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23986 clicks; posted to Main » on 15 Aug 2012 at 8:34 AM (2 years ago)   |  Favorite    |   share:  Share on Twitter share via Email Share on Facebook   more»



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2012-08-15 08:36:35 AM  
It's already there in a subtle way. Jane Doe like Walmart. Like this page?
 
2012-08-15 08:36:52 AM  
no additional reasons are necessary, thanks.
 
2012-08-15 08:37:36 AM  
Am I the only person on the internet who isn't really bothered by ads?
 
2012-08-15 08:37:50 AM  
I wonder what the critical mass of bullshiat will be for Facebook users. And where they'll go during their exodus.

/I think we can rule out Google+
 
2012-08-15 08:38:21 AM  
Approves

www.wgngold.com
 
2012-08-15 08:38:32 AM  
Facebook is now inserting ads into your news feed, whether or not you're a fan of the product.

What stuns me is that people who are "not fans of Facebook" are inexplicably still on Facebook.

O_o
 
2012-08-15 08:38:50 AM  

Tat'dGreaser: Am I the only person on the internet who isn't really bothered by ads?


Come on, of course you're not. A person.
 
2012-08-15 08:39:49 AM  

kudayta: I wonder what the critical mass of bullshiat will be for Facebook users. And where they'll go during their exodus.


No one ever lost money by underestimating the intelligence of the general public.
 
2012-08-15 08:40:02 AM  
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/price-is-right-sadtrombone.wav
 
2012-08-15 08:40:45 AM  

kudayta: I wonder what the critical mass of bullshiat will be for Facebook users. And where they'll go during their exodus.

/I think we can rule out Google+


One thing it has going for it is that there's an awful lot of farking nerds on Google+.

Wil.
 
2012-08-15 08:41:15 AM  
I dunno subby. I have trouble hating any website. I know I am a farker and need to become irate when someone uses Apple, uses Facebook, or types with bad grammer. But ads on Facebook aren't a reason to get angry for me.
 
2012-08-15 08:41:26 AM  
I'm sorry, I can't hear this article over the sound of how awesome Adblock is.


Tat'dGreaser: Am I the only person on the internet who isn't really bothered by ads?


You should be. Ad networks are great vectors for malware. It's what led to me becoming the ad blocking nazi that I am today.
 
2012-08-15 08:42:41 AM  
anyone want to make a wager and set their calendars to pop up a notice in two years? Ive been on Fark for over ten years so Im sure Ill be here in two. Will facebook be the main social media in two years?
 
2012-08-15 08:43:49 AM  
Argh, this free service I'm under no obligation to use is doing something that annoys me. Like if you agree.
 
2012-08-15 08:44:21 AM  

Nidiot: kudayta: I wonder what the critical mass of bullshiat will be for Facebook users. And where they'll go during their exodus.


No one ever lost money by underestimating the intelligence of the general public.


That's certainly true, but we have seen a few other sites like Facebook die off.
 
2012-08-15 08:44:22 AM  
again, if you get something for free, you aren't the consumer, you are the product.
 
2012-08-15 08:45:30 AM  

stuhayes2010: I dunno subby. I have trouble hating any website. I know I am a farker and need to become irate when someone uses Apple, uses Facebook, or types with bad grammer. But ads on Facebook aren't a reason to get angry for me.


not bad. you might get a couple.
 
2012-08-15 08:46:02 AM  

TsukasaK: I'm sorry, I can't hear this article over the sound of how awesome Adblock is.


Tat'dGreaser: Am I the only person on the internet who isn't really bothered by ads?

You should be. Ad networks are great vectors for malware. It's what led to me becoming the ad blocking nazi that I am today.


This. What are these "ads" you speak of? Adblock + NoScript + occasionally CYB makes for a much more pleasant experience.
 
2012-08-15 08:46:13 AM  

wrs1864: again, if you get something for free, you aren't the consumer, you are the product.


This explains my sex life perfectly.
 
2012-08-15 08:49:57 AM  

SkunkWerks: Facebook is now inserting ads into your news feed, whether or not you're a fan of the product.

What stuns me is that people who are "not fans of Facebook" are inexplicably still on Facebook.

