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(ABC)   "Obama's campaign strategy is to smash America apart and if an American president wins that way, we all lose" says Mitt Romney, a member of the party that caused last year's triple-A rating downgrade just to screw the president   (abcnews.go.com) divider line 274
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2012-08-15 02:43:24 PM  
Next speech, he's going to say that rapists are the real rape victims, and those sluts should stop dressing so sexy if they don't want it.
 
2012-08-15 02:44:26 PM  
"Governor Romney's comments tonight seemed unhinged, and particularly strange coming at a time when he's pouring tens of millions of dollars into negative ads that are demonstrably false," said Obama spokesman Ben LaBolt.

Well put.
 
2012-08-15 02:45:17 PM  
Good luck with that Mitt. By tomorrow you'll be saying that Obama wants to hold the nation back by convicting criminals and deporting folks at a record rate.
 
2012-08-15 02:45:44 PM  
"If elected President, my first act will be the kill the whole lot of you!! And burn your country to cinders!!"
 
2012-08-15 02:45:49 PM  
"The GOP is the party of inclusion, not division! We don't constantly rail on and on about how liberals are going to kill us all or how gays are evil or how women that use birth control are sluts or...okay...nobody's going to buy this. Let's work on a different talking point, guys."
 
2012-08-15 02:46:52 PM  

hubiestubert: Good luck with that Mitt. By tomorrow you'll be saying that Obama wants to hold the nation back by convicting criminals and deporting folks at a record rate.


And let's not forget, he's aiding terrorists by killing people like Osama Bin Laden and Muammar Qaddafi
 
2012-08-15 02:47:29 PM  
Remember like two days ago when Romney claimed he wanted a clean campaign on the issues and not a negative mudslinging brawl?

Good times.
 
2012-08-15 02:49:21 PM  
All the Democrats had to do was vote for Vice President Ryan's budget. A budget that the GOP would have said was too liberal 0.1 milliseconds after the Democrats agreed to it and why did the Democrats vote to destroy Medicare we would never have voted for something like that.
 
2012-08-15 02:49:48 PM  

Quasar: Remember like two days ago when Romney claimed he wanted a clean campaign on the issues and not a negative mudslinging brawl?


Live in the NOW man! Get with the times!
 
2012-08-15 02:50:30 PM  

Quasar: Remember like two days ago when Romney claimed he wanted a clean campaign on the issues and not a negative mudslinging brawl?

Good times.


OBAMA CUT JAMES EVANS'S BRAKES!

DAMN DAMN DAMN!

listentoleon.net
 
2012-08-15 02:51:52 PM  
Reps shot the credit rating to screw the POTUS? How about the out of control spending that was going on at the time by the White House. This is why Obama will not run on his record. It stinks!
 
2012-08-15 02:52:05 PM  

FirstNationalBastard: hubiestubert: Good luck with that Mitt. By tomorrow you'll be saying that Obama wants to hold the nation back by convicting criminals and deporting folks at a record rate.

And let's not forget, he's aiding terrorists by killing people like Osama Bin Laden and Muammar Qaddafi


Not to mention destroying jobs in the arms industry
 
2012-08-15 02:52:53 PM  
Obama's campaign strategy is to blah blah blah

Romney's campaign strategy is apparently to run such a visibly clusterfark of a campaign, that people feel sorry for him and give him a sympathy vote.
 
2012-08-15 02:54:13 PM  
"Angry Black Man."
 
2012-08-15 02:55:42 PM  

FirstNationalBastard: hubiestubert: Good luck with that Mitt. By tomorrow you'll be saying that Obama wants to hold the nation back by convicting criminals and deporting folks at a record rate.

And let's not forget, he's aiding terrorists by killing people like Osama Bin Laden and Muammar Qaddafi


HIS POLICES KEEP ADVANCING TERRORISTS TO THE NUMBER TWO SLOT!
 
2012-08-15 02:55:57 PM  

EnviroDude: Reps shot the credit rating to screw the POTUS? How about the out of control spending that was going on at the time by the White House. This is why Obama will not run on his record. It stinks!


Stop spending my grandchild(ren)'s money by attacking countries that were never a threat to us.
 
2012-08-15 02:58:08 PM  

EnviroDude: Reps shot the credit rating to screw the POTUS? How about the out of control spending that was going on at the time by the White House. This is why Obama will not run on his record. It stinks!


i1.kym-cdn.com
 
2012-08-15 02:58:15 PM  
www.overthinkingit.com

President Barack Obama campaigns in Mongo for the destruction of Earth.
 
2012-08-15 03:01:20 PM  

EnviroDude: Reps shot the credit rating to screw the POTUS? How about the out of control spending that was going on at the time by the White House. This is why Obama will not run on his record. It stinks!


is that why Romney is running on HIS record? Oh wait, we aren't allowed to talk about his time at Bain or his time as Governor of Massachusetts. What IS Romney running on, other than "I'm not Obama"?
 
2012-08-15 03:02:38 PM  

EnviroDude: Reps shot the credit rating to screw the POTUS? How about the out of control spending that was going on at the time by the White House. This is why Obama will not run on his record. It stinks!


THE WHITE HOUSE DOES NOT APPROPRIATE FOR FARK SAKE. CONGRESS DOES. And, the current huge deficits are more attributable to a loss of tax revenue from the economic downturn than to any spending that was done. The only thing that Obama can be accountable for is the stimulus package which was a necessary step to avoid a depression.

And when does Romney start running on his record? He won't provide details on any of his plans but just asks us to trust him. Why would anyone trust Mitt?
 
vpb [TotalFark]
2012-08-15 03:02:42 PM  

EnviroDude: Reps shot the credit rating to screw the POTUS? How about the out of control spending that was going on at the time by the White House. This is why Obama will not run on his record. It stinks!


The part that exists in your sick twisted mind does. The idea that Republicans are "anti-spending" is simply laughable.
 
2012-08-15 03:05:03 PM  

EnviroDude: Reps shot the credit rating to screw the POTUS? How about the out of control spending that was going on at the time by the White House. This is why Obama will not run on his record. It stinks!


i194.photobucket.com
 
2012-08-15 03:05:44 PM  
"President Fart is so out of touch with normal Americans that he can't even recognize a donut." -Romney campaign.
 
2012-08-15 03:06:49 PM  

ManateeGag: What IS Romney running on, other than "I'm not Obama"?


Saving the Mormon Olympics.

With federal money.
 
2012-08-15 03:10:58 PM  
Why do you people constantly give attention to thread-shiatting attention whores?
 
2012-08-15 03:11:44 PM  
Romney upset the campaign for the illegitimate gay atheist Muslim elitist Kenyan Nazi Marxist Socialist Communist Chicago thug usurper dictator is being too divisive.

Neato.
 
2012-08-15 03:15:25 PM  

FirstNationalBastard: hubiestubert: Good luck with that Mitt. By tomorrow you'll be saying that Obama wants to hold the nation back by convicting criminals and deporting folks at a record rate.

And let's not forget, he's aiding terrorists by killing people like Osama Bin Laden and Muammar Qaddafi


*facepalm*
 
2012-08-15 03:16:32 PM  
You can always tell when they do the internal polling and tell the candidate he's got zero chance to win and they start to freak the f*ck out and start lashing out. For the McCain/Palin campaign, this happened in late Sept 2008. Looks like Romney saw the polling this week.
 
2012-08-15 03:23:23 PM  
Classic Rovian strategy: accuse the other guy of doing the opposite of whatever good thing he's doing, or whatever bad thing you're doing, which in this case is the same thing.
 
2012-08-15 03:23:24 PM  
I can't believe the nerve of Obama/Biden. Is there no low they won't stoop to? Last election, they accused McCain of being an old slowpoke or Palin of building a bridge to nowhere, but now that they're in office, they're terrible at everything. They're worse than Donald Rumsfeld. Rummy knew you have to go to war with the army you have, not the one you wish you had. Now, they're back in campaign mode, trying to gin up support among his fans, a bigger cult of personality than Mao ever had. But even liberals know in their heart of hearts that the debt is so big you have to stop kicking the can. A start is the sensible reform of Medicare advocated by Ryan, who they're making out to be a giant asshole. Well I call bullshiat. No matter how much they attack, Democrats are losing states in spades. Romney is making them fight for every electoral vote, from the 55 in California to the 1 in Omaha, and they're within spitting distance. For all Americans, whether they're in the crib, aged like a fine wine, or 21 and just out of college, Mitt Romney is the right choice for President.
 
2012-08-15 03:24:51 PM  
"President Fartbangbus is so out of touch with average Americans that he owns a dancing horse. Can you believe that shiat? An actual horse that dances!" - The Romney campaign
 
2012-08-15 03:30:44 PM  
"President Willard Hussein Oromney opposed the Detroit auto bailout and then tried to take credit for it." -The Romney campaign
 
2012-08-15 03:30:47 PM  

Cubansaltyballs: You can always tell when they do the internal polling and tell the candidate he's got zero chance to win and they start to freak the f*ck out and start lashing out. For the McCain/Palin campaign, this happened in late Sept 2008. Looks like Romney saw the polling this week.


When they rolled Sarah Palin out in 2008 at least McCain got two or three weeks of positive energy out of it, right up until the public realized how damn dumb she was. With Ryan it seems like there's no bump.

"Hey everybody, look at my new VP pick! He's known for a really great budget plan! But we're not going to use his plan - we're going with mine instead. And truth be told, his budget plan kinda sucked balls anyway."
 
2012-08-15 03:31:19 PM  
I won't bother rephrasing it because Jonathan Capeheart said it best:

This is the campaign that seemed perfectly fine with Sununu saying he wished the president "would learn to be an American."

This is the campaign that continues to be a-okay with supporter Donald Trump's racist birtherism.

This is the campaign that has been mute in the face of Rep. Allen West (R-Fla.) hyperbolic assertion that Obama would "rather you be his slave."

This is the campaign that is allowing Newt Gingrich to host "Newt University" at the Tampa convention this month. The former House speaker is fond of calling Obama a "food stamp president."A wicked phrase that has more racial baggage than a klansman's El Camino.

This is the campaign of the candidate who uttered the equally racially fraught "if they want more stuff from government ... more free stuff" when talking to supporters in Montana about what he told the NAACP about his desire to repeal Obamacare.

This is the campaign that is running a completely dishonest ad about the Obama administration's welfare policy. "Under Obama's plan, you wouldn't have to work and you wouldn't have to train for a job. They just send you your welfare check," the narrator says before the obligatory "I'm Mitt Romney and I approve this message" sign-off.

And, by the way, this is the campaign of the candidate who could only muster, "t's not the language I would have used" after Rush Limbaugh called Sandra Fluke a "slut," a "prostitute" and much worse on his radio show. Her offense? Testifying before Congress in favor of employer coverage of birth control in health-care plans.

So, rather than rail against what they claim is Obama's "desperate campaign based on division and demonization," the Romney campaign and Romney himself ought to spend more time cleaning up the garbage littering their glass house.


Source

Romney turned up the projector to 11.
 
2012-08-15 03:34:36 PM  
"President Chinn Brobama flew to Europe on the taxpayer's dime and insulted our closest ally!" - the Romney campaign
 
2012-08-15 03:46:22 PM  
That's awful rich coming from a party that has been hell-bent on destroying this country just to show its retarded electorate that you can't have a black man in charge of the country, or else it'll be akin to when the Huns sacked Rome. Mitch McConnell said that the most important thing for the GOP is to make Obama a one-term president. Not fix the economy, not create jobs, not get health care to our citizens, but get rid of the black guy. They must have been listening to Chris Rock's stand-up routine; "It's alright because it's all white."

Listen here, Scooter. Obama's campaign strategy is to get you and your Tiger Beat pin-up running mate as far away from the White House as he can get you. That was his strategy in 2008 when it was Gramps Muldoon and Spiro T. Agnew in a skirt, and its his strategy now, when it's the Android and the Randroid. How is he going to go about doing that? Continuing to push for more health care reform, same-sex marriage, no tax cuts for the rich, education, infrastructure, and a lot of other shiat you and yours could give less than a rat's wet asshole about.

God DAMN I hate this motherfarker.
 
2012-08-15 03:46:41 PM  
dtdstudios.com
 
2012-08-15 03:51:33 PM  

Jackson Herring: Fartbangbus


That is way too specific of a fetish site.
 
2012-08-15 03:55:11 PM  

ManateeGag: Jackson Herring: Fartbangbus

That is way too specific of a fetish site.


like a dutch oven on wheels
 
2012-08-15 03:55:14 PM  
The Romney campaign is getting desperate. I'm surprised, I didn't expect them to turn the derp up so high until after the convention.
 
2012-08-15 03:57:26 PM  
"Former Massachusetts Governor Baggin Saggin Barry Santana once invested in a medical waste disposal company that gets rid of aborted fetuses. In fact it is rumored that he once used their services to dispose of his own son Bapp." -The Romney campaign
 
2012-08-15 03:59:59 PM  

ShawnDoc: The Romney campaign is getting desperate. I'm surprised, I didn't expect them to turn the derp up so high until after the convention.


Just wait until after the debates when Romney is really down. It's not going to be a fun October. I think I'd better stock up on aspirin now.
 
2012-08-15 04:01:02 PM  
"Co-founder of Bain Capital Willard "Barack Hussein Obama" Romney made his fortune sending American jobs overseas and using shady tax havens." -The Romney campaign
 
2012-08-15 04:06:55 PM  

ManateeGag: Jackson Herring: Fartbangbus

That is way too specific of a fetish site.


GrandOldLemonParty much?
 
2012-08-15 04:08:11 PM  

sweetmelissa31: EnviroDude: Reps shot the credit rating to screw the POTUS? How about the out of control spending that was going on at the time by the White House. This is why Obama will not run on his record. It stinks!

[i194.photobucket.com image 480x250]


That is awesome! Is that like... Corky Potter or something?
 
2012-08-15 04:09:55 PM  
"President Obamaloney once ate a pork chop with a knife and fork. No, seriously." - The Romney Campaign
 
2012-08-15 04:11:24 PM  

Heavyweight: That is awesome! Is that like... Corky Potter or something?


It's Thomas from Downistie
 
2012-08-15 04:12:06 PM  

Heavyweight: That is awesome! Is that like... Corky Potter or something?


i.imgur.com
 
2012-08-15 04:13:11 PM  

sweetmelissa31: It's Thomas from Downistie


He gets more retarded ass than the barstools at a Baskin Robbins
 
2012-08-15 04:13:41 PM  

sweetmelissa31: Heavyweight: That is awesome! Is that like... Corky Potter or something?

It's Thomas from Downistie


Oh man, my evening just got booked.
 
2012-08-15 04:17:29 PM  

Heavyweight: sweetmelissa31: Heavyweight: That is awesome! Is that like... Corky Potter or something?

It's Thomas from Downistie

Oh man, my evening just got booked.


Don't get too emotionally invested, there's a big cliffhanger at the end of episode 13, and then there are no more episodes posted :(
 
vpb [TotalFark]
2012-08-15 04:27:55 PM  

RminusQ: I can't believe the nerve of Obama/Biden. Is there no low they won't stoop to? Last election, they accused McCain of being an old slowpoke or Palin of building a bridge to nowhere, but now that they're in office, they're terrible at everything. They're worse than Donald Rumsfeld. Rummy knew you have to go to war with the army you have, not the one you wish you had. Now, they're back in campaign mode, trying to gin up support among his fans, a bigger cult of personality than Mao ever had. But even liberals know in their heart of hearts that the debt is so big you have to stop kicking the can. A start is the sensible reform of Medicare advocated by Ryan, who they're making out to be a giant asshole. Well I call bullshiat. No matter how much they attack, Democrats are losing states in spades. Romney is making them fight for every electoral vote, from the 55 in California to the 1 in Omaha, and they're within spitting distance. For all Americans, whether they're in the crib, aged like a fine wine, or 21 and just out of college, Mitt Romney is the right choice for President.


Weak. You want it to look sincere. Your trolling reads like a campaign press release.
 
2012-08-15 04:29:59 PM  

Nina_Hartley's_Ass: "Angry Black Man."


