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(Santa Monica Daily Press)   Unexplained aches and pains? It's probably because of wi-fi parking meters. You should sue the city. For $1.7 billion. Plus $1.7 million a month. It's only fair considering the trauma you've been through   (smdp.com) divider line 129
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2012-08-15 06:27:43 PM  
Seems legit. I say pay the lady.
 
2012-08-15 06:39:35 PM  
It's not even just her that's concerned about this. Article mentions that there is an entire medical community that is concerned about the impact that cell phones, wireless networks, and other low-level emitters are having on their residents' health. Tobacco companies walked the same line decades ago, hiring their own internal scientists to conclude that cigarettes were safe, and people still smoke even today, despite the overwhelming evidence that cigarettes pose an enormous health risk. I don't want to wait another few decades before impartial parties look at the true data and see the direct correlations between wireless signals and an array of health risks.
 
2012-08-15 07:07:44 PM  
Quote button has stopped working. Can't be arsed to copy and paste.

ignite ice: 1/10
 
2012-08-15 07:08:08 PM  
Ha ha stupid lady blaming her health problems on wifi when they are obviously caused by vaccines.
 
2012-08-15 07:08:23 PM  
Lady the pain is not from the wi fi meters its from your dog boinking you doggy style.
 
2012-08-15 07:09:02 PM  
Look up ionizing vs non-ionizing radiation.

Now look up the inverse-square law.

We'll still be here when you get back.
 
2012-08-15 07:10:13 PM  
She's willing to settle for a fresh roll of Reynold's Wrap. The fancy non-stick kind.
 
2012-08-15 07:11:07 PM  
ignite ice, as long as you don't press your head up against one of the meters and hold it there for 15-20 years, while constantly messing with the buttons to make sure that it's triggering the wi-fi signals.... you'll probably be okay.
 
2012-08-15 07:11:20 PM  
Think big, just like banks and politicians. Rob someone of twenty dollars, go to jail for 2 years, rob the general population of billions, not even a slap on the wrist.
Think big, just like her.
 
2012-08-15 07:11:29 PM  
She should just wear a body suit made of tin foil.
 
2012-08-15 07:13:10 PM  
Talking of cellphones and American-ism, is it still true you guys have to pay for _incoming_ calls?
/Not American.
 
2012-08-15 07:13:36 PM  
This guy has the solution:

3.bp.blogspot.com 

/hot like WiFi radiation
 
2012-08-15 07:14:25 PM  
Returning legal extortion to the government--I like it. I say good for her.
 
2012-08-15 07:14:44 PM  
I'm assuming that $1.7 million a month will go down a bit when Obamacare fully starts in 2014.
 
2012-08-15 07:15:23 PM  
FTFA: ringing in her ears, ear infections and tightness on the back, left side of her neck.

She needs to look up cervicogenic headaches.
 
2012-08-15 07:16:12 PM  
ignite ice, as long as you don't press your head up against one of the meters and hold it there for 15-20 years, while constantly messing with the buttons to make sure that it's triggering the wi-fi signals.... you'll probably be okay.

farm4.staticflickr.com
 
Xai
2012-08-15 07:16:47 PM  
even if her claim is legit - 1.7b? how do you reach that figure?
 
2012-08-15 07:17:39 PM  
ignite ice It's not even just her that's concerned about this. Article mentions that there is an entire medical community that is concerned about the impact that cell phones, wireless networks, and other low-level emitters are having on their residents' health. Tobacco companies walked the same line decades ago, hiring their own internal scientists to conclude that cigarettes were safe, and people still smoke even today, despite the overwhelming evidence that cigarettes pose an enormous health risk..

There have been numerous peer-reviewed studies done on low-level EM emissions (go to pub med and check). At best they're inconclusive, but the vast majority can find no link to health problems. The whole issue reminds me of the chemical sensitivity issue from 15 years ago where after years of research the only conclusive link found was to mental health issues.

I would also point out that we are bathed in natural low-level EM emissions daily so I doubt after 4 billion years of evolution their effects are as deleterious as some people would like to believe.

I don't want to wait another few decades before impartial parties look at the true data and see the direct correlations between wireless signals and an array of health risks

Correlations, direct or otherwise, do not show cause.
 
2012-08-15 07:17:44 PM  
She do more tai chi.

No, really.

Get some exercise.
 
2012-08-15 07:17:57 PM  
There is always the option of EMF shielfing clothing. Dont forget the shoe ground strap... and the car ground adapter...

lessemf.com

/sleep better with the emf shielding sleeping bag
 
2012-08-15 07:21:08 PM  
Site farked?
 
2012-08-15 07:23:26 PM  

ignite ice: It's not even just her that's concerned about this.


WiFi is radio. It's a victim of its own good marketing. It doesn't seem cool and high tech if you call it what it is, a walkie talkie duct taped to a computer. But that's what it is.
 
2012-08-15 07:24:22 PM  

ignite ice: I don't want to wait another few decades before impartial parties look at the true data and see the direct correlations between wireless signals and an array of health risks.


Since you've already made up your mind, why do you care about science?
 
2012-08-15 07:25:34 PM  
"She went to the doctor in late May with an ear infection, which required antibiotics to cure."

OMG computer viruses have jumped the shark and are now transmitting to organics via RF signal! Good thing the antibiotics worked.

"Barton, known amongst City Council regulars for her detailed reports during public comment periods..."

youdontsay.jpg
 
2012-08-15 07:25:49 PM  

ignite ice: heir own internal scientists to conclude that cigarettes were safe, and people still smoke even today, despite the overwhelming evidence that cigarettes pose an enormous health risk. I don't want to wait another few decades before impartial parties look at the true data and s


Ignorant Ass lives up to his handle once again.
 
2012-08-15 07:26:03 PM  

Yuri Futanari: FTFA: ringing in her ears, ear infections and tightness on the back, left side of her neck.

She needs to look up cervicogenic headaches.