O_o


That's the point, isn't it? This is why Facebook isn't google+ or myspace. For whatever reason, no critical mass of people has left the site for greener pastures and the few who leave when they do feel they can't stand it anymore tend to come back in some form or another because they couldn't convince their lazy friends to leave.
 
2012-08-15 08:50:18 AM  

sillydragon: TsukasaK: I'm sorry, I can't hear this article over the sound of how awesome Adblock is.


Tat'dGreaser: Am I the only person on the internet who isn't really bothered by ads?

You should be. Ad networks are great vectors for malware. It's what led to me becoming the ad blocking nazi that I am today.

This. What are these "ads" you speak of? Adblock + NoScript + occasionally CYB makes for a much more pleasant experience.


And this.
 
2012-08-15 08:51:27 AM  
another reason besides "it sucks arse big time" ?


didnt know i needed another reason.
 
2012-08-15 08:51:50 AM  

Tat'dGreaser: Am I the only person on the internet who isn't really bothered by ads?


Interesting hypothesis.

I'm bothered by ads, but not so much because they're advertising things to me (and particularly not due to their presence on Facebook- a product I don't patronize at any rate). Advertising things to me is, at best a null-prospect for advertisers anyway.

What bothers me about ads on the internet is how they're generally delivered.

1) Facebook solicits one or more adservices to stream ads to you. These adservices run their own servers and equipment, and while I'd expect a large corporation like Facebook to conduct all affairs with their equipment in a prudent and safe way that doesn't place their end-users and their machines at risk in any way, there's no reason to expect the same prudence from the Adservices they solicit.

2) Adservices in turn solicit advertisers, which may or may not be above-board depending on how rigorous the process for vetting these advertisers is by the Adservice.


Now, since most modern ads do indeed employ scripting to implement tracking features among other things, they are an excellent vector for virii and malware. And given that you've passively (and likely without even knowing about it) entrusted your equipment's security and well being to several unknown third and even fourth parties, what are the chances you can even hold the "front line" parties responsible for any ill that happens? Bear in mind that I routinely run into people who can't figure out for the life of them how it is that they've got a half-dozen toolbars humping the top of Internet Explorer, let alone ascertain any connection between an infection and thier browsing habits.

I once went for a year with no anti-virus on my computer, and nothing but a script-blocker and an ad-blocker on my browser. Never got an infection. Not once.

I'm not bothered by ads. Advertise to me all you want. I'm bothered by how free and loose the infrastructure of ad-delivery (and by proxy, all those involved in it) is played, and mostly with the end-user's privacy and equipment as the primary beneficiary of the risks.

I block ads for the same reason you wear a jimmy hat while sleeping with a career prostitute.
 
2012-08-15 08:52:28 AM  

Tat'dGreaser: Am I the only person on the internet who isn't really bothered by ads?


Nah, I'm sure there's plenty of us who have adblock plus installed.
 
2012-08-15 08:52:52 AM  
What's "Facebook?" Is this something I'm supposed to have heard of?
 
2012-08-15 08:54:00 AM  

BumpInTheNight: Nah, I'm sure there's plenty of us who have adblock plus installed.


No, I mean without all of that.

The point about malware though I agree with and didn't think about it.

Taking away the malware, I guess I'm just not bothered by someone advertising something to me
 
2012-08-15 08:55:15 AM  

SkunkWerks: Facebook is now inserting ads into your news feed, whether or not you're a fan of the product.

What stuns me is that people who are "not fans of Facebook" are inexplicably still on Facebook.

O_o


For the same reason people who "aren't fans of their country" still inexplicably live there?
 
2012-08-15 08:55:22 AM  

BeesNuts: [img339.imageshack.us image 640x240]

/price-is-right-sadtrombone.wav


I haven't seen that show in years, but I heard that sound like Professor Farnsworth had made a machine to inject it into my brain.

/The Price-is-rightinator!
 
2012-08-15 08:55:40 AM  

sillydragon: TsukasaK: I'm sorry, I can't hear this article over the sound of how awesome Adblock is.


Tat'dGreaser: Am I the only person on the internet who isn't really bothered by ads?

You should be. Ad networks are great vectors for malware. It's what led to me becoming the ad blocking nazi that I am today.