No shiat. I don't think I've ever seen Obama angry. He must be quite a monster when there are no cameras around. But how would Mitt know?

Obama even kept his cool when that lich-Queen was wagging her talon in his face.
 
2012-08-15 04:30:17 PM  

vpb: Weak. You want it to look sincere. Your trolling reads like a campaign press release.


for fark's sake it's a farking word search jesus
 
2012-08-15 04:30:17 PM  
Jon Wesley Hardinbama once shot a man just for snoring to loud. --Romney Old West Books Campaign
 
2012-08-15 04:35:03 PM  

FirstNationalBastard: hubiestubert: Good luck with that Mitt. By tomorrow you'll be saying that Obama wants to hold the nation back by convicting criminals and deporting folks at a record rate.

And let's not forget, he's aiding terrorists by killing people like Osama Bin Laden and Muammar Qaddafi


I thought he was undermining the American justice system by not taking them alive to stand trial. Completely forgetting the fact they nixed giving trials to guantanamo detainees because OBAMA WANTS TO BRING TERRORISTS TO AMERICAN SOIL!
 
2012-08-15 04:36:21 PM  

Ambivalence: FirstNationalBastard: hubiestubert: Good luck with that Mitt. By tomorrow you'll be saying that Obama wants to hold the nation back by convicting criminals and deporting folks at a record rate.

And let's not forget, he's aiding terrorists by killing people like Osama Bin Laden and Muammar Qaddafi

I thought he was undermining the American justice system by not taking them alive to stand trial. Completely forgetting the fact they nixed giving trials to guantanamo detainees because OBAMA WANTS TO BRING TERRORISTS TO AMERICAN SOIL!


Cant he be doing all three at the same time?
 
2012-08-15 04:46:05 PM  

Coco LaFemme: That's awful rich coming from a party that has been hell-bent on destroying this country just to show its retarded electorate that you can't have a black man in charge of the country, or else it'll be akin to when the Huns sacked Rome. Mitch McConnell said that the most important thing for the GOP is to make Obama a one-term president. Not fix the economy, not create jobs, not get health care to our citizens, but get rid of the black guy. They must have been listening to Chris Rock's stand-up routine; "It's alright because it's all white."

Listen here, Scooter. Obama's campaign strategy is to get you and your Tiger Beat pin-up running mate as far away from the White House as he can get you. That was his strategy in 2008 when it was Gramps Muldoon and Spiro T. Agnew in a skirt, and its his strategy now, when it's the Android and the Randroid. How is he going to go about doing that? Continuing to push for more health care reform, same-sex marriage, no tax cuts for the rich, education, infrastructure, and a lot of other shiat you and yours could give less than a rat's wet asshole about.

God DAMN I hate this motherfarker.


I sure would like to subscribe to your newsletter.
 
2012-08-15 05:06:12 PM  
If there is one thing republicans can not accept it is divisive politics...

www.omarworld.com

that they didn't come up with.
 
2012-08-15 05:19:28 PM  
A Dutch soap opera with an all Downs Syndrome cast?



Why haven't I heard of this before????
 
2012-08-15 05:20:58 PM  
My favorite part of Romney's faux rant is when he demonizes and divides by attacking the fine people of Chicago while he rails against demonization and division.
 
2012-08-15 05:21:21 PM  
This thread was Downistied in the Downisties.

/It took me a minute to realize it was in Dutch and not retardese
//I'm assuming there's a difference
 
2012-08-15 05:23:52 PM  

impaler: "Governor Romney's comments tonight seemed unhinged, and particularly strange coming at a time when he's pouring tens of millions of dollars into negative ads that are demonstrably false," said Obama spokesman Ben LaBolt.

Well put.


That's calling the kettle black.

But subby is right on this one, the GOP has the blame for last summer's debt ceiling fiasco.
 
2012-08-15 05:24:33 PM  
dude. just seriously. go f*ck yourself, Mitt. The more you talk, the more I want bad things to happen to you. I've gone from hoping you simply lose the election to hoping you lose all your money and die penniless, riddled with herpes, in a gutter.
 
2012-08-15 05:25:33 PM  

EnviroDude: How about the out of control spending that was going on at the time by the White House.


Here, read this in between banging your head on the desk.
We Now Have Our Smallest Government in 45 Years/
 
2012-08-15 05:26:59 PM  
smash America apart

You know, this is the kind of derpy nonsense that people in the middle get really turned off by. Keep it up, Mitt. Please. Really.
 
2012-08-15 05:28:48 PM  

Coco LaFemme: the Android and the Randroid


All right, that's it!! Time to dust off the Illustrator skillz and make me a bumper sticker around that theme...
 
2012-08-15 05:28:49 PM  
Maybe it's finally dawning on Mitt that the entire GOP establishment *KNEW* that they'd have no chance of winning in 2012, so they found a patsy with a lot of money who could make a nice show of it during the election campaign.

Yeah, the GOP candidate pool REALLY STUNK. No one wanted to go up against a community organizer and be defeated a second time.
 
2012-08-15 05:29:35 PM  

Duke Phillips' Singing Bears: dude. just seriously. go f*ck yourself, Mitt. The more you talk, the more I want bad things to happen to you. I've gone from hoping you simply lose the election to hoping you lose all your money and die penniless, riddled with herpes, in a gutter.


Typical liberal hate.

(Sorry -- I think EnviroDude's mommy put him down for a nap so I thought I'd pitch in!)
 
2012-08-15 05:29:57 PM  
It's increasingly clear that Mitt Romney is a man who has bitten off more than he can chew. He even had several years to prepare for this. By November he's going to be taking hostages and threatening to execute them if he's not elected. Not that that's too much of a departure from the GOP M.O. of late, but you get the picture.
 
2012-08-15 05:31:36 PM  
I can't wait until the projected mid-election debt ceiling fight this fall, when all eyes turn to Mitt Romney and his VP choice.

Who was one of the three men behind the so-called Great Compromise's collapse which led to sequestration, the "fiscal cliff" and the US credit rating downgrade.
 
2012-08-15 05:31:57 PM  

vernonFL: A Dutch soap opera with an all Downs Syndrome cast?



Why haven't I heard of this before????


Sadly episode 3 is the only one subtitled, but I think it has the most rewarding reveal in it. "I have some terrible news about your baby...."
 
2012-08-15 05:32:18 PM  

EnviroDude: Reps shot the credit rating to screw the POTUS? How about the out of control spending that was going on at the time by the White House. This is why Obama will not run on his record. It stinks!



Is this your full or part time job?
 
2012-08-15 05:33:42 PM  
"Quit telling me how I don't have the ethical standards or the normal understanding it takes to be president and look at how much the current president hasn't done that my party is actively preventing him from doing!"
 
2012-08-15 05:33:57 PM  
"President Fartbangbus is so out of touch with average Americans that released ALL of his tax returns. Can you believe it? The level of this man's narcissism sees so limits. He pridefully relishes his wealth and flaunts it in the faces of the poor and disadvantaged. It's an outrage!" - The Romney campaign
 
2012-08-15 05:35:16 PM  
I can't wait for Romney to tells us his wife won't let him release his tax forms.
 
2012-08-15 05:35:20 PM  
well that settles it, i say we give the Republicans a chance, i mean since Obummers presidency the entirety of the nation is in shambles.

lets let the Republicans try to fix the mess that Obama has gotten us into.


/farking bullshiat
//Americans can't be this stupid.
///if they are, they deserve what the GOP has for them.
 
2012-08-15 05:35:31 PM  

vernonFL: A Dutch soap opera with an all Downs Syndrome cast?



Why haven't I heard of this before????


The Romney campaign isn't Dutch, WTF are you smoking?
 
2012-08-15 05:36:50 PM  

malaktaus: vernonFL: A Dutch soap opera with an all Downs Syndrome cast?



Why haven't I heard of this before????

The Romney campaign isn't Dutch, WTF are you smoking?


Hey, that's not fair. The people that associate or that are related to Romney aren't retarded just because they do so.

They just have names that sound like they were picked out by retarded people. Ask Tagg.
 
2012-08-15 05:38:04 PM  

TwoHead: If there is one thing republicans can not accept it is divisive politics...

[www.omarworld.com image 276x350]

that they didn't come up with.


You know, I've always been liberal but I always had some modicum of respect for Republicans until then. Seeing those people mock John Kerry for his service... wow. It's just been downhill from there.
 
2012-08-15 05:38:56 PM  
EnviroDude: Reps shot the credit rating to screw the POTUS? How about the out of control spending that was going on at the time by the White House. This is why Obama will not run on his record. It stinks!

Demonstrating a profound lack of understanding of the topic is generally not considered an optimal opening gambit. But hell, go with it.
 
2012-08-15 05:39:46 PM  

Epoch_Zero: They just have names that sound like they were picked out by retarded people. Ask Tagg.


I think Mitt and Ann were just really big fans of the old campy Adam West Batman series.
 
2012-08-15 05:41:18 PM  
I don't think this "poor me" schtick is going to work out so well for you Mitt. Just sayin'.
 
2012-08-15 05:41:59 PM  
Question: Do the EnviroDentist's of this world get paid by the post or some sort of stipend or what?

I'm genuinely interested in how it works.
 
2012-08-15 05:42:42 PM  
Oh come on Romney. I know basic human decency is to much too much to ask from any duopolist, but could you at least be marginally competent? Just enough that my teeth don't grind when you speak?
 
2012-08-15 05:43:23 PM  
the Republican controlled House has added over 3 trillion to the deficit in the last 20 months
 
2012-08-15 05:43:29 PM  
We must oppose people who think people should be opposed to each other!
 
2012-08-15 05:43:32 PM  

Diogenes: Epoch_Zero: They just have names that sound like they were picked out by retarded people. Ask Tagg.

I think Mitt and Ann were just really big fans of the old campy Adam West Batman series.


I think they have an cartoon adverb/sound grab bag and blindly pick a name out each time they felt it necessary to create another Romneybot clone.

Names on the slips they didn't pick:
"Zoom"
"Dash"
"Biff"
"Thok"
"Ratatatatatata"
"Kapow"
 
2012-08-15 05:44:12 PM  

RminusQ: I can't believe the nerve of Obama/Biden. Is there no low they won't stoop to? Last election, they accused McCain of being an old slowpoke or Palin of building a bridge to nowhere, but now that they're in office, they're terrible at everything. They're worse than Donald Rumsfeld. Rummy knew you have to go to war with the army you have, not the one you wish you had. Now, they're back in campaign mode, trying to gin up support among his fans, a bigger cult of personality than Mao ever had. But even liberals know in their heart of hearts that the debt is so big you have to stop kicking the can. A start is the sensible reform of Medicare advocated by Ryan, who they're making out to be a giant asshole. Well I call bullshiat. No matter how much they attack, Democrats are losing states in spades. Romney is making them fight for every electoral vote, from the 55 in California to the 1 in Omaha, and they're within spitting distance. For all Americans, whether they're in the crib, aged like a fine wine, or 21 and just out of college, Mitt Romney is the right choice for President.


Pretty sure I missed some.
 
2012-08-15 05:44:36 PM  

Tigger: Question: Do the EnviroDentist's of this world get paid by the post or some sort of stipend or what?

I'm genuinely interested in how it works.


Silly Jesus might know - he's a modmin troll. Ask him the next time he shows up to threadshiat.
 
2012-08-15 05:44:49 PM  

Tigger: Question: Do the EnviroDentist's of this world get paid by the post or some sort of stipend or what?

I'm genuinely interested in how it works.


It's scored like diving and gymnastics. Degree of derpiness and execution.
 
2012-08-15 05:45:09 PM  

ManateeGag: EnviroDude: Reps shot the credit rating to screw the POTUS? How about the out of control spending that was going on at the time by the White House. This is why Obama will not run on his record. It stinks!

is that why Romney is running on HIS record? Oh wait, we aren't allowed to talk about his time at Bain or his time as Governor of Massachusetts. What IS Romney running on, other than "I'm not Obama"?


What else does he need to run on? Those who'll vote for him are already voting for him for that exact reason.
 
2012-08-15 05:47:06 PM  

Wheyfaring Stranger: Pretty sure I missed some.

can. A sta

 
2012-08-15 05:48:00 PM  
"President Oboogerbutt once slept in a bed. No, seriously." - The Romney Campaign
 
2012-08-15 05:49:24 PM  
Why do people always say the president's spending is out of control? The President doesn't get to decide how much is spent, congress does. Obama just writes the checks to the amounts they tell him to.
 
2012-08-15 05:49:34 PM  

vernonFL: A Dutch soap opera with an all Downs Syndrome cast?



Why haven't I heard of this before????


I hear Sarah Palin is trying to get Trigg cast in it.
 
2012-08-15 05:49:44 PM  

EnviroDude: How about the out of control spending that was going on at the time by the White House.


You mean like the $2 trillion that Bush added to the debt in his last 18 months in office? Yeah, good times those were.
 
2012-08-15 05:50:41 PM  

Antimatter: Why do people always say the president's spending is out of control? The President doesn't get to decide how much is spent, congress does. Obama just writes the checks to the amounts they tell him to.


Because, SOCALIZUSIM!!!
 
2012-08-15 05:51:23 PM  

TwoHead: If there is one thing republicans can not accept it is divisive politics...

[www.omarworld.com image 276x350]

that they didn't come up with.


farking Christ, I hate that picture. Of all the bullshiat in politics, mocking a purple heart recipient is pure, unfiltered jackassery. Seriously, who's such a soulless piece of human filth that they think "you didn't get injured enough in that war where you defended my country for me while I didn't do shiat"?

fark that biatch, I hope she gets beat to death with a crowbar.

/ok, I feel better now
//anticipating 35 consecutive posts with that picture in response
 
2012-08-15 05:51:38 PM  
It's funny to see the groupthink in action. Of course Mitt Romney is the embodiment of all that is evil and will surely lose the election by at least 10 billion percent, as the entire European Union merges with the US just to vote against him. And let's all talk about how evil and heartless and cruel he is a million times over so that we can continue to reinforce our preconceived worldview!

Get over it. Romney has his issues, to be sure, but all the stupid little Fark Liberal™ groupthink bullshiat isn't going to change the facts. The economy is stuck, people are hurting, and all Obama can do is make snide attacks against Romney while passing the buck on his own record. Instead of talking about fixing Medicare (which, by the way, Medicare Part A is already going insolvent as it's spending more than it's taking in), Obama wants to scare people. Instead of tackling the debt, Obama is promising more spending. Instead of talking about building jobs, Obama is biatching that Mitt Romney won't release his tax records, dental exams, and the results of his last prostate screening.

Grow the fark up.

You can keep up the circlejerk as much as you want. Keep pretending like Obama is the brilliant political genius and Mitt Romney is an idiot. It won't make it true, and the more you burrow into a world of self-indulgent fantasy the more fun it's going to be when reality comes calling.

You had your opportunity to show the world how great left-wing policies would be. You got your Keynesian stimulus and your nationalized health care. And then you lost when the American people rejected them. And now your hero is going to lose too.

I'd say that would wake you up to reality, but I've been around long enough to know that liberals are liberals because they refuse to acknowledge reality.
 
2012-08-15 05:51:48 PM  
s3.amazonaws.com

And then he said...get this.....stop talking about my record...
 
2012-08-15 05:52:17 PM  

coyo: EnviroDude: Reps shot the credit rating to screw the POTUS? How about the out of control spending that was going on at the time by the White House. This is why Obama will not run on his record. It stinks!


Is this your full or part time job?


I doubt he's a paid one, If he is his employee is getting ripped off. More likely he's just one of the douches who likes the attention.....which I just added to.
 
2012-08-15 05:52:38 PM  
Obama's history with Bain Capital and his refusal to release tax returns for the past several years is casting a pall over his whole campaign.
 
2012-08-15 05:53:14 PM  

FirstNationalBastard: hubiestubert: Good luck with that Mitt. By tomorrow you'll be saying that Obama wants to hold the nation back by convicting criminals and deporting folks at a record rate.

And let's not forget, he's aiding terrorists by killing people like Osama Bin Laden and Muammar Qaddafi


Dam straight! Creating more job openings abroad and opportunities for advancement for his secret Muslin friends!
 
