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(Brisbane Times)   Male flying alone and seated next to a minor? Why don't you have a seat right over there instead   (brisbanetimes.com.au) divider line 183
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2012-08-15 12:17:03 PM  

JustTheTip: fortean chicken: Who the heck wants to sit next to a child anyway? I'd be thanking the flight attendant for getting me out of there. I flippin' hate kids.

I'd rather sit next to a child that a humungous, musky fat person whose side-hams are blurping over the arm rest and taking up 30% of my seat. It's happened more than once, and I always thought that if lard-ass was going to be using part of my seat, he/she should have chipped in for my ticket.


But you get to feel superior to someone else for free... it all evens out.
 
2012-08-15 12:20:19 PM  

I May Be Crazy But...: JustTheTip: fortean chicken: Who the heck wants to sit next to a child anyway? I'd be thanking the flight attendant for getting me out of there. I flippin' hate kids.

I'd rather sit next to a child that a humungous, musky fat person whose side-hams are blurping over the arm rest and taking up 30% of my seat. It's happened more than once, and I always thought that if lard-ass was going to be using part of my seat, he/she should have chipped in for my ticket.

...have you considered trying to molest the fat guy?


...or at least trying to poke yer pecker into one of his side hams?
 
2012-08-15 12:24:23 PM  

JustTheTip: I'd rather sit next to a child that a humungous, musky fat person whose side-hams are blurping over the arm rest and taking up 30% of my seat.


i12.photobucket.com
 
2012-08-15 12:47:56 PM  
untaken_name: Yes, but while we have somewhere around 250k words, many of them have duplicate meanings because they were appropriated from different languages. I wonder how many words there are with unique definitions in English, and how that compares to other languages.

Heck, other languages have lots of similar definitions for words. They're subject to the same slanguage building as English.

Unique definitions, I'd figure that would be similar since you have nouns (person, place or thing) and verbs (actions).

I would say throw out 'person & place' from nouns and focus on things.

Things are physical objects, so any language that has been exposed to a given thing should have one (or more) words for it.

And for actions, what if one language has a word for a complex series of actions, but another language breaks the steps into multiple words. Do you count each of their verbs as individual words for that action?

Like, one language has a word for 'running in place', but in another language, that concept was never established, so they end up with a phrase instead that consists of their verb for 'running' and their verb for 'standing still'

// Besides, the words meanings with multiple words are balanced by the words with multiple meanings. Just look up the definition of 'mole'.

// how many words do the Eskimo have for snow
 
2012-08-15 01:06:35 PM  
Exact same thing happened to me last week on Airtran. I was flighing alone (I'm a 32 year old male) and was seated next to a ~8 year old girl who was flying alone. She had a middle seat between me and another guy, and like the article, second to last row in the plane. The flight attendant asked the girl if she'd be more comfortable sitting one row back closer to her where they was a free seat. The girl said she was fine. Then she asked me if I wanted to sit in the exit row since there were a couple free seats up there (i.e., no one next to me plus a lot more leg room). I took it, but still seems a little insulting now. I figured they may want to give the girl more space and help keep their eye on her.
 
2012-08-15 01:09:54 PM  
from all the biatching and moaning in this article, there appears to be two little girls in this story...

/distress and mental anguish thoroughly documented, lawsuit commencing in 3...2...
 
2012-08-15 01:13:36 PM  

Fark_Guy_Rob: The majority of child molesters are family friends.
The majority of child molesters are female.


Mom is usually the neglecter or physical abuser.
Mom's boyfriend or a male relative of the child is usually the diddler.
 
2012-08-15 01:19:36 PM  
The people that see pedos everywhere and raise the biggest ruckus remind me of the Republicans that rail against queers. They always get outed as the thing they hate.
 