This. What are these "ads" you speak of? Adblock + NoScript + occasionally CYB makes for a much more pleasant experience.


I think these show up as posts though, I don't know if adblock even sees them as ads.

But this was all inevitable. The only way they can make money is by turning it in to a massive advertising platform. I'll probably always maintain an account, because I don't really see it as anything but a glorified rolodex, but I shant be providing them with any marketing data about myself. Already dumped the mobile app because it insists on publishing my location.
 
2012-08-15 08:55:49 AM  
Meh. Been getting ads in my iPod version for some time now, and more than the "so-and-so likes _____ (like this page)". Between the two versions of ads they usually appear in the first four posts.

/damn Zuckerturd
 
2012-08-15 08:56:08 AM  

Itstoearly: For the same reason people who "aren't fans of their country" still inexplicably live there?


Facebook is a country now?

Interesting.
 
2012-08-15 08:56:57 AM  

Tat'dGreaser: BumpInTheNight: Nah, I'm sure there's plenty of us who have adblock plus installed.

No, I mean without all of that.

The point about malware though I agree with and didn't think about it.

Taking away the malware, I guess I'm just not bothered by someone advertising something to me


I imagine if my life hadn't gone as horribly wrong as it has, I would probably agree with you. As it is though, the smallest damned inconveniences tend to set me off.
 
2012-08-15 08:57:55 AM  
I would still take ads over my family posting religious quotes and political rants.
 
2012-08-15 08:59:00 AM  

HotWingConspiracy: sillydragon: TsukasaK: I'm sorry, I can't hear this article over the sound of how awesome Adblock is.


Tat'dGreaser: Am I the only person on the internet who isn't really bothered by ads?

You should be. Ad networks are great vectors for malware. It's what led to me becoming the ad blocking nazi that I am today.

This. What are these "ads" you speak of? Adblock + NoScript + occasionally CYB makes for a much more pleasant experience.

I think these show up as posts though, I don't know if adblock even sees them as ads.

But this was all inevitable. The only way they can make money is by turning it in to a massive advertising platform. I'll probably always maintain an account, because I don't really see it as anything but a glorified rolodex, but I shant be providing them with any marketing data about myself. Already dumped the mobile app because it insists on publishing my location.


Depending on what you were using for mobile, you can turn off location. My iPod won't disclose my whereabouts unless I let it.
 
2012-08-15 08:59:16 AM  
Not using farkbook works for me and solves all these annoying problems.
 
2012-08-15 08:59:53 AM  
I'd love to find out why I should hate Facebook but that would require clicking on a Gawker link and I already know I hate them.
 
2012-08-15 09:02:34 AM  
How's the saying go? If you're not paying for a service, you're not the customer, you're the product?
 
2012-08-15 09:04:02 AM  

farkingbubbler: HotWingConspiracy: sillydragon: TsukasaK: I'm sorry, I can't hear this article over the sound of how awesome Adblock is.


Tat'dGreaser: Am I the only person on the internet who isn't really bothered by ads?

You should be. Ad networks are great vectors for malware. It's what led to me becoming the ad blocking nazi that I am today.

This. What are these "ads" you speak of? Adblock + NoScript + occasionally CYB makes for a much more pleasant experience.

I think these show up as posts though, I don't know if adblock even sees them as ads.

But this was all inevitable. The only way they can make money is by turning it in to a massive advertising platform. I'll probably always maintain an account, because I don't really see it as anything but a glorified rolodex, but I shant be providing them with any marketing data about myself. Already dumped the mobile app because it insists on publishing my location.

Depending on what you were using for mobile, you can turn off location. My iPod won't disclose my whereabouts unless I let it.


I always have it off, but when I would try to use the messaging through the FB app, it would tell me it turned it on then post my location. Uh, thanks, FB? I need to lie about my whereabouts from time to time, this is not an attractive feature.

Maybe there is a setting to prevent it, but I didn't find it and decided I didn't truly need the app in the first place.
 
2012-08-15 09:04:11 AM  
kudayta: " where they'll go during their exodus."