That are brought on by neck tension from anxiety caused by incessant worrying about 'wireless soup'
 
2012-08-15 07:26:05 PM  
Every time I hear some nut claiming that Wi-Fi is causing them harm, I think of this lady:

www.clublexus.com
 
2012-08-15 07:26:17 PM  
This would be a good case for a caveman lawyer.
 
2012-08-15 07:26:48 PM  
Had she tried driving away from them as fast as possible?

www.thedashingfellows.com
 
2012-08-15 07:29:01 PM  

Mrtraveler01: ignite ice, as long as you don't press your head up against one of the meters and hold it there for 15-20 years, while constantly messing with the buttons to make sure that it's triggering the wi-fi signals.... you'll probably be okay.

[farm4.staticflickr.com image 400x300]


I actually LOLed. Well played, sir.
 
2012-08-15 07:29:49 PM  
I would think, with manmade radio waves sweeping all over the Earth for what, over 100 years now, at least, if they were causing any serious medical issues we would have figured it out by now.
 
2012-08-15 07:29:50 PM  
There is a woman in my neighbourhood who complains about wi-fi and em radiation causing her problems. She works in the computer section of a department store. She claims that when she leaves the department, she feels better immediately. She is a farking moron.
 
2012-08-15 07:30:26 PM  
Oh wow I can already feel this heading into a "fibromyalgia is a fake illness like all the other fake illnesses liberals make up" type of thread.

Flame on!
 
2012-08-15 07:30:50 PM  
She is hoping to move out of Santa Monica within the year to escape the wireless soup.

Where does she plan to live where she won't be exposed to the signals from her neighbors' wireless routers?
 
2012-08-15 07:31:13 PM  
I've always thought it would be fun to chase one of these "wifi sensitive" types around with a wireless router. When they flip their shiat, open the case to reveal that it's just a battery powering an LED and ask them if they now believe that they are farking crazy.
 
2012-08-15 07:31:18 PM  

ArcadianRefugee: Every time I hear some nut claiming that Wi-Fi is causing them harm, I think of this lady:


This is real?
 
2012-08-15 07:31:33 PM  
Tyrosine Correlations, direct or otherwise, do not show cause.

So there's only a constant conjunction between me hitting the "quote" button and absolutely nothing happening?

1.bp.blogspot.com
 
2012-08-15 07:32:55 PM  

ModernLuddite: There is a woman in my neighbourhood who complains about wi-fi and em radiation causing her problems. She works in the computer section of a department store. She claims that when she leaves the department, she feels better immediately. She is a farking moron.


I feel the same way, but I always chalked it up to a combination of fluorescent tube lighting and soul crushing despair.
 
2012-08-15 07:33:40 PM  
In all seriousness, I don't understand the concern about wi-fi when police radar has been spewing ionizing radiation around for decades and at much more dangerous frequencies.
 
2012-08-15 07:33:49 PM  

AliceBToklasLives: Tyrosine Correlations, direct or otherwise, do not show cause.

So there's only a constant conjunction between me hitting the "quote" button and absolutely nothing happening?

[1.bp.blogspot.com image 163x200]


It's working for me now, but a few minutes ago there was no quote button at all.
 
2012-08-15 07:37:44 PM  

China White Tea: I've always thought it would be fun to chase one of these "wifi sensitive" types around with a wireless router. When they flip their shiat, open the case to reveal that it's just a battery powering an LED and ask them if they now believe that they are farking crazy.


No doubt the answer you would get: "Well, I was probably being bombarded with wi-fi signals from somewhere *else* nearby. That's why my sensitivities were triggered."

James Randi likes to call the true believers in stuff like this the "unsinkable rubber ducks." No matter what you show them, prove to them, demonstrate to them... you cannot shake their belief in what they have decided is true, and they pop right back up with another explanation. (Cue somebody saying "Yeah, like the way *you* believe in science!" *sigh*)
 
2012-08-15 07:38:32 PM  

China White Tea: ModernLuddite: There is a woman in my neighbourhood who complains about wi-fi and em radiation causing her problems. She works in the computer section of a department store. She claims that when she leaves the department, she feels better immediately. She is a farking moron.

I feel the same way, but I always chalked it up to a combination of fluorescent tube lighting and soul crushing despair.


awesomebmovies.com


/has a brain cloud....
 
2012-08-15 07:39:13 PM  

farkityfarker: AliceBToklasLives: Tyrosine Correlations, direct or otherwise, do not show cause.

So there's only a constant conjunction between me hitting the "quote" button and absolutely nothing happening?

[1.bp.blogspot.com image 163x200]

It's working for me now, but a few minutes ago there was no quote button at all.


They briefly broke the quote function when they updated the "add comment" feature.
 
2012-08-15 07:39:37 PM  
This is a person that should be shot
 
2012-08-15 07:40:17 PM  

Osomatic: China White Tea: I've always thought it would be fun to chase one of these "wifi sensitive" types around with a wireless router. When they flip their shiat, open the case to reveal that it's just a battery powering an LED and ask them if they now believe that they are farking crazy.

No doubt the answer you would get: "Well, I was probably being bombarded with wi-fi signals from somewhere *else* nearby. That's why my sensitivities were triggered."


Then conduct the experiment in a faraday cage, and have radiation sensors to prove that it's working.
 
2012-08-15 07:40:26 PM  
it's just your fibromyalgia meds acting up
 
2012-08-15 07:41:28 PM  
"So few people even have the slightest inkling that wireless devices pose health risks," she wrote in an e-mail.

No lady, few people are stupid or whackadoodle enough to believe it. And if you're going to continue to make that claim as fact then you're going to need to start coming up with some solid evidence.
 
2012-08-15 07:41:33 PM  

sleep lack: Talking of cellphones and American-ism, is it still true you guys have to pay for _incoming_ calls?
/Not American.


Yes, unless you have an unlimited plan, both incoming and outgoing minutes are counted.

This is also true in Canada, and a few other countries too, though I don't remember which ones.
 