2012-08-15 05:54:10 PM  
"Speaker Gingrich," said Romney, "is not revealing himself to be the kind of person I think he would want to be seen in this race for president, because fundamentally, we look for qualities in a president, but we don't look for whining and excuses."
 
2012-08-15 05:54:20 PM  

RminusQ: I can't believe the nerve of Obama/Biden. Is there no low they won't stoop to? Last election, they accused McCain of being an old slowpoke or Palin of building a bridge to nowhere, but now that they're in office, they're terrible at everything. They're worse than Donald Rumsfeld. Rummy knew you have to go to war with the army you have, not the one you wish you had. Now, they're back in campaign mode, trying to gin up support among his fans, a bigger cult of personality than Mao ever had. But even liberals know in their heart of hearts that the debt is so big you have to stop kicking the can. A sta rt is the sensible reform of Medicare advocated by Ryan, who they're making out to be a giant asshole. Well I call bullshiat. No matter how much they attack, Democrats are losing states in spades. Romney is making them fight for every electoral vote, from the 55 in California to the 1 in Omaha, and they're within spitting distance. For all Americans, whether they're in the crib, aged like a fine wine, or 21 and just out of college, Mitt Romney is the right choice for President.


It's card games, and we already have a guy to post word searches for us.
 
2012-08-15 05:54:22 PM  

WombatControl: It's funny to see the groupthink in action. Of course Mitt Romney is the embodiment of all that is evil and will surely lose the election by at least 10 billion percent, as the entire European Union merges with the US just to vote against him. And let's all talk about how evil and heartless and cruel he is a million times over so that we can continue to reinforce our preconceived worldview!

Get over it. Romney has his issues, to be sure, but all the stupid little Fark Liberal™ groupthink bullshiat isn't going to change the facts. The economy is stuck, people are hurting, and all Obama can do is make snide attacks against Romney while passing the buck on his own record. Instead of talking about fixing Medicare (which, by the way, Medicare Part A is already going insolvent as it's spending more than it's taking in), Obama wants to scare people. Instead of tackling the debt, Obama is promising more spending. Instead of talking about building jobs, Obama is biatching that Mitt Romney won't release his tax records, dental exams, and the results of his last prostate screening.

Grow the fark up.

You can keep up the circlejerk as much as you want. Keep pretending like Obama is the brilliant political genius and Mitt Romney is an idiot. It won't make it true, and the more you burrow into a world of self-indulgent fantasy the more fun it's going to be when reality comes calling.

You had your opportunity to show the world how great left-wing policies would be. You got your Keynesian stimulus and your nationalized health care. And then you lost when the American people rejected them. And now your hero is going to lose too.

I'd say that would wake you up to reality, but I've been around long enough to know that liberals are liberals because they refuse to acknowledge reality.


media.tumblr.com
 
2012-08-15 05:54:25 PM  

BritneysSpeculum: And when does Romney start running on his record? He won't provide details on any of his plans but just asks us to trust him. Why would anyone trust Mitt?


i1126.photobucket.com
"Look, I'm INCREDIBLY wealthy. Do you people not get that? I do not understand why that isn't enough."
 
2012-08-15 05:54:43 PM  

Poison Appleseeds: coyo: EnviroDude: Reps shot the credit rating to screw the POTUS? How about the out of control spending that was going on at the time by the White House. This is why Obama will not run on his record. It stinks!


Is this your full or part time job?

I doubt he's a paid one, If he is his employee employer is getting ripped off. More likely he's just one of the douches who likes the attention.....which I just added to.


/fifm
 
2012-08-15 05:55:59 PM  

EnviroDude: Reps shot the credit rating to screw the POTUS? How about the out of control spending that was going on at the time by the White House. This is why Obama will not run on his record. It stinks!


With this kind of spin, folks, we can expect the sun to rise in the West tomorrow.
 
2012-08-15 05:56:05 PM  

WombatControl: It's funny to see the groupthink in action. Of course Mitt Romney is the embodiment of all that is evil and will surely lose the election by at least 10 billion percent, as the entire European Union merges with the US just to vote against him. And let's all talk about how evil and heartless and cruel he is a million times over so that we can continue to reinforce our preconceived worldview!

Get over it. Romney has his issues, to be sure, but all the stupid little Fark Liberal™ groupthink bullshiat isn't going to change the facts. The economy is stuck, people are hurting, and all Obama can do is make snide attacks against Romney while passing the buck on his own record. Instead of talking about fixing Medicare (which, by the way, Medicare Part A is already going insolvent as it's spending more than it's taking in), Obama wants to scare people. Instead of tackling the debt, Obama is promising more spending. Instead of talking about building jobs, Obama is biatching that Mitt Romney won't release his tax records, dental exams, and the results of his last prostate screening.

Grow the fark up.

You can keep up the circlejerk as much as you want. Keep pretending like Obama is the brilliant political genius and Mitt Romney is an idiot. It won't make it true, and the more you burrow into a world of self-indulgent fantasy the more fun it's going to be when reality comes calling.

You had your opportunity to show the world how great left-wing policies would be. You got your Keynesian stimulus and your nationalized health care. And then you lost when

your mom got scared and said "You're moving with your auntie and uncle in Bel-Air."

You whistled for a cab and when it came near, you ignorant libs saw that the license plate said "FRESH" and it had dice in the mirror. If anything, the Fark circlejerk brigade could say this cab was rare, but, ah, nah, forget it. Yo homes, to Bel-Air!

You ignorant Marxists rolled up to the house about seven or eight, and you yelled to the cabbie "Yo homes, smell you later!" You looked at your kingdom, you were finally there to sit on your thrones as the libs of Bel-Air.
 
2012-08-15 05:56:07 PM  

WombatControl: derpsnip


I like conservatives lecturing about reality.
 
2012-08-15 05:56:22 PM  

A Dark Evil Omen: Obama's history with Bain Capital and his refusal to release tax returns for the past several years is casting a pall over his whole campaign.


So I'm to understand that Obama now has a time machine AND a way to travel to alternate dimensions?

Damn...better vote for him or he'll send Obaminators back in time to kill us all.
 
2012-08-15 05:56:31 PM  
Great. Now thirty idiots are going to respond to the obvious troll. Well, there are other threads.
 
2012-08-15 05:57:09 PM  

EnviroDude: Reps shot the credit rating to screw the POTUS? How about the out of control spending that was going on at the time by the White House. This is why Obama will not run on his record. It stinks!


capitolcommentary.com
 
2012-08-15 05:57:26 PM  

Antimatter: Why do people always say the president's spending is out of control? The President doesn't get to decide how much is spent, congress does. Obama just writes the checks to the amounts they tell him to.


Because, despite a round of fire spitty foot dragging these past few years, tjw long term trend of Congress is towards rubber-stampery and to cede more power to the executive. Most liberals thawing about the imperial presidency last time around tis merry-go-round were just out to sling shiat at bush but they were also right.
 
2012-08-15 05:57:40 PM  
So since the 5-o-clock news started in DC (thanks for being a swing state, Virginia), there has been a negative Romney/GOP/Rove ad every single commercial break. For a couple of them, there were two ads. But no, it's Obama "smashing America apart."
 
2012-08-15 05:58:11 PM  
"Obama's campaign strategy is to smash America apart and if an American president wins that way, we all lose" says Mitt Romney

i293.photobucket.com

Obama Smash!


/Puny filibuster.
 
2012-08-15 05:58:13 PM  

EnviroDude: Reps shot the credit rating to screw the POTUS? How about the out of control spending that was going on at the time by the White House. This is why Obama will not run on his record. It stinks!


I can't believe I'm about to do this, but here goes...

Hey, you stupid brainless fuhk...did you NOT see any of the numerous appearances the HEAD OF S&P made on the teevee machine in the days following the downgrade, where he very clearly stated that the reasons for the downgrade were..

*Not enough spending cuts, EVEN AFTER OBAMA put four trillion worth of them on the table and the Republicants said "No".

*Brinksmanship on the part of Congress and the lack of confidence in the present US political system to deal with present and future economic issues due to the Republicants continued hissy fit over the fact that they LOST in 2008.

*The fact that there were Teabaggers sitting in Congress who were more than ready to allow the US to default on it's debts in the name of sticking to their economically illiterate agenda.

Did ya miss all that, cupcake? You must have, because I don't think it was on Fox.

"
 
2012-08-15 05:58:14 PM  

WombatControl: I'd say that would wake you up to reality, but I've been around long enough to know that liberals are liberals because they refuse to acknowledge reality.


Things have been getting progressively better under Obama. Republicans have admitted as much, they just don't think it's fast enough. So what do they want to do? The exact opposite of what is working in hopes that it will work better, using a trickle-down policy that has proven to be complete BS over the last 30 years. Everything you've just said is complete crap and there is no evidence whatsoever that anything Romney wants to do has any chance of working at all. I will never understand why Republicans seem to think that the cure to everything is to go back to the same policies that caused the problem in the first place.
 
2012-08-15 05:58:22 PM  
Remember when Obama took office and immediately Republicans were threatening liberals with "second amendment solutions" and "watering the tree of liberty?" When even something as harmless as the president telling kids to work hard in school would cause Fox to ask for two weeks, "Why is Obama so much like Hitler?"

It's really funny to see these guys whine about divisiveness.
 
2012-08-15 05:58:25 PM  
"And that's why Obama is bad for this country: he is waging a class-war by slandering the financially succesful among us. Well, let me tell you, I'm not going to have this election be about a phony class war."

*stops to soak in applause from crowd.*

"Now, we've got to reform welfare in this county. Would you believe it if I told you some people in Massachusettes are able to use food-stamps to buy whoopie-pies at farmers' markets? My father had a word for that. Disgraceful."

*soaks in more applause*....
 
2012-08-15 05:58:26 PM  

Angry Drunk Bureaucrat: Quasar: Remember like two days ago when Romney claimed he wanted a clean campaign on the issues and not a negative mudslinging brawl?

Live in the NOW man! Get with the times!


I couldn't agree more with this, why would anyone want to relive those days? My god the hairstyles were atrocious back then, not to mention the music sucked. Stop reliving the past dudes.
 
2012-08-15 05:58:34 PM  

WombatControl: circlejerk


Your straw men are all burned out.
 
2012-08-15 05:58:56 PM  

Dog Welder: A Dark Evil Omen: Obama's history with Bain Capital and his refusal to release tax returns for the past several years is casting a pall over his whole campaign.

So I'm to understand that Obama now has a time machine AND a way to travel to alternate dimensions?

Damn...better vote for him or he'll send Obaminators back in time to kill us all.


www.strangecosmos.com

/BTW, did you get your name from Garth Ennis'shiatman? If so, I respect your choice of reading material. It's Bueno.
 
2012-08-15 05:59:56 PM  

Tigger: Question: Do the EnviroDentist's of this world get paid by the post or some sort of stipend or what?

I'm genuinely interested in how it works.


Me too, I could be a stay at home Dad. I'd even posts for the morons on the Right, if the money was good.
 
2012-08-15 06:00:30 PM  

WombatControl: It's funny to see the groupthink in action. Of course Mitt Romney is the embodiment of all that is evil and will surely lose the election by at least 10 billion percent, as the entire European Union merges with the US just to vote against him. And let's all talk about how evil and heartless and cruel he is a million times over so that we can continue to reinforce our preconceived worldview!

Get over it. Romney has his issues, to be sure, but all the stupid little Fark Liberal™ groupthink bullshiat isn't going to change the facts. The economy is stuck, people are hurting, and all Obama can do is make snide attacks against Romney while passing the buck on his own record. Instead of talking about fixing Medicare (which, by the way, Medicare Part A is already going insolvent as it's spending more than it's taking in), Obama wants to scare people. Instead of tackling the debt, Obama is promising more spending. Instead of talking about building jobs, Obama is biatching that Mitt Romney won't release his tax records, dental exams, and the results of his last prostate screening.

Grow the fark up.

You can keep up the circlejerk as much as you want. Keep pretending like Obama is the brilliant political genius and Mitt Romney is an idiot. It won't make it true, and the more you burrow into a world of self-indulgent fantasy the more fun it's going to be when reality comes calling.

You had your opportunity to show the world how great left-wing policies would be. You got your Keynesian stimulus and your nationalized health care. And then you lost when the American people rejected them. And now your hero is going to lose too.

I'd say that would wake you up to reality, but I've been around long enough to know that liberals are liberals because they refuse to acknowledge reality.


Given wombatcontrol's track record (he has never been right about anything) I think we can pen Obama in for another 4 years.

Though do give us a chuckle and try to cite an occasion when you've been right. For added amusement could you make it an economics example?
 
2012-08-15 06:01:00 PM  

WombatControl: You got your Keynesian stimulus and your nationalized health care.


You are really becoming unhinged. Nationalized healthcare? Really? I mean, that's pretty goddamn silly to say, even for you.
 
2012-08-15 06:02:01 PM  

Tigger: Question: Do the EnviroDentist's of this world get paid by the post or some sort of stipend or what?

I'm genuinely interested in how it works.


You know, I keep seeing accusations that these guys are paid shills, but I'm not buying it. There are most certainly a lot of people who really do think like that, especially in the South, but everywhere else too. Don't we all have that one friend, the dittohead who regards Rush as a good and honorable man? You know, nice guy but pretty stupid and extremely gullible? I know I do. In person he isn't so angry and confrontational, but put him in an environment where he's anonymous and he doesn't actually know the people he's communicating with and I'm guessing he would sound almost exactly like Envirodude. Fark is fairly liberal, so they are definitely in the minority, but there's no reason why there wouldn't be any. They aren't paid shills, they're just idiots.
 
2012-08-15 06:02:07 PM  

ssa5: Angry Drunk Bureaucrat: Quasar: Remember like two days ago when Romney claimed he wanted a clean campaign on the issues and not a negative mudslinging brawl?

Live in the NOW man! Get with the times!

I couldn't agree more with this, why would anyone want to relive those days? My god the hairstyles were atrocious back then, not to mention the music sucked. Stop reliving the past dudes.


Indeed.

Back in the olden days, Miley Cyrus looked like this:

cdn03.cdnwp.celebuzz.com

How Quaint.

Now, she looks like Miley should!

static.thehollywoodgossip.com
 
2012-08-15 06:03:48 PM  
"I think some of our members may have thought the default issue was a hostage you might take a chance at shooting. Most of us didn't think that. What we did learn is this -- it's a hostage that's worth ransoming. And it focuses the Congress on something that must be done."

"The single most important thing we want to achieve is for President Obama to be a one-term president."

-Mitch McConnell (R) (D)???????

/the revisioniest of histories!!
//I make up words all the time.
///It's pretty stuponfucious.
 
2012-08-15 06:05:02 PM  
Nice to see the Republicans finally calling BS on the usual liberal lies.
 
2012-08-15 06:09:40 PM  

BritneysSpeculum: EnviroDude: Reps shot the credit rating to screw the POTUS? How about the out of control spending that was going on at the time by the White House. This is why Obama will not run on his record. It stinks!

THE WHITE HOUSE DOES NOT APPROPRIATE FOR FARK SAKE. CONGRESS DOES. And, the current huge deficits are more attributable to a loss of tax revenue from the economic downturn than to any spending that was done. The only thing that Obama can be accountable for is the stimulus package which was a necessary step to avoid a depression.

And when does Romney start running on his record? He won't provide details on any of his plans but just asks us to trust him. Why would anyone trust Mitt?


The stimulus package was from Bush's TARP.
 
2012-08-15 06:10:08 PM  

cchris_39: Nice to see the Republicans finally calling BS on the usual liberal lies.


You're not Karl Rove, and without the largest media machine behind you creating a Potemkin village to support your nonsense, talking the exact opposite of reality just makes you look like a crazy person.
 
2012-08-15 06:10:12 PM  

Antimatter: Why do people always say the president's spending is out of control? The President doesn't get to decide how much is spent, congress does. Obama just writes the checks to the amounts they tell him to.


Then why did Obama just spend $3,000,000 of my tax dollars on beer for Liberal Iowans today?
 
