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(National Review)   So let's say Obama loses narrowly. And let's say Romney remains unlikable. And let's say Subby begins dating Natalie Portman. And let's say no new, compelling Democrat rises to power. Will Obama run again in 2016?   (nationalreview.com) divider line 148
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2012-08-15 06:15:24 PM
Given:

The headline is in the form of a question

Therefore:

No.

/QED
 
2012-08-15 06:22:28 PM
No. That will mean Sarah Palin is president and tacos will be outlawed.
 
2012-08-15 06:27:18 PM
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2012-08-15 06:27:48 PM
After that, Kristen Bell and Mila Kunis will beg me to share a weekend of hardcore animal lovemaking during and after a private concert played by the reunited Beatles.

thebosh.com

img2.timeinc.net
 
2012-08-15 06:36:21 PM
Well this if sure likely.
 
2012-08-15 06:40:52 PM
Yes. And Arnold Schwarzenegger will defeat him. Arnold and Karl Rove will ride in to save the nation. Truly, it will be glorious to have President Arnold name Grover Norquist as Secretary of State...
 
2012-08-15 06:44:55 PM
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And they broke the quote button, mother farkers
 
2012-08-15 06:44:59 PM
Natalie just got married. You should have used Kat Dennings. Boy, would I use Kat Dennings.
 
2012-08-15 06:45:06 PM
gimmegimme: After that, Kristen Bell and Mila Kunis will beg me to share a weekend of hardcore animal lovemaking during and after a private concert played by the reunited Beatles.

Sounds good, as long as the animal in question isn't a sloth.
 
2012-08-15 06:45:31 PM
Norquist for Secretary of Treasury!
 
2012-08-15 06:45:47 PM
Aw, man. These f**ks are living in a world of self-delusion. This shiat is pitiful.
 
2012-08-15 06:46:03 PM
Run "again" in 2016?

I don't even see him running now.

All he is doing is complaining about Romney - he isn't running on his record or how he is actually going to have better results than his current term.

He said it himself, if the economy doesn't turn around, he will be a one termer.
 
2012-08-15 06:49:46 PM
Okay.

Obama loses narrowly. Romney remains unlikable. Subby begins dating Natalie Portman. No new, compelling Democrat rises to power.

Now what?
 
2012-08-15 06:50:23 PM
Let's assume a spherical Fartbongo of constant density in a frictionless vacuum.
 
2012-08-15 06:51:12 PM
upload.wikimedia.org
Approves.
 
2012-08-15 06:54:13 PM
Given the proposed event time line, I seriously doubt if he would. He hasn't exactly had a walk in the park dealing with his opponents in his current term. If he lost to Mittens he would probably conclude that his general popularity simply wasn't high enough to justify another run. At least, I think that's how I would take it were I in his shoes. But then, my popularity has always been in the toilet, so I might be baised in this view.
 
2012-08-15 06:55:44 PM

Grote-Man: Okay.

Obama loses narrowly. Romney remains unlikable. Subby begins dating Natalie Portman. No new, compelling Democrat rises to power.

Now what?


tiny fists o' rage!
 
2012-08-15 06:55:52 PM
roger1

Look how stupid you a-

Account created: 2012-08-13 18:02:33

Oh.
 
2012-08-15 06:56:58 PM
Republicans continue needing someone to hate. Obama continues being so hateable.

media1.break.com
 
2012-08-15 06:58:16 PM
In liberals' view of the world, they never suffer a legitimate defeat.

And yet conservatives are the one's screaming voter fraud from the rafters.
 
2012-08-15 06:58:57 PM
Hot onto the ignore list.
POOF!
Trollbegone.
 
2012-08-15 06:59:42 PM
what? No more quoting?
Because too many people whined that they were being made to look like the idiots they were?
 
2012-08-15 06:59:48 PM
Make it Natalie Portman, Emma Stone, and Mila Kunis. It's probably more likely than this scenario.
 
2012-08-15 07:01:39 PM
A Dark Evil Omen:
Let's assume a spherical Fartbongo of constant density in a frictionless vacuum.


Oh that's beautiful, man.
+1
 
2012-08-15 07:02:55 PM

tenpoundsofcheese: Run "again" in 2016?

I don't even see him running now.

All he is doing is complaining about Romney - he isn't running on his record or how he is actually going to have better results than his current term.

He said it himself, if the economy doesn't turn around, he will be a one termer.


What exactly is Romney running on? Other tha "Obama bad!" of course.
 
2012-08-15 07:05:48 PM
If this unlikely scenario were to happen, yes.

Will it happen? I'd wager 3-to-4 no, because he'll get his second term in 2012. Romney needs to turn the electoral polling massively just to not get wiped off the floor.
 
2012-08-15 07:06:28 PM
The comments in that article really take derp to new levels. They're all starting with the assumption that Romney will win, only a question as to the margin. One guy says Obama doesn't even want to be president anymore... lolwut?
 
2012-08-15 07:08:28 PM
Uh...these guys are trying to take over the country and turn us back to 1950. Anyone else a little scared by this?

As a country and as a planet, we need to completely obliterate these crazies this fall.
 
2012-08-15 07:08:51 PM
It's hard to imagine Romney not winning a second term.
 
2012-08-15 07:10:49 PM
Obama already had to deal with Bush's 8 year farking over the country and raping the Constitution. He had to deal with a Republican Congress who wanted nothing more than to make Obama a one term President no matter what it did to the country.

So Obama loses this race (LOL, yeah right) and comes back in 2016? Comes back to what? And even worse economic clusterfark, wars in Syria and Iran and probably Iraq again? Obama, as your attorney I advise you to find a bomb shelter somewhere if you lose this re-election.
 
2012-08-15 07:11:17 PM
He certainly could. I don't think that situation will turn up, but it's happened before. It's even been won before: only once, but the whole situation has only even come up a couple of times.
 
2012-08-15 07:13:22 PM
If that happened (and even If he gets a second term) I could totally see him being sec state for whomever the next dem president is, considering how epically he executed foreign policy in his first term.
 
2012-08-15 07:16:25 PM
Let's make it Emma Samms, Phoebe Cates, and toss Emma Stone in there to keep the older ladies on their toes.
 
2012-08-15 07:18:56 PM
dinch: What exactly is Romney running on? Other tha "Obama bad!" of course.

His record as Governor of Massachusetts.
His record in business (Bain Capital).
His rescue of the financially troubled Salt Lake Olympics.


Well, there's always Ryan's Congressional voting record.
And Ryan's budget proposal.

Uhm....