2012-08-15 07:42:34 PM  
I would like to remind everyone of the following facts: paint chips are not a good snack, green glowsticks are not filled with mountain dew, and radio waves will not melt your brain. That was accomplished by your paint and glowstick fueled caniption fit.
 
2012-08-15 07:43:31 PM  

MrEricSir: Osomatic: China White Tea: I've always thought it would be fun to chase one of these "wifi sensitive" types around with a wireless router. When they flip their shiat, open the case to reveal that it's just a battery powering an LED and ask them if they now believe that they are farking crazy.

No doubt the answer you would get: "Well, I was probably being bombarded with wi-fi signals from somewhere *else* nearby. That's why my sensitivities were triggered."

Then conduct the experiment in a faraday cage, and have radiation sensors to prove that it's working.


50 bucks says it still wouldn't convince them.
 
2012-08-15 07:44:28 PM  

ttc2301: In all seriousness, I don't understand the concern about wi-fi when police radar has been spewing ionizing radiation around for decades and at much more dangerous frequencies.


Link

Also - BHA
 
2012-08-15 07:44:53 PM  
Apparently this lady is so full of shiat, the weight and stink of it crashed the damn server...
 
2012-08-15 07:45:28 PM  
This is happening in California, which has a very high density of trial lawyers per capita, so she just might win.
 
2012-08-15 07:45:49 PM  

ClavellBCMI: farkityfarker: AliceBToklasLives: Tyrosine Correlations, direct or otherwise, do not show cause.

So there's only a constant conjunction between me hitting the "quote" button and absolutely nothing happening?

[1.bp.blogspot.com image 163x200]

It's working for me now, but a few minutes ago there was no quote button at all.

They briefly broke the quote function when they updated the "add comment" feature.


well, I need something to whine about, so there's that

/works now
 
2012-08-15 07:46:03 PM  
Do me a favor and think for a moment about that big ball of fire in the sky, and realize that that thing sitting millions of miles away has infinitely more potential to make you sick than wi-fi does.

farking Luddites.
 
2012-08-15 07:46:18 PM  

chaosweaver: I would like to remind everyone of the following facts: paint chips are not a good snack, green glowsticks are not filled with mountain dew, and radio waves will not melt your brain. That was accomplished by your paint and glowstick fueled caniption fit.


From the shadows you hide
you are hollow inside

wallpaper.metalship.org
 
2012-08-15 07:47:00 PM  

farkityfarker: She is hoping to move out of Santa Monica within the year to escape the wireless soup.

Where does she plan to live where she won't be exposed to the signals from her neighbors' wireless routers?


The United States National Radio Quiet Zone; by Federal law, no wi-fi, no cell phones, no wireless anything.
upload.wikimedia.org
"Due to the restrictions, the area has attracted people who believe they suffer from electromagnetic hypersensitivity."
 
2012-08-15 07:47:18 PM  
So now people are making up more fake "diseases" like fibromyalgia and lupus?
 
2012-08-15 07:47:31 PM  
I think she's Crazy.

But I do want to know why a city would pay for a wifi connection to jack a card reader into a receiver 5 to 8 feet away when you could hard wire it for .05/ft. And we know it has a digital readout, so there's power there already. Unless it's solar and then I just park where I want to after midnight.
 
2012-08-15 07:48:06 PM  

MrEricSir: Osomatic: China White Tea: I've always thought it would be fun to chase one of these "wifi sensitive" types around with a wireless router. When they flip their shiat, open the case to reveal that it's just a battery powering an LED and ask them if they now believe that they are farking crazy.

No doubt the answer you would get: "Well, I was probably being bombarded with wi-fi signals from somewhere *else* nearby. That's why my sensitivities were triggered."

Then conduct the experiment in a faraday cage, and have radiation sensors to prove that it's working.


All that would prove is that they are more sensitive than the radiation sensors.
 
2012-08-15 07:48:41 PM  
Huh, the FARK squirrel ate my link: here she is again.
 
2012-08-15 07:48:47 PM  

Jon iz teh kewl: chaosweaver: I would like to remind everyone of the following facts: paint chips are not a good snack, green glowsticks are not filled with mountain dew, and radio waves will not melt your brain. That was accomplished by your paint and glowstick fueled caniption fit.

From the shadows you hide
you are hollow inside

[wallpaper.metalship.org image 600x400]


Nice. Prefer the original singer myself though.
 
2012-08-15 07:49:13 PM  
So wait... is her theory that bacteria hitch a ride on wifi signals into her ear?
 
2012-08-15 07:49:34 PM  

Osomatic: 50 bucks says it still wouldn't convince them.


Probably not, but it will convince those who are convinced by scientific demonstrations. Which is the best one can hope for, really.
 
2012-08-15 07:49:35 PM  

bmihura: This is happening in California, which has a very high density of trial lawyers per capita, so she just might win.


Despite what you hear, we're not actually all crazy here, not even in the People's Republic of Santa Monica. I think it'll be okay. Even if she did win, good luck to her collecting it. 1.7 billion is probably the city's entire revenue for the next 20 years or so.
 
2012-08-15 07:49:46 PM  
You guys don't know what you're talking about. My psychic told me that wifi radiation was a real problem.
(Apparently it doesn't just make you sick, but it interferes with the communications channel between sensitives and Mother Shibubu).
 
2012-08-15 07:49:53 PM  

GilRuiz1: farkityfarker: She is hoping to move out of Santa Monica within the year to escape the wireless soup.

Where does she plan to live where she won't be exposed to the signals from her neighbors' wireless routers?

The United States National Radio Quiet Zone; by Federal law, no wi-fi, no cell phones, no wireless anything.
[upload.wikimedia.org image 250x277]
"Due to the restrictions, the area has attracted people who believe they suffer from electromagnetic hypersensitivity."


And yet you're still going to be bombarded with radio waves living there.

That's one expensive placebo...
 