2012-08-15 06:10:31 PM  

deadcrickets: The stimulus package was from Bush's TARP


Actually, no the stimulus and TARP were two separate things.
 
2012-08-15 06:10:49 PM  

WombatControl: You can keep up the circlejerk as much as you want. Keep pretending like Obama is the brilliant political genius and Mitt Romney is an idiot. It won't make it true, and the more you burrow into a world of self-indulgent fantasy the more fun it's going to be when reality comes calling.

You had your opportunity to show the world how great left-wing policies would be. You got your Keynesian stimulus and your nationalized health care. And then you lost when the American people rejected them. And now your hero is going to lose too.


That's funny... My wife got laid off at the beginning of the recession, a little thing that happened when a man named George W Bush was president. My company probably laid off about 20% of the workforce, and for those that were left, they made us either take a 5% pay cut or max out at 32 hour weeks with no O.T. We also lost matching fund contributions on the IRA, and lost pay raises and bonuses.

Fast forward to mid-2012. My wife found a new job, has already received a promotion, and multiple raises. My company has filled all but about 10% of the original positions(The rest were redundant positions), we have acquired 2 new companies, expanded our market share, added about 5x as many new jobs as we didn't fill, we have gotten our pay back, raises back, full hours back and developed new product for our existing market. They also normalized PTO, which meant bringing our Salt Lake office in line with what people got at our Chicago office. I went from 2 weeks' PTO to 4 weeks' worth this spring.

All that's left is bonuses and matching retirement contribution.

But hey, yeah, there are millions in the street begging for jobs. I mean it's so bad that I can't drive to work without running over at least 17 people a day.
 
2012-08-15 06:11:05 PM  

WombatControl: It's funny to see the groupthink in action. Of course Mitt Romney is the embodiment of all that is evil and will surely lose the election by at least 10 billion percent, as the entire European Union merges with the US just to vote against him. And let's all talk about how evil and heartless and cruel he is a million times over so that we can continue to reinforce our preconceived worldview!

Get over it. Romney has his issues, to be sure, but all the stupid little Fark Liberal™ groupthink bullshiat isn't going to change the facts. The economy is stuck, people are hurting, and all Obama can do is make snide attacks against Romney while passing the buck on his own record. Instead of talking about fixing Medicare (which, by the way, Medicare Part A is already going insolvent as it's spending more than it's taking in), Obama wants to scare people. Instead of tackling the debt, Obama is promising more spending. Instead of talking about building jobs, Obama is biatching that Mitt Romney won't release his tax records, dental exams, and the results of his last prostate screening.

Grow the fark up.

You can keep up the circlejerk as much as you want. Keep pretending like Obama is the brilliant political genius and Mitt Romney is an idiot. It won't make it true, and the more you burrow into a world of self-indulgent fantasy the more fun it's going to be when reality comes calling.

You had your opportunity to show the world how great left-wing policies would be. You got your Keynesian stimulus and your nationalized health care. And then you lost when the American people rejected them. And now your hero is going to lose too.

I'd say that would wake you up to reality, but I've been around long enough to know that liberals are liberals because they refuse to acknowledge reality.


Not a liberal by far (libertarian) but frankly it's the GOP that lead us to this global economic collapse, led us to further harm by refusing to do their damn jobs in Congress to help alleviate the problems THEY created, and are further giving the finger to the working middle class by wanting to raise taxes on us. Screw your Fascist party!
 
2012-08-15 06:13:26 PM  

ManateeGag: What IS Romney running on, other than "I'm not Obama"?


As if he needed anything else.
 
2012-08-15 06:15:38 PM  

Antimatter: Why do people always say the president's spending is out of control? The President doesn't get to decide how much is spent, congress does. Obama just writes the checks to the amounts they tell him to.


Plus there was at least one court case saying if Congress allocates $1 million for the perverted arts, the President HAS to spend it.
 
2012-08-15 06:15:45 PM  

Polly Ester: ManateeGag: What IS Romney running on, other than "I'm not Obama"?

As if he needed anything else.


Seriously. Mitt Romney was a successful businessman...but he doesn't want us to talk about that. Mitt Romney pushed through revolutionary health care legislation...but he doesn't want us to talk about that.

Sooooo...yeah.
 
2012-08-15 06:15:56 PM  

A Dark Evil Omen: cchris_39: Nice to see the Republicans finally calling BS on the usual liberal lies.

You're not Karl Rove, and without the largest media machine behind you creating a Potemkin village to support your nonsense, talking the exact opposite of reality just makes you look like a crazy person.


1, Romney hasn't paid taxes in 10 years.
2. Romney kills unemployed poeple.
3. Ryan wants to push grandma over a cliff.
4. Republicans want to put you in chains.

Yeah, about that Potemkin village and people looking crazy....
 
2012-08-15 06:16:18 PM  

cchris_39: Nice to see the Republicans finally calling BS on the usual liberal lies still spewing bullshiat.


FTFY
 
2012-08-15 06:17:20 PM  

Polly Ester: ManateeGag: What IS Romney running on, other than "I'm not Obama"?

As if he needed anything else.


Apparently he does, since that's not working. Have you seen the polls lately?
 
2012-08-15 06:21:01 PM  

vpb: RminusQ: I can't believe the nerve of Obama/Biden. Is there no low they won't stoop to? Last election, they accused McCain of being an old slowpoke or Palin of building a bridge to nowhere, but now that they're in office, they're terrible at everything. They're worse than Donald Rumsfeld. Rummy knew you have to go to war with the army you have, not the one you wish you had. Now, they're back in campaign mode, trying to gin up support among his fans, a bigger cult of personality than Mao ever had. But even liberals know in their heart of hearts that the debt is so big you have to stop kicking the can. A start is the sensible reform of Medicare advocated by Ryan, who they're making out to be a giant asshole. Well I call bullshiat. No matter how much they attack, Democrats are losing states in spades. Romney is making them fight for every electoral vote, from the 55 in California to the 1 in Omaha, and they're within spitting distance. For all Americans, whether they're in the crib, aged like a fine wine, or 21 and just out of college, Mitt Romney is the right choice for President.

Weak. You want it to look sincere. Your trolling reads like a campaign press release.


Some paragraph breaks would be helpful, too.
 
2012-08-15 06:30:41 PM  
It's like farktards are running Obama's campaign it's so nasty, lie-filled, misleading, intellectually bankrupt and intransigent.

I'll be over in the corner.
 
2012-08-15 06:32:40 PM  

ManateeGag: What IS Romney running on, other than "I'm not Obama"?


"Vote for me 'cuz I'm white and not a mooooooooooooooooooooozlem"
 
2012-08-15 06:35:44 PM  
The US was downgraded because of 0bama's failure of leadership.

Said that we went from "The Buck Stops Here" to "Oh, poor me, the job is hard and some people disagree with me".

It isn't as if past Presidents had strong disagreements with the other party. Geesh, Clinton was impeached and he was still able to put that aside and lead the country. And people thought Bush was (fill in your favorite insult), yet Bush was able to work with them.
 
2012-08-15 06:36:57 PM  
www.citywidemoonwalks.com

2012 Republican talking points.
 
2012-08-15 06:38:34 PM  
Cletus C.: It's like farktards are running Obama's campaign it's so nasty, lie-filled, misleading, intellectually bankrupt and intransigent.

I'll be over in the corner.


i.imgur.com
 
2012-08-15 06:42:42 PM  

tenpoundsofcheese

The US was downgraded because of 0bama's failure of leadership.

Said that we went from "The Buck Stops Here" to "Oh, poor me, the job is hard and some people disagree with me".

It isn't as if past Presidents had strong disagreements with the other party. Geesh, Clinton was impeached and he was still able to put that aside and lead the country. And people thought Bush was (fill in your favorite insult), yet Bush was able to work with them.


When has an opposition party seriously held up the debt ceiling increase?

The GOP can't shiat the bed with everybody watching and then turn around and blame Obama.
 
2012-08-15 06:44:17 PM  
Isn't it funny how 8 years ago, 5% unemployment and 3% GDP growth was a sign that Bush was leading us into a "jobless recovery" and he was a terrible President and everything bad was his fault.

Now we have 8.2% unemployment, 1.5% economic growth, high gas prices, high food prices, and the labor force is at its lowest participation rate since the Great Depression - but that's a sign of how awesome President Obama is.

At least one thing is consistent, it's still all Bush's fault to the left.

Again, grow up. The collapse of the housing bubble is not the fault of "trickle down economics" - that's a stupid, thoughtless line that gets trotted out time and time again by people in place of actually thinking. And if you want to believe that the economic policies of the last 30 years were terrible, then there's a good chance that A:) you weren't alive in the 1970s or B:) have no clue about history. (And those options are not mutually exclusive.)

Oh, and because someone has a better job now than before, I guess that means the economy is just great then! We can ignore all the actual data because someone's anecdote totally means something.

And again, this thread proves my point - the left can't think beyond bumper-sticker slogans. Why is there thread after thread after thread slagging on every inconsequential detail and every made-up pseudo-scandal involving Romney? Because if the discussion were about the issues, the left would lose. So instead it's got to be about constantly reinforcing the groupthink, constantly talking about how terrible and evil Romney is. Constantly talking about how "trickle down economics" doesn't work.

Remember, liberals use places like Fark like a drunk uses a lightpost - it's not about illumination, it's about support.
 
2012-08-15 06:44:55 PM  
This coming from the guy whose side is renowned for doing everything it can to block, fight, stop, mangle, and otherwise oppose Obama at ANYthing and EVERYthing for spite, hatred, and because if they can't have America they'll collapse it to the ground.

If Obama decided to give them everything they wanted, no strings attached, and he would throw himself off a cliff, the right would vehemently oppose it because Obama was the one who suggested it.

/think that's far-fetched? Ask Romneycare
 
2012-08-15 06:45:46 PM  
Can someone actually explain how the House GOP is to blame for the credit downturn?

The US missed no payments on debt
the debt ceiling got raised without any delay

Liberals always need a scapegoat.
 
2012-08-15 06:51:24 PM  
Link

Quite a few mentions of the debt ceiling fiasco that was the courtesy of the GOP.
 
2012-08-15 06:51:41 PM  
WombatControl

Isn't it funny how 8 years ago, 5% unemployment and 3% GDP growth was a sign that Bush was leading us into a "jobless recovery" and he was a terrible President and everything bad was his fault.

Now we have 8.2% unemployment, 1.5% economic growth, high gas prices, high food prices, and the labor force is at its lowest participation rate since the Great Depression - but that's a sign of how awesome President Obama is.

At least one thing is consistent, it's still all Bush's fault to the left.

Again, grow up. The collapse of the housing bubble is not the fault of "trickle down economics" - that's a stupid, thoughtless line that gets trotted out time and time again by people in place of actually thinking. And if you want to believe that the economic policies of the last 30 years were terrible, then there's a good chance that A:) you weren't alive in the 1970s or B:) have no clue about history. (And those options are not mutually exclusive.)

Oh, and because someone has a better job now than before, I guess that means the economy is just great then! We can ignore all the actual data because someone's anecdote totally means something.

And again, this thread proves my point - the left can't think beyond bumper-sticker slogans. Why is there thread after thread after thread slagging on every inconsequential detail and every made-up pseudo-scandal involving Romney? Because if the discussion were about the issues, the left would lose. So instead it's got to be about constantly reinforcing the groupthink, constantly talking about how terrible and evil Romney is. Constantly talking about how "trickle down economics" doesn't work.

Remember, liberals use places like Fark like a drunk uses a lightpost - it's not about illumination, it's about support.

4.bp.blogspot.com
 
2012-08-15 06:52:25 PM  
"Baracraptree Hussein O'Brien actually fled the country and dodged the draft during the Vietnam War, hiding in Paris. France! You can't make this up, folks." -Romney campaign
 
2012-08-15 06:55:21 PM  
WombatControl

So going to try to defend 30 years of stagnant wages as having no economic consequences next?
 
2012-08-15 06:56:20 PM  
RminusQ: I can't believe the nerve of Obama/Biden. Is there no low they won't stoop to? Last election, they accused McCain of being an old slowpoke or Palin of building a bridge to nowhere, but now that they're in office, they're terrible at everything. They're worse than Donald Rumsfeld. Rummy knew you have to go to war with the army you have, not the one you wish you had. Now, they're back in campaign mode, trying to gin up support among his fans, a bigger cult of personality than Mao ever had. But even liberals know in their heart of hearts that the debt is so big you have to stop kicking the can. A start is the sensible reform of Medicare advocated by Ryan, who they're making out to be a giant asshole. Well I call bullshiat. No matter how much they attack, Democrats are losing states in spades. Romney is making them fight for every electoral vote, from the 55 in California to the 1 in Omaha, and they're within spitting distance. For all Americans, whether they're in the crib, aged like a fine wine, or 21 and just out of college, Mitt Romney is the right choice for President.

The quote button is broken, but I believe the meme is card games - war, gin, spades, rummy, 21, cribage, 55, omaha, bridge, no low, slowpoke etc.
 
2012-08-15 06:57:18 PM  
"The downgrade reflects our opinion that the fiscal consolidation plan that Congress and the Administration recently agreed to falls short of what, in our view, would be necessary to stabilize the government's medium-term debt dynamics.

- More broadly, the downgrade reflects our view that the effectiveness, stability, and predictability of American policymaking and political institutions have weakened at a time of ongoing fiscal and economic challenges to a degree more than we envisioned when we assigned a negative outlook to the rating on April 18, 2011.

- Since then, we have changed our view of the difficulties in bridging the gulf between the political parties over fiscal policy, which makes us pessimistic about the capacity of Congress and the Administration to be able to leverage their agreement this week into a broader fiscal consolidation plan that stabilizes the government's debt dynamics any time soon."

This is a failure of 0bama's leadership. He is unable to work with both sides and actually compromise.
"The Buck Stops Here" - something 0bama needs to learn and take responsibility. It isn't as if there was nothing he could do to prevent it...he had it in his power to prevent it and he did not.
 
2012-08-15 06:57:27 PM  

WombatControl: Isn't it funny how 8 years ago, 5% unemployment and 3% GDP growth was a sign that Bush was leading us into a "jobless recovery" and he was a terrible President and everything bad was his fault.

Now we have 8.2% unemployment, 1.5% economic growth, high gas prices, high food prices, and the labor force is at its lowest participation rate since the Great Depression - but that's a sign of how awesome President Obama is.

At least one thing is consistent, it's still all Bush's fault to the left.

Again, grow up. The collapse of the housing bubble is not the fault of "trickle down economics" - that's a stupid, thoughtless line that gets trotted out time and time again by people in place of actually thinking. And if you want to believe that the economic policies of the last 30 years were terrible, then there's a good chance that A:) you weren't alive in the 1970s or B:) have no clue about history. (And those options are not mutually exclusive.)

Oh, and because someone has a better job now than before, I guess that means the economy is just great then! We can ignore all the actual data because someone's anecdote totally means something.

And again, this thread proves my point - the left can't think beyond bumper-sticker slogans. Why is there thread after thread after thread slagging on every inconsequential detail and every made-up pseudo-scandal involving Romney? Because if the discussion were about the issues, the left would lose. So instead it's got to be about constantly reinforcing the groupthink, constantly talking about how terrible and evil Romney is. Constantly talking about how "trickle down economics" doesn't work.

Remember, liberals use places like Fark like a drunk uses a lightpost - it's not about illumination, it's about support.


1. Whining about how liberals are all poopieheads won't get them to discuss issues with them. Neither will calling them socialists, nazis, terrorist sympathizers, nor lying on about the positions liberals tend to support. There are very few conservatives on this site who engage on a meaningful level; the rest are conspiracy theorists who think liberals are trying to destroy the country. You aren't one of them.

2. Your claim that Obama nationalized healthcare and your failure to compare the current economy with its trajectory when he took office is evidence that you aren't interested in facts at all - just another asshole parotting talking points.
 
2012-08-15 06:58:17 PM  
This is a failure of 0bama's leadership. He is unable to work with both sides and actually compromise.
"The Buck Stops Here" - something 0bama needs to learn and take responsibility. It isn't as if there was nothing he could do to prevent it...he had it in his power to prevent it and he did not.