OBAMA BAD!
 
2012-08-15 07:24:05 PM

roger1: Wow

Dems now going from full panic mode to full wish mode. 4 Years of Total Obama Policy after Policy Failure will not be erased soon.


This Obama 2016 theory is being floated by Republicans trying to make Obama look desperate. Like everything else they're saying it has no basis in reality.
 
2012-08-15 07:27:22 PM

bookelly: Uh...these guys are trying to take over the country and turn us back to 1950. Anyone else a little scared by this?

As a country and as a planet, we need to completely obliterate these crazies this fall.


1950? full of liberals and high taxes on job creators. even the GOP had a liberal wing! I think they are shooting for 1890.
 
2012-08-15 07:28:16 PM
HotIgneous Intruder

No, the button is just broke, should be fixed soon
 
2012-08-15 07:29:16 PM

Omahawg: bookelly: Uh...these guys are trying to take over the country and turn us back to 1950. Anyone else a little scared by this?

As a country and as a planet, we need to completely obliterate these crazies this fall.

1950? full of liberals and high taxes on job creators. even the GOP had a liberal wing! I think they are shooting for 1890.


You are correct. I meant 1450.
 
2012-08-15 07:29:21 PM

HotIgneous Intruder: Because too many people whined that they were being made to look like the idiots they were?


And it was just fixed
 
2012-08-15 07:29:42 PM

Nem Wan: roger1: Wow

Dems now going from full panic mode to full wish mode. 4 Years of Total Obama Policy after Policy Failure will not be erased soon.

This Obama 2016 theory is being floated by Republicans trying to make Obama look desperate. Like everything else they're saying it has no basis in reality.


Waiting for the 0bama 2016 bumper stickers.
Or the 0bama/Biden 1916 bumper stickers since Biden doesn't know that we are in the 21st century.
 
2012-08-15 07:30:03 PM

WhyteRaven74: HotIgneous Intruder: Because too many people whined that they were being made to look like the idiots they were?

And it was just fixed


Nope. Still broken.
 
2012-08-15 07:30:23 PM

roger1: 4 Years of Total Obama Policy after Policy Failure GOP legislative obstructionism of party before country will not be erased soon.


FTFY
 
2012-08-15 07:31:26 PM

roger1: Wow

Dems now going from full panic mode to full wish mode. 4 Years of Total Obama Policy after Policy Failure will not be erased soon.


Wow, don't really have a real argument to present here, do you?

Enjoy another 4 years of decent leadership.
 
2012-08-15 07:31:57 PM

roger1: Wow

Dems now going from full panic mode to full wish mode. 4 Years of Total Obama Policy after Policy Failure will not be erased soon.


Right, because if there's one place on the internet with more Democrats than anyone else, it's NRO.
 
2012-08-15 07:32:52 PM

roger1: It is all about the jobs folks.


images2.dailykos.com
 
2012-08-15 07:32:58 PM
<b><a href="http://www.fark.com/comments/7270257/78740561#c78740561" target="_blank">Ed Finnerty</a>:</b> <i>WhyteRaven74: HotIgneous Intruder: Because too many people whined that they were being made to look like the idiots they were?

And it was just fixed

Nope. Still broken.</i>

Back in Fark's Golden Days we used to type lots of <i>'s and </i>s and comment manually.

No more, I guess.
 
2012-08-15 07:34:57 PM
THEN WHO WAS PHONE?
 
2012-08-15 07:36:35 PM
Aaaaaaand Roger1 is on ignore.

Listen dude, I don't know who's paying you to sit around trolling, but kill yourself.
 
2012-08-15 07:36:46 PM
Republican want to set the Civ 4 civics to:

Police State
Vassalage
Serfdom
Free Market
Theocracy

I know from experience this is NOT a winning formula. Unless you plan on Domination Victory and perpetual war.
 
2012-08-15 07:36:52 PM
I'LL save my speculatin for who's gonna win this year, thank you.

romney.
 
2012-08-15 07:38:02 PM

colon_pow: I'LL save my speculatin for who's gonna win this year, thank you.

romney.


Right. Because an empty suit who doesn't give a f*ck about much of the country is a sure bet.
 
2012-08-15 07:38:11 PM

bookelly: Uh...these guys are trying to take over the country and turn us back to 1950. Anyone else a little scared by this?


Nineteen? You sure about that?
 
2012-08-15 07:38:34 PM

Ed Finnerty: Nope. Still broken.


Works for me
 
2012-08-15 07:38:39 PM

gimmegimme: After that, Kristen Bell and Mila Kunis will beg me to share a weekend of hardcore animal lovemaking during and after a private concert played by the reunited Beatles.


Are you including zombie George Harrison and zombie john Lennon?
 
2012-08-15 07:38:49 PM
4 years? If Obama loses, he will simply resurrect his Presidency three days later according to the Democrat Party.
 
2012-08-15 07:39:33 PM
It's cute that the NRO still thinks there will be an election. If they had bothered donating to Obama's campaign, they would have gotten the talking points email about the coup planned for October 27th, wherein Obama will dissolve Congress and install himself as Czar For Life.
 
2012-08-15 07:46:36 PM

Lost Thought 00: It's cute that the NRO still thinks there will be an election. If they had bothered donating to Obama's campaign, they would have gotten the talking points email about the coup planned for October 27th, wherein Obama will dissolve Congress and install himself as Czar For Life.


Thanks for the reminder--just going over my course syllabuses for this fall. I'll need to make sure I don't make anything due the Monday after the coup.
 
2012-08-15 07:48:41 PM

Savage Belief: gimmegimme: After that, Kristen Bell and Mila Kunis will beg me to share a weekend of hardcore animal lovemaking during and after a private concert played by the reunited Beatles.

Are you including zombie George Harrison and zombie john Lennon?


The NRO writer is working in a fantasy world...why can't I?
 
2012-08-15 07:49:09 PM

Savage Belief: gimmegimme: After that, Kristen Bell and Mila Kunis will beg me to share a weekend of hardcore animal lovemaking during and after a private concert played by the reunited Beatles.

Are you including zombie George Harrison and zombie john Lennon?


You forgot zombie Paul McCartney.
 
2012-08-15 07:49:48 PM

Lochsteppe: Lost Thought 00: It's cute that the NRO still thinks there will be an election. If they had bothered donating to Obama's campaign, they would have gotten the talking points email about the coup planned for October 27th, wherein Obama will dissolve Congress and install himself as Czar For Life.

Thanks for the reminder--just going over my course syllabuses for this fall. I'll need to make sure I don't make anything due the Monday after the coup.


