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(Boston Herald)   Baker: Does anybody else think it's crazy that the government buys whoopie pies for people on welfare? Everybody else: Mmmm, pie   (bostonherald.com) divider line 158
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2012-08-15 11:51:30 AM  
Contestants, where's the weirdest place the government has ever made whoopie?
 
2012-08-15 11:53:06 AM  
Oh. Oh. Oh. I love pie so much that at a young age I insisted don't buy me a birthday cake, buy me a birthday pie. That was as a kid when anything fruity, apple, blueberry, you know. Later in life after my parents retired to Florida I found out about Key Lime Pie, love ya, Florida.
 
2012-08-15 12:02:32 PM  
No, I don't. If you're on welfare that means you're poor as shiat, so buying a whoopie pie vs. buying some asparagus is not going to change anything.
 
2012-08-15 12:09:21 PM  

Lando Lincoln: If you're on welfare that means you're poor as shiat, so buying a whoopie pie vs. buying some asparagus is not going to change anything.


Well, when was the last time you heard someone say their pee smelled of Whoopie Pie?
 
2012-08-15 12:13:06 PM  
Pie? Aw, hell no! Let them eat cake!
 
vpb [TotalFark]
2012-08-15 12:18:12 PM  
If we could just punish the poors enough they would stop being poor. Maybe we should have food made specially for poors, with sand added to it so they won't like being poor.

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2012-08-15 12:34:46 PM  

Walker: Contestants, where's the weirdest place the government has ever made whoopie?



In the butt?
 
2012-08-15 12:41:02 PM  
I thought maybe this was another person trying to get welfare laws changed so that people on it couldn't buy desserts or something, but it's quite different. If this woman doesn't want to sell her pies to folks with EBT cards, that's her business.
 
2012-08-15 01:17:22 PM  
Kind of an interesting spin. Don't let them eat cake.
 
2012-08-15 01:35:47 PM  
So, one end of the spectrum is that Food Stamps are bad and we shouldn't have the program at all.

The other end would be that everyone deserves to eat like a millionaire, and if you can't, the government will make up the difference for you.

And now that we know the spectrum, everyone is going to be somewhere in the middle, and we just have to come to some sensible middle ground.

On this particular issue though... could the government "force" businesses to take it in some way, like making it equivalent to "legal tender". I mean, it already basically is in principal... I don't believe the government is not going to give the business the money owed for the food stamps redeemed. So, from that perspective, it would be like saying "I don't take $2 bills".... money is money.

But, as it stands now, it seems like it is her right to take or not take Food stamps.
 
2012-08-15 01:41:44 PM  
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Food stamps. Whoopie pies are food. Matthew 6:11 'Give us this day our daily bread..'

Shut up and take your money you waxed over, June Cleaver tea-baggin' biatch.
 
2012-08-15 01:43:42 PM  

Godscrack: Shut up and take your money you waxed over, June Cleaver tea-baggin' biatch.


why? She's a private business. If she doesn't want to take checks, credit cards, cash or EBT, that's her decision, not ours. There is no law that compels her to do so, nor should there be.
 
2012-08-15 01:51:47 PM  
What she going to do next, demand a birth certificate in order to buy her ding dongs?
 
2012-08-15 01:54:43 PM  
Poor people can buy flour, sugar, milk, eggs and whipped cream with food stams and make their own damn pie!

/I thought food stamps could not be used for 'to go' food? You can't buy McDonalds with your EBT card, for example.
 
2012-08-15 01:59:46 PM  
Isn't there an Amendment that says "No person shall be compelled to sell pie against her own wishes" ?
 
2012-08-15 02:03:11 PM  
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THIS CRAP IS NOT PIE.

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THIS IS A FARKING PIE.

Learn the farking difference, woman.
 
2012-08-15 02:03:23 PM  
It's not like the customers are getting a discount for using EBT payment. She still gets her money.

She just doesn't want 'colored' or poor people in her store.
 
2012-08-15 02:06:15 PM  

vernonFL: Poor people can buy flour, sugar, milk, eggs and whipped cream with food stams and make their own damn pie!

/I thought food stamps could not be used for 'to go' food? You can't buy McDonalds with your EBT card, for example.


Basically you can't use it to buy hot deli foods or fast food (McDonald's, Wendy's, BK, etc.). You can buy cold deli food, bakery goods from an in-store bakery, etc.
 