2012-08-15 07:50:20 PM  

Jon iz teh kewl: chaosweaver: I would like to remind everyone of the following facts: paint chips are not a good snack, green glowsticks are not filled with mountain dew, and radio waves will not melt your brain. That was accomplished by your paint and glowstick fueled caniption fit.

From the shadows you hide
you are hollow inside


Is that a crack about me being a Ginger?

/Has as much hair as the guy up front, now, as well.
 
2012-08-15 07:51:08 PM  

ZoeNekros: So wait... is her theory that bacteria hitch a ride on wifi signals into her ear?


Well, computers get viruses all the time, don't then?
 
2012-08-15 07:51:40 PM  

Osomatic: bmihura: This is happening in California, which has a very high density of trial lawyers per capita, so she just might win.

Despite what you hear, we're not actually all crazy here, not even in the People's Republic of Santa Monica. I think it'll be okay. Even if she did win, good luck to her collecting it. 1.7 billion is probably the city's entire revenue for the next 20 years or so.


What, Santa Monica hasn't sold their meters to Abu Dhabi yet?

/damn socialists
 
2012-08-15 07:52:24 PM  

chaosweaver: Jon iz teh kewl: chaosweaver: I would like to remind everyone of the following facts: paint chips are not a good snack, green glowsticks are not filled with mountain dew, and radio waves will not melt your brain. That was accomplished by your paint and glowstick fueled caniption fit.

From the shadows you hide
you are hollow inside

Is that a crack about me being a Ginger?

/Has as much hair as the guy up front, now, as well.


Can't tell if serious... -_-
 
2012-08-15 07:53:58 PM  
www.zug.com
 
2012-08-15 07:54:37 PM  

Shmopee: Jon iz teh kewl: chaosweaver: I would like to remind everyone of the following facts: paint chips are not a good snack, green glowsticks are not filled with mountain dew, and radio waves will not melt your brain. That was accomplished by your paint and glowstick fueled caniption fit.

From the shadows you hide
you are hollow inside

[wallpaper.metalship.org image 600x400]

Nice. Prefer the original singer myself though.


uhhh durrrrreee??? singer that's Christian Alvestam you horrible person.
 
2012-08-15 07:56:10 PM  

Shmopee: chaosweaver: Jon iz teh kewl: chaosweaver: I would like to remind everyone of the following facts: paint chips are not a good snack, green glowsticks are not filled with mountain dew, and radio waves will not melt your brain. That was accomplished by your paint and glowstick fueled caniption fit.

From the shadows you hide
you are hollow inside

Is that a crack about me being a Ginger?

/Has as much hair as the guy up front, now, as well.

Can't tell if serious... -_-


Why would I lie about being a Ginger?
 
2012-08-15 07:57:07 PM  

chaosweaver: Is that a crack about me being a Ginger?


us10.memecdn.com
 
2012-08-15 07:57:44 PM  

Jon iz teh kewl: Shmopee: Jon iz teh kewl: chaosweaver: I would like to remind everyone of the following facts: paint chips are not a good snack, green glowsticks are not filled with mountain dew, and radio waves will not melt your brain. That was accomplished by your paint and glowstick fueled caniption fit.

From the shadows you hide
you are hollow inside

[wallpaper.metalship.org image 600x400]

Nice. Prefer the original singer myself though.

uhhh durrrrreee??? singer that's Christian Alvestam you horrible person.


So it is. My fault for not actually looking at the picture and just assuming it was recent.

/chastised
 
2012-08-15 07:58:34 PM  

meat0918: GilRuiz1: farkityfarker: She is hoping to move out of Santa Monica within the year to escape the wireless soup.

Where does she plan to live where she won't be exposed to the signals from her neighbors' wireless routers?

The United States National Radio Quiet Zone; by Federal law, no wi-fi, no cell phones, no wireless anything.
[upload.wikimedia.org image 250x277]
"Due to the restrictions, the area has attracted people who believe they suffer from electromagnetic hypersensitivity."

And yet you're still going to be bombarded with radio waves living there.

That's one expensive placebo...


She'll be able to afford it with her $1.7 billion settlement.
 
2012-08-15 07:59:44 PM  

gingerjet: chaosweaver: Is that a crack about me being a Ginger?


You WOULD have that ready for use at any time....
 
2012-08-15 08:00:35 PM  

chaosweaver: Shmopee: chaosweaver: Jon iz teh kewl: chaosweaver: I would like to remind everyone of the following facts: paint chips are not a good snack, green glowsticks are not filled with mountain dew, and radio waves will not melt your brain. That was accomplished by your paint and glowstick fueled caniption fit.

From the shadows you hide
you are hollow inside

Is that a crack about me being a Ginger?

/Has as much hair as the guy up front, now, as well.

Can't tell if serious... -_-

Why would I lie about being a Ginger?


Touche...was talking about how you don't seem to recognize the lyrics from the song that I assume your handle came from, but I've been already been burned once in the last five minutes for assuming...
 
2012-08-15 08:01:27 PM  

chaosweaver: You WOULD have that ready for use at any time....


Of course. Just look at my name ...
 
2012-08-15 08:03:52 PM  
Non-ionizing radiation is non-ionizing, this is like middle-school-level science nowadays so I suspect even judges know it.
 
2012-08-15 08:06:10 PM  

Shmopee: Jon iz teh kewl: Shmopee: Jon iz teh kewl: chaosweaver: I would like to remind everyone of the following facts: paint chips are not a good snack, green glowsticks are not filled with mountain dew, and radio waves will not melt your brain. That was accomplished by your paint and glowstick fueled caniption fit.

From the shadows you hide
you are hollow inside

[wallpaper.metalship.org image 600x400]

Nice. Prefer the original singer myself though.

uhhh durrrrreee??? singer that's Christian Alvestam you horrible person.

So it is. My fault for not actually looking at the picture and just assuming it was recent.

/chastised


RWAWRR
www.fourteeng.net
 
2012-08-15 08:09:03 PM  
@ Shmopee : I actually had been using this handle for things long before i'd even heard of these guys. I just felt that a ginger joke would get more attention. Which it seems to have.
 