You sound like an elitist college professor. I don't think the coup affects you.
 
2012-08-15 07:52:14 PM
Let's say my aunt had balls. What would she be?
 
2012-08-15 07:53:56 PM
I'm sorry, the correct answer is...
 
2012-08-15 07:54:42 PM
The choice in this election couldn't be clearer.

You can either vote for Obama and keep getting free stuff from the government until it collapses under its own weight, hoping you won't be the parasite who finally kills the host, or you can vote for Romney and realize a lot of uncomfortable but necessary fiscal pain is coming the nation's way.

It's Fantasyland vs. Realville.

It's Economic Fantasy vs. Economic Reality.

In Economic Fantasy, the federal government has an infinite amount of money and resources to spend on anything it wants, and any life touched by government subsidy is happy and magical. Once someone starts getting subsidies, those subsidies can never go away because it will hurt someone. Thus all cuts, no matter how modest, are draconian because somebody's grandma will lose their livelihood.

In Economic Reality, we're the brokest nation in history, our government rewards sloth and apathy, and, newsflash young farkers: By the time you'd be eligible for all the government spending you think is good, proper, and necessary, the money for your benefits will have long run out. If you're 50 you have a prayer of being the last one grandfathered in. If you're 20 you're just delusional.

If you are 20 and you vote for a Democrat you are voting against your economic interests. Plain and simple. I don't care how progressive your values are, I don't care how much you feel morally or intellectually superior to social conservatives for your stances on gay marriage and abortion - if you vote for a Democrat you are voting for fiscal insolvency for which you will pay the tab, because by all estimates you are going to outlive the programs you feel are so vital. Democrats will not fix these programs. Democrats have not even offered a budget in four years - something they are constitutionally mandated to do. They are an unserious party for unserious times - this is not one of those times.

Romney and Ryan are not ideologues and to suggest they are is ahistorical and ignorant. When Mitt Romney was Governor of Massachusetts he had to work with an 85% Democratic legislature. He vetoed them hundreds of times and they overrode his veto often. He even vetoed 3/4ths of the provisions of Romneycare. For Ryan's part his Medicare reform plan is called Ryan-Wyden - Wyden would be a liberal Democrat from Oregon.

Romney and Ryan have both been willing to put their necks on the line for serious policy proposals. Democrats respond with distortion, hyperbole, and demonization, but no plans of their own. Ever since 2010 Republicans have taken the lead on sending bill after bill to the upper chamber, and have been obstructed by Harry Reid. These are the facts, this is reality.

Be a Dem partisan if you want. But I can't afford that idiocy anymore and neither can you. Our tax rates our uncompetitive and must be lowered while broadening the base, even Canada and China have lowered their rates. Once Republicans steamroll Democrats out of the Senate and White House this November, we'll have substantially fewer problems with obstruction and go back to having a budget, not this continuing resolution garbage. Once we have a budget we'll be able to make baseline cuts and possibly pass a Balanced Budget Amendment. It may be true that Ryan's budget proposal doesn't go far enough - but if you're a Democrat, don't pretend you wouldn't attack a more vigorous proposal as anti-poor or anti-woman or whatever BS you'd be selling. You'd say Paul Ryan was trying to throw grandma off a cliff. Oh wait, Democrats already ran that ad.

I have no illusions about Mitt Romney. He is a transactional figure who does what is asked of him and not much more. He is driven entirely by results. Results are what we need right now, not intentions, not "hope and change."

We don't have the money for games any more. If you fear business owners - your fear is misplaced. You spend every moment of every day on a device a business owner innovated and made. If you believe the profit motive is evil - your belief is ignorant and ill-founded. Profit is what's left over after costs, and what business owners reinvest to keep improving those businesses and their products.

Willful economic illiteracy is no longer cost free. Complete ignorance of how the economy works is no longer acceptable. America as a nation can't afford those idiotic idealistic notions to drive votes anymore. Obama embodies both, and therefore cannot be re-elected. He is far in over his head and would rather talk about how Romney hates women or Romney murdered somebody's wife, somehow, or how somehow a tax cut for the bracket most small business owners file in is a tax raise on the rest of America. Even if you hate America and want to see it fail, it will have a sinkhole effect on the global economy you can't imagine, and the first nations to go will be whatever nation Russia or China decide to attack first, since the US bankrolls the defense for pretty much the rest of the world.

I'm tired of it, won't stand for it, and am doing everything in my power to get Republicans elected this year. Now is the time, and I fear it's the last chance any of us may have to turn this around
 
2012-08-15 07:55:42 PM
Is it sad that the only mention of Grover Cleveland is in the "keywords"?

/He spanked me on two non-consecutive occasions
 
2012-08-15 07:56:31 PM

Lost Thought 00: It's cute that the NRO still thinks there will be an election. If they had bothered donating to Obama's campaign, they would have gotten the talking points email about the coup planned for October 27th, wherein Obama will dissolve Congress and install himself as Czar For Life.


THE FIRST RULE OF CZAR FOR LIFE IS DON'T TALK ABOUT CZAR FOR LIFE!!!

Jeez.
 
2012-08-15 07:57:01 PM
 
2012-08-15 07:57:09 PM
I'm sorry, the correct answer is...

i.imgur.com
 
2012-08-15 07:57:39 PM

Ed Finnerty: Preview Button & Add Comment Button
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Your prayers have been answered.
 
2012-08-15 07:58:22 PM

Hurley the Mushroom: The choice in this election couldn't be clearer.

You can either vote for Obama and keep getting free stuff from the government until it collapses under its own weight, hoping you won't be the parasite who finally kills the host, or you can vote for Romney and realize a lot of uncomfortable but necessary fiscal pain is coming the nation's way.

It's Fantasyland vs. Realville.

It's Economic Fantasy vs. Economic Reality.

In Economic Fantasy, the federal government has an infinite amount of money and resources to spend on anything it wants, and any life touched by government subsidy is happy and magical. Once someone starts getting subsidies, those subsidies can never go away because it will hurt someone. Thus all cuts, no matter how modest, are draconian because somebody's grandma will lose their livelihood.

In Economic Reality, we're the brokest nation in history, our government rewards sloth and apathy, and, newsflash young farkers: By the time you'd be eligible for all the government spending you think is good, proper, and necessary, the money for your benefits will have long run out. If you're 50 you have a prayer of being the last one grandfathered in. If you're 20 you're just delusional.

