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2012-08-15 02:23:12 PM
Odd, when my kids ipod touch got stolen apple told me they didn't even have the capability to track it. Nevermind the fact that itunes most certainly grabs the S/N of every apple device that connects. It's almost as if they don't care to do anything about apple products becaus they know you, the victim, will most likely buy another one to replace it.
 
2012-08-15 03:02:00 PM

sammyk: Odd, when my kids ipod touch got stolen apple told me they didn't even have the capability to track it. Nevermind the fact that itunes most certainly grabs the S/N of every apple device that connects. It's almost as if they don't care to do anything about apple products becaus they know you, the victim, will most likely buy another one to replace it.


No, Apple doesn't care if your stuff gets stolen. My wife had her iPhone stolen, and neither Apple nor Sprint gave a crap.
 
2012-08-15 03:44:19 PM
I'm shocked it didn't explode trying to load all the pending iTunes updates.
 
2012-08-15 03:48:18 PM

simplicimus: No, Apple doesn't care if your stuff gets stolen. My wife had her iPhone stolen, and neither Apple nor Sprint gave a crap.


That's odd. I know AT&T and Apple don't give a shiat. But Sprint is famous for banning phones from their network if they are stolen, or you don't pay your bill or whatever. They won't get the person arrested, but they'll help turn the phone into a brick.

Provided whoever stole it didn't reset the phone to defaults, you can use iCloud to locate the phone.
 
2012-08-15 03:53:32 PM
Note to self: Reset stack of stolen iPhones
 
2012-08-15 04:02:54 PM

ShawnDoc: simplicimus: No, Apple doesn't care if your stuff gets stolen. My wife had her iPhone stolen, and neither Apple nor Sprint gave a crap.

That's odd. I know AT&T and Apple don't give a shiat. But Sprint is famous for banning phones from their network if they are stolen, or you don't pay your bill or whatever. They won't get the person arrested, but they'll help turn the phone into a brick.

Provided whoever stole it didn't reset the phone to defaults, you can use iCloud to locate the phone.


Maybe. The phone doesn't show up on my bill on the Sprint website, but when I go to "manage my devices", there it is. But Sprint won't do anything about it because it's not on my account. And Apple couldn't care less.
 
2012-08-15 04:12:00 PM
It's nice to know a dead rich guy can get better service from the police than the average citizen. Carry on.
 
2012-08-15 04:23:56 PM

he person who allegedly burglarized the home


BURGLED! BURGLED!!


McFarlin has reportedly confessed to the crime and said he robbed the home because he was in "dire straits" and living out of his car


He then added that he just wanted "money for nothing".
 
2012-08-15 04:25:04 PM
But but but ... he was living out of his car. Where did he plug it in?
 
2012-08-15 04:25:43 PM
Why should the party who will most likely see a replacement purchase and increase their market share stats care if your phone is missing?
 
2012-08-15 04:25:44 PM

OregonVet: It's nice to know a dead rich guy can get better service from the police than the average citizen. Carry on.


This is true of any corporation. We work with service providers all the time when something of ours walks off. Thieves, in general, are pretty stupid. All it takes is a phone call or two from our end and then we wait for the idiot to plug something into the internet.
 
2012-08-15 04:27:14 PM

sammyk: Odd, when my kids ipod touch got stolen apple told me they didn't even have the capability to track it. Nevermind the fact that itunes most certainly grabs the S/N of every apple device that connects. It's almost as if they don't care to do anything about apple products becaus they know you, the victim, will most likely buy another one to replace it.


That's weird because they invented the mac address

/wait for it
 
2012-08-15 04:27:44 PM
Steve Jobs really didn't like people stealing from him.

But Bill Gates got rich anyway.
 
2012-08-15 04:27:53 PM

simplicimus: ShawnDoc: simplicimus: No, Apple doesn't care if your stuff gets stolen. My wife had her iPhone stolen, and neither Apple nor Sprint gave a crap.

That's odd. I know AT&T and Apple don't give a shiat. But Sprint is famous for banning phones from their network if they are stolen, or you don't pay your bill or whatever. They won't get the person arrested, but they'll help turn the phone into a brick.

Provided whoever stole it didn't reset the phone to defaults, you can use iCloud to locate the phone.