2012-08-15 01:23:27 PM  

Pribar: card


Slip force. http://www.scribd.com/doc/24958848/Easy-Card-Tricks-Make-a-Chosen-Card -Appear-In-Your-Shoe
 
2012-08-15 01:34:28 PM  

Oblio13: My ex claimed that I pointed a gun at her face. When she got on the witness stand my lawyer asked, "What color was it?" She "couldn't remember". "There was a gun pointed at your face and you don't know what color it was?" She broke down and the charges were dropped. That part of the trial is a fond memory. The sleepless nights and the checks I wrote are not. And to this day I get people around town pointing and whispering from time to time. But the most depressing part is that there were no repercussions for the fabrication. If the justice system were just, if there wasn't a systemic bias against men, false accusers would face jail time.


Damn, you mean they actually let you fight the case against her? In my case it immediately removed her as a victim the moment she filed the report but they used this one police report as sole evidence that I'm a menace. My lawyer and I were pissed at the state prosecutor when we built our initial case and gave evidence to the judge that demonstrated this being completely false. Myspace status updates, emails and text messages. The prosecutor said that this information wasn't valid because she isn't part of the case and I'm taking on the state as a matter of health and well being for the citizens. WTF? We felt like we were talking to a wall. I'd like to take her to court but I know that it will just be more money out of pocket and she will never pay for damages. Not to mention there is a BS no contact order for life that she will likely haunt me with again. One wrong step and I could end up talking to her. What does this mean if I accidentally talk to her? Back to jail... (because there is nothing in it that says she can't contact me)
 
2012-08-15 01:37:30 PM  
Couldn't this issue be easily solved by assigning seats before the boarding passes are printed? If a kiddo gets a window seat flag the middle seat as woman only. When a male goes to select a seat on the intertubes it could be shaded out as unavailable but be still available to a woman.
 
2012-08-15 01:42:52 PM  

LiberalEastCoastElitist: Couldn't this issue be easily solved by assigning seats before the boarding passes are printed? If a kiddo gets a window seat flag the middle seat as woman only. When a male goes to select a seat on the intertubes it could be shaded out as unavailable but be still available to a woman.


I'd like to sit in the "whites only" section please.

/bigotry is bigotry... even when it occurs behind the scenes...
 
2012-08-15 01:54:56 PM  

Inflatable Rhetoric: I sat next to a girl age 10 to 13 from Houston to Seattle.

We played some kid's card game. No problem until baggage claim, when she spoke to me and her mother saw it. She called security, ranted awhile. I left.


It's because you kept winning the card games and the girl told her mother "that man kept beating me!"
 
hej
2012-08-15 02:10:02 PM  

Ebbelwoi: Half the country boycotts some chicken joint cause the founder gives a teensy part of the profits to anti-gay Baptists but straight-forward, in your face anti-male bigotry and no one is boycotting anything?


Which country is "the country"?
 
2012-08-15 02:15:47 PM  
Well this looks appropriate for a CSB...

[csb] I was in a Walmart going over the LEGOs and getting ready to head for the back exit when I heard a kid crying the next aisle over so I grabbed the set I wanted and went an aisle over. I found a little girl crying that she couldn't find her parents so I asked her to come with me to the security guys so we could find her folks. I stay out of people's affairs normally, but you're a cold hearted motherfarker if you can just keep walking around the store seeing a seven or eight year old girl crying and asking everyone who passes by if they've seen her folks(quite a few people just ignored her). On the way there she grabbed my hand and just outside of the security area I got cold cocked in the temple by a dude who was about a hundred pounds heavier than me from behind, he yelled something along the lines of "You goddamn pervert!" right before I got hit. Shook my head up pretty good and knocked me off my feet, effectively preventing me from fighting back, and I took a couple hits on the ground before the girl yelled "Daddy, he was just taking me to find you! Stop hurting him!" He actually was rather apologetic about the whole thing, and bought the stupid LEGO set I'd been carrying for me which freed up a few bucks to buy some beer and weed on the way home. He sheepishly approached me in the parking lot and gave me a six pack of Blue Moon too, but the way he was talking I think he was more concerned I'd call the police than anything, the mom and girl both gave me a big hug, it was a weird situation.