2012-08-15 08:10:01 PM  

Jon iz teh kewl: Shmopee: Jon iz teh kewl: Shmopee: Jon iz teh kewl: chaosweaver: I would like to remind everyone of the following facts: paint chips are not a good snack, green glowsticks are not filled with mountain dew, and radio waves will not melt your brain. That was accomplished by your paint and glowstick fueled caniption fit.

From the shadows you hide
you are hollow inside

[wallpaper.metalship.org image 600x400]

Nice. Prefer the original singer myself though.

uhhh durrrrreee??? singer that's Christian Alvestam you horrible person.

So it is. My fault for not actually looking at the picture and just assuming it was recent.

/chastised

RWAWRR
[www.fourteeng.net image 402x270]


Jaysus...he's so Angry Swedish in that picture it makes my soul hurt...

/Wants to make Finntroll joke, comes up empty
 
2012-08-15 08:11:24 PM  

chaosweaver: @ Shmopee : I actually had been using this handle for things long before i'd even heard of these guys. I just felt that a ginger joke would get more attention. Which it seems to have.


Well played, Clerks, well played...
 
2012-08-15 08:13:26 PM  

This poster says: Returning legal extortion to the government--I like it. I say good for her.


She sounds like a kook, but Fight the Man! If the parking meters get removed she is a hero.

City's have budget problems why not eliminate whole departments like the parking department. I don't want to pay for their extravagant pensions. You can't even fight a parking ticket in court I've tried. You get sent to an administrative panel and not request a jury trial. fark the Parking Nazis.
 
2012-08-15 08:15:39 PM  

Shmopee: chaosweaver: @ Shmopee : I actually had been using this handle for things long before i'd even heard of these guys. I just felt that a ginger joke would get more attention. Which it seems to have.

Well played, Clerks, well played...


I have my moments. They are few and far between, but I still have them.
 
2012-08-15 08:15:44 PM  

ArcadianRefugee: Every time I hear some nut claiming that Wi-Fi is causing them harm, I think of this lady:

[www.clublexus.com image 464x542]


I'm too lazy to go hunting for it but I'd sure like to know how all that turned out 8 years later. That growing mass is what, 7 now?
 
2012-08-15 08:19:24 PM  

fanbladesaresharp: ArcadianRefugee: Every time I hear some nut claiming that Wi-Fi is causing them harm, I think of this lady:

[www.clublexus.com image 464x542]

I'm too lazy to go hunting for it but I'd sure like to know how all that turned out 8 years later. That growing mass is what, 7 now?


And I'm sure it's developmental problems are because of the jackhammers, and not her two-pack-a-day habit.
 
2012-08-15 08:22:25 PM  
none of us has had a breath of untainted air or a sip of pure water in our lives. the damage and decay of mankind's progress began long before our birth. and the lot of you are as arrogant and full of yourselves as can be. you speak like you have all the answers, you know the truths. morans. go back to your piss-ant colleges and get your money back. you've learned nothing.
 
2012-08-15 08:23:35 PM  

Osomatic: bmihura: This is happening in California, which has a very high density of trial lawyers per capita, so she just might win.

Despite what you hear, we're not actually all crazy here, not even in the People's Republic of Santa Monica. I think it'll be okay. Even if she did win, good luck to her collecting it. 1.7 billion is probably the city's entire revenue for the next 20 years or so.


Go visit the Peoples Republic of Arcata. Lots of moonbats and not many lawyers. The crazy gets to simmer a while before it boils over.
 
2012-08-15 08:30:24 PM  
Ah, yes. Electromagnetic sensitivity and "well-being." The last, desperate gasp of plaintiff's firms to get some money out of all those cell phone suits.
 
2012-08-15 08:31:11 PM  

KrispyKritter: none of us has had a breath of untainted air or a sip of pure water in our lives. the damage and decay of mankind's progress began long before our birth. and the lot of you are as arrogant and full of yourselves as can be. you speak like you have all the answers, you know the truths. morans. go back to your piss-ant colleges and get your money back. you've learned nothing.


Well, I'm glad I didn't go to college, then.
 
2012-08-15 08:32:56 PM  

fanbladesaresharp: ArcadianRefugee: Every time I hear some nut claiming that Wi-Fi is causing them harm, I think of this lady:

[www.clublexus.com image 464x542]

I'm too lazy to go hunting for it but I'd sure like to know how all that turned out 8 years later. That growing mass is what, 7 now?


Best I could do. Wanders into tl;dr territory, but the first paragraph is cringe inducing and a good summary.
 
2012-08-15 08:37:27 PM  

Ed Finnerty: She's willing to settle for a fresh roll of Reynold's Wrap. The fancy non-stick kind.


That was so far out of left field I snorted my OJ. I applaud you.
 
2012-08-15 08:42:37 PM  
I figured there would at least be one dr evil pic
 
2012-08-15 08:45:53 PM  

MrEricSir: ignite ice: I don't want to wait another few decades before impartial parties look at the true data and see the direct correlations between wireless signals and an array of health risks.

Since you've already made up your mind, why do you care about science?


well, at one point, science had said that both asbestos and DDT were awesome. And how many drugs that were once deemed safe to use have been taken off the market as more datapoints were filled in.

Just because the science of today thinks something is okay, it doesn't mean that the science of tomorrow won't find things differently.
 
2012-08-15 08:47:30 PM  

snowshovel: MrEricSir: ignite ice: I don't want to wait another few decades before impartial parties look at the true data and see the direct correlations between wireless signals and an array of health risks.

Since you've already made up your mind, why do you care about science?

well, at one point, science had said that both asbestos and DDT were awesome. And how many drugs that were once deemed safe to use have been taken off the market as more datapoints were filled in.

Just because the science of today thinks something is okay, it doesn't mean that the science of tomorrow won't find things differently.


Asbestos is awesome as an insulator. It'll also kill you 30-40 years later if you breathe it in, but that doesn't stop it from being an awesome insulator.
 