That's odd because they were talking about the debt ceiling fiasco. Who caused that?
 
2012-08-15 06:59:36 PM  
tenpoundsofcheese

"The downgrade reflects our opinion that the fiscal consolidation plan that Congress and the Administration recently agreed to falls short of what, in our view, would be necessary to stabilize the government's medium-term debt dynamics.

- More broadly, the downgrade reflects our view that the effectiveness, stability, and predictability of American policymaking and political institutions have weakened at a time of ongoing fiscal and economic challenges to a degree more than we envisioned when we assigned a negative outlook to the rating on April 18, 2011.

- Since then, we have changed our view of the difficulties in bridging the gulf between the political parties over fiscal policy, which makes us pessimistic about the capacity of Congress and the Administration to be able to leverage their agreement this week into a broader fiscal consolidation plan that stabilizes the government's debt dynamics any time soon."

This is a failure of 0bama's leadership. He is unable to work with both sides and actually compromise.
"The Buck Stops Here" - something 0bama needs to learn and take responsibility. It isn't as if there was nothing he could do to prevent it...he had it in his power to prevent it and he did not.


ih2.redbubble.net
 
2012-08-15 07:01:33 PM  

Halli: This is a failure of 0bama's leadership. He is unable to work with both sides and actually compromise.
"The Buck Stops Here" - something 0bama needs to learn and take responsibility. It isn't as if there was nothing he could do to prevent it...he had it in his power to prevent it and he did not.

That's odd because they were talking about the debt ceiling fiasco. Who caused that?


Clearly it's Obama's fault that tea party morons refused to increase the debt ceiling so he could pay for the things Congress told him to buy.
 
2012-08-15 07:02:07 PM  
Haili: 0bama caused the debt ceiling fiasco. If he would have compromised, it would not have happened.

Oh, and if he would have put together a budget, any budget, even a bad one, when he controlled both the House and Senate, that would have helped too.


The whole "Buck Stops Here"

""The downgrade reflects our opinion that the fiscal consolidation plan that Congress and the Administration recently agreed to falls short of what, in our view, would be necessary to stabilize the government's medium-term debt dynamics.

- More broadly, the downgrade reflects our view that the effectiveness, stability, and predictability of American policymaking and political institutions have weakened at a time of ongoing fiscal and economic challenges to a degree more than we envisioned when we assigned a negative outlook to the rating on April 18, 2011.

- Since then, we have changed our view of the difficulties in bridging the gulf between the political parties over fiscal policy, which makes us pessimistic about the capacity of Congress and the Administration to be able to leverage their agreement this week into a broader fiscal consolidation plan that stabilizes the government's debt dynamics any time soon.
 
2012-08-15 07:06:18 PM  
Haili: 0bama caused the debt ceiling fiasco. If he would have compromised, it would not have happened.

Oh, and if he would have put together a budget, any budget, even a bad one, when he controlled both the House and Senate, that would have helped too.


I'm sorry are you insane? Didn't Boehner say they got 98% of what they wanted?

The GOP had people that wanted to default. They caused the fiasco that had been standard fare under every president until Obama.
 
2012-08-15 07:07:48 PM  
tenpounds, are you really admitting that congress was obstructionist? You better be careful or they will stop paying you to deflect the fact that the Republicans are actively trying to keep the unemployment rate up (remember a full percent from that number is due to public employee layoffs) and suppress the flow of capitol from the economy.
 
2012-08-15 07:17:34 PM  
Haili: 0bama caused the debt ceiling fiasco. If he would have compromised, it would not have happened.

Oh, and if he would have put together a budget, any budget, even a bad one, when he controlled both the House and Senate, that would have helped too.

I'm sorry are you insane?

No.

Didn't Boehner say they got 98% of what they wanted?

Did you expect him to tell his constituents "I didn't get what I wanted". Positioning how does that work?

You keep ignoring what S&P actually said, but go on.
It isn't as if 0bama was able to have his own farking budget (for how long??) even when he had majorities in the house and senate. Yeah, that had nothing to do with it.
 
2012-08-15 07:17:58 PM  
Keep going on this line, Mitt, maybe step it up some. This is a winner for you.

Because you totally don't come off as a whinging spoiled douche.
 
2012-08-15 07:21:38 PM  
The greatest torture you could submit a GOPer to is to gift them a brief moment where they realize how hard they are projecting their own faults onto everyone else. It would immediately devastate their egos.
 
2012-08-15 07:21:55 PM  
Didn't Boehner say they got 98% of what they wanted?

Did you expect him to tell his constituents "I didn't get what I wanted". Positioning how does that work?


So Boehner was lying when he said that? Is that really where you're going with this TPOC?

Talk about a fail.
 
2012-08-15 07:22:26 PM  
Coyo
tenpounds, are you really admitting that congress was obstructionist? You better be careful or they will stop paying you to deflect the fact that the Republicans are actively trying to keep the unemployment rate up (remember a full percent from that number is due to public employee layoffs) and suppress the flow of capitol from the economy.

OMG. Can you imagine that congress would not just roll over and do whatever the President wanted. That has never, ever happened before. It has also never happened that congress would ask the President to compromise on what they thought was important. What also has never compromised is that the President was unwilling to compromise, unable to create any budgets in his first two years, and was willing to roll the dice with the rating in order to later blame republicans.

0bama had 100% control. He could have created his own budgets and compromised on the negotiations, voila No rating downgrade.


Thanks for worrying about my being paid. Don't worry, that is secure. Especially after things last Friday.
 
2012-08-15 07:24:10 PM  

WombatControl: Isn't it funny how 8 years ago, 5% unemployment and 3% GDP growth was a sign that Bush was leading us into a "jobless recovery" and he was a terrible President and everything bad was his fault.

Now we have 8.2% unemployment, 1.5% economic growth, high gas prices, high food prices, and the labor force is at its lowest participation rate since the Great Depression - but that's a sign of how awesome President Obama is.


I'm sure that's baffling as all hell if you haven't got "a clue about history." 

/also, preview button! \o/
 
2012-08-15 07:24:11 PM  

LouDobbsAwaaaay: The greatest torture you could submit a GOPer to is to gift them a brief moment where they realize how hard they are projecting their own faults onto everyone else. It would immediately devastate their egos.


Bbbbbbuuuu
 
2012-08-15 07:26:31 PM  
cchris_39: 1, Romney hasn't paid taxes in 10 years.
2. Romney kills unemployed poeple.
3. Ryan wants to push grandma over a cliff.
4. Republicans want to put you in chains.

Yeah, about that Potemkin village and people looking crazy....


Oooh, I love this game!

1: Obama wants to deny the military the right to vote
2: Obama wants to kill small business
3: Obama wants to put your grandmother in front of a death panel
4: Obama hates rich people
5: Obama hates white people
6: Obama is a secret muslim
7: Obama is a secret atheist
8: Obama wasn't born in the US
9: Obama wants to destroy capitalism and install a socialist state
10: Obama led a federal takeover of healthcare
11: Obama's gonna take your guns

BONUS ROUND!
12: John Kerry didn't earn his purple heart
13: Al Gore claims to have invented the internet
14: Bill Clinton killed Vince Foster
 
2012-08-15 07:28:14 PM  
A dumb moron once said: What's sauce for the goose is sauce for the gander.

img28.imageshack.us
 
2012-08-15 07:29:25 PM  

tenpoundsofcheese: 0bama had 100% control. He could have created his own budgets and compromised on the negotiations, voila No rating downgrade.


And by compromised, you really mean cave to the GOP's demands right?
 
2012-08-15 07:29:37 PM  

tenpoundsofcheese: Coyo
tenpounds, are you really admitting that congress was obstructionist? You better be careful or they will stop paying you to deflect the fact that the Republicans are actively trying to keep the unemployment rate up (remember a full percent from that number is due to public employee layoffs) and suppress the flow of capitol from the economy.

OMG. Can you imagine that congress would not just roll over and do whatever the President wanted. That has never, ever happened before. It has also never happened that congress would ask the President to compromise on what they thought was important. What also has never compromised is that the President was unwilling to compromise, unable to create any budgets in his first two years, and was willing to roll the dice with the rating in order to later blame republicans.

0bama had 100% control. He could have created his own budgets and compromised on the negotiations, voila No rating downgrade.


Thanks for worrying about my being paid. Don't worry, that is secure. Especially after things last Friday.



Which side are you really working for? I'm amused. Nice lie about the President being unwilling to compromise with B0hner. It was the tea party who would move a single inch. Not even B0hner could control them.
 
2012-08-15 07:31:05 PM  

HeartBurnKid: cchris_39: 1, Romney hasn't paid taxes in 10 years.

14: Bill Clinton killed Vince Foster


Bill Clinton didn't kill vince Foster. But he did kill those kids who caught them smuggling in drugs in Arkansas.
 
2012-08-15 07:31:25 PM  

WombatControl: And again, this thread proves my point - the left can't think beyond bumper-sticker slogans.


The fact you don't get the irony in this statement makes me very very sad.

DON'T TREAD ON ME!
DRILL BABY DRILL!
TAXED ENOUGH ALREADY!
TERM LIMITS!
FREE MARKETS!
CROSS-BORDER COMPETITION!
TORT REFORM!
 
2012-08-15 07:31:44 PM  
This argument over who caused the debt ceiling standoff last summer is ridiculous. Raising the debt ceiling was a standard vote that went through multiple times previously. Suddenly Obama gets elected, a certain segment of the electorate goes bonkers, and the 2010 elections sweep in a bunch of 'reformers' wanting to 'take the country back'. They won't go for anything that includes 'additional revenue'. Not even a marginal tax bump on the 1% that have benefited the most from the last thirty years of tax cuts or bust policies. These people are disgusting and traitors. Compromise? Absolutely not.

I'm happy to be on the opposite side of the political aisle of:

Koch Brothers
Donald Trump
Sheldon Adelson
Ted Nugent
Michelle Bachmann
Karl Rove
Dick Cheney
Big Pharma
Big Oil
Idiots who cheer for the notion of letting an uninsured person die
Idiots who boo an American serving in the military who happens to be gay
Rush Limbaugh
Ann Coulter
Idiots who want the government out of their Medicare
Idiots who idolize Ayn Rand
Idiots who believe in 'personhood'
Idiots who believe that President Obama is a 'sekrit moozlin borned in Kenya'
Idiots who think it's ok to scream 'Jobs!Jobs!Jobs!' and then spend 80% of their time fighting against women's health issues
Idiots who think Romney and Ryan are fighting for the middle class

/Is this a great country or what?
 
2012-08-15 07:33:03 PM  

tenpoundsofcheese: Coyo
tenpounds, are you really admitting that congress was obstructionist? You better be careful or they will stop paying you to deflect the fact that the Republicans are actively trying to keep the unemployment rate up (remember a full percent from that number is due to public employee layoffs) and suppress the flow of capitol from the economy.

OMG. Can you imagine that congress would not just roll over and do whatever the President wanted. That has never, ever happened before. It has also never happened that congress would ask the President to compromise on what they thought was important. What also has never compromised is that the President was unwilling to compromise, unable to create any budgets in his first two years, and was willing to roll the dice with the rating in order to later blame republicans.

0bama had 100% control. He could have created his own budgets and compromised on the negotiations, voila No rating downgrade.


Thanks for worrying about my being paid. Don't worry, that is secure. Especially after things last Friday.


Wait Obama had %100 control of congress and gets to make his own budgets? 

When was this? When did the role of president change? I know I am Canadian but I think that is not the way your govenment works.

Any experts want to chime in?
 
2012-08-15 07:41:02 PM  

emotion_lotion: 0bama had 100% control. He could have created his own budgets and compromised on the negotiations, voila No rating downgrade.


Thanks for worrying about my being paid. Don't worry, that is secure. Especially after things last Friday.

Wait Obama had %100 control of congress and gets to make his own budgets? 

When was this? When did the role of president change? I know I am Canadian but I think that is not the way your govenment works.


well, since you are Canadian, I will bold some words and try to use small words for you.

0bama was unwilling to compromise. If he did and if he had been a leader and worked with his own party to pass budgets, it would have been fine.

Too busy campaigning (even back then) and playing golf, I guess.
 
2012-08-15 07:42:28 PM  

Mrtraveler01: tenpoundsofcheese: 0bama had 100% control. He could have created his own budgets and compromised on the negotiations, voila No rating downgrade.

And by compromised, you really mean cave to the GOP's demands right?


Well, if he is that incompetent a politician and negotiator, then yes, he would need to cave. I thought you thought he was smart and a great politician?
 
2012-08-15 07:43:02 PM  
Romney keeps railing about how Obama has no plan, no answers, but really, Romney's got even less. Much less, not enough to even formulate a plan based on a fairly comprehensive plan his own VP pick has created. Obama's actually gotten stuff done that will ultimately do some good. Romney seems to just be making the case that he's not Obama.

Hell, when asked about how he would handle a particular hypothetical situation, he answered something like, "I'd look at what Obama did, then do the opposite of that." That's the plan? Really?

Apparently that flies pretty well with the pointy hat crowd.
 
2012-08-15 07:43:19 PM  

tenpoundsofcheese: well, since you are Canadian, I will bold some words and try to use small words for you.

0bama was unwilling to compromise. If he did and if he had been a leader and worked with his own party to pass budgets, it would have been fine.

Too busy campaigning (even back then) and playing golf, I guess.


The budget had been passed moran. That's not that the debt ceiling was about.
 
2012-08-15 07:45:31 PM  

tenpoundsofcheese: 0bama was unwilling to compromise. If he did and if he had been a leader and worked with his own party to pass budgets, If he would've just caved in to everything the GOP wanted regardless of how outlandish and unrealistic it was... it would have been fine.


FTFY
 
2012-08-15 07:46:29 PM  

tenpoundsofcheese: Mrtraveler01: tenpoundsofcheese: 0bama had 100% control. He could have created his own budgets and compromised on the negotiations, voila No rating downgrade.

And by compromised, you really mean cave to the GOP's demands right?

Well, if he is that incompetent a politician and negotiator, then yes, he would need to cave. I thought you thought he was smart and a great politician?


So by being a great politician, you need to cave to your opposition?

Hmm...Worked for Reagan right? ;)
 
2012-08-15 07:49:04 PM  

tenpoundsofcheese: Mrtraveler01: tenpoundsofcheese: 0bama had 100% control. He could have created his own budgets and compromised on the negotiations, voila No rating downgrade.

And by compromised, you really mean cave to the GOP's demands right?

Well, if he is that incompetent a politician and negotiator, then yes, he would need to cave. I thought you thought he was smart and a great politician?



Cave in to disastrous GOP demands that would harm the country? No thanks.
 
2012-08-15 07:49:53 PM  

WombatControl: And then you lost when the American people rejected them. And now your hero is going to lose too.

I'd say that would wake you up to reality, but I've been around long enough to know that liberals are liberals because they refuse to acknowledge reality.


God, I love people like this. It's always awesome to hear from someone convinced that there are two groups of people - "liberals" (who are exactly the same as socialist Marxist communist Maoist Stalinists), and "The American People," who love apple pie, Chevy trucks, and the American flag, God bless 'em!

You all get that? Liberals aren't American. LIBERALS AREN'T AMERICAN. They're all exactly the same and none of them have anything in common whatsoever with Americans. Technically, they're foreigners with their strange and different views that cleave more thoroughly to those weird European forms of socialism. Why, we only allow them to remain in this country because we're such nice people, not because they're American citizens or anything.

I keep wondering what happens when one of these people who claims to speak for "the American people" runs into an American person who is in favor of gay marriage, socialized medicine, the Department of Education, more public spending on infrastructure, and Barack Obama. Do they just scream and point, or do their heads explode?
 
2012-08-15 07:49:56 PM  

tenpoundsofcheese: emotion_lotion: 0bama had 100% control. He could have created his own budgets and compromised on the negotiations, voila No rating downgrade.


Thanks for worrying about my being paid. Don't worry, that is secure. Especially after things last Friday.

Wait Obama had %100 control of congress and gets to make his own budgets? 