I laughed it off, I've taken much worse beatings without needing to get the cops involved and I certainly understood why I'd gotten hit even if the guy was off-base. I usually just get my head pounded in because my mouth runs faster than my brain when I've been drinking, I wasn't exactly holding a grudge against the guy(we're both lucky he hit me where he did, since I'm one hell of a boxer when I'm on my feet and my hands run faster than my brain after a sucker punch. That would have been a whole different mess to deal with) although I told him he might want to yell BEFORE hitting someone in the future.

For what it's worth I doubt I fit the profile of "child rapist" portrayed in the media, I'm an early 20's guy with a mowhawk(usually slicked back and naturally colored, not a big ass blue punker liberty spike affair or anything, unless I'm feeling like spiking it it's usually more akin to a narrow undercut than what most people would think of as a mowhawk) and rather a lot of ear piercings.[/csb]

It's gotten to the point this is a panic though, I generally could give two shiats what people think of me but adult males HAVE to be careful around children. When actually liking kids immediately puts you in most people's "possible kiddie fiddler" file, there's likely something wrong with the society. I seem to recall liking and being good with kids as being some sort of positive trait in the past. I've had the cops called on me taking my friend's kids to the park when I was living with them, my "suspicious behavior" was just the fact that I was playing with them instead of sitting on a park bench reading a novel like the lady who called the cops on me. It took all of a minute for the cops to realize I'm the kids' godfather(legally too, my friends had better live forever so I never have to own up to that obligation) and was living with their folks about two blocks away, but since I didn't have an ID it turned into a half hour pain in the ass and a horrible afternoon for the kids while we sat around waiting for the father to come pick us up and confirm it was okay for me to be out with the kids. His response was... more colorful than my quietly answering their questions.

Maybe I'm just biatchy because I got woken up early this morning, but it seems to me there's something deeply wrong with our society in this area. Witch hunts are not the proper way to handle something like this, even if it has scored me free beer and LEGOs in the past.
 
2012-08-15 02:20:57 PM  

Oblio13: FirstNationalBastard:

It was hard enough defending myself with a lawyer after I was arrested on a warrant for allegedly choking my ex. The first 2 judges (males) that oversaw my case along with the DA and state prosecutor gave me no wiggle room to get out of it. They saw her words in the report and trusted them completely (including the inconsistencies). I was looking at either spending $20k just to start the trial process or slammed with a felony conviction if I went the guilty or no contest route. The 3rd judge (a female) lambasted all of them in the courtroom when she started asking questions that none of them could answer. She then demanded that the state prosecutor get this girl on the phone. A call was placed for the whole room to hear, "This number has been disconnected" No shiat dumbasses I tried telling all of you in the beginning that this whole rouse was filed with a phone she could toss a day before she fled to New York ...

My ex claimed that I pointed a gun at her face. When she got on the witness stand my lawyer asked, "What color was it?" She "couldn't remember". "There was a gun pointed at your face and you don't know what color it was?" She broke down and the charges were dropped. That part of the trial is a fond memory. The sleepless nights and the checks I wrote are not. And to this day I get people around town pointing and whispering from time to time. But the most depressing part is that there were no repercussions for the fabrication. If the justice system were just, if there wasn't a systemic bias against men, false accusers would face jail time.


Good luck, my ex

SundaesChild: snow9999: There was a story a year or two ago about how a little boy drowned in a pond. A guy came forward and said he had seen the child wandering the street, but because we was worried about being branded a molester if he had tried to help the child, he just kept driving. This crap is why that child died, instead of being taken to the police and reunited with his family.

If that is true, he is at best an ass and at worst criminally negligent. At the very least he should have flagged down a cop or called 911 but no, he had to go all "men's rights" instead of doing his civic duty toward another human being.


