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2012-08-15 12:53:38 PM
With the prospect of no chance for a job after graduation and being saddled with decades of student loans is this a shock to anyone?
 
2012-08-15 12:58:47 PM

EnviroDude: With the prospect of no chance for a job after graduation and being saddled with decades of student loans is this a shock to anyone?


R's have been saying for 4 years that kids won't turn out to vote. Now they're trumpeting the fact that 40% of them hate their guy less. Weird.
 
2012-08-15 02:21:55 PM
"This is the first time I am seeing Romney's numbers this high among 18-29 year olds anyone,"

Fixed the article
 
2012-08-15 02:22:20 PM

Tell Me How My Blog Tastes: EnviroDude: With the prospect of no chance for a job after graduation and being saddled with decades of student loans is this a shock to anyone?

R's have been saying for 4 years that kids won't turn out to vote. Now they're trumpeting the fact that 40% of them hate their guy less. Weird.


40%?

Well this is just bad news for Obama.

/24
//Voting for Obama
///Not voting for the current group of assclowns which consist of the modern Republican Party and probably won't in my lifetime if they keep acting like this
 
2012-08-15 02:24:22 PM
I guess they really do want a muffin made of broken glass.
 
2012-08-15 02:25:17 PM
Oh, wait, Obama still cleans up the youth vote.

Nevermind...
 
2012-08-15 02:25:46 PM
I forget which way Zogby's number tilt.
 
2012-08-15 02:26:36 PM
But but but Obama is so cool. How can this be?
 
2012-08-15 02:26:52 PM

EnviroDude: With the prospect of no chance for a job after graduation and being saddled with decades of student loans is this a shock to anyone?


Obamasmagictimemachine.jpg

Some of us younger people voted for President Obama and continue to believe he is the best available choice.

What do you think should be done about the student loan debt issue?
 
2012-08-15 02:27:01 PM
From Wikipedia:

"Nate Silver statistician of FiveThirtyEight.com called Zogby International's online polling division, Zogby Interactive, "The worst pollster in the world." ranking it last in his Pollster Rankings. He also ranked Zogby's Telephone polls 53rd of 64.[7] He notes the pollster relies on one day polling which causes large fluctuations in data. Silver uses their misleading questions, seemingly to create a bias, as evidence for their status."
 
2012-08-15 02:28:09 PM
You know, I'm tired of looking for menial work with no hope of putting that college degree to good use, struggling to pay off student loan debt, and putting my future dreams on hold because of the shiatty economy. It's time for a change!

I'm going to vote so that my boss can pay me $3/hour and no health coverage for dangerous work with no safety regulations while paying a higher tax rate in what amounts to little more than feudal peonage for some rich asshole who drives a Ferrari purchased with all the money that I made for him. Then I can die alone and penniless at age 43 when I can't afford medical care for a simple infection that ravages my body and cooks me alive.

Or better yet, why don't I just set my balls on fire. Changeariffic!
 
2012-08-15 02:28:12 PM
In his latest poll, Obama receives just 49 percent of the youth vote when pitted against Romney, who received 41 percent. In another question, the independent candidacy of Gary Johnson is included, and here Obama wins 50 percent, Romney 38 percent and Johnson 5 percent.

This is just sad. Are they really considering a loss by 8 points a victory for the Republican Party?

Talk about desperate...
 
2012-08-15 02:28:24 PM
FTFA: Pollster John Zogby of JZ Analytics

I'm assuming this poll took place in the cafeteria at the Ronald Reagan Private School for Republican Youth?
 
2012-08-15 02:29:00 PM
Given the choice between shiat sandwich and sodomized with a kitchen knife, I think the choice is pretty obvious.
 
2012-08-15 02:29:27 PM

Agneska: But but but Obama is so cool. How can this be?


And Romney has to offer...?
 
2012-08-15 02:29:28 PM
Yup, Romney and Ryan are hip and with it. They keep the funky fresh steeze that I needs to sees for the presidencies.
They speak my lingo, they know 'whats up' with my demographic. Im gonna vote the shiat out of them come november.
wait... romney is a mormon?
whatever, i loved cannibal the musical.
 
2012-08-15 02:30:18 PM

Blue_Blazer: What do you think should be done about the student loan debt issue?


Honestly? Amend the statute which excludes student loans from the types of debt that can be discharged... you don't have to allow discharge in all case, but you could at least put a ceiling on non-dischargeability or make it easier to establish hardship cases.
 