2012-08-15 02:08:47 PM  
So the government had nothing to say, and it was the farmer's market that was forcing all vendors to take tokens that could be purchased with EBT cards?

This really reads like there's some important details missing.
 
2012-08-15 02:27:10 PM  

Godscrack: What she going to do next, demand a birth certificate in order to buy her ding dongs?


Maybe she'd like an expanded government bureacracy to police what people can and can't buys with food assistance.

It's a lose-lose!
 
vpb [TotalFark]
2012-08-15 03:10:46 PM  

timujin: Godscrack: Shut up and take your money you waxed over, June Cleaver tea-baggin' biatch.

why? She's a private business. If she doesn't want to take checks, credit cards, cash or EBT, that's her decision, not ours. There is no law that compels her to do so, nor should there be.


Yep. It's not like there is a law against discriminating against those people.
 
2012-08-15 03:26:06 PM  
Because being poor should be COMPLETELY devoid of ANY enjoyment or nice things, EVER.

You work for minimum wage because you didn't get into college and it's all you can find? NO DESSERT FOR YOU. FOR LIFE.
 
2012-08-15 03:27:09 PM  
Unless you're proposing making Food Stamps more like WIC, there is not much you can do.

Well, you could not cover soda in the same way booze isn't covered. That would be a start.
 
2012-08-15 03:27:49 PM  
Look, it's not like when that person comes up to get one of those.... whatever the fark those things are, and is refused, the Feds/States don't suddenly get the money back.

That money is sent out, apportioned, and shall be distributed as has been legislated and agreed upon. Being a petulant little biatch that someone who makes a pittance gets to get a.... whatever the fark those things are, isn't doing much, given that those don't look like they're that complicated. Mix filling, bake the top/bottoms, smoosh together.
 
2012-08-15 03:30:02 PM  
I disagree with this lady's views, but it's her right to not accept EBT.
It sounds to me, however, that she's actively trying to get the program changed, which is another thing entirely.
 
2012-08-15 03:30:03 PM  
I thought these were the pies of welfare recipients:

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2012-08-15 03:30:49 PM  

Walker: Contestants, where's the weirdest place the government has ever made whoopie?


Is it bad that her voice automatically came up when i read this?
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2012-08-15 03:31:03 PM  
If they're so awful why is she making and selling and hopefully profiting from them?

That's like growing pot and then berating people for consuming it.
 
2012-08-15 03:34:41 PM  

vernonFL: make their own damn pie!


Cinaed: those don't look like they're that complicated.


Yeah! Never mind those freeloading losers who may have physical problems, like arthritis or poor eyesight that keep them from preparing their own foods right?
 
2012-08-15 03:35:45 PM  
To accept SNAP food stamps in your store, you must get a SNAP permit. To get a permit, you must file an application with the USDA Food and Nutrition Service (FNS). The FNS is the government agency in charge of SNAP food stamps. The SNAP permit is free.

You must have a permit for each store you own, and the permit must be in your name. You cannot take over someone else's SNAP permit.

You must sell certain types of food in your store to get a permit:
• You can get a permit if you sell a variety of staple foods in each of four food categories: (1) dairy products (2) breads, grains, and cereals (3) fruits and vegetables and (4) meat, fish, and poultry. Foods can be fresh, frozen, or canned. However, you must stock perishable foods in at least two of the food categories.
• or, you can get a permit if more than 50% of your gross retail sales comes from the sale of one or more staple foods.

Note: Staple foods do not include coffee, tea, candy, soft drinks, snack foods, or certain other ready-to-eat items.


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I don't think she could accept food stamps even if she wanted to.
 
2012-08-15 03:36:04 PM  
I'm OK with this.gif

It's her right not to accept food stamps. I also support more restrictions on what you can/cannot get with food stamps.

/liberal
 
2012-08-15 03:38:34 PM  

Somacandra: [img833.imageshack.us image 311x274]

THIS CRAP IS NOT PIE.

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THIS IS A FARKING PIE.

Learn the farking difference, woman.


Direct your eyes to the right side of the picture. It looks like she makes "real pie" too, but it was cropped out of the pic, presumably to lift the dog whistle up a few Hz.
 
2012-08-15 03:39:38 PM  

meat0918: Unless you're proposing making Food Stamps more like WIC, there is not much you can do.