2012-08-15 08:48:00 PM  
FTA: A very vocal minority of people have begun raising the issue of whether or not that is enough.

i.imgur.com
 
2012-08-15 09:21:51 PM  

chaosweaver: ArcadianRefugee: Every time I hear some nut claiming that Wi-Fi is causing them harm, I think of this lady:

This is real?


Yes. I've lived in Roanoke since '97, and was one of the many people who clipped, scanned, and uploaded that little gem.
 
2012-08-15 09:24:18 PM  

Shmopee: fanbladesaresharp: ArcadianRefugee: Every time I hear some nut claiming that Wi-Fi is causing them harm, I think of this lady:

[www.clublexus.com image 464x542]

I'm too lazy to go hunting for it but I'd sure like to know how all that turned out 8 years later. That growing mass is what, 7 now?

Best I could do. Wanders into tl;dr territory, but the first paragraph is cringe inducing and a good summary.


Here's one from just after the kid was born.
 
2012-08-15 09:42:13 PM  

snowshovel: MrEricSir: ignite ice: I don't want to wait another few decades before impartial parties look at the true data and see the direct correlations between wireless signals and an array of health risks.

Since you've already made up your mind, why do you care about science?

well, at one point, science had said that both asbestos and DDT were awesome. And how many drugs that were once deemed safe to use have been taken off the market as more datapoints were filled in.

Just because the science of today thinks something is okay, it doesn't mean that the science of tomorrow won't find things differently.


So every irrational baseless technophobic fear is justified. We should return to the stone age when everything was natural.
 
2012-08-15 09:42:47 PM  

ArcadianRefugee: Shmopee: fanbladesaresharp: ArcadianRefugee: Every time I hear some nut claiming that Wi-Fi is causing them harm, I think of this lady:

[www.clublexus.com image 464x542]

I'm too lazy to go hunting for it but I'd sure like to know how all that turned out 8 years later. That growing mass is what, 7 now?

Best I could do. Wanders into tl;dr territory, but the first paragraph is cringe inducing and a good summary.

Here's one from just after the kid was born.


Let's see, carried the baby to term, but it was 3pounds underweight, had only gained half a pound between birth and article. Yup, their critcisms are just an opinion.

Somehow, I'm still amazed after all this time how much stupid can come out of a single person's mouth at one time.
 
2012-08-15 09:47:19 PM  

ArcadianRefugee: Shmopee: fanbladesaresharp: ArcadianRefugee: Every time I hear some nut claiming that Wi-Fi is causing them harm, I think of this lady:

[www.clublexus.com image 464x542]

I'm too lazy to go hunting for it but I'd sure like to know how all that turned out 8 years later. That growing mass is what, 7 now?

Best I could do. Wanders into tl;dr territory, but the first paragraph is cringe inducing and a good summary.

Here's one from just after the kid was born.


Holy balls...that last line, I think my brain about exploded from the absurdity of it...my ex-wife still smokes and my daughter damn sure knows what Mommy's doing out there on the back porch; I nearly shiat my pants the first time she mimed smoking with a straw...

"What are you doing Baby?"

"This is what Mommy does." *Exhales*

i2.kym-cdn.com
 
2012-08-15 09:56:12 PM  

chaosweaver: Yup, their critcisms are just an opinion..


I wonder how many lives would be saved if that word were just banned?
 
2012-08-15 10:01:51 PM  

GilRuiz1: farkityfarker: She is hoping to move out of Santa Monica within the year to escape the wireless soup.

Where does she plan to live where she won't be exposed to the signals from her neighbors' wireless routers?

The United States National Radio Quiet Zone; by Federal law, no wi-fi, no cell phones, no wireless anything.
[upload.wikimedia.org image 250x277]
"Due to the restrictions, the area has attracted people who believe they suffer from electromagnetic hypersensitivity."


I thought that was the Tits or GTFO zone
 
2012-08-15 10:10:14 PM  

AliceBToklasLives: chaosweaver: Yup, their critcisms are just an opinion..

I wonder how many lives would be saved if that word were just banned?


That's just your opinion, man.

/I agree with you.
//unbiased scientific fact is no longer opinion.
 
2012-08-15 10:15:21 PM  

wxboy: I would think, with manmade radio waves sweeping all over the Earth for what, over 100 years now, at least, if they were causing any serious medical issues we would have figured it out by now.


Yeah, but they weren't called "wifi". Now that we have a new name for it, its incredibly dangerous.
 
2012-08-15 10:42:43 PM  

Xai: even if her claim is legit - 1.7b? how do you reach that figure?


Probably what the city is self-insured for. Just a guess, based on the two lawsuits I've personally seen hit family members for invented various pains and phantom medical bills that just happened to add up to exactly the limit of their $X/person, $Y/accident policy.
 
2012-08-15 11:01:20 PM  
Somebody needs to learn the difference between ionizing and non-ionizing radiation. Oh, and that people have been bombarded with non-ionizing radiation from terrestrial sources for almost a century.

Last I checked, there weren't any major cancer clusters around radio and television transmitters, so this person can go walk off a pier. Farking hypercondriac.
 
2012-08-15 11:02:37 PM  

Shmopee: ArcadianRefugee: Shmopee: fanbladesaresharp: ArcadianRefugee: Every time I hear some nut claiming that Wi-Fi is causing them harm, I think of this lady:

[www.clublexus.com image 464x542]

I'm too lazy to go hunting for it but I'd sure like to know how all that turned out 8 years later. That growing mass is what, 7 now?

Best I could do. Wanders into tl;dr territory, but the first paragraph is cringe inducing and a good summary.

Here's one from just after the kid was born.

Holy balls...that last line, I think my brain about exploded from the absurdity of it...my ex-wife still smokes and my daughter damn sure knows what Mommy's doing out there on the back porch; I nearly shiat my pants the first time she mimed smoking with a straw...

"What are you doing Baby?"

