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2012-08-15 06:48:39 AM
Why not just make sure unaccompanied children are seated on the aisle? No passengers are needlessly embarassed and probably noone's going to do anything with the kid in such full view. Also, easier for the stewardess to check on every 10 minutes. Usually a couple stewardesses, not too much of a hassle to ask one to walk down the aisle every 10 minutes. Oh, and women can be molestors too.
 
2012-08-15 06:50:41 AM

Gothnet: untaken_name: Gothnet: untaken_name: virtdave: gibbon1: Of course anything is better than sitting next to a French sex tourist flying back home from Bangkok.

It's probably more common to sit next to a German sex tourist....there's even a German word ("bomsbomber", i.e., 'farkbomber') to designate airplane flights specializing in such amusements.
And the return flights are called "dripsklipper", i.e., 'clapclipper', since most such tourists have picked up some little venereal friends while in Thailand.

Man, those Germans have a word for EVERYTHING. I'll be talking to one of my German friends and he'll say some two syllable German word. I'll ask him what it means, and he'll be like, "oh, there's not really a word for it in English, it means something like that particular shade of orange that lines the leaves in autumn during a sunrise on a clear, cloudless day". I used to think he was messing with me, but every damn time I call BS, we pull up an English-to-German dictionary, and damned if he isn't dead-on. It's infuriating. I imaging that most of German public schooling consists of vocabulary lessons.

While the Germans do have a lot of compound words with unusual meanings, the breadth of vocabulary found in English is insanely huge by comparison to any other Euro language, possibly any other language on the planet. This is due to our gothic and romantic roots, our appropriating of words from other languages and the huge geographic spread resulting in new slangs and dialects evolving constantly.

Yes, but while we have somewhere around 250k words, many of them have duplicate meanings because they were appropriated from different languages. I wonder how many words there are with unique definitions in English, and how that compares to other languages.

Many, many more. We do have many overlapping terms, but each is accompanied by its own connotations and nuances, two terms that themselves are close in meaning but not a perfect match.

English, by being the klepto of l ...


Touché.
 
2012-08-15 06:51:46 AM

Pribar: balisane: Vertdang: Pribar: darkmayo: I had a flight when I was around 30 and there was an unaccompanied child next to me, kid was about 10 or 11 I think.

Normally I just pop in the ear buds and watch the TV or play DS but this kid was practising card tricks and he was doing sleight of hand tricks. It was totally awesome, as the kid was pretty good.

/CSB

(threadjack)
when I was on the old Iwo Jima there was this navy bosun who would walk up while we were playing cards, ask if it was a full deck and if we would say yes he would hand one of us a sealed envelope and have that person shuffle and cut the deck and flip the cut up to show the bottom card, then he would have that person open the envelope and in it would be a piece of paper with the fricken card he had just cut to written on it, he did this every few days choosing different people and decks each time and was never wrong, I have not met anyone till this day who can tell me how the SoB did it
(/threadjack)

Carbon paper in the envelope, used the fingernail to write on the paper after the card was shown.
/what else you got? :)

The story states that the sealed envelope was handed over before the deck was shuffled or card was shown. Assuming the sequence of events is correct, that would require an accomplice in each group.

/kind of puzzled over this one myself

we thought of the carbon paper but he didn't touch the envelope after he handed it over and he would go up to random Marines and use us to do the trick, I knew some of the guys that got handed the envelope and they were as wigged out by it as I was, and ask any self respecting Marine how likely it would be for one of us to back a squids play against fellow Marines, not likely.


Ah, I missed the "handed over" part. Yeah, that's good.
 
2012-08-15 07:17:14 AM
I normally can't stand the "I don't want to help a crying child because I'm a male" mentality I see a lot on here, but this time the guy was so fine with it that he didn't even know why they moved him at first. The airline just helped perpetuate this myth.
 
2012-08-15 07:21:34 AM

darkmayo: I had a flight when I was around 30 and there was an unaccompanied child next to me, kid was about 10 or 11 I think.

Normally I just pop in the ear buds and watch the TV or play DS but this kid was practising card tricks and he was doing sleight of hand tricks. It was totally awesome, as the kid was pretty good.

/CSB


Did he make your penis disappear?
 