2012-08-15 02:30:57 PM
Lessee... the party that is obstructing and hindering the recovery in every way possible doesn't want to be blamed for hindering the recovery?

Weird man, just weird.
 
2012-08-15 02:31:11 PM
Change comes from within.
 
2012-08-15 02:31:16 PM
...so does this mean if i vote for Gary Johnson it'll be counted as a vote lost for Romney instead of Obama?

also

/Republicans think they will have the youth vote.

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2012-08-15 02:31:37 PM
Look, I'm part of the sub 30 crowd. As much as Obama's administration has been a disappointment, Romney's campaign so far leads me to believe that the gutting of government would lead us back into the early 1800s.

I don't want to live in the early 1800s.
 
2012-08-15 02:31:44 PM
Zogby speculates that Romney's selection of 42-year-old Rep. Paul Ryan helped turn more younger voters to him. "It could be his youthfulness," said Zogby of Ryan. Plus, he said, more younger voters are becoming libertarian, distrustful of current elected officials and worried that they are going to get stuck with the nation's looming fiscal bill.

Because more libertarian means more GOP voters...or something.

I mean who else can we trust more than a governor for President and a guy who worked in the public sector right out of college as vice president?

These assumptions they are making are HILARIOUS!
 
2012-08-15 02:31:50 PM

EnviroDude: With the prospect of no chance for a job after graduation and being saddled with decades of student loans is this a shock to anyone?


When are the jobs, Speaker Boehner

Oh and, these are the guys voting against the American Jobs Act.
 
2012-08-15 02:32:30 PM
But their desire for hope and change has turned to disillusionment and unemployment. Zogby calls them "CENGAs" for "college-educated, not going anywhere."

It is definitely hard out there for young people coming out of college these past 5 years or so, I can see why kids are not happy with the way things are going. Pretty sure Romney isn't the guy to fix it but I can sure see why they aren't happy.
 
2012-08-15 02:32:41 PM

imashark: Look, I'm part of the sub 30 crowd. As much as Obama's administration has been a disappointment, Romney's campaign so far leads me to believe that the gutting of government would lead us back into the early 1800s.

I don't want to live in the early 1800s.


I do. I'd farking invent tons of shiat and become a billionaire.
 
2012-08-15 02:33:48 PM

The All-Powerful Atheismo: imashark: Look, I'm part of the sub 30 crowd. As much as Obama's administration has been a disappointment, Romney's campaign so far leads me to believe that the gutting of government would lead us back into the early 1800s.

I don't want to live in the early 1800s.

I do. I'd farking invent tons of shiat and become a billionaire.


Well, duh. Except this would be the 1800s where everything now has a patent.
 
2012-08-15 02:34:39 PM

Blue_Blazer: EnviroDude: With the prospect of no chance for a job after graduation and being saddled with decades of student loans is this a shock to anyone?

Obamasmagictimemachine.jpg

Some of us younger people voted for President Obama and continue to believe he is the best available choice.

What do you think should be done about the student loan debt issue?


my guess is he'll say tax cuts
 
2012-08-15 02:35:30 PM

imashark: Look, I'm part of the sub 30 crowd. As much as Obama's administration has been a disappointment, Romney's campaign so far leads me to believe that the gutting of government would lead us back into the early 1800s.

I don't want to live in the early 1800s.


I hope under-30s like you and me can get some more of our cohort on board. I'm really not trying to concern troll here, but I really think our voting bloc could end up screwing it up for Obama. I hear the term "Bush's 3rd term" come up among my friends much more often than I would like.
 
2012-08-15 02:36:33 PM
Is it really that hard to believe? Obama hasn't lived up to the hype, because no one could have.
 
2012-08-15 02:36:43 PM

Mrtraveler01: In his latest poll, Obama receives just 49 percent of the youth vote when pitted against Romney, who received 41 percent. In another question, the independent candidacy of Gary Johnson is included, and here Obama wins 50 percent, Romney 38 percent and Johnson 5 percent.

This is just sad. Are they really considering a loss by 8 points a victory for the Republican Party?

Talk about desperate...


I am amused that Obama's numbers go up if Gary Johnson is involved. Implies two things; one, Johnson would be pulling voters from Mitt Romney, and two, Johnson actually motivates people to vote for Obama.
 
2012-08-15 02:37:34 PM

Mrtraveler01: This is just sad. Are they really considering a loss by 8 points a victory for the Republican Party?