Well, you could not cover soda in the same way booze isn't covered. That would be a start.


WIC in my area hands out farmer market vouchers every year.
 
2012-08-15 03:40:01 PM  

vernonFL: Poor people can buy flour, sugar, milk, eggs and whipped cream with food stams and make their own damn pie!

/I thought food stamps could not be used for 'to go' food? You can't buy McDonalds with your EBT card, for example.


Although McD's is lobbying to change that. The rules are so relaxed now though that many c-stores now qualify to accept EBT. I've seen the card used to buy sodas; what happened to it being for staple foods? Other than the issue that milk/egg/steak/cheese prices were set by the maximum food stamps would pay....at the c-stores it's the honor system. They have a separate terminal that doesn't communicate with the register. So unless an undercover agent is there looking, people using the card can buy anything they want. Assuming the owner/clerk doesn't care.
 
2012-08-15 03:40:56 PM  
I bet some of them go home and put those pies in ther refrigerators too

Poor indeed
 
2012-08-15 03:42:09 PM  

TrollingForColumbine: meat0918: Unless you're proposing making Food Stamps more like WIC, there is not much you can do.

Well, you could not cover soda in the same way booze isn't covered. That would be a start.

WIC in my area hands out farmer market vouchers every year.


That's awesome.
 
2012-08-15 03:42:36 PM  

highbrow45: To accept SNAP food stamps in your store, you must get a SNAP permit. To get a permit, you must file an application with the USDA Food and Nutrition Service (FNS). The FNS is the government agency in charge of SNAP food stamps. The SNAP permit is free.

You must have a permit for each store you own, and the permit must be in your name. You cannot take over someone else's SNAP permit.

You must sell certain types of food in your store to get a permit:
• You can get a permit if you sell a variety of staple foods in each of four food categories: (1) dairy products (2) breads, grains, and cereals (3) fruits and vegetables and (4) meat, fish, and poultry. Foods can be fresh, frozen, or canned. However, you must stock perishable foods in at least two of the food categories.
• or, you can get a permit if more than 50% of your gross retail sales comes from the sale of one or more staple foods.

Note: Staple foods do not include coffee, tea, candy, soft drinks, snack foods, or certain other ready-to-eat items.

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I don't think she could accept food stamps even if she wanted to.


I have seen stores that have NO possible way to meet these requirements, period. The majority of c-store profits and sales are going to come from cigarettes and alcohol. Add in candy bars, potato chips, etc.. I am guessing that no one actually is checking these applications and auditing them. What's the punishment if you are caught? "Oh sorry, you can't accept the card here anymore"???
 
2012-08-15 03:46:41 PM  
Those people get a fixed amount to spend. What is it to you if they spend that money on a cake or a couple of tomatoes?

I'm tired of acting like these people are living the life of luxury at our expense. Some of them have serious disabilities or have young children at home that can't help that mom is poor and dad is dead. They're given just enough assistance so that they can afford a modest diet. They're not living on a constant diet of steak tartare and lobster. What's the point of denying them something pleasurable but not extravagant? Should we switch to a system where they are only given dog chow?

I'm tired of treating the (minority) poor like they're subhumans and presumed criminals. Yes, I understand that some people are just lazy and bilk the system. You're going to have a degree of that in any system. But there are plenty of people who work and still need help feeding their families. Why do the same coonts who say that we're a Christian country insist on treating the working poor like they're garbage?
 
2012-08-15 03:48:21 PM  
Why can't we just let the free market decide what they buy with their food stamps?
 
2012-08-15 03:49:49 PM  
The farmer's market mission statement:
To provide fresh, local produce directly from farmers to residents;
To support our local farming industry's ability to remain healthy and sustainable;
To educate our community about healthy eating, maintaining a healthy environment and sustainable living;
To provide a weekly social experience to enhance our Braintree community.

So what the fark is she doing at the farmer's market in the first place? I don't think New England is a big sugar or wheat producing state, Whoopie pies aren't healthy, and I doubt any of her ingredients are organic.

Another marm shaming the poor. Hope they remember her when they get off of assistance.

/by the way, what percentage of her ingredients are from farms supported by crop subsidies?
 
2012-08-15 03:53:35 PM  
Her food is only for the boot strappy, which is o.k. by me, it doesn't look that good, anyway (I would rather eat boot straps).
 
