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(Stars and Stripes)   What's the first reaction of the National Reconnaissance Office deputy director, an Air Force major general, upon learning she had four whistleblowers reporting illegal activity? "I would like to find them and fire them"   (stripes.com) divider line 132
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2012-08-15 01:05:36 PM  

Nem Wan: Obama is prosecuting Bush whistleblowers. Most egregiously, he's prosecuting those who leaked about illegal Bush torture and surveillance programs, programs he criticized as a candidate, while the people who conducted those programs are not prosecuted and their conduct is retroactively legalized.


Hope and Change!
 
2012-08-15 01:07:43 PM  
So as to prevent any conflation here, Bradley Manning is the poster boy for the precise reason homosexuality and sexual promiscuity was, for decades, (and probably still is -- see the submariner who just got popped for an affair & etc.) an automatic disqualifying factor in obtaining security clearances.
 
2012-08-15 01:10:34 PM  

dittybopper: Cubicle Jockey: dittybopper: Don't lump Bradley Manning in with legitimate whistleblowers

True. They weren't forced to go through isolation torture prior to trial.

Link

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See that stain on the carpet? That's the purple piss my heart bleeds for him.


Manning will probably be tried for espionage, which is okey-dokey.
 
2012-08-15 01:11:34 PM  

dittybopper: Great Odins Raven: How does a Jap general get so fat?

1. She's Air Force. That says a lot right there.

2. She's a general. Nobody puts generals on mandatory weight control programs, or forces them to do PT.

3. She's a woman. Different body fat standard than men.

4. She's older. Body mass restrictions relax with age (along with PT standards).




Our head maintainence guy says you can tell there are Officers nearby by the puddle of urine left under the urinal, and the larger the puddle the higher the rank. (fatter=less able to see and aim wang).

This came up as we were discussing the state of the floor in the bathroom in an office with 2 MGs, 2 LTCs, and a handful of CPTs and MAJs.
 
2012-08-15 01:13:53 PM  

rvabenji: aseras: Englebert Slaptyback: What's the first reaction of the National Reconnaissance Office deputy director, an Air Force major general, upon learning she had four whistleblowers reporting illegal activity? "I would like to find them and fire them"


She'll be promoted to Lt. Colonel for this.

She's a Major GENERAL dumbass. She's got 2 stars.

What is wrong with you? Would you interact this way to a person face to face who may have made an innocent mistake?


You sound like you're new around here. (welcometofark.jpg)
 
2012-08-15 01:28:05 PM  

ThrowYourHatredDown: As someone who just completed the "No FEAR" training, I am getting a kick out of this story. DoD employees know what I am talking about. I want to see her certificate.


What did you have to do, look up her dress?
 
2012-08-15 01:34:32 PM  
I think I read this in How to Win Friends and Influence People by Ghengis Khan.
 
2012-08-15 01:42:13 PM  
Good to know the US government is always willing to go Full Paterno.
 
2012-08-15 01:51:09 PM  

DanZero: IMG TAGS !!!

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geeze, all I ever got was outstanding unit and expert marksman.
 
2012-08-15 02:03:12 PM  
Fat asian? That's some self-loathing there.

Somebody knows they're ugly, and isn't too happy.

Add in the vindictive, entitled personality and I'll bet you a million yen that she sleeps alone and cries most nights.


/One can only hope.
 
2012-08-15 02:14:00 PM  

Weaver95: to be fair, Bush unleashed a lot of our current problems - he signed the Patriot Act.


And Obama renewed it and added some of his own fascism to the mix. Why do you guys keep giving him a pass when he does the same things that made you irate when Bush did them? Don't you see that you are no better than the neocons that made excuses for everything Bush did? The PATRIOT act is never going away. You farking morons are too busy cheering for your team rather than sticking to your principles. It's disgusting.
 
2012-08-15 02:27:22 PM  

BillCo: Weaver95: NONE of this is Obama's fault.

During the Bush administration, if a cat was run over by a mail truck in Baltimore, some moron would come on here and say "I blame Bush". Now we have major scandals rocking some of the biggest agencies in the government and you say "NONE of this is Obama's fault" You're carrying that Messiah worship a bit too far. It's time to see about a little intervention.


See, here's the funny thing. The people who were blaming Bush for every single last thing were mouth breathing farktards. Doing the same thing just for a different guy? Congrats....mouthbreathing farktard.

(here's a hint, if you don't like that a group of people is disparaging someone for what you see as no reason, going ahead and disparaging someone else for what is no reason doesn't make you principled, it doens't make you observant, it doesn't even make you seem smart in the slightest bit. It makes you look like an idiotic hypocrite. That's it. Nothing else.)
 