You've never been or had a relative falsely accused of child abuse have you? I'll leave it at that other than say blame society not him.

/avoids kids like the plague after a false accusation of a family member a while back.
 
2012-08-15 02:30:55 PM  

FirstNationalBastard: And that's why it's easiest not to deal with children, or even women.
No one ever doubts what they say. It can be the most outlandish, baseless, unprovable lie, but because it was said by a woman or child, it's the absolute truth.


Liar.
 
2012-08-15 02:33:11 PM  

cryinoutloud: FirstNationalBastard: And that's why it's easiest not to deal with children, or even women.
No one ever doubts what they say. It can be the most outlandish, baseless, unprovable lie, but because it was said by a woman or child, it's the absolute truth.

Liar.


Saying I'm a liar is a lie, but no one will question it because you're a woman.

/Hi, R-Flash!
 
2012-08-15 02:35:22 PM  

jaytkay: WhippingBoy: Try bringing this up with a third-wave, feminist bigot some time. In most cases you'll get one (or both) of the following responses:
1. TPHMT ("The Patriarchy Hurts Men Too")
2. "On noes, what about the menz???" (Ultra-condescending way to say "because you're a man, your problems and concerns don't matter")

I'm sure you run into women like that every day

/ On your AM radio
// In your basement
/// Among the empty cheetoh bags


People like you, i.e., part of the problem, have clearly never had a run-in with the anti-male white knights of the system. Once you do, you will join us. And there are more of us every day.
/Uncle Tom
 
2012-08-15 02:43:20 PM  
My girlfriend and I went out to a restaurant last night, and some of the other diners started calling me a "pedo" and a "cradle snatcher," all because I'm a 52-year-old man with a 21-year-old girlfriend. It totally ruined our 10th anniversary.
 
2012-08-15 02:48:01 PM  

LiberalEastCoastElitist: Couldn't this issue be easily solved by assigning seats before the boarding passes are printed? If a kiddo gets a window seat flag the middle seat as woman only. When a male goes to select a seat on the intertubes it could be shaded out as unavailable but be still available to a woman.


Yes.... that will solve the.... misandry problem...
 
2012-08-15 03:08:36 PM  

Death_Poot: Oblio13: FirstNationalBastard:

It was hard enough defending myself with a lawyer after I was arrested on a warrant for allegedly choking my ex. The first 2 judges (males) that oversaw my case along with the DA and state prosecutor gave me no wiggle room to get out of it. They saw her words in the report and trusted them completely (including the inconsistencies). I was looking at either spending $20k just to start the trial process or slammed with a felony conviction if I went the guilty or no contest route. The 3rd judge (a female) lambasted all of them in the courtroom when she started asking questions that none of them could answer. She then demanded that the state prosecutor get this girl on the phone. A call was placed for the whole room to hear, "This number has been disconnected" No shiat dumbasses I tried telling all of you in the beginning that this whole rouse was filed with a phone she could toss a day before she fled to New York ...

My ex claimed that I pointed a gun at her face. When she got on the witness stand my lawyer asked, "What color was it?" She "couldn't remember". "There was a gun pointed at your face and you don't know what color it was?" She broke down and the charges were dropped. That part of the trial is a fond memory. The sleepless nights and the checks I wrote are not. And to this day I get people around town pointing and whispering from time to time. But the most depressing part is that there were no repercussions for the fabrication. If the justice system were just, if there wasn't a systemic bias against men, false accusers would face jail time.

Good luck, my ex SundaesChild: snow9999: There was a story a year or two ago about how a little boy drowned in a pond. A guy came forward and said he had seen the child wandering the street, but because we was worried about being branded a molester if he had tried to help the child, he just kept driving. This crap is why that child died, instead of being taken to the police and reunited with his family.

