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(BBC)   UK to Ecuadoran embassy: "Either hand over Julian Assange or we'll go in there and get him ourselves." Ecuador: "Uhm, we are not a British colony." UK: "WHARRGARBL"   (bbc.co.uk) divider line 456
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2012-08-15 08:00:08 PM  
Someone needs to take this guy out. He is a threat to international security.
 
2012-08-15 08:10:09 PM  
Goddammit, England! Have a spy poison his food or something, but do NOT storm a foreign embassy! That's how wars get started!
>:-(
 
2012-08-15 08:11:06 PM  
Looks like they've been taking lessons in diplomacy from the United States.
 
2012-08-15 08:27:46 PM  
freeversephotography.com
 
2012-08-15 08:28:23 PM  
Ugh.
 
2012-08-15 08:29:28 PM  

Captain Steroid: Goddammit, England! Have a spy poison his food or something, but do NOT storm a foreign embassy! That's how wars get started!
>:-(


www.historyguy.com


Depends on who is in charge
 
2012-08-15 08:30:18 PM  
UK is full of talk

They wont risk the international punishments
 
2012-08-15 08:38:42 PM  

FlyingLizardOfDoom: Someone needs to take this guy out. He is a threat to international security.


What exactly has he done to justify summary execution?
 
2012-08-15 08:46:46 PM  
Argentina whistles nonchalantly...
 
2012-08-15 08:53:27 PM  
Seriously, what the fark Brits? You're not Iran.
 
2012-08-15 09:01:27 PM  

gilgigamesh: FlyingLizardOfDoom: Someone needs to take this guy out. He is a threat to international security.

What exactly has he done to justify summary execution?


Reasons.
 
2012-08-15 09:03:02 PM  
Livestream in front of the Embassy

http://bambuser.com/v/2905136

(busted at the moment)

RT.com streaming

(they have frequent updates)
 
2012-08-15 09:03:04 PM  
Wow, he really, really scares the power brokers that much, huh.
 
2012-08-15 09:03:48 PM  
HE'S HIDING ON THE GALAPAGOS WITH THE TORTOISES, GET HIM!
 
2012-08-15 09:05:21 PM  
The Brits sure do take alleged sexual assault mega-seriously...
 
2012-08-15 09:06:54 PM  

iaazathot: Wow, he really, really scares the power brokers that much, huh.


That's how I'm looking at it.

But isn't he just a figure head for wikileaks, now? They are still active, aren't they?
 
2012-08-15 09:08:29 PM  
Until he went to the Embassy, he hosted an interesting interview show while under house arrest:

Link

The one with the Ecuadorian president was interesting.
 
2012-08-15 09:08:40 PM  
Yeah, good luck getting him out of the country, Ecuador.

How exactly are you going to get him out of the country without him stepping on UK soil?

The sole option is for him to drive out of the embassy in a diplomatic car, and drive onto a back loaded freight plane at a Ecuadorian private landing strip.

Ecuador has none of those things in the UK.

He'll be arrested during transit, because there's not way for him to reach Ecuador without leaving Ecuadorian sovereignty.
 
2012-08-15 09:09:54 PM  

cman: They wont risk the international punishments


What international punishments?
The US from 2000-2008 (and the Obama administration's lack of action past that) has pretty much shown you can flaunt international law and do whatever the fark you want if you're the right people. I assumed the UK was somewhere near the top of that hierarchy.
 
2012-08-15 09:11:05 PM  

Bungles: Yeah, good luck getting him out of the country, Ecuador.

How exactly are you going to get him out of the country without him stepping on UK soil?

The sole option is for him to drive out of the embassy in a diplomatic car, and drive onto a back loaded freight plane at a Ecuadorian private landing strip.

Ecuador has none of those things in the UK.

He'll be arrested during transit, because there's not way for him to reach Ecuador without leaving Ecuadorian sovereignty.


Ecuadorian military or diplomatic helicopter to a waiting ship off the coast.
 
2012-08-15 09:11:15 PM  

Nadie_AZ: iaazathot: Wow, he really, really scares the power brokers that much, huh.

That's how I'm looking at it.