I love it. Heavily biased poll, heavily biased article - and behind the smokescreen of bullshiat, he's still getting his ass kicked.

Makes me wonder just how wide the gap really is.
 
2012-08-15 02:38:23 PM

indylaw: Blue_Blazer: What do you think should be done about the student loan debt issue?

Honestly? Amend the statute which excludes student loans from the types of debt that can be discharged... you don't have to allow discharge in all case, but you could at least put a ceiling on non-dischargeability or make it easier to establish hardship cases.


That sounds far too reasonable to have any hope of it happening.

Where can I sign up for your newsletter?
 
2012-08-15 02:39:26 PM

The Name: imashark: Look, I'm part of the sub 30 crowd. As much as Obama's administration has been a disappointment, Romney's campaign so far leads me to believe that the gutting of government would lead us back into the early 1800s.

I don't want to live in the early 1800s.

I hope under-30s like you and me can get some more of our cohort on board. I'm really not trying to concern troll here, but I really think our voting bloc could end up screwing it up for Obama. I hear the term "Bush's 3rd term" come up among my friends much more often than I would like.


Maybe it's a difference between young men and young women, but most of the young women I know are fired up to vote for Obama and against Romney and the Republican war on women.

They are PISSED at Republicans.
 
2012-08-15 02:39:38 PM
It's a black fly in your Chardonnay
It's a death row pardon two minutes too late
It's like rain on your wedding day
It's a free ride when you've already paid
 
2012-08-15 02:42:17 PM

meat0918: but most of the young women I know are fired up to vote for Obama and against Romney and the Republican war on women.


Your mom's bridge club?

Wars involve shooting people and breaking things, not making someone pay for their own contraception if they want to fark.
 
2012-08-15 02:42:38 PM
So what? Cynicism comes eventually. Youth is wasted on the young.
 
2012-08-15 02:42:58 PM
i.imgur.com
 
2012-08-15 02:43:09 PM
They really don't have a higher-def picture of the chart? I could barely read it.
 
2012-08-15 02:44:15 PM

imashark: The All-Powerful Atheismo: imashark: Look, I'm part of the sub 30 crowd. As much as Obama's administration has been a disappointment, Romney's campaign so far leads me to believe that the gutting of government would lead us back into the early 1800s.

I don't want to live in the early 1800s.

I do. I'd farking invent tons of shiat and become a billionaire.

Well, duh. Except this would be the 1800s where everything now has a patent.


Well fine, then. I'd punch John Wilkes Booth's mother in the stomach while she was pregnant.
 
2012-08-15 02:44:42 PM
Sure Obama has not been the messiah that the teabaggers think some people think he is, but do you really want Mitt and Ryan?
 
2012-08-15 02:45:40 PM

meat0918: The Name: imashark: Look, I'm part of the sub 30 crowd. As much as Obama's administration has been a disappointment, Romney's campaign so far leads me to believe that the gutting of government would lead us back into the early 1800s.

I don't want to live in the early 1800s.

I hope under-30s like you and me can get some more of our cohort on board. I'm really not trying to concern troll here, but I really think our voting bloc could end up screwing it up for Obama. I hear the term "Bush's 3rd term" come up among my friends much more often than I would like.

Maybe it's a difference between young men and young women, but most of the young women I know are fired up to vote for Obama and against Romney and the Republican war on women.

They are PISSED at Republicans.


Not to mention the wars on gays and Muslims non-Christians. Then again, the primary reason I'm voting for Obama is his ideas make much more sense economically. If only Congress could actually work and pass something useful.
 
2012-08-15 02:46:23 PM
In his latest poll, Obama receives just 49 percent of the youth vote when pitted against Romney, who received 41 percent. In another question, the independent candidacy of Gary Johnson is included, and here Obama wins 50 percent, Romney 38 percent and Johnson 5 percent.

The Johnson factor is bad news ...for Romney.

/Meh, Obama will win the youth vote handily enough.
 
2012-08-15 02:47:23 PM

Death_Poot: meat0918: but most of the young women I know are fired up to vote for Obama and against Romney and the Republican war on women.

Your mom's bridge club?

Wars involve shooting people and breaking things, not making someone pay for their own contraception if they want to fark.


No, these college age women that watch what happened in Virginia forced and coerced transvaginal ultrasounds and Texas cutting funding for women's health clinics, watched the Planned Parenthood lies being spread, watched as anti-abortion bills that do not make exceptions for health of the mother, rape, or incest get passed and proposed in state after state.

