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(Talking Points Memo)   Police: Shooter outside of Family Research Council is in custody, no motive has been established. Fox: Shooter was clearly upset at FRC's conservative stances   (tpmmuckraker.talkingpointsmemo.com) divider line 398
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2012-08-15 02:05:15 PM
Farking douchebags.
 
2012-08-15 02:07:57 PM

Grand_Moff_Joseph: Farking douchebags.


To be fair, there have been several reports that the gunman was arguing politics before the shooting.
 
2012-08-15 02:08:59 PM
"FRC" trending on Twitter right now is unhinged.

They're claiming the shooter had a Chick-fil-a bag and said it was for what the FRC stands for.
 
2012-08-15 02:10:46 PM

JerseyTim: "FRC" trending on Twitter right now is unhinged.

They're claiming the shooter had a Chick-fil-a bag and said it was for what the FRC stands for.


You mean, marginal fast food chicken?
 
2012-08-15 02:11:21 PM

vartian: Grand_Moff_Joseph: Farking douchebags.

To be fair, there have been several reports that the gunman was arguing politics before the shooting.


My point was for the media to let the police do their damn jobs, then report what is going on. We had the same crap with the Trayvon case. Everyone tried reporting the story, uncovering the truth and holding a trial before the scene had even been processed.
 
2012-08-15 02:11:49 PM
I'm just glad the Right can instantly use this against the whole Left; I hated that whole "let's not rush to judgement" thing after the Sikh temple massacre.
 
2012-08-15 02:12:08 PM
I've had to say this with heartbreaking frequency lately:

HEY MAYBE WE SHOULD DO SOMETHING ABOUT OUR MENTAL HEALTH SERVICES IN THIS COUNTRY
 
2012-08-15 02:13:26 PM
LET THE SPECULATION BEGIN!
 
2012-08-15 02:14:27 PM

what_now: I've had to say this with heartbreaking frequency lately:

HEY MAYBE WE SHOULD DO SOMETHING ABOUT OUR MENTAL HEALTH SERVICES IN THIS COUNTRY


THIS IS NOT THE TIME TO TALK ABOUT WAYS TO CURB GUN VIOLENCE.

There must be a minimum of one month between public shoot-outs and mass murders before that conversation can start. Sorry, NRA rules.
 
2012-08-15 02:16:35 PM

Aarontology: LET THE SPECULATION BEGIN!


I speculate that the guy actually WAS a crazy lefty (with a gun) and that the attack will be referenced weekly on Fox for the forseeable future, while their anchors ridicule people who mention other attacks (like alcoholic skinheads shooting up Sikhs), because THOSE are isolated incidents.
 
2012-08-15 02:16:43 PM

BunkoSquad: I'm just glad the Right can instantly use this against the whole Left; I hated that whole "let's not rush to judgement" thing after the Sikh temple massacre.


To be fair, a lot of people (understandably) assumed racism was a motivation in that one. I don't think it's unfair to wonder if the shooter targeted the FRC for their political affiliations.
 
2012-08-15 02:16:43 PM
LET THE SPECULATION BEGIN!

www.pinreach.com
 
2012-08-15 02:16:47 PM

kingoomieiii: what_now: I've had to say this with heartbreaking frequency lately:

HEY MAYBE WE SHOULD DO SOMETHING ABOUT OUR MENTAL HEALTH SERVICES IN THIS COUNTRY

THIS IS NOT THE TIME TO TALK ABOUT WAYS TO CURB GUN VIOLENCE.

There must be a minimum of one month between public shoot-outs and mass murders before that conversation can start. Sorry, NRA rules.


Yeah, but it is the time to TALK ABOUT OUR MENTAL HEALTH FACILITIES.

Non-Crazy people don't start shooting at random buildings.
 
2012-08-15 02:18:13 PM

kingoomieiii: Aarontology: LET THE SPECULATION BEGIN!

I speculate that the guy actually WAS a crazy lefty (with a gun) and that the attack will be referenced weekly on Fox for the forseeable future, while their anchors ridicule people who mention other attacks (like alcoholic skinheads shooting up Sikhs), because THOSE are isolated incidents.


Just another one of FartBongo's anti-tradition thugs out to ruin America!
 
2012-08-15 02:21:38 PM

what_now: HEY MAYBE WE SHOULD DO SOMETHING ABOUT OUR MENTAL HEALTH SERVICES IN THIS COUNTRY


So much this. I mean, it'd be next to impossible to find every lone nutjob before the voices in his head convince him to pick up a gun and go make a statement.

But come on - the PACs with the word family in them are whole buildings filled with crazy sauce. You can probably see spider-man stink lines of crazy coming out of the windows as you drive past. Why didn't the health department clean that place up years ago?
 