If you are 20 and you vote for a Democrat you are voting against your economic interests. Plain and simple. I don't care how progressive your values are, I don't care how much you feel morally or intellectually superior to social conservatives for your stances on gay marriage and abortion - if you vote for a Democrat you are voting for fiscal insolvency for which you will pay the tab, because by all estimates you are going to outlive the programs you feel are so vital. Democrats will not fix these programs. Democrats have not even offered a budget in four years - something they are constitutionally mandated to do. They are an unserious party for unserious times - this is not one of those times.

Romney and Ryan are not ideologues and to suggest they are is ahistorical and ignorant. When Mitt Romney was Governor of Massachusetts he had to work with an 85% Democratic legislature. He vetoed them hundreds of times and they overrode his veto often. He even vetoed 3/4ths of the provisions of Romneycare. For Ryan's part his Medicare reform plan is called Ryan-Wyden - Wyden would be a liberal Democrat from Oregon.

Romney and Ryan have both been willing to put their necks on the line for serious policy proposals. Democrats respond with distortion, hyperbole, and demonization, but no plans of their own. Ever since 2010 Republicans have taken the lead on sending bill after bill to the upper chamber, and have been obstructed by Harry Reid. These are the facts, this is reality.

Be a Dem partisan if you want. But I can't afford that idiocy anymore and neither can you. Our tax rates our uncompetitive and must be lowered while broadening the base, even Canada and China have lowered their rates. Once Republicans steamroll Democrats out of the Senate and White House this November, we'll have substantially fewer problems with obstruction and go back to having a budget, not this continuing resolution garbage. Once we have a budget we'll be able to make baseline cuts and possibly pass a Balanced Budget Amendment. It may be true that Ryan's budget proposal doesn't go far enough - but if you're a Democrat, don't pretend you wouldn't attack a more vigorous proposal as anti-poor or anti-woman or whatever BS you'd be selling. You'd say Paul Ryan was trying to throw grandma off a cliff. Oh wait, Democrats already ran that ad.

I have no illusions about Mitt Romney. He is a transactional figure who does what is asked of him and not much more. He is driven entirely by results. Results are what we need right now, not intentions, not "hope and change."

We don't have the money for games any more. If you fear business owners - your fear is misplaced. You spend every moment of every day on a device a business owner innovated and made. If you believe the profit motive is evil - your belief is ignorant and ill-founded. Profit is what's left over after costs, and what business owners reinvest to keep improving those businesses and their products.

Willful economic illiteracy is no longer cost free. Complete ignorance of how the economy works is no longer acceptable. America as a nation can't afford those idiotic idealistic notions to drive votes anymore. Obama embodies both, and therefore cannot be re-elected. He is far in over his head and would rather talk about how Romney hates women or Romney murdered somebody's wife, somehow, or how somehow a tax cut for the bracket most small business owners file in is a tax raise on the rest of America. Even if you hate America and want to see it fail, it will have a sinkhole effect on the global economy you can't imagine, and the first nations to go will be whatever nation Russia or China decide to attack first, since the US bankrolls the defense for pretty much the rest of the world.

I'm tired of it, won't stand for it, and am doing everything in my power to get Republicans elected this year. Now is the time, and I fear it's the last chance any of us may have to turn this around


tl;dr
 
2012-08-15 07:58:30 PM

Hurley the Mushroom: The choice in this election couldn't be clearer.


You keep posting this same dumb copypasta. Don't you have any self-respect?
 
2012-08-15 07:58:48 PM

gimmegimme: After that, Kristen Bell and Mila Kunis will beg me to share a weekend of hardcore animal lovemaking during and after a private concert played by the reunited Beatles.

[thebosh.com image 700x704]

[img2.timeinc.net image 300x400]


24.media.tumblr.com
 
2012-08-15 07:59:58 PM

Hurley the Mushroom: free stuff


WTF????

I didn't get any free stuff.

Where is the free stuff?
 
2012-08-15 08:01:01 PM

malaktaus: Savage Belief: gimmegimme: After that, Kristen Bell and Mila Kunis will beg me to share a weekend of hardcore animal lovemaking during and after a private concert played by the reunited Beatles.

Are you including zombie George Harrison and zombie john Lennon?

You forgot zombie Paul McCartney.


Nan. He's going on tour with zombie Ringo soon.
 
2012-08-15 08:01:46 PM
I have many republican friends who aren't actually republicans. fark actaul republicans.
 
2012-08-15 08:02:08 PM
The only good thing I can think of from a Mitten's win is that the teabaggers and birthers will finally stfu and probably vanish overnight.
 
2012-08-15 08:02:16 PM

Hurley the Mushroom: It's Fantasyland vs. Realville.


So what does Romney plan to do about 30 years of stagnant wages for most people?
 
2012-08-15 08:04:34 PM

roger1: Cletus C.

It's hard to imagine Romney not winning a second term.

Romney has to clean up the Obama Farkin mess first, if he can't he is toast for a second term as well.

It is all about the jobs folks.


Hey, Rog, remember what I told you about the quote button.
 
2012-08-15 08:05:34 PM

WhyteRaven74: Hurley the Mushroom: It's Fantasyland vs. Realville.

So what does Romney plan to do about 30 years of stagnant wages for most people?


If wages are falling, then they aren't stagnant.
 
2012-08-15 08:07:40 PM

A Dark Evil Omen: Hurley the Mushroom: The choice in this election couldn't be clearer.

You keep posting this same dumb copypasta. Don't you have any self-respect?


You have to ask?
 
2012-08-15 08:08:37 PM

hubiestubert: Yes. And Arnold Schwarzenegger will defeat him. Arnold and Karl Rove will ride in to save the nation. Truly, it will be glorious to have President Arnold name Grover Norquist as Secretary of State...


Yea, verily.

Or as Arnold would say "GET INTO DE CAHBINET!"
 
2012-08-15 08:08:45 PM

Duke Phillips' Singing Bears: Let's say my aunt had balls. What would she be?


A Democrat. Republicans don't have balls.
 
2012-08-15 08:10:35 PM

Tor_Eckman: Hurley the Mushroom: free stuff

WTF????

I didn't get any free stuff.

Where is the free stuff?


You didn't get your cheap hippy floozy when Obama got elected? Guess you must have been registered Independent.

/I'm still waiting for my FEMA trailer and the squads of Lefties patrolling the streets
//If the Democrats are waiting until Obama's second term, I have a list of possible jailers I'd like to sign up for...
 
2012-08-15 08:11:25 PM

elchip: Hurley the Mushroom: The choice in this election couldn't be clearer.