If that is true, he is at best an ass and at worst criminally negligent. At the very least he should have flagged down a cop or called 911 but no, he had to go all "men's rights" instead of doing his civic duty toward another human being.

You've never been or had a relative falsely accused of child abuse have you? I'll leave it at that other than say blame society not him.

/avoids kids like the plague after a false accusation of a family member a while back.


Actually that is the reason that my ex-husband got out of teaching - He was never accused of anything but he was made to feel uncomfortable. Still, if he saw an unattended small child he would have tried to do something instead of just letting the kid drown or get hit by a car or whatever.
 
2012-08-15 03:14:45 PM  

SundaesChild: Actually that is the reason that my ex-husband got out of teaching - He was never accused of anything but he was made to feel uncomfortable. Still, if he saw an unattended small child he would have tried to do something instead of just letting the kid drown or get hit by a car or whatever.


Still, sad as it is, you have to look at it this way...

If someone comes in on the end of a man saving a puppy from the middle of the road, running away and carrying the puppy in his arms, what are they going to think? "wow, that guy must have saved that puppy from being run over."

However, If someone comes in on the end of a man saving a child from the middle of the road, seemingly running away and carrying the child in his arms, what are they going to think? "ZOMG PEDO CALL THE POLICE BEAT HIM WITH A STICK PEDOFILE!!!1111!!2"

It's just the way it is. And does anyone need that hassle? No, it's not the right thing to do, but it's the smart thing to do if you want to continue to have a life.
 
2012-08-15 04:05:29 PM  

balisane: Vertdang: Pribar: darkmayo: I had a flight when I was around 30 and there was an unaccompanied child next to me, kid was about 10 or 11 I think.

Normally I just pop in the ear buds and watch the TV or play DS but this kid was practising card tricks and he was doing sleight of hand tricks. It was totally awesome, as the kid was pretty good.

/CSB

(threadjack)
when I was on the old Iwo Jima there was this navy bosun who would walk up while we were playing cards, ask if it was a full deck and if we would say yes he would hand one of us a sealed envelope and have that person shuffle and cut the deck and flip the cut up to show the bottom card, then he would have that person open the envelope and in it would be a piece of paper with the fricken card he had just cut to written on it, he did this every few days choosing different people and decks each time and was never wrong, I have not met anyone till this day who can tell me how the SoB did it
(/threadjack)

Carbon paper in the envelope, used the fingernail to write on the paper after the card was shown.
/what else you got? :)

The story states that the sealed envelope was handed over before the deck was shuffled or card was shown. Assuming the sequence of events is correct, that would require an accomplice in each group.

/kind of puzzled over this one myself


I can do this trick. I'm not going to tell you how, but I can do it easily, if I'm the one shuffling the deck.
 
2012-08-15 04:15:05 PM  

ladyfortuna: When I was 15 I flew to and from Nevada by myself for a Girl Scout trip; I don't recall any special seating arrangements for any of the legs (and there were several, each way). My mom also didn't give me any 'special' safety instructions other than the usual.


Things were different in 1945.
 
2012-08-15 04:41:55 PM  
Or the kid could just put out.

/Yes, of course I'm joking

Two things I stay far away from: other people's money, and other people's yard apes.
 
2012-08-15 06:19:48 PM  

WhippingBoy: /bigotry is bigotry... even when it occurs behind the scenes...


"a person obstinately or intolerantly devoted to his or her own opinions and prejudices; especially: one who regards or treats the members of a group (as a racial or ethnic group) with hatred and intolerance"

I think I could make a pretty good argument that switching seats is less "intolerantly devoted to his or her own opinions" than nursing a massive butthurt and victimhood complex out of proportion to reality, as evidenced to your comparing it to race segregated transportation.

Still don't think it's really necessary. Has there been a single instance of a kid being molested on a plane?
 
2012-08-15 07:43:51 PM  

LiberalEastCoastElitist: WhippingBoy: /bigotry is bigotry... even when it occurs behind the scenes...

