07:06:39 AM
The author apparently reads Slashdot

http://science.slashdot.org/story/12/08/13/1851249/could-you-hack-in to -mars-curiosity-rover

And it was thought experiment. Not a call to arms.
 
Xai
2012-08-16 07:08:08 AM
Unless they can DDoS a mars rover, i doubt it.
 
2012-08-16 07:11:20 AM

buttery_shame_cave: unless of course nasa has the control console for the rover hooked to their intranet which is in turn connected to the web.


Which isn't likely, because there's no reason to. The same org (JPL) will be on Curiosity for as long as it's alive, and while I admit I'm extrapolating from the clip of the landing, AFAIK they work on-site. Web-enabling the interface would be a bunch of added cost and mission delays when NASA's already under Congress' knife. There's a near-certain chance Curiosity's command center isn't physically connected. The only way to hijack Curiosity is to physically raid JPL.

Kind of hard to do your little Layer-7 kiddie scripts when the Layer 1 connection isn't even there. You might as well try to hack a coffee table.
 
2012-08-16 07:26:44 AM
The Daily Mail, that bastion of journalistic integrity, cites an unnamed "New York security firm" that says somebody asked for information on the Curiosity feed. Therefore Anonymous.

If I were cynical I'd think that the rightwing UK press was looking for ways to discredit Anonymous. Hm now what is happening right now to make them want to do that.
 
2012-08-16 07:31:51 AM
Well, it is theoretically possible but your first step would be hijacking a transceiver that is big enough. Those things aren't plugged into the internet so we are talking a literal hijacking. As in you would have to show up in person and take over the control room.

Somehow I am not worried.
 
2012-08-16 07:34:59 AM

p4p3rm4t3: [img338.imageshack.us image 400x525]


Appeasrs?
 
2012-08-16 07:36:30 AM

dragonchild: You might as well try to hack a coffee table.


Microsoft's got you covered.

www.kuanhoong.com
 
2012-08-16 07:38:25 AM
Not likely. They always seemed like the kind of entity that would be greatful the government is spending money on sciency stuff. I seriously doubt they'd interfere while it was kept on the level.
 
2012-08-16 07:41:07 AM
Someone took control of satellites via a ground station in Norway once I think. But it sure as shiat wasn't anonymous.
 
2012-08-16 07:43:12 AM
NOPE. Anonymous wouldn't, even if they could.

They have no beef with NASA.
 
2012-08-16 07:46:49 AM

towatchoverme: NOPE. Anonymous wouldn't, even if they could.

They have no beef with NASA.


Did they have a beef with magnets.com when they ruined their website?
 
2012-08-16 07:48:46 AM

untaken_name: Microsoft's got you covered.


NOOOOOOOOOO
 
2012-08-16 07:53:00 AM

galactus5000: And, lets just say that they are able to do this - what benefit does it have to anyone?


For the lulz.
 
2012-08-16 08:06:11 AM

HotWingConspiracy: towatchoverme: NOPE. Anonymous wouldn't, even if they could.

They have no beef with NASA.

Did they have a beef with magnets.com when they ruined their website?


They were just trying to figure out how they worked.
 
2012-08-16 08:17:16 AM

dragonchild: Kind of hard to do your little Layer-7 kiddie scripts when the Layer 1 connection isn't even there. You might as well try to hack a coffee table.


i2.listal.com
 
2012-08-16 08:48:50 AM

SevenizGud: I am going to laugh when anonymous successfully hijacks Curiosity and drives it into your stupid FACE!

/suck it, haters


I really hope they do. I'll start taking bets as to how long they'll manage to evade prison time.
 
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