You can either vote for Obama and keep getting free stuff from the government until it collapses under its own weight, hoping you won't be the parasite who finally kills the host, or you can vote for Romney and realize a lot of uncomfortable but necessary fiscal pain is coming the nation's way.

It's Fantasyland vs. Realville.

It's Economic Fantasy vs. Economic Reality.

In Economic Fantasy, the federal government has an infinite amount of money and resources to spend on anything it wants, and any life touched by government subsidy is happy and magical. Once someone starts getting subsidies, those subsidies can never go away because it will hurt someone. Thus all cuts, no matter how modest, are draconian because somebody's grandma will lose their livelihood.

In Economic Reality, we're the brokest nation in history, our government rewards sloth and apathy, and, newsflash young farkers: By the time you'd be eligible for all the government spending you think is good, proper, and necessary, the money for your benefits will have long run out. If you're 50 you have a prayer of being the last one grandfathered in. If you're 20 you're just delusional.

If you are 20 and you vote for a Democrat you are voting against your economic interests. Plain and simple. I don't care how progressive your values are, I don't care how much you feel morally or intellectually superior to social conservatives for your stances on gay marriage and abortion - if you vote for a Democrat you are voting for fiscal insolvency for which you will pay the tab, because by all estimates you are going to outlive the programs you feel are so vital. Democrats will not fix these programs. Democrats have not even offered a budget in four years - something they are constitutionally mandated to do. They are an unserious party for unserious times - this is not one of those times.

Romney and Ryan are not ideologues and to suggest they are ...


i28.photobucket.com

Did I rustle your jimmies?
 
2012-08-15 08:12:05 PM

propasaurus: Duke Phillips' Singing Bears: Let's say my aunt had balls. What would she be?

A Democrat. Republicans don't have balls.


Now, that's not fair. Plenty of Republicans have been caught with balls on their chin.
 
2012-08-15 08:18:07 PM
afridgefulloffood.typepad.com

Let's say this Twinkie represents the butthurt of the GOP when Obama was elected,
Now imagine the size this Twinkie will grow to when Obama is re-elected.
 
2012-08-15 08:20:58 PM
A black man winning the presidency? Get real.
 
2012-08-15 08:21:42 PM

Hurley the Mushroom: Did I rustle your jimmies?


Actually, you got called out for posting copypasta and you just practically admitted you're trolling the thread.

Time for a new login.
 
2012-08-15 08:22:23 PM

cretinbob: [afridgefulloffood.typepad.com image 350x185]

Let's say this Twinkie represents the butthurt of the GOP when Obama was elected,
Now imagine the size this Twinkie will grow to when Obama is re-elected.


That's a big Twinkie.
 
2012-08-15 08:23:48 PM
Obama loses narrowly. Romney remains unlikable.

The World Bank becomes insolvent after bailing out Greece, Portugal, Spain, and Ireland.

Subby begins dating Natalie Portman.

The Midwest suffers its worst corn harvest in over thirty years.

No new, compelling Democrat rises to power.


Fark.com stands alone.



/BOOBERINES
 
2012-08-15 08:29:39 PM
HURLEYTHEMISHROOM

You're a moran. The plans they want to institute would bankrupt the middle class at the expense of the rich. Don't tax the job creators? They've had the lowest tax rate they've seen for a century, and the result was the lowest job creation since the great depression. Want to cut entitlement programs? Fine. Let's start with corporate welfare. How about defense? Cuts that the military suggested were denied by congress. So your solution is to vote in more jackholes that would keep doing the same thing?

I'd go on but I have kids to feed.
 
2012-08-15 08:29:39 PM

tenpoundsofcheese: So can anyone tell me why I'm such a douche? Why must I rely on trolling politics threads to get attention? I mean, aside from the massive amounts of lead chips I ate as a child?


I don't know, dude. Maybe you were dropped on your head as a baby. Or (more likely), your mother drank and smoke a lot during her pregnancy.

/this is way more fun than actually responding to the troll
 
2012-08-15 08:29:54 PM

Hurley the Mushroom: You can either vote for Obama and keep getting free stuff from the government until it collapses under its own weight, hoping you won't be the parasite who finally kills the host, or you can vote for Romney and realize a lot of uncomfortable but necessary fiscal pain is coming the nation's way.


So tax cuts for the rich it is!
 
2012-08-15 08:31:28 PM

roger1: 4 Years of Total Obama Policy after Policy Failure will not be erased soon.


I'm honestly asking... what are people referring to when they say this?
 
2012-08-15 08:32:24 PM

dinch: HURLEYTHEMISHROOM

You're a moran. The plans they want to institute would bankrupt the middle class at the expense of the rich. Don't tax the job creators? They've had the lowest tax rate they've seen for a century, and the result was the lowest job creation since the great depression. Want to cut entitlement programs? Fine. Let's start with corporate welfare. How about defense? Cuts that the military suggested were denied by congress. So your solution is to vote in more jackholes that would keep doing the same thing?

I'd go on but I have kids to feed.


That's a statement I don't have the attention span to write out myself. Kudos.
 
2012-08-15 08:32:38 PM

Sock Ruh Tease: Republicans continue needing someone to hate. Obama continues being so hateable.

[media1.break.com image 600x418]


Thanks, I now have Little Green Bag stuck in my head.
 
2012-08-15 08:35:38 PM

cretinbob: [afridgefulloffood.typepad.com image 350x185]

Let's say this Twinkie represents the butthurt of the GOP when Obama was elected,
Now imagine the size this Twinkie will grow to when Obama is re-elected.


We're gonna need a LOT more powdered sugar up in this mug...
 
2012-08-15 08:50:05 PM

Old enough to know better: The only good thing I can think of from a Mitten's win is that the teabaggers and birthers will finally stfu and probably vanish overnight.


The birthers will go away. The Tea Party will begin their job getting rid of all the atheists/Muslims/gays/Hollywood types who are destroying the country God gave to white straight Christians. And I'm betting by 2016 they will have worked their way to dumping the Mormons and making Ryan the nominee.
 
2012-08-15 08:55:22 PM

cretinbob: [afridgefulloffood.typepad.com image 350x185]

Let's say this Twinkie represents the butthurt of the GOP when Obama was elected,
Now imagine the size this Twinkie will grow to when Obama is re-elected.


I really can't imagine it. The derp has been turned up to 11 for so long, I don't know how much further it can go.

Then again, I'm rational and I should not attempt to rationalize craziness.
 