When was this? When did the role of president change? I know I am Canadian but I think that is not the way your govenment works.

well, since you are Canadian, I will bold some words and try to use small words for you.

0bama was unwilling to compromise. If he did and if he had been a leader and worked with his own party to pass budgets, it would have been fine.

Too busy campaigning (even back then) and playing golf, I guess.


Oh ya I forgot about all those articles I read stating the S&P down graded the US due to President Obama's unwillingness to compromise.
 
2012-08-15 07:52:54 PM  

EnviroDude: Reps shot the credit rating to screw the POTUS? How about the out of control spending that was going on at the time by the White House. This is why Obama will not run on his record. It stinks!


Out of control spending on what? Please be specific, we will wait...*crickets*

Oh, you mean the out of control spending from the two mismanaged Bush wars being put back on the books and the 700 billion in loss revenue due to idiotic taxcuts?
 
2012-08-15 07:55:09 PM  

peasandcarrots: WombatControl: And then you lost when the American people rejected them. And now your hero is going to lose too.

I'd say that would wake you up to reality, but I've been around long enough to know that liberals are liberals because they refuse to acknowledge reality.

God, I love people like this. It's always awesome to hear from someone convinced that there are two groups of people - "liberals" (who are exactly the same as socialist Marxist communist Maoist Stalinists), and "The American People," who love apple pie, Chevy trucks, and the American flag, God bless 'em!

You all get that? Liberals aren't American. LIBERALS AREN'T AMERICAN. They're all exactly the same and none of them have anything in common whatsoever with Americans. Technically, they're foreigners with their strange and different views that cleave more thoroughly to those weird European forms of socialism. Why, we only allow them to remain in this country because we're such nice people, not because they're American citizens or anything.

I keep wondering what happens when one of these people who claims to speak for "the American people" runs into an American person who is in favor of gay marriage, socialized medicine, the Department of Education, more public spending on infrastructure, and Barack Obama. Do they just scream and point, or do their heads explode?


That would assume they shambled from their lazyboy to their hoveround long enough to get outside and meet anybody. The only time that happens is when they are heading to the mailbox to get their disability checks.
 
2012-08-15 07:57:46 PM  

Mrtraveler01: Well, if he is that incompetent a politician and negotiator, then yes, he would need to cave. I thought you thought he was smart and a great politician?

So by being a great politician, you need to cave to your opposition?

Hmm...Worked for Reagan right? ;)


Yes.
"He also noted that Reagan wasn't opposed to legislative compromises, getting spending cuts when he could. "He was a practical person," Cannon said. "He would say, let's take some this year and come back next year and take some more."

If he was facing a $15,000,000,000,000 debt I think his actions may have been a bit different than when he face a debt 5 times smaller than that.
 
2012-08-15 07:58:06 PM  

Antimatter: Why do people always say the president's spending is out of control? The President doesn't get to decide how much is spent, congress does. Obama just writes the checks to the amounts they tell him to.


You shush, with your facts and reality.
 
2012-08-15 07:58:47 PM  
Well, we didn't need any more evidence that you can't believe a word Romney says, but we have it anyway.
 
2012-08-15 07:59:08 PM  

coyo: tenpoundsofcheese: Mrtraveler01: tenpoundsofcheese: 0bama had 100% control. He could have created his own budgets and compromised on the negotiations, voila No rating downgrade.

And by compromised, you really mean cave to the GOP's demands right?

Well, if he is that incompetent a politician and negotiator, then yes, he would need to cave. I thought you thought he was smart and a great politician?


Cave in to disastrous GOP demands that would harm the country? No thanks.


so you were okay with the downgrade.
well, so was 0bama, so if you want to whine about the downgrade, blame 0bama.
 
2012-08-15 08:00:28 PM  

emotion_lotion: tenpoundsofcheese: emotion_lotion: 0bama had 100% control. He could have created his own budgets and compromised on the negotiations, voila No rating downgrade.


Thanks for worrying about my being paid. Don't worry, that is secure. Especially after things last Friday.

Wait Obama had %100 control of congress and gets to make his own budgets? 

When was this? When did the role of president change? I know I am Canadian but I think that is not the way your govenment works.

well, since you are Canadian, I will bold some words and try to use small words for you.

0bama was unwilling to compromise. If he did and if he had been a leader and worked with his own party to pass budgets, it would have been fine.

Too busy campaigning (even back then) and playing golf, I guess.

Oh ya I forgot about all those articles I read stating the S&P down graded the US due to President Obama's unwillingness to compromise.


You do understand that the entire world knows that it was the Rebuplican congress that was unwilling to compromise right?
 
2012-08-15 08:00:39 PM  

tenpoundsofcheese: so you were okay with the downgrade.
well, so was 0bama, so if you want to whine about the downgrade, blame 0bama.


No I think people will blame the GOP just S&P did.
 
2012-08-15 08:01:48 PM  

tenpoundsofcheese: coyo: tenpoundsofcheese: Mrtraveler01: tenpoundsofcheese: 0bama had 100% control. He could have created his own budgets and compromised on the negotiations, voila No rating downgrade.

And by compromised, you really mean cave to the GOP's demands right?

Well, if he is that incompetent a politician and negotiator, then yes, he would need to cave. I thought you thought he was smart and a great politician?


Cave in to disastrous GOP demands that would harm the country? No thanks.

so you were okay with the downgrade.
well, so was 0bama, so if you want to whine about the downgrade, blame 0bama.



I put the blame for the downgrade 100% on Congress.
 
2012-08-15 08:02:12 PM  

emotion_lotion: Oh ya I forgot about all those articles I read stating the S&P down graded the US due to President Obama's unwillingness to compromise.


"The downgrade reflects our opinion that the fiscal consolidation plan that Congress and the Administration recently agreed to falls short of what, in our view, would be necessary to stabilize the government's medium-term debt dynamics.

- More broadly, the downgrade reflects our view that the effectiveness, stability, and predictability of American policymaking and political institutions have weakened at a time of ongoing fiscal and economic challenges to a degree more than we envisioned when we assigned a negative outlook to the rating on April 18, 2011.

- Since then, we have changed our view of the difficulties in bridging the gulf between the political parties over fiscal policy, which makes us pessimistic about the capacity of Congress and the Administration to be able to leverage their agreement this week into a broader fiscal consolidation plan that stabilizes the government's debt dynamics any time soon."
 
2012-08-15 08:02:20 PM  

tenpoundsofcheese: Mrtraveler01: Well, if he is that incompetent a politician and negotiator, then yes, he would need to cave. I thought you thought he was smart and a great politician?

So by being a great politician, you need to cave to your opposition?

Hmm...Worked for Reagan right? ;)

Yes.
"He also noted that Reagan wasn't opposed to legislative compromises, getting spending cuts when he could. "He was a practical person," Cannon said. "He would say, let's take some this year and come back next year and take some more."

If he was facing a $15,000,000,000,000 debt I think his actions may have been a bit different than when he face a debt 5 times smaller than that.


Yeah, it isn't like he tripled the deficit or anything... totally fiscally conservative!
 
2012-08-15 08:03:08 PM  

Halli: tenpoundsofcheese: so you were okay with the downgrade.
well, so was 0bama, so if you want to whine about the downgrade, blame 0bama.

No I think people will blame the GOP just S&P did.


"The downgrade reflects our opinion that the fiscal consolidation plan that Congress and the Administration recently agreed to falls short of what, in our view, would be necessary to stabilize the government's medium-term debt dynamics.

- More broadly, the downgrade reflects our view that the effectiveness, stability, and predictability of American policymaking and political institutions have weakened at a time of ongoing fiscal and economic challenges to a degree more than we envisioned when we assigned a negative outlook to the rating on April 18, 2011.

- Since then, we have changed our view of the difficulties in bridging the gulf between the political parties over fiscal policy, which makes us pessimistic about the capacity of Congress and the Administration to be able to leverage their agreement this week into a broader fiscal consolidation plan that stabilizes the government's debt dynamics any time soon."

Yeah, about that.
 
2012-08-15 08:03:38 PM  

tenpoundsofcheese: emotion_lotion: Oh ya I forgot about all those articles I read stating the S&P down graded the US due to President Obama's unwillingness to compromise.

"The downgrade reflects our opinion that the fiscal consolidation plan that Congress and the Administration recently agreed to falls short of what, in our view, would be necessary to stabilize the government's medium-term debt dynamics.

- More broadly, the downgrade reflects our view that the effectiveness, stability, and predictability of American policymaking and political institutions have weakened at a time of ongoing fiscal and economic challenges to a degree more than we envisioned when we assigned a negative outlook to the rating on April 18, 2011.

- Since then, we have changed our view of the difficulties in bridging the gulf between the political parties over fiscal policy, which makes us pessimistic about the capacity of Congress and the Administration to be able to leverage their agreement this week into a broader fiscal consolidation plan that stabilizes the government's debt dynamics any time soon."


Totally Obama's fault NOT the Republicans in Congress!
 
2012-08-15 08:04:22 PM  

tenpoundsofcheese: emotion_lotion: Oh ya I forgot about all those articles I read stating the S&P down graded the US due to President Obama's unwillingness to compromise.

"The downgrade reflects our opinion that the fiscal consolidation plan that Congress and the Administration recently agreed to falls short of what, in our view, would be necessary to stabilize the government's medium-term debt dynamics.

- More broadly, the downgrade reflects our view that the effectiveness, stability, and predictability of American policymaking and political institutions have weakened at a time of ongoing fiscal and economic challenges to a degree more than we envisioned when we assigned a negative outlook to the rating on April 18, 2011.

- Since then, we have changed our view of the difficulties in bridging the gulf between the political parties over fiscal policy, which makes us pessimistic about the capacity of Congress and the Administration to be able to leverage their agreement this week into a broader fiscal consolidation plan that stabilizes the government's debt dynamics any time soon."



This damns rather than absolves congress.
 
2012-08-15 08:04:56 PM  

tenpoundsofcheese: If he was facing a $15,000,000,000,000 debt I think his actions may have been a bit different than when he face a debt 5 times smaller than that.


So he wouldn't raise taxes now like he did back in the 1980s multiple times?
 
2012-08-15 08:05:06 PM  

tenpoundsofcheese: emotion_lotion: Oh ya I forgot about all those articles I read stating the S&P down graded the US due to President Obama's unwillingness to compromise.

"The downgrade reflects our opinion that the fiscal consolidation plan that Congress and the Administration recently agreed to falls short of what, in our view, would be necessary to stabilize the government's medium-term debt dynamics.

- More broadly, the downgrade reflects our view that the effectiveness, stability, and predictability of American policymaking and political institutions have weakened at a time of ongoing fiscal and economic challenges to a degree more than we envisioned when we assigned a negative outlook to the rating on April 18, 2011.

- Since then, we have changed our view of the difficulties in bridging the gulf between the political parties over fiscal policy, which makes us pessimistic about the capacity of Congress and the Administration to be able to leverage their agreement this week into a broader fiscal consolidation plan that stabilizes the government's debt dynamics any time soon."


That poor, poor chicken...
 
2012-08-15 08:06:19 PM  

tenpoundsofcheese: Halli: tenpoundsofcheese: so you were okay with the downgrade.
well, so was 0bama, so if you want to whine about the downgrade, blame 0bama.

No I think people will blame the GOP just S&P did.

"The downgrade reflects our opinion that the fiscal consolidation plan that Congress and the Administration recently agreed to falls short of what, in our view, would be necessary to stabilize the government's medium-term debt dynamics.

- More broadly, the downgrade reflects our view that the effectiveness, stability, and predictability of American policymaking and political institutions have weakened at a time of ongoing fiscal and economic challenges to a degree more than we envisioned when we assigned a negative outlook to the rating on April 18, 2011.

- Since then, we have changed our view of the difficulties in bridging the gulf between the political parties over fiscal policy, which makes us pessimistic about the capacity of Congress and the Administration to be able to leverage their agreement this week into a broader fiscal consolidation plan that stabilizes the government's debt dynamics any time soon."

Yeah, about that.


This doesn't absolve congress and you left out all the parts about how GOP political brinkmanship over the debt ceiling debate was a huge factor in the downgrade.
 
2012-08-15 08:10:22 PM  

iaazathot: tenpoundsofcheese: emotion_lotion: Oh ya I forgot about all those articles I read stating the S&P down graded the US due to President Obama's unwillingness to compromise.

"The downgrade reflects our opinion that the fiscal consolidation plan that Congress and the Administration recently agreed to falls short of what, in our view, would be necessary to stabilize the government's medium-term debt dynamics.

- More broadly, the downgrade reflects our view that the effectiveness, stability, and predictability of American policymaking and political institutions have weakened at a time of ongoing fiscal and economic challenges to a degree more than we envisioned when we assigned a negative outlook to the rating on April 18, 2011.

- Since then, we have changed our view of the difficulties in bridging the gulf between the political parties over fiscal policy, which makes us pessimistic about the capacity of Congress and the Administration to be able to leverage their agreement this week into a broader fiscal consolidation plan that stabilizes the government's debt dynamics any time soon."

That poor, poor chicken...


It could be that when 10poc sees "Congress and the Administration" his brain just goes OBAMA !!!!
 
2012-08-15 08:10:30 PM  
Awww, did tenpoundsofderp run away?
 
2012-08-15 08:11:36 PM  

emotion_lotion: iaazathot: tenpoundsofcheese: emotion_lotion: Oh ya I forgot about all those articles I read stating the S&P down graded the US due to President Obama's unwillingness to compromise.

"The downgrade reflects our opinion that the fiscal consolidation plan that Congress and the Administration recently agreed to falls short of what, in our view, would be necessary to stabilize the government's medium-term debt dynamics.

- More broadly, the downgrade reflects our view that the effectiveness, stability, and predictability of American policymaking and political institutions have weakened at a time of ongoing fiscal and economic challenges to a degree more than we envisioned when we assigned a negative outlook to the rating on April 18, 2011.

- Since then, we have changed our view of the difficulties in bridging the gulf between the political parties over fiscal policy, which makes us pessimistic about the capacity of Congress and the Administration to be able to leverage their agreement this week into a broader fiscal consolidation plan that stabilizes the government's debt dynamics any time soon."

That poor, poor chicken...

It could be that when 10poc sees "Congress and the Administration" his brain just goes OBAMA !!!!


Or, the chicken anus is just too irresistible.
 
2012-08-15 08:14:38 PM  
Yeah, when I heard the NPR piece on this, I just busted out laughing. It just screamed, "please, please, please talking about anything I have done and just give me the presidency already!"
 
2012-08-15 08:15:08 PM  

iaazathot: emotion_lotion: iaazathot: tenpoundsofcheese: emotion_lotion: Oh ya I forgot about all those articles I read stating the S&P down graded the US due to President Obama's unwillingness to compromise.

"The downgrade reflects our opinion that the fiscal consolidation plan that Congress and the Administration recently agreed to falls short of what, in our view, would be necessary to stabilize the government's medium-term debt dynamics.

- More broadly, the downgrade reflects our view that the effectiveness, stability, and predictability of American policymaking and political institutions have weakened at a time of ongoing fiscal and economic challenges to a degree more than we envisioned when we assigned a negative outlook to the rating on April 18, 2011.

- Since then, we have changed our view of the difficulties in bridging the gulf between the political parties over fiscal policy, which makes us pessimistic about the capacity of Congress and the Administration to be able to leverage their agreement this week into a broader fiscal consolidation plan that stabilizes the government's debt dynamics any time soon."

That poor, poor chicken...

It could be that when 10poc sees "Congress and the Administration" his brain just goes OBAMA !!!!

Or, the chicken anus is just too irresistible.


Fair enough, I must admit I have never looked closely at a chicken anus, perhaps it is time.
 
2012-08-15 08:17:58 PM  

emotion_lotion: emotion_lotion: tenpoundsofcheese: emotion_lotion: 0bama had 100% control. He could have created his own budgets and compromised on the negotiations, voila No rating downgrade.


Thanks for worrying about my being paid. Don't worry, that is secure. Especially after things last Friday.

Wait Obama had %100 control of congress and gets to make his own budgets? 