"a person obstinately or intolerantly devoted to his or her own opinions and prejudices; especially: one who regards or treats the members of a group (as a racial or ethnic group) with hatred and intolerance"

I think I could make a pretty good argument that switching seats is less "intolerantly devoted to his or her own opinions" than nursing a massive butthurt and victimhood complex out of proportion to reality, as evidenced to your comparing it to race segregated transportation.

Still don't think it's really necessary. Has there been a single instance of a kid being molested on a plane?


Sure, blame the victim.
 
2012-08-15 09:40:52 PM  

Tenatra: tankjr: I'm ok with this. All men are presumed to be rapists and pedophiles until proven otherwise. The only way to prove you're not a rapist or a pedophile is to die without having raped anyone. Until then, you're a rapist and a pedophile.

Even then you aren't safe. There is a radio dj here that will occasionally talk about being sexually abused as a child now that her uncle (the pedo) is dead. Only she can tell you if it is true though. I can imagine seeing people start to prey on obituaries looking for prominent individuals within their local communities and come forward after the death of the 'assailant' by cooking up a story and trying to claim grievance money. Especially since the target wouldn't be able to defend himself.

It was hard enough defending myself with a lawyer after I was arrested on a warrant for allegedly choking my ex. The first 2 judges (males) that oversaw my case along with the DA and state prosecutor gave me no wiggle room to get out of it. They saw her words in the report and trusted them completely (including the inconsistencies). I was looking at either spending $20k just to start the trial process or slammed with a felony conviction if I went the guilty or no contest route. The 3rd judge (a female) lambasted all of them in the courtroom when she started asking questions that none of them could answer. She then demanded that the state prosecutor get this girl on the phone. A call was placed for the whole room to hear, "This number has been disconnected" No shiat dumbasses I tried telling all of you in the beginning that this whole rouse was filed with a phone she could toss a day before she fled to New York...

Charges dropped on the spot = :)
But by that time, 2 years later, my life had been royally farked (her goal in the first place). People at work thought I was farked up in the head, eventually got kicked out of the military, car repossessed, and I was homeless all because no one validated her accusations. = :(


Wow, dude. I am sorry for your predicament. I am going through a similar experience in Family Court in NY. I was served with an Order of Protection filed by my mother and crackhead/alcoholic sister on June 1, at 3:30pm on a Friday. It was filed ex parte, and I was given no warning. I had 5 minutes to pack a bag and leave in the rain. I was not allowed to wait around for the school bus to drop off my son to try to explain things to him. I waited 10 days just to hear from him since I was not allowed to call him at my mom's house.
My son and I were living with her temporarily after we moved back from SC. We argued a lot b/c she kept trying to undermine my parenting, nosed around my stuff, listened in on my phone calls, followed me around in her car when I went for walks, or to meet up with friends, etc.
I got so fed up, that I threw a Wii remote across the living room in a moment of weakness. That's all she needed to get the emergency OOP--a month afterwards. It was such an emergency, that she waited three weeks to go to the courthouse.
Three hearings, and I have not yet had a chance to say a single word to defend myself, or argue the merits of the OOP.
Since Jun 1, I have only been able to see my son twice and the judge gave her temporary sole custody of my son.
I was homeless for about three weeks, staying on a friend's couch, then squatting in an abandoned property that was in a flooded out neighborhood.
All it takes is an inflammatory accusation...
 
2012-08-16 01:06:34 AM  

derekdoubleut: Three hearings, and I have not yet had a chance to say a single word to defend myself, or argue the merits of the OOP.