Maybe. The phone doesn't show up on my bill on the Sprint website, but when I go to "manage my devices", there it is. But Sprint won't do anything about it because it's not on my account. And Apple couldn't care less.


File a theft complaint with your local police department, use the theft report to file a claim on your homeowner's insurance
 
2012-08-15 04:28:37 PM

simplicimus: No, Apple doesn't care if your stuff gets stolen. My wife had her iPhone stolen, and neither Apple nor Sprint gave a crap


Why would they? If your car gets stolen - do you go biatch out the dealership where you bought it? This is why they offer things like "findmyiphone" and 3rd party software for android. If you really cared about your shiat then take the steps necessary to protect yourselves. Otherwise - stop fark'n whining.
 
2012-08-15 04:29:20 PM
Luckily, my name is "Unshavenhelga Jobs." They will care when my shiat goes missing.
 
2012-08-15 04:29:31 PM

weiserfireman: simplicimus: ShawnDoc: simplicimus: No, Apple doesn't care if your stuff gets stolen. My wife had her iPhone stolen, and neither Apple nor Sprint gave a crap.

That's odd. I know AT&T and Apple don't give a shiat. But Sprint is famous for banning phones from their network if they are stolen, or you don't pay your bill or whatever. They won't get the person arrested, but they'll help turn the phone into a brick.

Provided whoever stole it didn't reset the phone to defaults, you can use iCloud to locate the phone.

Maybe. The phone doesn't show up on my bill on the Sprint website, but when I go to "manage my devices", there it is. But Sprint won't do anything about it because it's not on my account. And Apple couldn't care less.

File a theft complaint with your local police department, use the theft report to file a claim on your homeowner's insurance


Or just buy a new one because the deductible will probably be as much as the phone.
 
2012-08-15 04:29:59 PM
They only cared because it was Steve Jobs iCrap.
 
2012-08-15 04:31:13 PM

sammyk: Nevermind the fact that itunes most certainly grabs the S/N of every apple device that connects.


That doesn't necessarily mean iTunes sends that data back to Apple. You should have installed the "Find My iPhone" app.
 
2012-08-15 04:34:02 PM

gingerjet: simplicimus: No, Apple doesn't care if your stuff gets stolen. My wife had her iPhone stolen, and neither Apple nor Sprint gave a crap

Why would they? If your car gets stolen - do you go biatch out the dealership where you bought it? This is why they offer things like "findmyiphone" and 3rd party software for android. If you really cared about your shiat then take the steps necessary to protect yourselves. Otherwise - stop fark'n whining.


Because of the apple ishop or whatever it would be similar to that dealership forcing all the cars to come specifically to it for any upgrades and so watching your stolen car occasionally pull into the lot and out again.
 
2012-08-15 04:35:38 PM
McFarlin apparently said he wants to send a letter of apology to Jobs' family.

And if it was my computer equipment?


/no apology letter for me
//fark your apology
 
2012-08-15 04:35:58 PM

simplicimus: sammyk: Odd, when my kids ipod touch got stolen apple told me they didn't even have the capability to track it. Nevermind the fact that itunes most certainly grabs the S/N of every apple device that connects. It's almost as if they don't care to do anything about apple products becaus they know you, the victim, will most likely buy another one to replace it.

No, Apple doesn't care if your stuff gets stolen. My wife had her iPhone stolen, and neither Apple nor Sprint gave a crap.


And you must not have given a crap either otherwise you would have take the 2 minutes to learn how you can track it yourself.
 
2012-08-15 04:36:53 PM

OregonVet: It's nice to know a dead rich guy can get better service from the police than the average citizen. Carry on.


Yep, I'm only here for the "I gave the police the name address, SSN, blood type and current location of the jerk who stole my stuff but they wouldn't do anything" stories.
 
2012-08-15 04:38:55 PM
This is really bad news for Apple. Implications are they can when they want to track down stolen property. Now people will be suing Apple for not doing the same for them.
 
2012-08-15 04:39:12 PM
Palo Alto police are best at standing around in the parking lot at the Stanford Ave Starbucks. Bringing 2, 3, 4 cars at a time.

Especially Officer TribalTattoo who dos the classic I'mnotflexing hands under biceps power arm fold while protecting the parking lot from marauding people trying to buy coffee.