2012-08-15 02:28:01 PM  
"I would like to find them and fire them"

Hello, I'd like to report another illegal action.
 
2012-08-15 02:36:43 PM  

liam76: I guess we still have morons that are confusing mass release of anything secret they can get their hands on and whistleblowing.


His aim was absolutely to whistleblow. Even the incomplete logs of the Lamo conversation show that his goal was transparency and bringing the 2007 helicopter and more to light. He took a shotgun approach instead of a scalpel.


HotIgneous Intruder: Manning will probably be tried for espionage, which is okey-dokey.


That is one of the charges in the 2nd group, yes.
18 U.S.C. § 793(e)

Interestingly, during the period he was being subjected to isolation torture, the charges he had been brought up on at that time had a maximum combined miltary sentence of less then fifteen years.

When people pointed out he was being tortured for violating statues for which their punishments indicated that the crimes were light to moderate, the prosecutors subsequently added a new bunch of charges that upped the stakes to a potential death penalty.


dittybopper: See that stain on the carpet? That's the purple piss my heart bleeds for him.


What harm do you believe he has caused that would justify torture? The US armed forces have repeatedly stated that no US asset was harmed due to the wikileaks document dump.
 
2012-08-15 02:47:49 PM  
Yea, I'd hit it----with a brick
 
2012-08-15 02:47:58 PM  

Cubicle Jockey: liam76: I guess we still have morons that are confusing mass release of anything secret they can get their hands on and whistleblowing.

His aim was absolutely to whistleblow. He took a shotgun approach instead of a scalpel.


No. Whistleblowing is releasing info that highlights a wrongdoing. He was releasing info on naything he could get his hands on.


Cubicle Jockey: He took a shotgun approach instead of a scalpel


A "shotgun approach" is not whistleblowing.
 
2012-08-15 02:52:58 PM  

umad: You farking morons are too busy cheering for your team rather than sticking to your principles. It's disgusting.



But to be fair, they aren't failing to stick to their principles. They have them weighted in a different way then you or I do. Here is an example of the internal monolgue they have experienced:

"Because Obama's economic policies are better than the insanity of the GOP platform, because he will not roll back the past thirty years of environmental regulations that protect the air I breathe and the water I drink, because he will not start bombing Iran a week after he is sworn in, because he has come out in favorite of gay marriage..., I will ignore his radical expansion of executive authority and the surveillance state."

I can be dissapointed in that view, but I can't neccessarily fault them. Afterall, it probably won't be them or their loved one that is swept up by federal law enforcement. A variant of Pascal's Wager, maybe?
 
2012-08-15 02:53:17 PM  
this culture of corruption is romneys fault. people are catching on that if elected, greed and corruption will be permitted to run rampant, and everyone is just trying to get in on the ground floor.
 
2012-08-15 02:54:52 PM  

HotIgneous Intruder: BillCo: Just more proof that the agencies under the Obama administration are out of control.

Like they weren't under Bush?


In fairness to W, he never said he'd try to fix them ;-)
 
2012-08-15 02:56:24 PM  

Cubicle Jockey: His aim was absolutely to whistleblow. Even the incomplete logs of the Lamo conversation show that his goal was transparency and bringing the 2007 helicopter and more to light. He took a shotgun approach instead of a scalpel.


And therein lies his downfall.

Plus, I don't buy the altruistic motive crap: It was pure revenge for his perceived mistreatment by the military. If it was altruistic, he wouldn't have done a data dump like that, he would have only released legitimately bad stuff. There are plenty of things that are secret and should remain so, and that aren't necessarily embarrassing to the US but nonetheless can damage it, and Manning didn't farking care. He just wanted to hurt the system that hurt him.

Plus, he was held in "prevention of injury" status, which given his confused mental state, was probably appropriate. That's why he was in "solitary".
 
2012-08-15 03:09:41 PM  

Snarfangel: CommieTaoist: Regardless of any wrongdoing with the contracts, she should be fired for being stupid enough to say something so idiotic in front of an IG.

I think she should be fired, too, but where would we find a cannon that size?


The Missouri is still in Pearl Harbor, I'm sure we could retrofit a sabot of some kind...
 
2012-08-15 03:11:37 PM  

Cubicle Jockey: The US armed forces have repeatedly stated that no US asset was harmed due to the wikileaks document dump.


Would they say so if foreign intelligence agencies received extremely damaging information?
Uh no. It's called counterintelligence.

Never mind the diplomatic damage.
Maning knew the consequences of his actions. He got specific training and instruction in what would happen to him if he did what he did. Yet, he did it anyway. Sucks to be him.
Also, it commonly takes time for prosecutors to bring a full set of charges.

You'd think the Army would have done a more thorough background check on him.
 