2012-08-15 02:24:15 PM
I feel like this is a totally inappropriate time to point out the Family Research Council has existed for 19 years and has never, not once, done anything good.

However, you know, don't farking shoot people.

what_now: Yeah, but it is the time to TALK ABOUT OUR MENTAL HEALTH FACILITIES.


Whoa now. That might* keep guns out of the hands of Real Americans who are only SLIGHTLY crazy, but not DANGEROUSLY crazy!** Therefore everyone can have guns.
The moment we let the government decide who can have guns, we'll go back in time to the 1700s and onward to the modern day. We can't have that.

*If it's a possibility in my brain, then it's a huge risk
**Not to mention Dangerously Cheesy
 
2012-08-15 02:25:11 PM
 
2012-08-15 02:30:57 PM

kingoomieiii: Whoa now. That might* keep guns out of the hands of Real Americans who are only SLIGHTLY crazy, but not DANGEROUSLY crazy!** Therefore everyone can have guns.
The moment we let the government decide who can have guns, we'll go back in time to the 1700s and onward to the modern day. We can't have that.


We wouldn't go quite that far back.

www.stoneleafpress.com
 
2012-08-15 02:39:30 PM

kingoomieiii: I speculate that the guy actually WAS a crazy lefty (with a gun)


Most likely. It seems that a conservative or libertarian would gotten in enough target practice beforehand to have done more than just shooting the security guard in the arm.
 
vpb [TotalFark]
2012-08-15 02:40:53 PM
two FBI officials cautioned reporters that early eyewitness Fox accounts are often inaccurate
 
vpb [TotalFark]
2012-08-15 02:46:38 PM
It was probably a crazy tea bagger angry they they aren't far enough to the right.
 
2012-08-15 02:47:42 PM

kingoomieiii: what_now: I've had to say this with heartbreaking frequency lately:

HEY MAYBE WE SHOULD DO SOMETHING ABOUT OUR MENTAL HEALTH SERVICES IN THIS COUNTRY

THIS IS NOT THE TIME TO TALK ABOUT WAYS TO CURB GUN VIOLENCE.

There must be a minimum of one month between public shoot-outs and mass murders before that conversation can start. Sorry, NRA rules.


Also, any time when it is more than one month from a shooting like this, which apparently doesn't happen anymore, is a clear attempt to distract from real issues and should be ignored.

The NRA hawks have no intent on discussing the needless deaths they claim are proof of freedom.
 
2012-08-15 02:49:11 PM

vpb: It was probably a crazy tea bagger angry they they aren't far enough to the right.


Dangit! You beat me to it!
 
2012-08-15 02:50:17 PM
...so whatever happened to "wait and see, we can't know the shooter's political motives, "ghoulish" use of gun violence as a political football, mainstream media gun-jumping (heh), isolated incidents, and lone nuts?
 
2012-08-15 02:50:26 PM
ALL LIBERALS ARE VIOLENT LUNATICS WHO HATE GUNS, YET USE THEM WITH IMPUNITY TO MURDER THEIR POLITICAL ENEMIES.
 
2012-08-15 02:50:55 PM
Yeah, cuz if some guy shot a guard outside Planned Parenthood NOBODY would be screaming "Tea Bagger!!"

Grow up - all new media speculates.
 
2012-08-15 02:50:57 PM
Wow, an actual possible left wing guy shooting at a conservative place.

I should go buy a lottery ticket today, this is a such a farkin rare occurrence!
 
2012-08-15 02:51:30 PM
The guard likely threatened him and he had to stand his ground. I predict no charges, and a float at the NRA day parade.
 
2012-08-15 02:51:50 PM

what_now: HEY MAYBE WE SHOULD DO SOMETHING ABOUT OUR MENTAL HEALTH SERVICES IN THIS COUNTRY


That's just crazy talk.
 
2012-08-15 02:52:36 PM
I just hope the FRC will feel the spirit of God as dildo in this time of a loss.
 
vpb [TotalFark]
2012-08-15 02:52:56 PM

that bosnian sniper: ...so whatever happened to "wait and see, we can't know the shooter's political motives, "ghoulish" use of gun violence as a political football, mainstream media gun-jumping (heh), isolated incidents, and lone nuts?


Well, he is a "blah" person, so that doesn't apply.
Link

Oh, and in before the NRA types get here to say that we need more people to carry guns.
 
2012-08-15 02:53:34 PM
Oh, and I second what_now's suggestion.

Let's fix our overburdened and underfunded mental health system. We won't catch them all, but we'll help a lot of people.
 
2012-08-15 02:53:45 PM
I trust the conservative crowd will come rushing in to condemn this man as an unhinged lone nut whose politics aren't even up for consideration.
 
2012-08-15 02:54:38 PM

meat0918: Wow, an actual possible left wing guy shooting at a conservative place.