Also good at:

Parking backwards next to a red curb under a no parking sign off University Ave

farm5.staticflickr.com

while havin' a wrap

farm5.staticflickr.com
 
2012-08-15 04:39:23 PM

Englebert Slaptyback: he person who allegedly burglarized the home


BURGLED! BURGLED!!


You're not from the US are you?
 
2012-08-15 04:40:40 PM

MrEricSir: sammyk: Nevermind the fact that itunes most certainly grabs the S/N of every apple device that connects.

That doesn't necessarily mean iTunes sends that data back to Apple. You should have installed the "Find My iPhone" app.


Ummm, er, the article is saying that as soon as the devices logged onto the internet and went for the updates they got an alert at apple HQ, tracked down the IP address CSI style and busted the guy.

My point is if your phone gets stolen they will claim they do not have that capability all day long.

You don't think they stick the S/N in a database when you register the thing?
 
2012-08-15 04:42:52 PM

gingerjet: simplicimus: No, Apple doesn't care if your stuff gets stolen. My wife had her iPhone stolen, and neither Apple nor Sprint gave a crap

Why would they? If your car gets stolen - do you go biatch out the dealership where you bought it? This is why they offer things like "findmyiphone" and 3rd party software for android. If you really cared about your shiat then take the steps necessary to protect yourselves. Otherwise - stop fark'n whining.


The problem is more the cops not giving a crap. You think police are going to make much of a move when you track your stolen iwhatever to a specific house? Most departments probably aren't going to do diddly squat, aaaaaand, If you approach the people that stole your stuff you will probably be the one getting in trouble with the law.
 
2012-08-15 04:43:06 PM
So Apple tells you where your phone is... you go location and get head blown off... family sues... profit
 
2012-08-15 04:44:23 PM

gingerjet: simplicimus: No, Apple doesn't care if your stuff gets stolen. My wife had her iPhone stolen, and neither Apple nor Sprint gave a crap

Why would they? If your car gets stolen - do you go biatch out the dealership where you bought it? This is why they offer things like "findmyiphone" and 3rd party software for android. If you really cared about your shiat then take the steps necessary to protect yourselves. Otherwise - stop fark'n whining.


this, no joke i hate when people come into threads and post BS like that. There are plenty of ways to track your devices and keep, the reason Apple showed up is because the guy use to work for them and made the company so they have a little bit more resources around to track items down. You can do the same with find my iphone or a slew of different apps on Android as you stated and people should take advantage of that. I am also amazed how many people have smartphones and have no kind of password lock on it, that's again another stupid move.
 
2012-08-15 04:47:22 PM

Englebert Slaptyback: he person who allegedly burglarized the home


BURGLED! BURGLED!!


McFarlin has reportedly confessed to the crime and said he robbed the home because he was in "dire straits" and living out of his car


He then added that he just wanted "money for nothing".


Did he at least pay for the chicks? or did he want them free too?
 
2012-08-15 04:48:07 PM

Englebert Slaptyback: he person who allegedly burglarized the home


BURGLED! BURGLED!!


media.giantbomb.com
 
2012-08-15 04:48:11 PM

TheGhostofFarkPast: gingerjet: simplicimus: No, Apple doesn't care if your stuff gets stolen. My wife had her iPhone stolen, and neither Apple nor Sprint gave a crap

Why would they? If your car gets stolen - do you go biatch out the dealership where you bought it? This is why they offer things like "findmyiphone" and 3rd party software for android. If you really cared about your shiat then take the steps necessary to protect yourselves. Otherwise - stop fark'n whining.

this, no joke i hate when people come into threads and post BS like that. There are plenty of ways to track your devices and keep, the reason Apple showed up is because the guy use to work for them and made the company so they have a little bit more resources around to track items down. You can do the same with find my iphone or a slew of different apps on Android as you stated and people should take advantage of that. I am also amazed how many people have smartphones and have no kind of password lock on it, that's again another stupid move.


Well, on my galaxy I set it to brick the phone if it gets stolen. Some satisfaction, but I'd rather not lose the phone.
 
2012-08-15 04:48:34 PM
Here's the problem. How many times would Apple have to deal with some douched out butt hurt ex boyfriend reporting his ex-girlfriend's phone as stolen just to fark with her? Or any number of other super cool combinations like that.

If anyone can hack an Apple account with the last four digits of a credit card reporting a lost phone and getting it bricked would be a pizzacake.
 