"This is what Mommy does." *Exhales*

[i2.kym-cdn.com image 361x297]


Opinions are like assholes......
 
2012-08-15 11:05:39 PM  

Linkster: Shmopee: ArcadianRefugee: Shmopee: fanbladesaresharp: ArcadianRefugee: Every time I hear some nut claiming that Wi-Fi is causing them harm, I think of this lady:

[www.clublexus.com image 464x542]

I'm too lazy to go hunting for it but I'd sure like to know how all that turned out 8 years later. That growing mass is what, 7 now?

Best I could do. Wanders into tl;dr territory, but the first paragraph is cringe inducing and a good summary.

Here's one from just after the kid was born.

Holy balls...that last line, I think my brain about exploded from the absurdity of it...my ex-wife still smokes and my daughter damn sure knows what Mommy's doing out there on the back porch; I nearly shiat my pants the first time she mimed smoking with a straw...

"What are you doing Baby?"

"This is what Mommy does." *Exhales*

[i2.kym-cdn.com image 361x297]

Opinions are like assholes......


fark your opinion
 
2012-08-15 11:42:25 PM  

chaosweaver: I would like to remind everyone of the following facts: paint chips are not a good snack, green glowsticks are not filled with mountain dew, and radio waves will not melt your brain. That was accomplished by your paint and glowstick fueled caniption fit.


Actually, radio waves could totally melt your brain. At power levels 1000x what a wifi router can muster.

What do you think radar is? Microwave?
 
2012-08-15 11:58:29 PM  

ignite ice: It's not even just her that's concerned about this. Article mentions that there is an entire medical community that is concerned about the impact that cell phones, wireless networks, and other low-level emitters are having on their residents' health. Tobacco companies walked the same line decades ago, hiring their own internal scientists to conclude that cigarettes were safe, and people still smoke even today, despite the overwhelming evidence that cigarettes pose an enormous health risk. I don't want to wait another few decades before impartial parties look at the true data and see the direct correlations between wireless signals and an array of health risks.


Do you understand that you have been surrounded by EM Radiation your entire life? Power lines, the wiring in your house, YOUR COMPUTER, they all emit EM Radiation. So does the sun, it's all a part of the electromagnetic spectrum, you have been surrounded by it your entire life, as has every creature on the farming planet(it's a large part of how we evolved), so unless you plan to disconnect from the grid 100% and live in a giant lead box, quit your whining and stop being such a nervous Nancy.

Quit believing everything you read without thinking for yourself.
 
2012-08-15 11:59:00 PM  

snowshovel: MrEricSir: ignite ice: I don't want to wait another few decades before impartial parties look at the true data and see the direct correlations between wireless signals and an array of health risks.

Since you've already made up your mind, why do you care about science?

well, at one point, science had said that both asbestos and DDT were awesome. And how many drugs that were once deemed safe to use have been taken off the market as more datapoints were filled in.

Just because the science of today thinks something is okay, it doesn't mean that the science of tomorrow won't find things differently.


That is basically idiotic. "science" has never rendered an opinion that DDT or Asbestos were fit for contact with human beings. Never, not ONCE EVER. Unlike cigs and alcohol.

As far back as the 30's (1930's) the companies working with Asbestos knew it was dangerous to people. As far back as the 50's, they knew it caused meso, and they didn't even bother to warn most of their workers.

As for DDT, everyone knew right from the start that it would end up in the food chain, and they did it anyway. Not because it was considered "safe" but because it was effective and cheap.

Go fark yourself with this "science" bullshiat. SCIENCE told us this was stupid, economics told us to do it anyway, and here, something like 50 years later we have some fool spouting nonsense about what claims the scientific community did or didn't make.

You said Just because the political/economic powers of today thinks something is okay, it doesn't mean that the political/economic powers of tomorrow won't find things differently
There, FTFM.

Science is nice and clean, but unfortunately it basically says EVERYTHING is bad for you, especially in any quantity. Take, for instance, artificial sweeteners. Pretty much all of them have bad effects on the human body, most far worse than sugar itself is capable of, even in extreme doses. You know why they still exist? Because science doesn't get to decide what you buy, what you eat or anything of the sort. What does determine that is economics.

Only when it's more expensive to pay the lawsuits than it is to use the dangerous stuff does anything change. The reason tobacco is still around is that they managed to win in court with the idea that it's not their fault if you slowly poison yourself to death with their product. Unlike, say DDT, which was treated exactly opposite when the public finally found out how terrible the shiat was. SCIENCE knew all along, and tried to warn you.
 
2012-08-15 11:59:36 PM  

rolladuck: Xai: even if her claim is legit - 1.7b? how do you reach that figure?

Probably what the city is self-insured for. Just a guess, based on the two lawsuits I've personally seen hit family members for invented various pains and phantom medical bills that just happened to add up to exactly the limit of their $X/person, $Y/accident policy.


Most municipal governments self insure, so there's no maximum. I'd guess the 1.7 billion sum was pulled out of her ass just like her belief that wi-fi causes her medical problems.

/Willing to bet that her only real medical problem is a lack of Vitamin T
 
2012-08-16 12:01:32 AM  
I have a friend who has fibromyalgia AND is paranoid. The government reads his mail and taps his phone but wifi doesn't bother him.
 
2012-08-16 12:18:54 AM  
Remember when we as a society used to openly and publicly ridicule our village idiots?
 
2012-08-16 12:53:18 AM  

Mikey1969: Do you understand that you have been surrounded by EM Radiation your entire life? Power lines, the wiring in your house, YOUR COMPUTER, they all emit EM Radiation. So does the sun, it's all a part of the electromagnetic spectrum, you have been surrounded by it your entire life, as has every creature on the farming planet(it's a large part of how we evolved), so unless you plan to disconnect from the grid 100% and live in a giant lead box, quit your whining and stop being such a nervous Nancy.


Even in a lead box, you'd be surrounded by EM radiation; the lead box has a blackbody spectrum, after all.
 