That's how it was for the most part, we were just going through the motions at every hearing. I weighed the options and chose to go the route of no contest and take the court appointed DV course for a partially reduced sentence and play the waiting game in hopes that I'd get a judge the knew how to spot fallacies. The DV program was a 3 phase program and I was stuck in an endless loop on phase 1. Unless you have a decent amount of money on hand then watch out about taking a DV course as part of a deal. Here is how the one I went to worked at $40 a session (eventually increased the rates to $50/session)

Miss 1 session and you go back 2 weeks in training. ($80 at when you come back)
Don't keep your payments in good standing within a week and you aren't allowed to be there.
Miss 2 sessions in a row and they will send you back to jail. (which could be especially hard since at that point you are paying 4 session at once)
Don't admit to committing the accused crime? Fark you, you go back halfway in phase 1 until you are willing to admit it at the next 1-1 counseling session.

I had some money at the time from still being in the military and I played Russian roulette with this rule set. My agreement was very strict to complete this DV course and if it wasn't completed then they instated the full charge. At the 1-1 session I wasn't going to have a recorded confession of something that didn't happen, they couldn't understand this since I pleaded no contest. They acted like if I was truly innocent then throwing $30k+ easily down the drain was no big deal. The 3rd judge talked to me like I was actually a human being and not a docket entry and she wanted an investigation in to the DV program because she had a feeling that there were many people falling through the cracks but never had a voice. Hopefully there was an audit or I gave future attendees a better chance at surviving through it at the one I attended.

When I became homeless a good friend took me in since she likened me to her brother and her kids loved me. She was going through a custody battle with her ex and that is a whole different can of worms. They shared split custody and when the kids came to stay my friend had to always keep her camera nearby. If the children ended up hurting themselves she had to document everything including the cuts, scrapes, bruises associated with being a normal child. She had to document what was happening and take pictures of what they ran in to/fell on. It was like a freaking crime scene investigation. On top of that I had to write my own letters to sign off as a witness to the events which helped her if he took her to court over the minor injuries. (and he did take her to court a few times over these). Since she was single and in the military she couldn't claim sole custody but she recently got married and finally sealed the custody battle that was going on for 4 years (ages 7 and 5 now). Poor kids, they spend their youth in the courtrooms while their guardians fight for custody and outside of the courtroom they can't live a normal childhood for fear that the other guardian screams abuse.
 
2012-08-16 01:09:00 AM  
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The worst kind.

My CSB:
Last week I went to Subway for lunch (it's the only 'decent' (non fried fast food) food within time constraint and bicycle riding distance of work) and I saw a familiar vehicle in the parking lot. Yep, as soon as I walked in, I see my 16yo (17?) nephew in there. So I walk over and he is with his younger brother, 8yo. I talked to them for a few minutes and then when I turned around to order my food, all the other customers looked aghast. They all looked like I walked in there wearing a baby cod piece and carrying a nun's severed head. I scowled back at them as best as I could and then proceeded to sit and eat with my nephews. We talked, we laughed. A good time was had by all. I was sure I was going to get spoken to or the cops were going to 'conveniently' show up.

/39yo male
 
2012-08-17 05:58:44 AM  

HAMMERTOE: And no, they can not be "held liable for filing a false report" simply because all they have to say is, "It looked like child abuse to me."


That isn't a falsifiable statement, so no, they probably can't be held strictly liable unless you can prove it was knowingly false. But it's also not a very strong report, particularly if the reporter has a history of this sort of thing, and would likely only be investigated cursorily.

I also don't see how that's different than anyone else who makes any other complaint to the police; if you made a report of a suspected break-in or domestic abuse or any other crime the police would investigate that too -- that's the expected action after a report is filed.

And in any case it's unrelated to mandatory reporting requirements, as those requirements neither encourage nor discourage abuse of the legal system, nor provide any additional protections for abusers.
 
2012-08-17 11:13:25 AM  

profplump: But it's also not a very strong report, particularly if the reporter has a history of this sort of thing, and would likely only be investigated cursorily.


That's the rub. With Anonymous Reporting, absolutely no weight at all is given to any "reputation" the reporting party might have. All the person has to do is report it to a different "official" and the system will go into a frenzy each and every time
 
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