2012-08-15 03:54:13 PM  

Job Creator: The farmer's market mission statement:
To provide fresh, local produce directly from farmers to residents;
To support our local farming industry's ability to remain healthy and sustainable;
To educate our community about healthy eating, maintaining a healthy environment and sustainable living;
To provide a weekly social experience to enhance our Braintree community.

So what the fark is she doing at the farmer's market in the first place? I don't think New England is a big sugar or wheat producing state, Whoopie pies aren't healthy, and I doubt any of her ingredients are organic.

Another marm shaming the poor. Hope they remember her when they get off of assistance.

/by the way, what percentage of her ingredients are from farms supported by crop subsidies?


Most farmers markets are nothing more than the same groceries you buy in a supermarket just sold outside under a tent. Usually with a price premium applied.
 
2012-08-15 03:54:17 PM  

vpb: timujin: Godscrack: Shut up and take your money you waxed over, June Cleaver tea-baggin' biatch.

why? She's a private business. If she doesn't want to take checks, credit cards, cash or EBT, that's her decision, not ours. There is no law that compels her to do so, nor should there be.

Yep. It's not like there is a law against discriminating against those people.


"Those people"? People who use welfare? No, there's not a law against discriminating against "those people".
 
2012-08-15 03:55:27 PM  

The Guitar Solo from Ride the Lightning: Direct your eyes to the right side of the picture. It looks like she makes "real pie" too, but it was cropped out of the pic, presumably to lift the dog whistle up a few Hz


Metaphor needs work. Upping the Hz of an ultrasonic whistle would make it harder to hear.

Anyway, Wikipedia describes other terms for Whoopie Pie, among those is "BFO". Big Fat Oreo.

The confection in the uncropped area seems a closer match to that than the cropped pie.

/cue Bill Cosby's Cake is a Healthy Breakfast (wheat, eggs, milk...) sketch
 
2012-08-15 03:56:49 PM  
If you find yourself on life's bottom rung, I insist you eat gruel and dress as a Victorian street orphan.

What's the good in me being better than you if we eat the same whoopie pies?
 
2012-08-15 03:57:33 PM  
You know what the Bible says about people on food stamps eating pie?
 
2012-08-15 03:57:57 PM  

Lost Thought 00: Job Creator: The farmer's market mission statement:
To provide fresh, local produce directly from farmers to residents;
To support our local farming industry's ability to remain healthy and sustainable;
To educate our community about healthy eating, maintaining a healthy environment and sustainable living;
To provide a weekly social experience to enhance our Braintree community.

So what the fark is she doing at the farmer's market in the first place? I don't think New England is a big sugar or wheat producing state, Whoopie pies aren't healthy, and I doubt any of her ingredients are organic.

Another marm shaming the poor. Hope they remember her when they get off of assistance.

/by the way, what percentage of her ingredients are from farms supported by crop subsidies?

Most farmers markets are nothing more than the same groceries you buy in a supermarket just sold outside under a tent. Usually with a price premium applied.


Many are. The state of New York does a good job sponsoring farmer's markets in/near housing projects in our fair city. These are actual upstate farmers bringing actual upstate produce to areas deemed "underserved." If that is the case and this woman receives a subsidy for going to this market she can fark herself with the beaters from her mixer.
 
2012-08-15 03:58:41 PM  
Wow, that lady is kind of a biatch for thinking poor people don't deserve pie every now and then.
 
2012-08-15 04:00:38 PM  

Walker: Contestants, where's the weirdest place the government has ever made whoopie?


September.
 
2012-08-15 04:01:31 PM  

indylaw: Those people get a fixed amount to spend. What is it to you if they spend that money on a cake or a couple of tomatoes?

I'm tired of acting like these people are living the life of luxury at our expense. Some of them have serious disabilities or have young children at home that can't help that mom is poor and dad is dead. They're given just enough assistance so that they can afford a modest diet. They're not living on a constant diet of steak tartare and lobster. What's the point of denying them something pleasurable but not extravagant? Should we switch to a system where they are only given dog chow?

I'm tired of treating the (minority) poor like they're subhumans and presumed criminals. Yes, I understand that some people are just lazy and bilk the system. You're going to have a degree of that in any system. But there are plenty of people who work and still need help feeding their families. Why do the same coonts who say that we're a Christian country insist on treating the working poor like they're garbage?


Came in to articulate something like this but you did it better so... a big hearty 'this'.
 
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