2012-08-15 07:30:27 AM
The clustergrope over child safety is reaching a fevered pitch. Yesterday evening, the entirety of our High School Band Boosters who *might* see a child were summoned to a special meeting, where we were addressed by the principal. He read us a required statement, whereby we are now required to report *all* cases of suspected child abuse to authorities within 24 hours. Then, we all had to fill out and have notarized, signed forms indicating our awareness of said requirements. Any reports will be kept strictly anonymous, and will result upon THE SYSTEM coming down upon the suspect with both iron boots and a microscope. So now, not only are all our school employees co-opted into becoming volunteer DFACS agents by law, we are as well. And the suspect doesn't get the right to face their accuser, in direct violation of the constitutional rights.

Incremental Communism, whereby everybody becomes government agents, one small step at a time. And all in the name of a billion special interests.

Interestingly, they never defined "child abuse".
 
2012-08-15 07:39:55 AM

HAMMERTOE: Interestingly, they never defined "child abuse".



That's easy. Anything. As there is no "Normal use" of a child, the term abuse is meaningless and thereby arbitrary.
 
2012-08-15 07:46:33 AM

tankjr: I'm ok with this. All men are presumed to be rapists and pedophiles until proven otherwise. The only way to prove you're not a rapist or a pedophile is to die without having raped anyone. Until then, you're a rapist and a pedophile.


Werd
 
2012-08-15 07:46:40 AM
God bless the stupid anglo-frocking world.

Come to South America. Here it is routine for fathers, brothers, uncles.. to carry and care for, travel with, kiss the children of their families and everyone just thinks it is adorable and lovely. Of course *ssholes with mental defects and who need castration/ whatever equivalent for women plus lobotomies exist everywhere and everywhere they exist, molestation occurs, but here it is not a given.

The other day, I saw a father lift his daughter and kiss her belly happily and the child squealed in delight. People would think any other behaviour here is abnormal.

I just hope that the utterly stupid behaviour of USA/ Canada/ Australia/UK and Ireland, New Zealand and wherever else this sort of hysteria exists does not infect the rest of the sane world.
 
2012-08-15 08:01:56 AM

HAMMERTOE: Incremental Communism, whereby everybody becomes government agents, one small step at a time. And all in the name of a billion special interests.


Mandatory reporting of crimes against children hardly seems like an onerous expansion of government or the result of special interest policies -- every human being should be happy to help a child report crimes against them. In a purely theoretical political sense I can see why you don't like the concept of mandatory reporting, but from a practical sense I have trouble imagining a scenario where not reporting child abuse is a morally acceptable outcome.

I have no idea what you're on about with respect to "face the accuser" -- you can't file a child abuse report without naming the child that was harmed, because such a report could never be investigated. The adult filing the report is not a party to the crime, they're just making a report, and they can be held liable for filing a false report just like anyone else.

If you've got a problem with how reports of child abuse are handled that might be worthwhile discussion -- the current system has many failings -- but mandatory reporting requirements are on par with the requirement to buy car insurance in terms of infringement of your rights.
 
2012-08-15 08:11:59 AM
Meh, overreaction and sexual discrimination at its purest. Every time I've noted a single male on a flight, he was either A) Sleeping for the duration, B) Working, C) The undercover air marshal. No pedo specs or mustaches that I could discern.
 
2012-08-15 08:12:10 AM

Gyrfalcon: Bigdogdaddy: ladyfortuna: Bigdogdaddy: Obviously the parents weren't concerned about sending the child on a flight by herself. I guess we went from helicopter parents to making airplane parents?

When I was 15 I flew to and from Nevada by myself for a Girl Scout trip; I don't recall any special seating arrangements for any of the legs (and there were several, each way). My mom also didn't give me any 'special' safety instructions other than the usual.

Kids parents today...

Well, 15 is a lot different than 15. The people that booked the airline should have been more aware of the age thing, not that there aren't female pedophiles. Glad nothing bad happened to you.

It's a sad world we live in. ~sigh~

Actually, there ARE female pedophiles, and this presumption that somehow a child is safer with a woman than a man--because we all know only men are incapable of controlling their urges--is what keeps them undetected. Because we all know women never would harm a child, right?


I did some research back in the day, and was shocked to find out the percentages of sex abuse of children by gender was 15% female and 85% male. But I never really trusted this number because my suspicion is that abuse by women is underreported.

It made me wonder what they were doing. Because women cant penetrate and all. More research gave me the terribly depressing answer. Its stuff like bathing with children, fondling them while they sleep, and the same stuff that men did. It just goes unreported because of how people view this stuff.