2012-08-15 08:58:19 PM
I have a question for any Farkers here on if this is a "Commie" or "Fascist" link. When I submit links I don't know which to choose sometimes. The article would be fascist I think but the headline mocks the article so the headline is commie right? So which would you choose when submitting this? Commie or fascist? Thanks.
 
2012-08-15 09:03:58 PM

king of vegas: I have a question for any Farkers here on if this is a "Commie" or "Fascist" link. When I submit links I don't know which to choose sometimes. The article would be fascist I think but the headline mocks the article so the headline is commie right? So which would you choose when submitting this? Commie or fascist? Thanks.


I don't either, and I've seen discussions about this a few times with not many definitive answers. Maybe nobody knows. Maybe it's intentional, man.

Ask yourself... has anybody ever seen Drew Curtis and Mitt Romney at the same time?
 
2012-08-15 09:06:35 PM

king of vegas: I have a question for any Farkers here on if this is a "Commie" or "Fascist" link. When I submit links I don't know which to choose sometimes. The article would be fascist I think but the headline mocks the article so the headline is commie right? So which would you choose when submitting this? Commie or fascist? Thanks.


It's commie because anyone who is thinking about voting Obama this fall is a dirty Red/Kraut/Frenchie/Natzee because Socialism.
 
2012-08-15 09:11:06 PM
Yeah, who was phone?
 
2012-08-15 09:13:10 PM

Sock Ruh Tease: Lochsteppe: Lost Thought 00: It's cute that the NRO still thinks there will be an election. If they had bothered donating to Obama's campaign, they would have gotten the talking points email about the coup planned for October 27th, wherein Obama will dissolve Congress and install himself as Czar For Life.

Thanks for the reminder--just going over my course syllabuses for this fall. I'll need to make sure I don't make anything due the Monday after the coup.

You sound like an elitist college professor. I don't think the coup affects you.


Soon, but not yet. Only an elitist grad student right now. I just finished my coursework in Liberal Indoctrination and Socialist-Making* last spring, so I'm eager to try it out.

* I got an A...for Atheism.
 
2012-08-15 09:17:55 PM
whidbey

It's commie because anyone who is thinking about voting Obama this fall is a dirty Red/Kraut/Frenchie/Natzee because Socialism.

And don't forget, a watermelon man

/arriba!
 
2012-08-15 09:25:22 PM

tenpoundsofcheese: Run "again" in 2016?

I don't even see him running now.

All he is doing is complaining about Romney - he isn't running on his record or how he is actually going to have better results than his current term.

He said it himself, if the economy doesn't turn around, he will be a one termer.


That's probably why he is winning in every single legitimate electoral vote nose count, right?
 
2012-08-15 09:26:54 PM
I'm surprised this article doesn't suggest throwing Obama in jail after losing the next election just to be sure he doesn't. Or maybe the point of this is to get the comments to suggest they should, just in case.
 
2012-08-15 09:34:12 PM
I notice that no Republican seems to want to discuss the staggering number of swing states (which are now almost all leaning Obama) that Romney has to flip in order to win.
 
2012-08-15 09:37:31 PM

farkityfarker: I notice that no Republican seems to want to discuss the staggering number of swing states (which are now almost all leaning Obama) that Romney has to flip in order to win.


You're asking for a rational discussion with a GOP backer, in Fark? Brah

/they all left after '04
 
2012-08-15 09:44:33 PM
The derp is out is force. Wonder why?

/ elections are won at the polls.
Don't believe the hype. This isn't over. Vote for the POTUS.
 
2012-08-15 10:02:30 PM
Obama did tell the Russian Prime Minister "this is my last election".

Whether he meant win or lose, or just if he won, is hard to tell.

But if he loses, I doubt he would run again. Post-presidential life these days is extremely lucrative, even after just one term.
 
2012-08-15 10:03:21 PM

fenianfark: cretinbob: [afridgefulloffood.typepad.com image 350x185]

Let's say this Twinkie represents the butthurt of the GOP when Obama was elected,
Now imagine the size this Twinkie will grow to when Obama is re-elected.

I really can't imagine it. The derp has been turned up to 11 for so long, I don't know how much further it can go.

Then again, I'm rational and I should not attempt to rationalize craziness.


There's only one way to do that.
 
2012-08-15 10:05:56 PM

A Dark Evil Omen: Hurley the Mushroom: The choice in this election couldn't be clearer.

You keep posting this same dumb copypasta. Don't you have any self-respect?


Probably not, but he got an ignore from me.
 
2012-08-15 10:26:30 PM

tenpoundsofcheese: Run "again" in 2016?

I don't even see him running now.

All he is doing is complaining about Romney - he isn't running on his record or how he is actually going to have better results than his current term.

He said it himself, if the economy doesn't turn around, he will be a one termer.


You sound Tired.

img853.imageshack.us
 
2012-08-15 10:35:16 PM

elchip: I'm sorry, the correct answer is...


WHAT? THE CORRECT ANSWER IS WHAT?
 
2012-08-15 10:36:23 PM

cretinbob: [afridgefulloffood.typepad.com image 350x185]

Let's say this Twinkie represents the butthurt of the GOP when Obama was elected,
Now imagine the size this Twinkie will grow to when Obama is re-elected.


Why are you trying to depress me so?
 
2012-08-15 10:53:25 PM
Portman '16.

/with Subby promoting beer and bacon diets as First Farker
 
2012-08-15 10:57:05 PM

roger1: Cletus C.

It's hard to imagine Romney not winning a second term.

Romney has to clean up the Obama Farkin mess first, if he can't he is toast for a second term as well.

It is all about the jobs ignore button folks.


Let me introduce you to mine!
 
2012-08-15 11:06:43 PM
we could win this time with Obama. Few people know he still has just more than 22 days to drop Vice Presidential Joe Biden from the 2012 Democratic presidential ticket, according to lawyers familiar with the party nominating process.


Just sayin'

I mean, Joe needs some rest... and medication.
 
2012-08-15 11:32:25 PM

Duke Phillips' Singing Bears: Let's say my aunt had balls. What would she be?


Pre-op or post-op?
 
2012-08-15 11:53:18 PM

bookelly: Omahawg: bookelly: Uh...these guys are trying to take over the country and turn us back to 1950. Anyone else a little scared by this?

As a country and as a planet, we need to completely obliterate these crazies this fall.

1950? full of liberals and high taxes on job creators. even the GOP had a liberal wing! I think they are shooting for 1890.

You are correct. I meant 1450.


Torquemada For VP!
 
2012-08-15 11:56:20 PM

El Morro: tenpoundsofcheese: So can anyone tell me why I'm such a douche? Why must I rely on trolling politics threads to get attention? I mean, aside from the massive amounts of lead chips I ate as a child?