It doesn't matter.
The only reason people are on Facebook is to stalk their exes and rivals.
So the only reason people will *leave* Facebook is because they magically mature (bwuhaha), or because everyone's leaving to do the same shiat somewhere else.
But you can't stalk exes and rivals without everyone implicitly agreeing on an "effectively no privacy" service and most people will not sign up for anything unless it's free, which means all the bullshiat of Facebook is *inevitable* wherever they land. All the privacy gaffes. All the ads.

So where they land will look and act almost exactly like Facebook.

Hell, that's why people didn't go to Google+: "Circles", modest difference that it is, means you can't stalk exes and rivals, so no-one (who uses Facebook) is interested.
 
2012-08-15 09:04:50 AM  

Tat'dGreaser: Am I the only person on the internet who isn't really bothered by ads?


Meh. Not really. It all comes with the territory. I mean people use facebook for free, it's not exactly as if they're paying.

So what if they need to place a few ads here and there.
 
2012-08-15 09:07:35 AM  

rudemix: It's already there in a subtle way. Jane Doe like Walmart. Like this page?


Jane Doe likes Walmart, and here's its latest ad -- Even if she's been dead for a year or two.

/learn about the "memorialize" request function if you've lost a friend or family member, or the friend comes back to life selling HuffPo, Gizmodo, Romney, or whatever, with the "Sponsored Links."
 
2012-08-15 09:07:53 AM  

kudayta: Nidiot: kudayta: I wonder what the critical mass of bullshiat will be for Facebook users. And where they'll go during their exodus.


No one ever lost money by underestimating the intelligence of the general public.

That's certainly true, but we have seen a few other sites like Facebook die off.


As has been mentioned, Facebook has already lured the numbers needed to keep a site like that going. I'm betting they will take more than a metric assload of bullshiat, on top of the current bullshiat, and still do little more than utter a barely audible murmur of what might be construed as mild discontent. Nothing less than forcibly giving people anal tattoos seems likely to shift them.
 
2012-08-15 09:08:18 AM  

HotWingConspiracy: I think these show up as posts though, I don't know if adblock even sees them as ads.


There's another addon for that.. Element hiding helper

I'd bet my left nut on there being a few things common to these ads when they're rolled out.. and there will be filters out within a week or less.
 
2012-08-15 09:08:27 AM  
I already get sent ads, sans like by a friend, on my mobile app
 
2012-08-15 09:14:25 AM  

HotIgneous Intruder: Not using farkbook works for me and solves all these annoying problems.


Hey!
We actually agree on something!
 
2012-08-15 09:17:01 AM  
I was able to mentally block out the ads on the side of the page, but the news feed ones are extremely annoying. I love how the ads constantly try to sell me things I just purchased online, because that's the only data they have to go off of for me. Same goes for Fark ads.
 
2012-08-15 09:17:04 AM  

TXEric: HotIgneous Intruder: Not using farkbook works for me and solves all these annoying problems.

Hey!
We actually agree on something!


If only I could convince the other several thousand members of the group I'm in not to use it, and still keep tabs on our events. It's a foul thing.
 
2012-08-15 09:18:12 AM  

SkunkWerks: Facebook is now inserting ads into your news feed, whether or not you're a fan of the product.

What stuns me is that people who are "not fans of Facebook" are inexplicably still on Facebook.

O_o




It seems like about 80% of all posts on facebook are females talking about how exiting their trip to the store to pick up milk and eggs was, or how pretty their new nails look, or how fabulous their new baby looks in its new slippers.

So its basically just a bunch of chicks with nothing better to do with their time than attention whoring and performing mental masturbation.
 
2012-08-15 09:19:54 AM  

TsukasaK: HotWingConspiracy: I think these show up as posts though, I don't know if adblock even sees them as ads.

There's another addon for that.. Element hiding helper

I'd bet my left nut on there being a few things common to these ads when they're rolled out.. and there will be filters out within a week or less.


HAH. Thanks for that one.

Some friends and I were just talking about that last night, with me saying, "I wonder how AdBlock is going to handle these?" Now I know.
 
2012-08-15 09:20:03 AM  
Once again I have to ask ...Why isn't there a "stupid " button on posts in articles on fark...some of these posts certainly deserve it.
 
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