2012-08-15 03:13:41 PM  

dittybopper: And therein lies his downfall.


Also, he was a dysfuntional loon with an alcoholic mom, an abusive father, and an unsettled childhood and young adult life. Read about him here.
 
2012-08-15 03:30:29 PM  

Pribar: Weaver95: BillCo: Weaver95: NONE of this is Obama's fault.

During the Bush administration, if a cat was run over by a mail truck in Baltimore, some moron would come on here and say "I blame Bush". Now we have major scandals rocking some of the biggest agencies in the government and you say "NONE of this is Obama's fault" You're carrying that Messiah worship a bit too far. It's time to see about a little intervention.

to be fair, Bush unleashed a lot of our current problems - he signed the Patriot Act. took a couple/few years for these issues to surface though. Bush stripped a LOT of civilian oversight out of this process. Congress helped of course. And the corporate press hammered home the message that these measures were necessary for 'national defense'. People stopped paying attention, and the military (and all our intel agencies really) learned that they had very few restrictions on how they could operate.

Now we're seeing that this permissive and secretive culture is breeding bad leaders. well no shiat - what did you THINK was going to happen? in order to fix that sort of situation, Obama would have to completely rebuild several US intelligence agencies....and he doesn't have that sort of political capital. NOBODY has that sort of political capital. I"m sure this director is going to be ordered to fall on her sword. which she will do. then she'll retire and be moved off stage. Obama will say the matter is closed, the NRO will close ranks and the abuses will silently continue with the public none the wiser. you can biatch about that if you'd like...but it really wouldn't matter who's in the white house when it comes to this sort of organization. we've given the spies damn near unlimited power and I don't know how we're ever going to stuff them back into the box.


Actually it is Obamas fault, I grant that Bush started it, but he is not in the drivers seat now and no matter how many bbbbutt the Rethugs you trow out he is the Commander in Chief, ...


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2012-08-15 03:39:12 PM  

umad: Weaver95: to be fair, Bush unleashed a lot of our current problems - he signed the Patriot Act.

And Obama renewed it and added some of his own fascism to the mix. Why do you guys keep giving him a pass when he does the same things that made you irate when Bush did them? Don't you see that you are no better than the neocons that made excuses for everything Bush did? The PATRIOT act is never going away. You farking morons are too busy cheering for your team rather than sticking to your principles. It's disgusting.


usoundmad
 
2012-08-15 03:43:17 PM  
Waaaa Waaaa Waaaaa, I've been told on by people that I abuse, I'm so shocked that they told on me but I'm going to waaa waaa waaa anyway.

More useless people using my money that need to be canned right away.

Here's another Moron that thought its just OK to take bribes for contracts:

http://www.ajc.com/news/cobb/former-labor-department-employee-1499278 . html
 
2012-08-15 04:06:46 PM  
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Chubby asian woman with a pension? Why, hello there, my little sugar plum!
 
2012-08-15 06:09:30 PM  

Callous: We get it. Anything that goes wrong during Obama's term is all George Bush's fault and anything that goes right is 100% credited to Obama.


YES just like every other administration ever, you act like that's some kind of surprise or something.
 
2012-08-15 06:22:28 PM  
Obiwanfartbama is awesome! And raiding medical cannabis after promising to leave it alone, and deporting more immigrants than Bush did in his eight years, and signing the NDAA, and surging in Afghanistan, and saying he believes in gay marriage without really fighting for it, and running a kill list, and running Gitmo, and backing down on the public option, and bailing out banks...

YES, MORE FASCISM PLEASE.
 
2012-08-15 08:04:13 PM  

BillCo: Weaver95: BillCo: Just more proof that the agencies under the Obama administration are out of control.

Obama passed the Patriot Act...? wow. I didn't know he had a time machine.

Weav, you old dog. I knew you were an ultra lefty liberal, but I didn't realize until now that you are also obtuse. I was referring to the complete lack of leadership that Obama has displayed to the agencies under him. This is just one more example of weak leadership.

But then, what can you expect from a community organizer with no real experience.


So, illegal activity has never happened under a republican president? Riiiiight. You just keep denying the facts, if that helps you sleep at night.
 
2012-08-16 12:07:18 AM  

BillCo: Weaver95: NONE of this is Obama's fault.

During the Bush administration, if a cat was run over by a mail truck in Baltimore, some moron would come on here and say "I blame Bush".


Well thank you for stepping up and volunteering to be the moron for the Obama era.
 
2012-08-16 07:39:35 AM  

HotIgneous Intruder: dittybopper: And therein lies his downfall.

Also, he was a dysfuntional loon with an alcoholic mom, an abusive father, and an unsettled childhood and young adult life. Read about him here.


I know. I just didn't want to open up the whole gay can of worms.
 
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