But isn't he just a figure head for wikileaks, now? They are still active, aren't they?


I'd find the dude more likable if he'd at least acknowledge that there's a shiatload of very powerful people invested in making him look bad and took steps not to look like a douche by getting laid from internet celebrity of all things.
 
2012-08-15 09:12:14 PM  

m2313: has pretty much shown you can flaunt flout international law and do whatever the fark you want if you're the right people


/pet peeve
 
2012-08-15 09:13:38 PM  
So the SAS pops in and takes Assange for turning over to the USA.

What will Ecuador do?
Declare indignation in a strongly worded letter?
 
2012-08-15 09:14:43 PM  
Wow Britain is willing to risk and international incident bring a man to justice on shaky "non-violent rape" charges?
 
2012-08-15 09:15:23 PM  
From the wikileaks twitter feed, multiple police vans have arrived at the embassy and all of the livestreams are being DOS'd.
 
2012-08-15 09:15:23 PM  

HotIgneous Intruder: So the SAS pops in and takes Assange for turning over to the USA.

What will Ecuador do?
Declare indignation in a strongly worded letter?


Throw bananas at them.

/I know 3 things about Ecuador
 
2012-08-15 09:15:24 PM  

cameroncrazy1984: Ecuadorian military or diplomatic helicopter to a waiting ship off the coast.


You think Ecuador has these kinds of assets? They might have them in the Pacific, but not sitting off the coast of England.
 
2012-08-15 09:15:50 PM  

cameroncrazy1984: Bungles: Yeah, good luck getting him out of the country, Ecuador.

How exactly are you going to get him out of the country without him stepping on UK soil?

The sole option is for him to drive out of the embassy in a diplomatic car, and drive onto a back loaded freight plane at a Ecuadorian private landing strip.

Ecuador has none of those things in the UK.

He'll be arrested during transit, because there's not way for him to reach Ecuador without leaving Ecuadorian sovereignty.

Ecuadorian military or diplomatic helicopter to a waiting ship off the coast.



From where? They don't have a helipad, and they can't exactly hover a tactical military helicopter over central London without quite quickly becoming "the bad guys".

I also suspect that they don't have a ship with a helipad either (they're not exactly common, outside the major powers and Jame Bond films).
 
2012-08-15 09:17:20 PM  
Just listening to everyone spout off ideas about diplomatic immunity, special forces commando raids, international laws and repercussions has finally convinced me that this is all definitely only about sexual misconduct in Sweden.

Right.
 
2012-08-15 09:17:52 PM  
/The US and A! wants Assange because he's the foreign national who received Bradley Manning's classified documents.
 
2012-08-15 09:18:33 PM  

BafflerMeal: From the wikileaks twitter feed, multiple police vans have arrived at the embassy and all of the livestreams are being DOS'd.



I don't think it's much to do with that at this point, more that Britain doesn't take too kindly to ignoring its rule of law and hiding in embassies, thumbing your nose for two months out the window.

Especially given he should, you know, have gone to the Australian embassy. Then the situation would be different.
 
2012-08-15 09:19:57 PM  

Bungles: cameroncrazy1984: Bungles: Yeah, good luck getting him out of the country, Ecuador.

How exactly are you going to get him out of the country without him stepping on UK soil?

The sole option is for him to drive out of the embassy in a diplomatic car, and drive onto a back loaded freight plane at a Ecuadorian private landing strip.

Ecuador has none of those things in the UK.

He'll be arrested during transit, because there's not way for him to reach Ecuador without leaving Ecuadorian sovereignty.

Ecuadorian military or diplomatic helicopter to a waiting ship off the coast.


From where? They don't have a helipad, and they can't exactly hover a tactical military helicopter over central London without quite quickly becoming "the bad guys".

I also suspect that they don't have a ship with a helipad either (they're not exactly common, outside the major powers and Jame Bond films).


I don't think storming an embassy is a good idea here, but I can't see a way where this ends good for Assange. Only scenarios that don't embarrass the UK and ones that do.

Here's hoping that they ineptly embarrass themselves.
 