2012-08-16 01:29:53 AM  

Lee Jackson Beauregard: Mikey1969: Do you understand that you have been surrounded by EM Radiation your entire life? Power lines, the wiring in your house, YOUR COMPUTER, they all emit EM Radiation. So does the sun, it's all a part of the electromagnetic spectrum, you have been surrounded by it your entire life, as has every creature on the farming planet(it's a large part of how we evolved), so unless you plan to disconnect from the grid 100% and live in a giant lead box, quit your whining and stop being such a nervous Nancy.

Even in a lead box, you'd be surrounded by EM radiation; the lead box has a blackbody spectrum, after all.



You've got a point. I had to use something to illustrate my idea, it's all I could think of at the moment.

These 'Smart Meter' Luddites are about the most annoying non-political group out there right now...
 
2012-08-16 01:36:28 AM  

GilRuiz1: farkityfarker: She is hoping to move out of Santa Monica within the year to escape the wireless soup.

Where does she plan to live where she won't be exposed to the signals from her neighbors' wireless routers?

The United States National Radio Quiet Zone; by Federal law, no wi-fi, no cell phones, no wireless anything.
[upload.wikimedia.org image 250x277]
"Due to the restrictions, the area has attracted people who believe they suffer from electromagnetic hypersensitivity."


Dude, who gets to go tell them that there are still EM SIgnals bouncing all the fark around that place? If someone gives me travelling money, I'll do it!! I'll even get some film for the 8mm film camera I have so I can catch their reactions.

Just because there is no WiFi and no cell phones, it does absolutely nothing to keep them from being exposed to EM Radiation.

Jesus, this would be MUCH easier if they hadn't decided to call it farking radiation!
 
2012-08-16 02:18:51 AM  

AliceBToklasLives: So there's only a constant conjunction between me hitting the "quote" button and absolutely nothing happening?


I admire your sense of Humer.
 
2012-08-16 02:20:28 AM  

Mikey1969: Lee Jackson Beauregard: Mikey1969: Do you understand that you have been surrounded by EM Radiation your entire life? Power lines, the wiring in your house, YOUR COMPUTER, they all emit EM Radiation. So does the sun, it's all a part of the electromagnetic spectrum, you have been surrounded by it your entire life, as has every creature on the farming planet(it's a large part of how we evolved), so unless you plan to disconnect from the grid 100% and live in a giant lead box, quit your whining and stop being such a nervous Nancy.

Even in a lead box, you'd be surrounded by EM radiation; the lead box has a blackbody spectrum, after all.


You've got a point. I had to use something to illustrate my idea, it's all I could think of at the moment.

These 'Smart Meter' Luddites are about the most annoying non-political group out there right now...


Think of all the Infrared radiation you'd be putting out in that box! You'd have to cool it to absolute zero to get rid of that! And that's at higher energy levels than WiFi!

Mikey1969: Dude, who gets to go tell them that there are still EM SIgnals bouncing all the fark around that place? If someone gives me travelling money, I'll do it!! I'll even get some film for the 8mm film camera I have so I can catch their reactions.

Just because there is no WiFi and no cell phones, it does absolutely nothing to keep them from being exposed to EM Radiation.

Jesus, this would be MUCH easier if they hadn't decided to call it farking radiation!


Someone should warn people about all that energetic radiation coming from the Sun! Or flashlights! My goodness, the frequencies are so much higher! Not to mention ELF waves! I hear those can penetrate lead up to 100 feet thick!
 
2012-08-16 03:20:29 AM  
Nah, it's motherinlawness, The forecast calls for an unspecified aching in the joints, a reminder it's important to get fat and lazy, and ensure you're miserable and others should be miserable also. A slight chance of fever on Fridays to ensure no one is going to have a good weekend and a mild case of ignorance and guiltiness could remain up to Sunday evening, thereby ensuring the leaden door or sadness be shut until Monday morning.
 
2012-08-16 06:24:24 AM  

JWideman: I have a friend who has fibromyalgia AND is paranoid. The government reads his mail and taps his phone but wifi doesn't bother him.


well it's encrypted, duh!!
 
2012-08-16 08:50:14 AM  
Funny, I sit next to a WiFi access point at work, and I have none of those symptoms. Wait, now that you mention it, my head does feel a little, well, funny. And my hair on the side of my head facing the AP is a little thinner. And I have these red splotches on my face, and I have....................

/$7.1 billion
 
2012-08-16 09:23:00 AM  

fusillade762: Had she tried driving away from them as fast as possible?

[www.thedashingfellows.com image 500x353]


Came for this. Thanks.
But what do you do when you hit the west coast?
 
2012-08-16 09:31:36 AM  
She's probably just suffering from Nerve Attenuation Syndrome

images4.static-bluray.com

Johnny: Yeah, the Black Shakes. What causes it?
Spider: What causes it?
[points to various pieces of equipment throughout the room]
Spider: This causes it! This causes it! This causes it! Information overload! All the electronics around you poisoning the airwaves. Technological farking civilization. But we still have all this shiat, because we can't live without it. Let me do my work.
 
2012-08-17 05:40:38 AM  

fanbladesaresharp: Osomatic: bmihura: This is happening in California, which has a very high density of trial lawyers per capita, so she just might win.

Despite what you hear, we're not actually all crazy here, not even in the People's Republic of Santa Monica. I think it'll be okay. Even if she did win, good luck to her collecting it. 1.7 billion is probably the city's entire revenue for the next 20 years or so.

Go visit the Peoples Republic of Arcata. Lots of moonbats and not many lawyers. The crazy gets to simmer a while before it boils over.


Well, sure, Arcata. But I thought the serious moonbattiness in NorCal was Berkeley? Although yeah, being right there next to CSUH (which nearly became my alma mater, and thank goodness it didn't since I don't enjoy smoking weed), I can see how it'd be like that. But yeah. Especially since I'm pretty sure no Cal States have law programs, though I'm sure if anybody is still paying any attention to this thread they will tell me just how wrong I am.
 
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