2012-08-15 04:49:13 PM

TheGhostofFarkPast: gingerjet: simplicimus: No, Apple doesn't care if your stuff gets stolen. My wife had her iPhone stolen, and neither Apple nor Sprint gave a crap

Why would they? If your car gets stolen - do you go biatch out the dealership where you bought it? This is why they offer things like "findmyiphone" and 3rd party software for android. If you really cared about your shiat then take the steps necessary to protect yourselves. Otherwise - stop fark'n whining.

this, no joke i hate when people come into threads and post BS like that. There are plenty of ways to track your devices and keep, the reason Apple showed up is because the guy use to work for them and made the company so they have a little bit more resources around to track items down. You can do the same with find my iphone or a slew of different apps on Android as you stated and people should take advantage of that. I am also amazed how many people have smartphones and have no kind of password lock on it, that's again another stupid move.


solution: don't make enemies
then you won't have to worry about stuff getting stolen.
 
2012-08-15 04:51:42 PM

simplicimus: TheGhostofFarkPast: gingerjet: simplicimus: No, Apple doesn't care if your stuff gets stolen. My wife had her iPhone stolen, and neither Apple nor Sprint gave a crap

Why would they? If your car gets stolen - do you go biatch out the dealership where you bought it? This is why they offer things like "findmyiphone" and 3rd party software for android. If you really cared about your shiat then take the steps necessary to protect yourselves. Otherwise - stop fark'n whining.

this, no joke i hate when people come into threads and post BS like that. There are plenty of ways to track your devices and keep, the reason Apple showed up is because the guy use to work for them and made the company so they have a little bit more resources around to track items down. You can do the same with find my iphone or a slew of different apps on Android as you stated and people should take advantage of that. I am also amazed how many people have smartphones and have no kind of password lock on it, that's again another stupid move.

Well, on my galaxy I set it to brick the phone if it gets stolen. Some satisfaction, but I'd rather not lose the phone.


How about filling a civil suit against the owner of the house or the internet account that the phone is plugged into to? Any lawyers care to comment on whether or not that is possible?
 
2012-08-15 04:53:18 PM

sammyk: Ummm, er, the article is saying that as soon as the devices logged onto the internet and went for the updates they got an alert at apple HQ, tracked down the IP address CSI style and busted the guy.


No, that's not what happened at all -- although the sloppy way the cnet article is written, I could see how one would get that impression.

What happened was that police were already investigating when someone tried to access Steve Job's iTunes account. Which is kind of a dead giveaway, if you'll pardon the pun.
 
2012-08-15 04:54:30 PM
apple doesn't care about black people.
 
2012-08-15 04:55:43 PM

kvinesknows: apple doesn't care about black people.


Or white people.
 
2012-08-15 04:56:13 PM
I've dealt with lost/stolen gps tracked phones 2 times. Once, the victim got her iPhone back because the guy whofound it got the find my phone text and they turned out to be from the same place as the "victim."

The other time, the victim led us to a general vicinity where the phone was and we knocked on doors which nobody opened. But we explained that even with the tracking we can't just go into someone's home and search it without a warrant. A Detective might be able to try for that warrant but not us on midnights who answer calls.
 
2012-08-15 04:59:00 PM

fonebone77: gingerjet: simplicimus: No, Apple doesn't care if your stuff gets stolen. My wife had her iPhone stolen, and neither Apple nor Sprint gave a crap

Why would they? If your car gets stolen - do you go biatch out the dealership where you bought it? This is why they offer things like "findmyiphone" and 3rd party software for android. If you really cared about your shiat then take the steps necessary to protect yourselves. Otherwise - stop fark'n whining.

The problem is more the cops not giving a crap. You think police are going to make much of a move when you track your stolen iwhatever to a specific house? Most departments probably aren't going to do diddly squat, aaaaaand, If you approach the people that stole your stuff you will probably be the one getting in trouble with the law.


Unless you're the son of the Berkeley Police Chief. The son lost his iPhone and the chief got 4 police officers on the case to find it.
 
2012-08-15 05:01:27 PM

RidersOfLohan: Palo Alto police are best at standing around in the parking lot at the Stanford Ave Starbucks. Bringing 2, 3, 4 cars at a time.