2012-08-15 09:20:27 PM  

HotIgneous Intruder: /The US and A! wants Assange because he's the foreign national who received Bradley Manning's classified documents.


Oh who gives a crap about the Broncos playbook?

Oh, Bradley. Nevermind.
 
2012-08-15 09:20:44 PM  

Car_Ramrod: HotIgneous Intruder: So the SAS pops in and takes Assange for turning over to the USA.

What will Ecuador do?
Declare indignation in a strongly worded letter?

Throw bananas at them.

/I know 3 things about Ecuador


Perhaps Ecuador would demand shrubberies.
Or herrings.
 
2012-08-15 09:22:25 PM  

Esc7: I don't think storming an embassy is a good idea here, but I can't see a way where this ends good for Assange. Only scenarios that don't embarrass the UK and ones that do.

Here's hoping that they ineptly embarrass themselves.


images.wikia.com

The Ecuadorian Embassy is secretly a Mobile Oppression Palace!
 
2012-08-15 09:23:21 PM  

Bungles: Especially given he should, you know, have gone to the Australian embassy. Then the situation would be different.


Yeah. He would be turned over to the US nearly instantly.
 
2012-08-15 09:27:44 PM  

HotIgneous Intruder: Bungles: Especially given he should, you know, have gone to the Australian embassy. Then the situation would be different.

Yeah. He would be turned over to the US nearly instantly.



No he wouldn't.

He'd have been turned over to the Swedish, after a prolonged extradition (just like happened in the UK)

Then possibly the US. Sweden's fault!
 
2012-08-15 09:28:38 PM  

FlyingLizardOfDoom: Someone needs to take this guy out. He is a threat to international security.


And this is why the current batch of humans deserve a goddamn extinction level event to their shiatty society. farking programmable automata.
 
2012-08-15 09:29:28 PM  

HotIgneous Intruder: Bungles: Especially given he should, you know, have gone to the Australian embassy. Then the situation would be different.

Yeah. He would be turned over to the US nearly instantly.


Truth. The USA exerts a gravitational field over nearly all english speaking/ NATO countries.

Seriously it is looking like Assange is going to have live the rest of his days out in unfriendly banana republics or the bad boys club(totalitarian antagonist states), like they would ever take him in.

The guy is plain farked. more as a future message to anyone who dares republish American data on the internet.
 
2012-08-15 09:30:44 PM  

CygnusDarius: gilgigamesh: FlyingLizardOfDoom: Someone needs to take this guy out. He is a threat to international security.

What exactly has he done to justify summary execution?

Reasons.


Lots of reasons
 
2012-08-15 09:30:44 PM  

BafflerMeal: From the wikileaks twitter feed, multiple police vans have arrived at the embassy and all of the livestreams are being DOS'd.


Huh.
 
2012-08-15 09:31:09 PM  

HotIgneous Intruder: Bungles: Especially given he should, you know, have gone to the Australian embassy. Then the situation would be different.

Yeah. He would be turned over to the US nearly instantly.


Australia isn't his biggest fan. Ecuador was an easy choice. If he already interviewed their big dog, you know the topic came up, and was obviously well received.
 
2012-08-15 09:31:23 PM  

Bungles: HotIgneous Intruder: Bungles: Especially given he should, you know, have gone to the Australian embassy. Then the situation would be different.

Yeah. He would be turned over to the US nearly instantly.


No he wouldn't.

He'd have been turned over to the Swedish, after a prolonged extradition (just like happened in the UK)

Then possibly the US. Sweden's fault!


oh right sweden. forgot about them. yeah they would get first crack. but after he's in custody there is no way his path doesn't end up in the US. Probably something like gitmo so they can preform "enhanced interrogation" like they are on manning.
 
2012-08-15 09:31:25 PM  

Bungles: cameroncrazy1984: Bungles: Yeah, good luck getting him out of the country, Ecuador.

How exactly are you going to get him out of the country without him stepping on UK soil?

The sole option is for him to drive out of the embassy in a diplomatic car, and drive onto a back loaded freight plane at a Ecuadorian private landing strip.

Ecuador has none of those things in the UK.