//subsequently discovered 2 female pedos
///tried to get investigations launched. nothing happened
Not a CSB
 
2012-08-15 08:35:01 AM

SquiggelyGrounders: JohnnyC: But feminism is about equality... right?

Like traffic laws are for safety


Correct. Most traffic laws are for safety, that is a valid example.
 
2012-08-15 08:38:26 AM
www.hollywoodreporter.com
What a kiddie fiddler might look like

/I was worried about doing a GIS for 'kiddie fiddler' at work....
 
2012-08-15 08:45:19 AM
I wouldn't mind a policy of seating kids by themselves. But fark, move the kid not me. Don't say "You're probably a pedo and we don't trust you to sit next to a child" Move the kid and say "We thought you probably didn't want to spend 5 hours trapped next to someone else's crotch goblin."

I'd thank you, and feel better about the flight.

CSB:

Taking a flight one day and was seated next to this 9 (or so) year old spanish girl. She decided to occupy her time by flipping the ashtray door open and closed (this was after no smoking on flights, but before they put in new chairs).
*flip flip* *flip flip* *flip flip* *flip flip* *flip flip*
Hey would you mind not doing that? It's annoying.
I don't speak English. *flip flip* *flip flip* *flip flip* *flip flip* *flip flip* *flip flip*
Hey! please stop doing that.
I don't speak English. *flip flip* *flip flip* *flip flip* *flip flip* *flip flip* *flip flip*
*I point at the ashtray* Please. Stop. Doing. That.
I don't speak English *flip flip* *flip flip* *flip flip* *flip flip* *flip flip* *flip flip*
*I again point at the ashtray and say "NO!"
I don't speak English *flip flip* *flip flip* *flip flip* *flip flip* *flip flip*
*at this point I know she has to be farking with me since 'No' is the same damn word in spanish*
*Slams hand down on the ashtray nearly catching her little hispanic finger in it*
Do you farking understand that??
(she did)
 
2012-08-15 08:49:13 AM
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2012-08-15 08:50:12 AM
I don't think somebody who is willing to stick a 10 year old on a flight alone has a whole lot of room to be complaining about whether random strangers are in the vicinity of their kid. They obviously don't give enough of a fark to arrange something safer, so why should everyone else have to accommodate them?
 
2012-08-15 08:57:19 AM
LAWYERS

suck!
 
2012-08-15 09:00:56 AM

tankjr: HAMMERTOE: Interestingly, they never defined "child abuse".


That's easy. Anything. As there is no "Normal use" of a child, the term abuse is meaningless and thereby arbitrary.


Children are not to be used for the other use, thank you.
 
2012-08-15 09:04:35 AM

Elrond Hubbard: You want to upgrade me to a better section (if possible)? Fine. Otherwise, F off. Move the kid.


So much this. You're going to punish ME for your lack of seating planning? Fark you. I picked this seat specifically because I wanted to sit *here*, next to a window (because I don't get up at all on flights under 5 hours), or close to the washroom (some people like the convenience) or whatever reason. This kid's parent/guardian/owner picked a seat at random.

The choices are:

1) Move the kid.
2) Move me to business or first class.
3) Fark off, you used-up slag of a skywhore (if female attendant) or Fark off, you panty-waisted girly-man poofter (if male attendant)
 
2012-08-15 09:04:37 AM
Half the country boycotts some chicken joint cause the founder gives a teensy part of the profits to anti-gay Baptists but straight-forward, in your face anti-male bigotry and no one is boycotting anything?

FWIW my kids often have to fly unaccompanied to see their grandma and no airline has ever asked me, the parent, whether I have any views and/or choices on who they sit next too. The airlines are full of shiat and are just banking on the fact that anti-male sexist bigotry is the acceptable norm.
 
2012-08-15 09:09:21 AM
Someone was actually p1ssed off enough to make a website comparing policies. No idea if info is correct:

http://www.vcclan.org/forums/view.php?pg=airline_discrimination_table
 
2012-08-15 09:10:22 AM
I'm so afraid of the "all men are probably child molesters" fear that the asshole media has created that I moved to another country (actually, there were also other reasons for the move, such as work and personal interests). I'm a teacher, and if I was around children in Canada I would be constantly paranoid and on edge. The kids would receive a seriously crippled education from me because of that.

My wife is Japanese, and if I was seen alone with half-Japanese kids in my hometown everyone would jump to conclusions of molestation since interracial marriages between whites and Asians are still rare there. I once had a security guard interrogate me because he thought my wife was a child I had abducted, despite us being the same age and her just being small and youngish-looking.