Especially Officer TribalTattoo who dos the classic I'mnotflexing hands under biceps power arm fold while protecting the parking lot from marauding people trying to buy coffee.

Also good at:

Parking backwards next to a red curb under a no parking sign off University Ave

[farm5.staticflickr.com image 640x425]

while havin' a wrap

[farm5.staticflickr.com image 640x378]


Go get coffee at Coupa. Screw Bucky's.
 
2012-08-15 05:03:04 PM
from a link in the link.

The crime is out of character for McFarlin, the "nice guy" that Shamele Shelton knew in high school. She was a cheerleader and he was a football standout.

unfortunate female name ftw
 
2012-08-15 05:04:54 PM
merely install Cartman Trapper Keeper on all your electronics and your worries are over.
 
2012-08-15 05:05:11 PM
I am a firm believer in the whole they don't care at all thing. Recently had a fairly new laptop stolen (less than 6 months old at the time) had the guy who stole its phone number (he was invited into my home by my girlfriends stepsister) We had his first name, serial number and model of laptop. The thief's home address was also provided to them, as well as the make model, and color of his car. I didn't get my laptop back and he wasn't prosecuted. The did call him on the phone and ask if he had it, and he said "no he gave it to his friend" who came with him, then he and the cops dropped the matter. The company making the laptop stated that they could track the laptop provided they had a police report and cooperation from the police.

Interestingly there have been a number of other break in's and violent crimes in our neighborhood, but mainly they just patrol looking for traffic misdemeanors.
 
2012-08-15 05:07:52 PM
Go get coffee at Coupa. Screw Bucky's.

you mean Coupa that shuts down at 4:59pm?

Not much use for anyone who isn't a 9-5er with in walking distance, or any of the Paly PD or furd students who swarm the Starbucks til 11pm

Not to mention the stanford sheriffs who come off of Serra St to play Ben Hur at 60mph+ down El Camino in those silly Chargers or whatever it is they drive
 
2012-08-15 05:09:19 PM

Dog Man: I've dealt with lost/stolen gps tracked phones 2 times. Once, the victim got her iPhone back because the guy whofound it got the find my phone text and they turned out to be from the same place as the "victim."

The other time, the victim led us to a general vicinity where the phone was and we knocked on doors which nobody opened. But we explained that even with the tracking we can't just go into someone's home and search it without a warrant. A Detective might be able to try for that warrant but not us on midnights who answer calls.


Call the phone. Hear it from outside home. Stolen property observable from public location. Probable cause?
 
2012-08-15 05:09:29 PM

Maxor: Interestingly there have been a number of other break in's and violent crimes in our neighborhood, but mainly they just patrol looking for traffic misdemeanors.


Tickets net them money. Putting criminals in jail costs them money. Which do you think they rather do?
 
2012-08-15 05:10:14 PM

TheGhostofFarkPast: gingerjet: simplicimus: No, Apple doesn't care if your stuff gets stolen. My wife had her iPhone stolen, and neither Apple nor Sprint gave a crap

Why would they? If your car gets stolen - do you go biatch out the dealership where you bought it? This is why they offer things like "findmyiphone" and 3rd party software for android. If you really cared about your shiat then take the steps necessary to protect yourselves. Otherwise - stop fark'n whining.

this, no joke i hate when people come into threads and post BS like that. There are plenty of ways to track your devices and keep, the reason Apple showed up is because the guy use to work for them and made the company so they have a little bit more resources around to track items down. You can do the same with find my iphone or a slew of different apps on Android as you stated and people should take advantage of that. I am also amazed how many people have smartphones and have no kind of password lock on it, that's again another stupid move.


Yeah, you're kinda missing the point. That guy didn't just steal my $50 phone and then quit crime; most likely burglary is his career. This is a farking gimme for the police--a criminal with stolen goods that leads them directly to his hideout, stash and/or accomplices. They can knock on the front door and when the crim answers, have Apple make the stolen phone scream, and then have all the evidence they need. They probably don't even need a warrant at that point.
 
2012-08-15 05:10:54 PM
As of last month, and I am fairly sure it is an FCC manadate, at ATT we have to enter lost/stolen IMEIs into a database which then blocks them from working on the network.

My experience as an escalation manager is that Apple users are too careless with their Iphones, and expect the phone company or apple to pick up the tab for their careless behavior.
 
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