He'll be arrested during transit, because there's not way for him to reach Ecuador without leaving Ecuadorian sovereignty.

Ecuadorian military or diplomatic helicopter to a waiting ship off the coast.


From where? They don't have a helipad, and they can't exactly hover a tactical military helicopter over central London without quite quickly becoming "the bad guys".

I also suspect that they don't have a ship with a helipad either (they're not exactly common, outside the major powers and Jame Bond films).


Here's one for about 1.5 million.

Link
 
2012-08-15 09:31:42 PM  

Esc7: HotIgneous Intruder: Bungles: Especially given he should, you know, have gone to the Australian embassy. Then the situation would be different.

Yeah. He would be turned over to the US nearly instantly.

Truth.
The USA exerts a gravitational field over nearly all english speaking/ NATO countries.

Seriously it is looking like Assange is going to have live the rest of his days out in unfriendly banana republics or the bad boys club(totalitarian antagonist states), like they would ever take him in.

The guy is plain farked. more as a future message to anyone who dares republish American data on the internet.



Then why does the UK, the most Englishy of all English-speaking countries, have no intention or plans to hand him over to the US?
 
2012-08-15 09:31:51 PM  

Esc7: HotIgneous Intruder: Bungles: Especially given he should, you know, have gone to the Australian embassy. Then the situation would be different.

Yeah. He would be turned over to the US nearly instantly.

Truth. The USA exerts a gravitational field over nearly all english speaking/ NATO countries.

Seriously it is looking like Assange is going to have live the rest of his days out in unfriendly banana republics or the bad boys club(totalitarian antagonist states), like they would ever take him in.

The guy is plain farked. more as a future message to anyone who dares republish American data on the internet.



I imagine a Aung San Suu Kyi future for him.

RULE OF LAW! RULE OF LAW! RULE OF LAW!

Oh wait...

USA! USA! USA!
 
2012-08-15 09:33:25 PM  

machodonkeywrestler: Bungles: cameroncrazy1984: Bungles: Yeah, good luck getting him out of the country, Ecuador.

How exactly are you going to get him out of the country without him stepping on UK soil?

The sole option is for him to drive out of the embassy in a diplomatic car, and drive onto a back loaded freight plane at a Ecuadorian private landing strip.

Ecuador has none of those things in the UK.

He'll be arrested during transit, because there's not way for him to reach Ecuador without leaving Ecuadorian sovereignty.

Ecuadorian military or diplomatic helicopter to a waiting ship off the coast.


From where? They don't have a helipad, and they can't exactly hover a tactical military helicopter over central London without quite quickly becoming "the bad guys".

I also suspect that they don't have a ship with a helipad either (they're not exactly common, outside the major powers and Jame Bond films).

Here's one for about 1.5 million.

Link



Well that's lovely. Now does Ecuador have one? Or are you suggesting they go buy one?
 
2012-08-15 09:34:50 PM  

BafflerMeal: Esc7: HotIgneous Intruder: Bungles: Especially given he should, you know, have gone to the Australian embassy. Then the situation would be different.

Yeah. He would be turned over to the US nearly instantly.

Truth. The USA exerts a gravitational field over nearly all english speaking/ NATO countries.

Seriously it is looking like Assange is going to have live the rest of his days out in unfriendly banana republics or the bad boys club(totalitarian antagonist states), like they would ever take him in.

The guy is plain farked. more as a future message to anyone who dares republish American data on the internet.


I imagine a Aung San Suu Kyi future for him.

RULE OF LAW! RULE OF LAW! RULE OF LAW!

Oh wait...

USA! USA! USA!




Aung San Suu Kyi's story might resonate less if she'd masturbated over drunk Swedish groupies.


./wait...
 
2012-08-15 09:35:20 PM  

Bungles: Then why does the UK, the most Englishy of all English-speaking countries, have no intention or plans to hand him over to the US?


Because the US hasn't filed charges. Can't extradite without charges.
 
2012-08-15 09:36:20 PM  

cman: UK is full of talk

They wont risk the international punishments


Where do you think the US inherited its attitude from? Of course they will and the economy being what it is, people may threaten punishment but they wont' follow through.
 
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