Here in Japan there is no such fear. I teach children almost daily at the school I work for, with no issues at all. I'm often alone in a room with a single child (sometimes girls as young as 6). Even though I'm a big foreign guy with a beard and shaved head, the parents are always delighted and constantly scold their children for acting out of hand. I was once teaching the mother of a family who attended, and her 4 year-old daughter ran into the room after our lesson and started hugging my arm. The mother chuckled and then apologized to me before telling her daughter to stop bothering me. If that were Canada or the US, I would have been beaten to a pulp.
 
2012-08-15 09:12:47 AM
On the minus side, it sucks to be viewed with suspicious just because you are a member of half the human race.

But on the plus side, you don't have to sit beside unaccompanied kids. So there is that.
 
2012-08-15 09:15:59 AM

tankjr: I'm ok with this. All men are presumed to be rapists and pedophiles until proven otherwise. The only way to prove you're not a rapist or a pedophile is to die without having raped anyone. Until then, you're a rapist and a pedophile.


And now you know why we don't stop your children from doing stupid shiat. Forty years ago all adults would stop a child from doing something dangerous and stupid, now fark it they are not my kids and the lawsuit is not worth it, let the little bastard drown.
 
2012-08-15 09:17:25 AM

fusillade762: Qantas has defended its policy, saying it is consistent with that of other airlines around the world and reflects parents' concerns.

If the parents are so concerned why don't they just ACCOMPANY THEIR F*CKING CHILDREN???


Because they are just a little concerned.

And who can blame them, with a potential predator in an escape-proof box surrounded by dozens of witnesses? He might get an inappropriate touch in before being beaten to a pulp by angry passengers.
 
2012-08-15 09:18:05 AM
Oh yeah, welcome to being male in the 21st century, put your big boy underoos on and deal with it.
 
2012-08-15 09:25:54 AM

FirstNationalBastard:

It was hard enough defending myself with a lawyer after I was arrested on a warrant for allegedly choking my ex. The first 2 judges (males) that oversaw my case along with the DA and state prosecutor gave me no wiggle room to get out of it. They saw her words in the report and trusted them completely (including the inconsistencies). I was looking at either spending $20k just to start the trial process or slammed with a felony conviction if I went the guilty or no contest route. The 3rd judge (a female) lambasted all of them in the courtroom when she started asking questions that none of them could answer. She then demanded that the state prosecutor get this girl on the phone. A call was placed for the whole room to hear, "This number has been disconnected" No shiat dumbasses I tried telling all of you in the beginning that this whole rouse was filed with a phone she could toss a day before she fled to New York ...


My ex claimed that I pointed a gun at her face. When she got on the witness stand my lawyer asked, "What color was it?" She "couldn't remember". "There was a gun pointed at your face and you don't know what color it was?" She broke down and the charges were dropped. That part of the trial is a fond memory. The sleepless nights and the checks I wrote are not. And to this day I get people around town pointing and whispering from time to time. But the most depressing part is that there were no repercussions for the fabrication. If the justice system were just, if there wasn't a systemic bias against men, false accusers would face jail time.
 
2012-08-15 09:27:01 AM

Pribar: darkmayo: I had a flight when I was around 30 and there was an unaccompanied child next to me, kid was about 10 or 11 I think.

Normally I just pop in the ear buds and watch the TV or play DS but this kid was practising card tricks and he was doing sleight of hand tricks. It was totally awesome, as the kid was pretty good.

/CSB

(threadjack)
when I was on the old Iwo Jima there was this navy bosun who would walk up while we were playing cards, ask if it was a full deck and if we would say yes he would hand one of us a sealed envelope and have that person shuffle and cut the deck and flip the cut up to show the bottom card, then he would have that person open the envelope and in it would be a piece of paper with the fricken card he had just cut to written on it, he did this every few days choosing different people and decks each time and was never wrong, I have not met anyone till this day who can tell me how the SoB did it
(/threadjack)


Thought I was done with sea stories. Anyway, you forgot the "This is no shiat..."
 
2012-08-15 09:30:29 AM
Seems to me that if parents are okay with their kids traveling by themselves, that they're okay with whoever they end up sitting next to. Airlines shouldn't have to do parents' jobs for them.
 
2012-08-15 09:37:05 AM

MaudlinMutantMollusk: SpikeStrip: i'd probably ask to be moved to another seat myself.