Mom's bridge club is full of creationist bible thumpers that think having insurance companies offer birth control to all women on any plan is the greatest affront to religious liberty ever!
 
2012-08-15 02:48:30 PM

qorkfiend: Mrtraveler01: In his latest poll, Obama receives just 49 percent of the youth vote when pitted against Romney, who received 41 percent. In another question, the independent candidacy of Gary Johnson is included, and here Obama wins 50 percent, Romney 38 percent and Johnson 5 percent.

This is just sad. Are they really considering a loss by 8 points a victory for the Republican Party?

Talk about desperate...

I am amused that Obama's numbers go up if Gary Johnson is involved. Implies two things; one, Johnson would be pulling voters from Mitt Romney, and two, Johnson actually motivates people to vote for Obama.


I'm on the fence between Johnson and Obama. I feel Obama has had such opposition that some of the seeds he laid his first term might end up coming to fruition, his healthcare mandate and other things will start moving forward. But there is always the radical regressionist / obstructionist congress standing in the way of having any plans work.

Johnson is a new deal, but some of the things he has said could deregulate and pave the way for more vulture capitalists like Romney to prosper. Only by exposing them before they can exploit the american people would this be a good thing, but i fear we turn a blind eye too often to their evil. In the eyes of a Johnson supporter, Romney is the bad side of what we want to happen. He will take good ideas and twist them to his own personal gain.

Give the man a little more time, or roll the dice? Either way Romney is an absolute no go.
 
2012-08-15 02:49:01 PM

quatchi:
The Johnson factor


Johnson?
 
2012-08-15 02:49:24 PM
I'm 21. I will vote a straight Democratic ticket even though I'm in Arkansas which doesn't have a chance in hell of going blue. Could we fix the electoral college situation so my vote actually matters? It's hard to get motivated to go vote when these teabagging farks are everywhere I look.

These bastards got to live a glorious life and they get mad at us for trying to have any semblance of fun. Imagine someone born in 1946 as a baby boomer. You are 14 years old when 1960 starts. You get the summer of love and all that fun stuff. Then the joys of the 70s which as I understand it were like 60's part 2 but a little cornier, fun all the same. Next comes the 80's where these guys all sell out their souls and our countries just to add another quarter gram of cocaine to their pockets. Now the 90's happen and they all ride this sweet tech bubble. In 2000 things slowly start to wane until in 2008 they crash. I think they should have to bear with the consequences of their self indulgent lifestyles but we're the ones catching the problems via this terrible economy, unfair tax system, etc. Enjoy that 15% capital gains rate you old farks.

Maybe I'm all wrong and that was a mindless rant but that's the way it feels.
 
2012-08-15 02:49:49 PM

Blue_Blazer: What do you think should be done about the student loan debt issue?


Stop taunting him. You know he can't generate original thought.
 
2012-08-15 02:50:08 PM
I'm 28, and all in for Obama. the other side is a bunch of sociopaths who want to turn the middle and lower classes into serfs.

also, if your fresh out of college, and looking for a job in beautiful Austin Texas, We are hiring. SQL, C#, python, or good experience with banking or project management are major pluses.
 
2012-08-15 02:51:05 PM

meat0918: Death_Poot: meat0918: but most of the young women I know are fired up to vote for Obama and against Romney and the Republican war on women.

Your mom's bridge club?

Wars involve shooting people and breaking things, not making someone pay for their own contraception if they want to fark.

No, these college age women that watch what happened in Virginia forced and coerced transvaginal ultrasounds and Texas cutting funding for women's health clinics, watched the Planned Parenthood lies being spread, watched as anti-abortion bills that do not make exceptions for health of the mother, rape, or incest get passed and proposed in state after state.

Mom's bridge club is full of creationist bible thumpers that think having insurance companies offer birth control to all women on any plan is the greatest affront to religious liberty ever!


At least stop calling it a war, because it isnt one.
 
2012-08-15 02:52:03 PM
Oh and by the way Obama has disappointed me on many fronts namely civil liberties. The NSA is still intercepting all of our communications, Gitmo is still around (granted this is more of congress's fault), and his promise to curb the crack downs on medical marijuana dispensaries looks to be false. That said I recognize that he is only one man. One man who has had to deal with the do-nothingest, most stubborn group of assholes in congress since Truman
 
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