When was this? When did the role of president change? I know I am Canadian but I think that is not the way your govenment works.

well, since you are Canadian, I will bold some words and try to use small words for you.

0bama was unwilling to compromise. If he did and if he had been a leader and worked with his own party to pass budgets, it would have been fine.

Too busy campaigning (even back then) and playing golf, I guess.

Oh ya I forgot about all those articles I read stating the S&P down graded the US due to President Obama's unwillingness to compromise.

You do understand that the entire world knows that it was the Rebuplican congress that was unwilling to compromise right?


That would mean acknowledging reality, and he can't do that.
 
2012-08-15 08:20:10 PM  

emotion_lotion: iaazathot: emotion_lotion: iaazathot: tenpoundsofcheese: emotion_lotion: Oh ya I forgot about all those articles I read stating the S&P down graded the US due to President Obama's unwillingness to compromise.

"The downgrade reflects our opinion that the fiscal consolidation plan that Congress and the Administration recently agreed to falls short of what, in our view, would be necessary to stabilize the government's medium-term debt dynamics.

- More broadly, the downgrade reflects our view that the effectiveness, stability, and predictability of American policymaking and political institutions have weakened at a time of ongoing fiscal and economic challenges to a degree more than we envisioned when we assigned a negative outlook to the rating on April 18, 2011.

- Since then, we have changed our view of the difficulties in bridging the gulf between the political parties over fiscal policy, which makes us pessimistic about the capacity of Congress and the Administration to be able to leverage their agreement this week into a broader fiscal consolidation plan that stabilizes the government's debt dynamics any time soon."

That poor, poor chicken...

It could be that when 10poc sees "Congress and the Administration" his brain just goes OBAMA !!!!

Or, the chicken anus is just too irresistible.

Fair enough, I must admit I have never looked closely at a chicken anus, perhaps it is time.


Well, TPOC can tell you all about its wonders.
 
2012-08-15 08:23:12 PM  

Halli: This doesn't absolve congress and you left out all the parts about how GOP political brinkmanship over the debt ceiling debate was a huge factor in the downgrade.


What outcome would have resulted in the credit rating not being downgraded?

The debt remained, we continued to make payments, the limit was raised. Obama could have headed this off at the pass by promising to cut the deficit in half during his first 2 budgets - like he promised. He had the Senate and the House and could have done it relatively easily. he got every other piece of legislation that he wanted.

He never went through the budget line by line to eliminate programs or cut the deficit. he never kicked out lobbyists and Wall street still got theirs. Just try once to admit he's failed as a president on the economy. We've had the bailouts, QE1, 2, 3, etc, the auto companies got "saved", Welfare to work requirement was eliminated, the illegals get to stay,

Oh wait, you're one of those people who think that our economy stinks because things arent "fair' Never mind then...
 
2012-08-15 08:25:47 PM  

o5iiawah: Halli: This doesn't absolve congress and you left out all the parts about how GOP political brinkmanship over the debt ceiling debate was a huge factor in the downgrade.

What outcome would have resulted in the credit rating not being downgraded?

The debt remained, we continued to make payments, the limit was raised. Obama could have headed this off at the pass by promising to cut the deficit in half during his first 2 budgets - like he promised. He had the Senate and the House and could have done it relatively easily. he got every other piece of legislation that he wanted.

He never went through the budget line by line to eliminate programs or cut the deficit. he never kicked out lobbyists and Wall street still got theirs. Just try once to admit he's failed as a president on the economy. We've had the bailouts, QE1, 2, 3, etc, the auto companies got "saved", Welfare to work requirement was eliminated, the illegals get to stay,

Oh wait, you're one of those people who think that our economy stinks because things arent "fair' Never mind then...


Dude, if lies is all you have, your doomed.
 
2012-08-15 08:27:55 PM  

iaazathot: o5iiawah: Halli: This doesn't absolve congress and you left out all the parts about how GOP political brinkmanship over the debt ceiling debate was a huge factor in the downgrade.

What outcome would have resulted in the credit rating not being downgraded?

The debt remained, we continued to make payments, the limit was raised. Obama could have headed this off at the pass by promising to cut the deficit in half during his first 2 budgets - like he promised. He had the Senate and the House and could have done it relatively easily. he got every other piece of legislation that he wanted.

He never went through the budget line by line to eliminate programs or cut the deficit. he never kicked out lobbyists and Wall street still got theirs. Just try once to admit he's failed as a president on the economy. We've had the bailouts, QE1, 2, 3, etc, the auto companies got "saved", Welfare to work requirement was eliminated, the illegals get to stay,

Oh wait, you're one of those people who think that our economy stinks because things arent "fair' Never mind then...

Dude, if lies is all you have, your you're doomed.

 
2012-08-15 08:28:57 PM  
i.imgur.com
"I certainly think bipartisanship ought to consist of Democrats coming to the Republican point of view."


Yeah, I can't imagine why this party has a hard time noticing the flaws in their own thinking.
 
2012-08-15 08:29:27 PM  

o5iiawah: Halli: This doesn't absolve congress and you left out all the parts about how GOP political brinkmanship over the debt ceiling debate was a huge factor in the downgrade.

What outcome would have resulted in the credit rating not being downgraded?

The debt remained, we continued to make payments, the limit was raised. Obama could have headed this off at the pass by promising to cut the deficit in half during his first 2 budgets - like he promised. He had the Senate and the House and could have done it relatively easily. he got every other piece of legislation that he wanted.

He never went through the budget line by line to eliminate programs or cut the deficit. he never kicked out lobbyists and Wall street still got theirs. Just try once to admit he's failed as a president on the economy. We've had the bailouts, QE1, 2, 3, etc, the auto companies got "saved", Welfare to work requirement was eliminated, the illegals get to stay,

Oh wait, you're one of those people who think that our economy stinks because things arent "fair' Never mind then...


So you're just ignoring the whole debt ceiling thing? Good for you.
 
2012-08-15 08:38:48 PM  

EnviroDude: Reps shot the credit rating to screw the POTUS? How about the out of control spending that was going on at the time by the White House. This is why Obama will not run on his record. It stinks!


My 401k has tripled since Obama took office. It sat stagnant for the last 1.5 years of the Bush administration. Obama has done fine considering the worldwide bullshiat. I guess some lazy bastards will never ever be farking happy huh?
 
2012-08-15 08:57:41 PM  
"You cause the downgrade to our credit rating!"

That's funny, I remember back when absolutely everything was the presidents fault, but really. When two sides refuse to give on something it's kind of funny to watch one of them blame the other for the bad result.

The completely out of control spending, massive deficits, and no end to either are what down graded our credit by the way.
 
2012-08-15 09:02:53 PM  

randomjsa: "You cause the downgrade to our credit rating!"

That's funny, I remember back when absolutely everything was the presidents fault, but really. When two sides refuse to give on something it's kind of funny to watch one of them blame the other for the bad result.

The completely out of control spending, massive deficits, and no end to either are what down graded our credit by the way.


Funny I remember the democrats giving what Boehner admitted was 90% of what they wanted and the Republicans still refusing to compromise. I wish the Democrats blocked more of Bushes policies, we may be in a better positon today if they did.
 
2012-08-15 09:49:51 PM  

o5iiawah: Halli: This doesn't absolve congress and you left out all the parts about how GOP political brinkmanship over the debt ceiling debate was a huge factor in the downgrade.

What outcome would have resulted in the credit rating not being downgraded?

The debt remained, we continued to make payments, the limit was raised. Obama could have headed this off at the pass by promising to cut the deficit in half during his first 2 budgets - like he promised. He had the Senate and the House and could have done it relatively easily. he got every other piece of legislation that he wanted.

He never went through the budget line by line to eliminate programs or cut the deficit. he never kicked out lobbyists and Wall street still got theirs. Just try once to admit he's failed as a president on the economy. We've had the bailouts, QE1, 2, 3, etc, the auto companies got "saved", Welfare to work requirement was eliminated, the illegals get to stay,

Oh wait, you're one of those people who think that our economy stinks because things arent "fair' Never mind then...


3.bp.blogspot.com
 
2012-08-15 10:26:53 PM  
Romney. He's given up on using his record, or his skill set, or his personality, and is just following a script given to him by the people paying for his campaign now.

And those folks are nuts.

It's looking good... for Obama.
 
2012-08-15 11:45:06 PM  

StewPie: This argument over who caused the debt ceiling standoff last summer is ridiculous.


Yes, yes it is. It's even more ridiculous people are defending Republicans on this, and claiming the Democrats as to blame, as if their own party leadership hadn't already acknowledged culpability for it.

"We got 98% of what we wanted...." -John Boehner
"The single most important thing we want to achieve is for President Obama to be a one-term president." -Mitch McConnell

Especially when Paul Ryan himself, along with Eric Cantor in the House and McConnell in the Senate, torpedoed the "Grand Compromise" that would have averted the credit rating downgrade, on the auspice would would make Obama's re-election easier.

There is no argument. There are a bunch of partisan loons blatantly denying reality that even their own affiliated party's leadership acknowledge. Those people are exorbitantly stupid, and should be ignored at all costs as even acknowledging their derp enough to debunk or provide counterpoints is more credibility than they deserve.
 
2012-08-15 11:52:08 PM  
when did skinnyhead change his username to tenpoundsofcheese ?
 
2012-08-16 12:22:33 AM  

EnviroDude: Reps shot the credit rating to screw the POTUS? How about the out of control spending that was going on at the time by the White House. This is why Obama will not run on his record. It stinks!


TOTES BGOTES BRAH, HIS RECORD STINKS!

But let's come back to reality. Our credit rating was downgraded because of GOP brinksmanship. Your argument is invalid. It's a beautiful nonsequitor. It's the equivalent of waving your arms around and screaming "BOOGITY BOOGITY."

Your shiat's all banged up, yo.
 
2012-08-16 12:25:30 AM  
It's seriously sad and a little frightening how conservatives ignore the words spoken by their own leaders and figureheads that are literally an admission of their guilt in the way things are now. Then add in how they openly proclaim that their goal is to turn America into a misogynist, homophobic, Christian theocracy, rich man's paradise where the middle-class and poor have no health coverage and welfare babies are popping out all over because they can't stop clinging to proven failure that is abstinace-only who then fail at being educated in schools that tossed out science and math for creationism and Jesus studies, and it gets a lot more frightening.
 
2012-08-16 12:39:26 AM  
do you think the downgrade had anything to do with the 15 trillion dollar debt?
 
2012-08-16 01:00:56 AM  

thrgd456: do you think the downgrade had anything to do with the 15 trillion dollar debt?


Nope, not a thing.

The downgrade was due to legislature members trying to keep America from paying what is owed. Like a resteraunt patron trying to dash out the door without paying.
 
2012-08-16 01:21:37 AM  

randomjsa: "You cause the downgrade to our credit rating!"

That's funny, I remember back when absolutely everything was the presidents fault, but really. When two sides refuse to give on something it's kind of funny to watch one of them blame the other for the bad result.

The completely out of control spending, massive deficits, and no end to either are what down graded our credit by the way.


Yeah, you're a fine one to talk about being fair and balanced this late in the game.

Now go play with yourself, the grownups are talking.
 
2012-08-16 01:21:59 AM  
Hello, is this the party that claimed, during a time of war, that it's primary goal was to defeat the President of the United States of America?

That's real patriotic of you there. Looking forward to hearing your plans to give the Iraq and Afghan vets the same respect and care you gave the guys who were injured in Viet Nam.
 
2012-08-16 01:36:36 AM  

Jackson Herring: "President Fartbangbus is so out of touch with average Americans that he owns a dancing horse. Can you believe that shiat? An actual horse that dances!" - The Romney campaign


sweetmelissa31: "President Willard Hussein Oromney opposed the Detroit auto bailout and then tried to take credit for it." -The Romney campaign


This is why you are both on my favorites.
 
2012-08-16 02:22:06 AM  

valar_morghulis: EnviroDude: Reps shot the credit rating to screw the POTUS? How about the out of control spending that was going on at the time by the White House. This is why Obama will not run on his record. It stinks!

TOTES BGOTES BRAH, HIS RECORD STINKS!

But let's come back to reality. Our credit rating was downgraded because of GOP brinksmanship. Your argument is invalid. It's a beautiful nonsequitor. It's the equivalent of waving your arms around and screaming "BOOGITY BOOGITY."

Your shiat's all banged up, yo.


What exactly was the impact of this "credit ratings" drop?

Lets see mortgage rates are down... the average rate the government pays for debt is down from 4.08 when it was cut to 3.12 now....

The US government is not the same as Bobs Tire and Lube. It does not need approval from finance guys who arent smart enough to run their own companies to get the best loan from someone.

If this downgrade truly WAS because of news reports that we MIGHT not pay our debt because of Republican threats (which was never ACTUALLY on the table - despite the misinterpretations in the press) and not on actual financial facts, than the downgrade itself was likely a political ploy. The world KNOWS we arent going to default, which is why this has had little to no effect on rates.
 
2012-08-16 02:23:23 AM  
okay, I misread the graph, its about 3.3 now, but still lower.
 
2012-08-16 05:06:38 AM  

Gyrfalcon: Yeah, you're a fine one to talk about being fair and balanced this late in the game.

Now go play with yourself, the grownups are talking.


And one day, we will let you talk with us.
 
2012-08-16 05:17:22 AM  
WombatControl

[nate_silver_538_chart.jpg]

Cry some more, ya.
 
2012-08-16 05:42:50 AM  
"Governor Romney's comments tonight seemed unhinged, and particularly strange coming at a time when he's pouring tens of millions of dollars into negative ads that are demonstrably false," said Obama spokesman Ben LaBolt."

This coming from a campaign that has also been running "negative ads that are demonstrably false" about Romney
 
2012-08-16 05:43:58 AM  
cdn.timesofisrael.com
Yeah Mitt, just give us 5, we got this, you putz.
 
2012-08-16 05:48:43 AM  

Cloudchaser Sakonige the Red Wolf: "Governor Romney's comments tonight seemed unhinged, and particularly strange coming at a time when he's pouring tens of millions of dollars into negative ads that are demonstrably false," said Obama spokesman Ben LaBolt."

This coming from a campaign that has also been running "negative ads that are demonstrably false" about Romney


Who said something false about Romney?
 
2012-08-16 07:45:07 AM  
Wow, thanks a lot resident right-wing shiposters for ruining another thread.
 
2012-08-16 07:58:53 AM  
Summary of TFTA and this thread: "Derp."
 
2012-08-16 08:51:41 AM  
I can just see the unemployed citizen (who bought gas at double the price it was when Obama took over) drive his 10 year old car to the voting place and saying "You know, I'm not voting for a guy that belongs to the party that caused our credit rating to be downgraded."
 
2012-08-16 08:56:42 AM  

Barricaded Gunman: EnviroDude: Reps shot the credit rating to screw the POTUS? How about the out of control spending that was going on at the time by the White House. This is why Obama will not run on his record. It stinks!

Demonstrating a profound lack of understanding of the topic is generally not considered an optimal opening gambit. But hell, go with it.


25.media.tumblr.com
 
2012-08-16 09:01:45 AM  

Cat Food Sandwiches: I can just see the unemployed citizen (who bought gas at double the price it was when Obama took over) drive his 10 year old car to the voting place and saying "You know, I'm not voting for a guy that belongs to the party that caused our credit rating to be downgraded."


No they will drive there because Romney and Republican policies will take money from his paycheck so that Romney can pay 0.82% in taxes.
 
2012-08-16 09:06:22 AM  

WombatControl: It's funny to see the groupthink in action. Of course Mitt Romney is the embodiment of all that is evil and will surely lose the election by at least 10 billion percent, as the entire European Union merges with the US just to vote against him. And let's all talk about how evil and heartless and cruel he is a million times over so that we can continue to reinforce our preconceived worldview!

Get over it. Romney has his issues, to be sure, but all the stupid little Fark Liberal™ groupthink bullshiat isn't going to change the facts. The economy is stuck, people are hurting, and all Obama can do is make snide attacks against Romney while passing the buck on his own record. Instead of talking about fixing Medicare (which, by the way, Medicare Part A is already going insolvent as it's spending more than it's taking in), Obama wants to scare people. Instead of tackling the debt, Obama is promising more spending. Instead of talking about building jobs, Obama is biatching that Mitt Romney won't release his tax records, dental exams, and the results of his last prostate screening.