I should go buy a lottery ticket today, this is a such a farkin rare occurrence!


God I hope it's not. It doesn't matter how much right wing violence there is, this will be used by the right as a bloody shirt for decades.
 
2012-08-15 02:54:44 PM

vartian: Grand_Moff_Joseph: Farking douchebags.

To be fair, there have been several reports that the gunman was arguing politics before the shooting.


Wow. Some of the comments there wouldn't be out of place on Free Republic or Fox except that its the LGBT community saying, "It's about time!"
 
2012-08-15 02:54:56 PM
It must have been a winger. The only thing Drudge has up right now is "security guard shot in arm"

If it had been a liberal, there would be a flashing headline "BLOODY MASSACRE in DC!!!"
 
2012-08-15 02:55:27 PM

Grand_Moff_Joseph: vartian: Grand_Moff_Joseph: Farking douchebags.

To be fair, there have been several reports that the gunman was arguing politics before the shooting.

My point was for the media to let the police do their damn jobs, then report what is going on. We had the same crap with the Trayvon case. Everyone tried reporting the story, uncovering the truth and holding a trial before the scene had even been processed.


Fark had no problem with that, 99.95% of the people here still support that coverage.
 
2012-08-15 02:55:32 PM
My money is still on conservative nutjob who hates FRC because they aren't conservative enough. Sure, could be liberal with a gun. But probably still conservative. When you sow extremism, you reap extremism.
 
2012-08-15 02:55:49 PM

vpb: that bosnian sniper: ...so whatever happened to "wait and see, we can't know the shooter's political motives, "ghoulish" use of gun violence as a political football, mainstream media gun-jumping (heh), isolated incidents, and lone nuts?

Well, he is a "blah" person, so that doesn't apply.
Link

Oh, and in before the NRA types get here to say that we need more people to carry guns.


Since it's white people who normally do this sort of shooting, I'm going to go with him being a crazy person.
 
2012-08-15 02:55:50 PM
CNN reporting shooter is Paul Ryan. Details still sketchy.
 
2012-08-15 02:56:28 PM
FBI officials cautioned reporters that early eyewitness accounts are often inaccurate.

So will later eyewitness accounts be more accurate?
 
2012-08-15 02:56:56 PM

what_now: I've had to say this with heartbreaking frequency lately:

HEY MAYBE WE SHOULD DO SOMETHING ABOUT OUR MENTAL HEALTH SERVICES IN THIS COUNTRY

 
2012-08-15 02:57:06 PM
Hmm, I just love being part of the tolerant left. Now...where's my gun?
 
2012-08-15 02:57:10 PM
If a pedophile goes on a shooting rampage will said shooter have divided by zero?
 
2012-08-15 02:57:44 PM

DarnoKonrad: meat0918: Wow, an actual possible left wing guy shooting at a conservative place.

I should go buy a lottery ticket today, this is a such a farkin rare occurrence!

God I hope it's not. It doesn't matter how much right wing violence there is, this will be used by the right as a bloody shirt for decades.


It's already done. They'll use this for decades regardless of outcome.

Shiat is escalating faster than I though. It's starting to make me a bit paranoid.
 
2012-08-15 02:57:53 PM

vpb: It was probably a crazy tea bagger angry they they aren't far enough to the right.


Wrong. It's probably an Obamabot angry that a lot of voter fraud is not going to be allowed in Pennsylvania.

amidoingitrite?
 
2012-08-15 02:58:38 PM
Were communists and George Soros involved?
 
2012-08-15 02:59:13 PM

rynthetyn: vpb: that bosnian sniper: ...so whatever happened to "wait and see, we can't know the shooter's political motives, "ghoulish" use of gun violence as a political football, mainstream media gun-jumping (heh), isolated incidents, and lone nuts?

Well, he is a "blah" person, so that doesn't apply.
Link

Oh, and in before the NRA types get here to say that we need more people to carry guns.

Since it's white people who normally do this sort of shooting, I'm going to go with him being a crazy person.


Fox News: Hero guard shot thwarting attack at Family Research Council HQ.
 
2012-08-15 02:59:36 PM
Is this the thread where we can finally discuss the Texas A&M shooter's infaturation with guns, the Tea Party, Glenn Beck et al?

Oh, no? Well, then, is this the thread where we can finally discuss one of the constituents of Rep. Joe Walsh (R-eally, the check will come this month, honey!) shooting up a mosque after the congressmen warned of the evil muslins out to kill 'murkans?

How silly! I forget it's not the non-stop hateful, insurrectionist rhetoric of the right that causes a few crazies who were already crazyin the first place to do something crazy. It's Obama's fault.
 
2012-08-15 02:59:55 PM
Well, the freepers claim that leftists have no guns and would not know how to use them if they did; would the freepers lie?
 
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