I don't know, dude. Maybe you were dropped on your head as a baby. Or (more likely), your mother drank and smoke a lot during her pregnancy.

/this is way more fun than actually responding to the troll


He's being paid to do this. He admitted he was being paid. We need to cut his paycheck just a little bit, dontcha think, and let him go live by the wits of his bootstraps like he's always preaching here.
 
2012-08-16 12:43:08 AM

Gyrfalcon: El Morro: tenpoundsofcheese: So can anyone tell me why I'm such a douche? Why must I rely on trolling politics threads to get attention? I mean, aside from the massive amounts of lead chips I ate as a child?

I don't know, dude. Maybe you were dropped on your head as a baby. Or (more likely), your mother drank and smoke a lot during her pregnancy.

/this is way more fun than actually responding to the troll

He's being paid to do this. He admitted he was being paid. We need to cut his paycheck just a little bit, dontcha think, and let him go live by the wits of his bootstraps like he's always preaching here.


Why isn't everyone ignoring that assclown?
 
2012-08-16 12:46:27 AM
beta_plus (farkied: Farkied in red. Ought to be brown.): Democrat Party

DRINK!
 
2012-08-16 12:54:15 AM
Damn, did Obama give NRO his bizarro time machine?
 
2012-08-16 01:03:02 AM

netcentric: we could win this time with Obama. Few people know he still has just more than 22 days to drop Vice Presidential Joe Biden from the 2012 Democratic presidential ticket, according to lawyers familiar with the party nominating process.


Wat? Is this something Rush Limbaugh is pushing? Second time today someone says Biden should leave.
 
2012-08-16 01:08:10 AM

themindiswatching: netcentric: we could win this time with Obama. Few people know he still has just more than 22 days to drop Vice Presidential Joe Biden from the 2012 Democratic presidential ticket, according to lawyers familiar with the party nominating process.

Wat? Is this something Rush Limbaugh is pushing? Second time today someone says Biden should leave.


It's become rather the official talking point since Ryan was announced. It's concern trolling, but the Romney camp can't match Obama for trolling. The gist is that Ryan is so SMRT and srs that Ol' Dumb Joe just can't hold his own against the brilliance of Ryan. So, better to just get rid of Joe now, dontchathink, before he embarrasses us and himself facing the Ryan debate whirlwind. They're just concerned is all.
 
2012-08-16 01:35:51 AM
"Reader, suppose you were an idiot. And suppose you were a member of Congress. But I repeat myself." -- Mark Twain
 
2012-08-16 01:45:31 AM
He won't/can't be elected in 2016 because no one's allowed to serve three terms anymore
 
2012-08-16 02:33:21 AM

Hurley the Mushroom: It's Fantasyland vs. Realville.

It's Economic Fantasy vs. Economic Reality.


To borrow from an image I saw on Facebook earlier, 'America is NOT broke, America is being robbed.'

Your entire post is a collection of falsehoods.
 
2012-08-16 02:33:56 AM
Amerika is dead.

get used to it.
 
2012-08-16 03:05:28 AM

davynelson: Amerika is dead.

get used to it.


Long live Amercia.
 
2012-08-16 03:36:32 AM

Hurley the Mushroom: If you are 20 and you vote for a Democrat you are voting against your economic interests. Plain and simple. I don't care how progressive your values are, I don't care how much you feel morally or intellectually superior to social conservatives for your stances on gay marriage and abortion


I'd rather the farking country go bankrupt than reverse 20 years of progress on human rights and get involved in more wars.

I don't care how much of a fiscal conservative the lying, greedy sonofabiatch is. Social conservatives are evil.
 
2012-08-16 03:39:47 AM

TsukasaK: Hurley the Mushroom: If you are 20 and you vote for a Democrat you are voting against your economic interests. Plain and simple. I don't care how progressive your values are, I don't care how much you feel morally or intellectually superior to social conservatives for your stances on gay marriage and abortion

I'd rather the farking country go bankrupt than reverse 20 years of progress on human rights and get involved in more wars.

I don't care how much of a fiscal conservative the lying, greedy sonofabiatch is. Social conservatives are evil.


Republicans are not fiscal conservatives. They just give the wealthy more money, and let the country crumble away.
 
2012-08-16 07:39:48 AM

WhyteRaven74: Hurley the Mushroom: It's Fantasyland vs. Realville.

So what does Romney plan to do about 30 years of stagnant wages for most people?


Stagnant wages arent a problem when the government keeps destroying the currency which spikes prices in energy, rents and cost of living, all things which affect poor and middle income people the most.
 
2012-08-16 07:52:44 AM

Raharu: tenpoundsofcheese: Run "again" in 2016?

I don't even see him running now.

All he is doing is complaining about Romney - he isn't running on his record or how he is actually going to have better results than his current term.

He said it himself, if the economy doesn't turn around, he will be a one termer.

You sound Tired.

[img853.imageshack.us image 720x477]


- The recession is not over. We havent yet gotten out of it 4 years later
- the "job growth" we're experiencing is right on pace with what we naturally need to replace retiring workers, which is about 60-80,000 workers per month. There's no growth in the job market hence the
- Unemployment rate going up, despite promises that the stimulus would take it to 5.5% I guess 8.3 is the new 5.5
- the DJIA is doing awesome! Great for wall street I suppose and those who have major positions in those companies. Realize that most of those gains are on paper
- GM and Chrysler are not profitable, or they are at the expense of 24Bn in taxpayer money. They wouldn't be profitable without taxpayer subsidies and they wouldn't be profitable without fleet purchases from the government. There's also the accounting tricks where GM national counts vehicle sales when they deliver them to the dealer regardless of whether or not the dealer has actually sold them or not.
- As long as there's an embassy with 30,000 employees in Iraq the war isn't over. The president has the ability to stroke his finger and get out of the wars tomorrow and hasn't done so.
- OBL is dead and I dont think there's a president out there who wouldn't have made that call. Still, I give Obama major props for continuing the intel programs left for him by the Bush administration when it would have been easy for him to dismantle them or install his own people.

When you run on "you broke this economy and I can fix it" and 4 years later you havent fixed it, the answer isn't "But I didn't break it, you did!"
 