Grow the fark up.

You can keep up the circlejerk as much as you want. Keep pretending like Obama is the brilliant political genius and Mitt Romney is an idiot. It won't make it true, and the more you burrow into a world of self-indulgent fantasy the more fun it's going to be when reality comes calling.

You had your opportunity to show the world how great left-wing policies would be. You got your Keynesian stimulus and your nationalized health care. And then you lost when the American people rejected them. And now your hero is going to lose too.

I'd say that would wake you up to reality, but I've been around long enough to know that liberals are liberals because they refuse to acknowledge reality.


The moment I see some of these "left wing policies" actually get past the republican obstructionist @ssclowns in the house and senate is the point in which you can actually complain about them, and not before.

Tool.
 
2012-08-16 09:12:02 AM  

Alphax: Who said something false about Romney?


They've been quoting him. That's misrepresentation by pointing out what he actually said.
 
2012-08-16 09:17:37 AM  

tenpoundsofcheese: "The downgrade reflects our opinion that the fiscal consolidation plan that Congress and the Administration recently agreed to falls short of what, in our view, would be necessary to stabilize the government's medium-term debt dynamics.

- More broadly, the downgrade reflects our view that the effectiveness, stability, and predictability of American policymaking and political institutions have weakened at a time of ongoing fiscal and economic challenges to a degree more than we envisioned when we assigned a negative outlook to the rating on April 18, 2011.

- Since then, we have changed our view of the difficulties in bridging the gulf between the political parties over fiscal policy, which makes us pessimistic about the capacity of Congress and the Administration to be able to leverage their agreement this week into a broader fiscal consolidation plan that stabilizes the government's debt dynamics any time soon."

This is a failure of 0bama's leadership. He is unable to work with both sides and actually compromise.
"The Buck Stops Here" - something 0bama needs to learn and take responsibility. It isn't as if there was nothing he could do to prevent it...he had it in his power to prevent it and he did not.


img.myconfinedspace.com
 
2012-08-16 09:22:06 AM  

tenpoundsofcheese: Coyo
tenpounds, are you really admitting that congress was obstructionist? You better be careful or they will stop paying you to deflect the fact that the Republicans are actively trying to keep the unemployment rate up (remember a full percent from that number is due to public employee layoffs) and suppress the flow of capitol from the economy.

OMG. Can you imagine that congress would not just roll over and do whatever the President wanted. That has never, ever happened before. It has also never happened that congress would ask the President to compromise on what they thought was important. What also has never compromised is that the President was unwilling to compromise, unable to create any budgets in his first two years, and was willing to roll the dice with the rating in order to later blame republicans.

0bama had 100% control. He could have created his own budgets and compromised on the negotiations, voila No rating downgrade.


Thanks for worrying about my being paid. Don't worry, that is secure. Especially after things last Friday.


So, Republicans "compromising" is " roll over and do whatever the President wants". But when the President refuses to "roll over and do what the Republicans want" it becomes " unwilling to compromise, unable to create any budgets in his first two years, and was willing to roll the dice with the rating in order to later blame republicans".

Got it.
 
2012-08-16 09:22:42 AM  
CheapEngineer

If you're going to use a meme where the text is important, you really should find a copy of it where some dumbass website hasn't smeared its watermark feces over half of the text.
 
2012-08-16 09:28:17 AM  

NateGrey: Cat Food Sandwiches: I can just see the unemployed citizen (who bought gas at double the price it was when Obama took over) drive his 10 year old car to the voting place and saying "You know, I'm not voting for a guy that belongs to the party that caused our credit rating to be downgraded."

No they will drive there because Romney and Republican policies will take money from his paycheck so that Romney can pay 0.82% in taxes.


What paycheck? He's unemployed.
 
2012-08-16 09:30:50 AM  

thrgd456: do you think the downgrade had anything to do with the 15 trillion dollar debt?


The downgrade had a lot to do with the Republicans trying to force a default on the 15 trillion dollar debt, yes.
 
2012-08-16 09:41:39 AM  

Cat Food Sandwiches: What paycheck? He's unemployed.


*Cut his unemployment benefits so the CEO at his old job can pay 0.82% in taxes
 
2012-08-16 10:47:18 AM  
CheapEngineer:

Of course, Obama couldn't get anything done because of the right-wing. Remember when he wanted to pass Obamacare, but he couldn't? Or when he wanted to pass a huge "stimulus" but he couldn't? Or when he wanted to pass a huge "financial reform" bill, but couldn't?

Isn't it funny how everything is the GOP's fault to some people? Even when Obama got his supposed signature achievement passed, the left can't help but attack the GOP.

/ In "1984" the Hate lasted Ten Minutes
// In 2012, the hate never ends...
 
2012-08-16 12:50:23 PM  

WombatControl: CheapEngineer:

Of course, Obama couldn't get anything done because of the right-wing. Remember when he wanted to pass Obamacare, but he couldn't? Or when he wanted to pass a huge "stimulus" but he couldn't? Or when he wanted to pass a huge "financial reform" bill, but couldn't?

Isn't it funny how everything is the GOP's fault to some people? Even when Obama got his supposed signature achievement passed, the left can't help but attack the GOP.

/ In "1984" the Hate lasted Ten Minutes
// In 2012, the hate never ends...


You want a list of things that the Democrats wanted to pass but weren't able to because of Republicans? It's a hell of a lot longer than the list of things that did pass.
 
2012-08-16 01:42:24 PM  
GOP 2012

America: If we can't have you, no one can!
 
2012-08-16 02:36:07 PM  

Bag of Hammers: GOP 2012

America: If we can't have you, no one can!


You laugh, but I'm convinced that the GOP is America's estranged stalker boyfriend.

Think about the usual signs that someone is a stalker. We're talking about people who are convinced that they're the ONLY ones who love America, and that no one can possibly love America like they can. They don't care whether it hurts America or not so long as they're the only ones who get to be with her. But their love is incredibly possessive, as they isolate her from other ideas and opinions.

So they keep harassing America into paying attention to them. No matter how much America says that she doesn't want them, that they're hurting her, they slowly cut her off financially and socially. America might want more financial independence, broader gay rights, better access to healthcare, a stronger infrastructure, and a wider choice in alternative energy providers, but the GOP is going to make sure she's dependent on them for these things or she won't get them at all.

One thing that some stalkers do is force their victims into a position where they have to be rescued - letting the air out of her tires at the mall or something. So the GOP will happily hurt America if it means they can ride to the rescue and win the attention of a rescuer. Finally, after repeated unwanted contact and refusals, the stalker turns angry and threatens violence against the victim. If they can't have her, no one can.

The stalker and the victim may have gone out on a few dates and had a few laughs, but that was years ago. It's over now. America has moved on. She has different priorities and interests now, and those just aren't compatible with the GOP anymore. Threatening to tear her apart if the GOP can't have her is only hurting her, but stalkers are selfish and don't give a damn what's best for their victims, so long as they get their way.
 
2012-08-16 03:43:49 PM  

FirstNationalBastard: CheapEngineer

If you're going to use a meme where the text is important, you really should find a copy of it where some dumbass website hasn't smeared its watermark feces over half of the text.


I blame the microscopic thumbnails of Google Images...
 
2012-08-16 03:46:26 PM  

CheapEngineer: FirstNationalBastard: CheapEngineer

If you're going to use a meme where the text is important, you really should find a copy of it where some dumbass website hasn't smeared its watermark feces over half of the text.

I blame the microscopic thumbnails of Google Images...


Microscopic thumbs are bad, but jackoff websites who put their watermark on a farking picture they just stole off the internet like everyone else did are the real people who should be blamed, and then flogged.
 
2012-08-16 03:48:30 PM  

WombatControl: CheapEngineer:

Of course, Obama couldn't get anything done because of the right-wing. Remember when he wanted to pass Obamacare, but he couldn't? Or when he wanted to pass a huge "stimulus" but he couldn't? Or when he wanted to pass a huge "financial reform" bill, but couldn't?

Isn't it funny how everything is the GOP's fault to some people? Even when Obama got his supposed signature achievement passed, the left can't help but attack the GOP.

/ In "1984" the Hate lasted Ten Minutes
// In 2012, the hate never ends...


Hey, just because you can't keep all your people in lockstep every day doesn't make it *my* fault.

Apparently there were a few bills that a scant few Republicans agreed with. Sometimes that happens - your minions don't always fall in line. You should do something about that. Vote 'em out and replace em with nice pliable Tea Party types - they'll follow orders much better than the old "establishment" Republicans that occasionally feel the need for independent thought.
 
2012-08-16 08:48:26 PM  

Halli: So you're just ignoring the whole debt ceiling thing? Good for you.


What "Debt ceiling thing"???

THE DEBT CEILING GOT RAISED. The government did not shut down. We did not default on any payments. Please explain how this is the House GOP's fault

.

iaazathot: Dude, if lies is all you have, your doomed.


IN other words, you have no argument, so you call my points "lies" Please point to something I"ve said which is untrue.

HeartBurnKid: The downgrade had a lot to do with the Republicans trying to force a default on the 15 trillion dollar debt, yes.


Lies. The republicans never pushed a plan to default on the debt. Even Michelle Bachman, derpy as she may be said the US would never miss a debt payment and that a government shutdown would have nothing to do with the US making payments on its debt.
 
2012-08-16 09:38:01 PM  
Remember, the GOP publicly stated that the most important thing, more important than the citizens of the United States even, is that "Obama is a one-term president".

Why should we continue to support these people, especially when they've been intentionally sabotaging everything that tries to be done?

"Romney's health care system for his state is amazing! YAAAAY!!"
"Obama's taking Romney's plan and applying it to the entire country? EVIL SOCIALIST DEMON MONSTER DESTROYING AMERICA!!!!!"
 
2012-08-17 04:44:52 AM  

o5iiawah: What "Debt ceiling thing"???

THE DEBT CEILING GOT RAISED. The government did not shut down. We did not default on any payments. Please explain how this is the House GOP's fault


Are you serious about this? Were you in a coma while this happened?

o5iiawah: Lies. The republicans never pushed a plan to default on the debt. Even Michelle Bachman, derpy as she may be said the US would never miss a debt payment and that a government shutdown would have nothing to do with the US making payments on its debt.


Many teabaggers pushed for a default. Did you even read why S&P said they did the downgrade?
 
2012-08-17 05:46:19 AM  

Alphax: Cloudchaser Sakonige the Red Wolf: "Governor Romney's comments tonight seemed unhinged, and particularly strange coming at a time when he's pouring tens of millions of dollars into negative ads that are demonstrably false," said Obama spokesman Ben LaBolt."

This coming from a campaign that has also been running "negative ads that are demonstrably false" about Romney

Who said something false about Romney?


Story on one example with links to CNN videos
 
2012-08-17 05:55:38 AM  

Cloudchaser Sakonige the Red Wolf: Alphax: Cloudchaser Sakonige the Red Wolf: "Governor Romney's comments tonight seemed unhinged, and particularly strange coming at a time when he's pouring tens of millions of dollars into negative ads that are demonstrably false," said Obama spokesman Ben LaBolt."

This coming from a campaign that has also been running "negative ads that are demonstrably false" about Romney

Who said something false about Romney?

Story on one example with links to CNN videos


Strike 1. Not even close.
 
2012-08-17 06:20:51 AM  

Alphax: Cloudchaser Sakonige the Red Wolf: Alphax: Cloudchaser Sakonige the Red Wolf: "Governor Romney's comments tonight seemed unhinged, and particularly strange coming at a time when he's pouring tens of millions of dollars into negative ads that are demonstrably false," said Obama spokesman Ben LaBolt."

This coming from a campaign that has also been running "negative ads that are demonstrably false" about Romney

Who said something false about Romney?

Story on one example with links to CNN videos

Strike 1. Not even close.


So you're saying the ad in question wasn't false?
 
2012-08-17 06:34:35 AM  

Cloudchaser Sakonige the Red Wolf: Alphax: Cloudchaser Sakonige the Red Wolf: Alphax: Cloudchaser Sakonige the Red Wolf: "Governor Romney's comments tonight seemed unhinged, and particularly strange coming at a time when he's pouring tens of millions of dollars into negative ads that are demonstrably false," said Obama spokesman Ben LaBolt."

This coming from a campaign that has also been running "negative ads that are demonstrably false" about Romney

Who said something false about Romney?

Story on one example with links to CNN videos

Strike 1. Not even close.

So you're saying the ad in question wasn't false?


Yes. Do you not understand English? Or baseball terms?
 
2012-08-17 04:36:15 PM  

Halli: Are you serious about this? Were you in a coma while this happened?


And again, I ask you if the debt ceiling got raised and if we defaulted on any payments

Many teabaggers pushed for a default. Did you even read why S&P said they did the downgrade?

No, you're lying or stupid. Nobody was pushing for a default. The debt would have continued to be paid. Default does not equal shutdown. I ready every word of the reasons why The S&P downgraded the credit rating. A lot of it had to do with a failure of the government to address the budgetary challenges which goes hand in hand with the president refusing to cut a penny off the budget and thinking that some fairness in taxation linked to the buffett rule is going to raise enough revenue to offset a $1.4Tn deficit. even though it raises half that over 10 years.
 
2012-08-18 01:17:46 AM  

o5iiawah: Many teabaggers pushed for a default.

No, you're lying or stupid.


Teabaggers, most importantly including large numbers of U.S. congresspersons, exploited every procedural bushwack ever conceived to push a default in order to extort compliance with their outrageous self-serving demands.
 
2012-08-18 03:00:29 AM  

Alphax: Cloudchaser Sakonige the Red Wolf: Alphax: Cloudchaser Sakonige the Red Wolf: Alphax: Cloudchaser Sakonige the Red Wolf: "Governor Romney's comments tonight seemed unhinged, and particularly strange coming at a time when he's pouring tens of millions of dollars into negative ads that are demonstrably false," said Obama spokesman Ben LaBolt."

This coming from a campaign that has also been running "negative ads that are demonstrably false" about Romney

Who said something false about Romney?

Story on one example with links to CNN videos

Strike 1. Not even close.

So you're saying the ad in question wasn't false?

Yes. Do you not understand English? Or baseball terms?


So you say it's not true that "Mrs. Soptic maintained her own health insurance for several years after her husband's plant was shut down (two years after Romney left Bain)" and so CNN was knowingly reporting false information?
 
2012-08-18 03:06:43 AM  

Alphax: Cloudchaser Sakonige the Red Wolf: Alphax: Cloudchaser Sakonige the Red Wolf: Alphax: Cloudchaser Sakonige the Red Wolf: "Governor Romney's comments tonight seemed unhinged, and particularly strange coming at a time when he's pouring tens of millions of dollars into negative ads that are demonstrably false," said Obama spokesman Ben LaBolt."

This coming from a campaign that has also been running "negative ads that are demonstrably false" about Romney

Who said something false about Romney?

Story on one example with links to CNN videos

Strike 1. Not even close.

So you're saying the ad in question wasn't false?

Yes. Do you not understand English? Or baseball terms?


Or, to put it another way, if the woman maintained her own health insurance after her husband lost his job, a job he would have lost sooner if Romney hadn't invested in the company trying to save it, how is the ad not false in saying that Romney contributed to her death?
 
2012-08-18 07:47:42 AM  

BuckTurgidson: Teabaggers, most importantly including large numbers of U.S. congresspersons, exploited every procedural bushwack ever conceived to push a default in order to extort compliance with their outrageous self-serving demands.


Default was never on the table.

A shutdown, yes

Default, No.
 
2012-08-18 12:00:34 PM  

o5iiawah: BuckTurgidson: Teabaggers, most importantly including large numbers of U.S. congresspersons, exploited every procedural bushwack ever conceived to push a default in order to extort compliance with their outrageous self-serving demands.

Default was never on the table.

A shutdown, yes

Default, No.


Link

Here is just Alan West threatening a default. There was loads of these teabaggers doing that.
 
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