2012-08-16 08:01:24 AM

o5iiawah: - The recession is not over. We havent yet gotten out of it 4 years later
- the "job growth" we're experiencing is right on pace with what we naturally need to replace retiring workers, which is about 60-80,000 workers per month. There's no growth in the job market hence the
- Unemployment rate going up, despite promises that the stimulus would take it to 5.5% I guess 8.3 is the new 5.5


You're right, Republican obstructionism does suck.

o5iiawah: Still, I give Obama major props for continuing the intel programs left for him by the Bush administration when it would have been easy for him to dismantle them or install his own people


These intel programs, were they enacted before or after Bush said he didn't care about finding bin Laden?

As for Iraq, there's always going to be an embassy there. The war is about as over as it's going to get. We have thousands of troops in Japan, are we at war wit them? If McCain had won not only would we still be in Iraq but probably Syria and Iran as well, assuming the stress wouldn't have killed him by now and we'd have that potato head with her finger on the button.
 
2012-08-16 09:05:48 AM
The answer is yes. He will still be on the run in 2016.

The throngs of pitchfork wielding Americans chasing him will not cease until justice has been served.
 
2012-08-16 09:51:50 AM
and lets say she will commit herself to satisfying my every desire with no thought for herself.

img515.imageshack.us 

and lets say people will take more responsibility for themselves and their actions instead of selling their vote to whomever promises them the most "free stuff" or more of other people's money.
 
2012-08-16 10:12:10 AM

hasty ambush: and lets say she will commit herself to satisfying my every desire with no thought for herself.

[img515.imageshack.us image 427x640] 

and lets say people will take more responsibility for themselves and their actions instead of selling their vote to whomever promises them the most "free stuff" or more of other people's money.


Do we have a name for her ?
 
2012-08-16 10:41:17 AM

hasty ambush: and lets say people will take more responsibility for themselves and their actions instead of selling their vote to whomever promises them the most "free stuff" or more of other people's money.


You're right. the republicans are selfish assholes.
 
2012-08-16 11:17:46 AM

Auggie: hasty ambush: and lets say she will commit herself to satisfying my every desire with no thought for herself.

[img515.imageshack.us image 427x640] , Clare Grant

and lets say people will take more responsibility for themselves and their actions instead of selling their vote to whomever promises them the most "free stuff" or more of other people's money.

Do we have a name for her ?


I wish but if I knew it I would probably share it. Just like the sex tape I made with Jessica Alba, Olivia Wilde and Scarlett Johansson I would keep it private
 
2012-08-16 01:39:43 PM

hasty ambush: and lets say she will commit herself to satisfying my every desire with no thought for herself.

[img515.imageshack.us image 427x640] 

and lets say people will take more responsibility for themselves and their actions instead of selling their vote to whomever promises them the most "free stuff" or more of other people's money.


Where did those boobs come from? Tell me!
 
2012-08-16 01:47:38 PM

roger1: Wow

Dems now going from full panic mode to full wish mode. 4 Years of Total Obama Policy after Policy Failure will not be erased soon.


i47.photobucket.com
 
2012-08-16 01:49:48 PM

Leeds: The answer is yes. He will still be on the run in 2016.

The throngs of pitchfork wielding Americans chasing him will not cease until justice has been served.


Pathetic. Plonk!
 
2012-08-16 02:08:08 PM
A depiction of how someone becomes a retarded, frothing, raging mouth-breather.

First...

old.post-gazette.com

Served to the weak-minded via a bloviating parasite...

grantjkidney.com

And invading your home 24/7 with admitted bias, outright lies, and opinion thinly disguised as "journalism"...

cloudfront.mediamatters.org

And you get this....

elchip: Hurley the Mushroom: The choice in this election couldn't be clearer.

You can either vote for Obama and keep getting free stuff from the government until it collapses under its own weight, hoping you won't be the parasite who finally kills the host, or you can vote for Romney and realize a lot of uncomfortable but necessary fiscal pain is coming the nation's way.

It's Fantasyland vs. Realville.

It's Economic Fantasy vs. Economic Reality.

In Economic Fantasy, the federal government has an infinite amount of money and resources to spend on anything it wants, and any life touched by government subsidy is happy and magical. Once someone starts getting subsidies, those subsidies can never go away because it will hurt someone. Thus all cuts, no matter how modest, are draconian because somebody's grandma will lose their livelihood.

In Economic Reality, we're the brokest nation in history, our government rewards sloth and apathy, and, newsflash young farkers: By the time you'd be eligible for all the government spending you think is good, proper, and necessary, the money for your benefits will have long run out. If you're 50 you have a prayer of being the last one grandfathered in. If you're 20 you're just delusional.


Once the brainwashing and indoctrination is complete, you get everything after. Or, to put it in simpler pictorial terms, a weak-minded and easily manipulated citizen has been run through the GOP indoctrination machine and comes out like this...

mokellyreport.files.wordpress.com

And over a long enough timeline, the rest of us who have a brain and watch this pathetic puppet show day in and day out can't help but feel like...

24.media.tumblr.com

fin
 
2012-08-16 03:41:20 PM

Fry's 100th Cup of Coffee: A depiction of how someone becomes a retarded, frothing, raging mouth-breather.


Nicely done.
 
2012-08-16 08:43:02 PM

Mugato: These intel programs, were they enacted before or after Bush said he didn't care about finding bin Laden?


The intel apparatus was actually in place long before 9/11 even started and ratcheted up shortly after that. Radical islam was on our radar (see: Ramzi Yousef) What Bush may or may not have said in an out of context sound byte doesn't detract from the fact that the intel apparatus under his and Obama's administration is largely responsible for the apprehension and execution of OBL.

Yes, that includes waterboarding, which produced the name of the package boy who was later pitched and turned by a CIA operative. Such information and the means by which it was acquired was even acknowledged by Leon Panetta as valuable to the operation.

You're right, Republican obstructionism does suck.

What obstructionism are you talking about? This over-used talking point needs to die a slow death. Obama had unlimited political capital in his first 2 terms and whatever he wanted was passed by the congress. Last time I checked, there were 30 or so job programs on the floor of the senate which Reid has refused to even put to a vote. The Keystone pipeline was 86'ed and although the true numbers are debatable, it would have created some jobs. What Obama hasn't managed to get through congress, he's simply signed via executive order.

You forgot that he had a blank check in 2009-2011 and had congress in his pocket.
 
2012-08-16 11:22:56 PM

dinch: tenpoundsofcheese: Run "again" in 2016?

I don't even see him running now.

All he is doing is complaining about Romney - he isn't running on his record or how he is actually going to have better results than his current term.

He said it himself, if the economy doesn't turn around, he will be a one termer.

What exactly is Romney running on? Other tha "Obama bad!" of course.


You're arguing with a lump of cheese. It's best ignored.
 
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