Seriously

/get that damned kid away from me
//and bring me another drink


==========

^Third^

I go out of my way to avoid children in public because it very likely in our paranoid society that the kid might do something, or make some accusation, that can ruin your life.

Case in point:

A few years ago I was on an early morning bike ride. Even though I went out early, the temp was over 90 by 9:00am (damn you global warming). I over did it, and needed to stop to cool off. I pulled into a park with the intention of sitting on one of the benches and cooling off with the sports drink I brought along. When I rode into the park, I noticed that there was some kind of activity taking place near the band shell with a bunch of little kids and their moms. I DELIBERATELY RODE TO THE FAR END OF THE PARK TO BE AWAY FROM THESE KIDS AND THEIR MOMS. I sat down at a bench which was out of site of the band shell. I was there about 5 minutes when these three little girls came riding down the bike path with no other adults in site. The youngest girl looked to be about 8 and the oldest 11 or 12, one of them was riding a pink Barbie bike. I said nothing to these kids, did not acknowledge them, or encourage them in any way. The kids saw me sitting at the bench, so all three stopped, got off their bikes and plopped themselves down on the bench next to me. I ignored them. They sat there a few minutes when two of the girls tried to push the 3rd girl over on top of me, and all three giggling away. I got up, hopped on my bike and slowly rode away hoping no one else saw this....fortunately, no one did. If someone had, the next day's headline would have read: "Bike Riding Park Perv Arrested for Molesting Children"

The kids in the above story did exactly what they have been told NOT TO DO since they have been old enough to understand. The mothers let them out of site because yacking with the other soccer moms about the Kardashians was more important than keeping an eye on their kids. Have no doubts if anyone had seen me near these kids, even though I did nothing, there would have been dozens of 911 calls being made to the PD.

If you are an adult male, STAY AWAY FROM ALL UNDERAGE KIDS. Don't talk to them, don't pat them on the head, do not wink at them, NOTHING. It's unfortunate, but that's what our society has come to.
 
2012-08-15 09:38:45 AM
In other news: Men aren't human beings anymore.
 
2012-08-15 09:40:39 AM

Oblio13: My ex claimed that I pointed a gun at her face. When she got on the witness stand my lawyer asked, "What color was it?"


Flesh-colored.
 
2012-08-15 09:40:54 AM

profplump: I have no idea what you're on about with respect to "face the accuser" -- you can't file a child abuse report without naming the child that was harmed, because such a report could never be investigated. The adult filing the report is not a party to the crime, they're just making a report, and they can be held liable for filing a false report just like anyone else.


Quite simply, this allows for "revenge reportings" whereby somebody with a grudge can make a person's life a living hell by repeatedly activating the system, and the system by law, MUST follow up on every report, repeatedly invading a family's privacy, causing them unwanted attention, embarrassment, and an unearned reputation, simply because, "Where there's smoke, there's fire." And no, they can not be "held liable for filing a false report" simply because all they have to say is, "It looked like child abuse to me." I have no less than three members of my extended family who work for DFACS. In fact, one was a Director (retired now). And still, I've had to endure the intense scrutiny of the system, all because I insulted somebody's manhood. They even sent "suggestive" pictures I had posted to a facebook album (but my daughter had in fact taken,) to local newspapers, trying to smear my reputation. That proved to be their undoing, as the newspaper notified me, and gave me their anonymous letter, along with the "suggestive" pictures, and I recognized their handwriting. When I confronted them and threatened legal action, the harassment stopped.
 
2012-08-15 09:46:45 AM
I sat next to a girl age 10 to 13 from Houston to Seattle.

We played some kid's card game. No problem until baggage claim, when she spoke to me and her mother saw it. She called security, ranted awhile. I left.

The kid shoulda kept quiet, I had no intention of ratting her out.
 
2012-08-15 09:52:19 AM

Ebbelwoi: Half the country boycotts some chicken joint cause the founder gives a teensy part of the profits to anti-gay Baptists but straight-forward, in your face anti-male bigotry and no one is boycotting anything?

FWIW my kids often have to fly unaccompanied to see their grandma and no airline has ever asked me, the parent, whether I have any views and/or choices on who they sit next too. The airlines are full of shiat and are just banking on the fact that anti-male sexist bigotry is the acceptable norm.


Try bringing this up with a third-wave, feminist bigot some time. In most cases you'll get one (or both) of the following responses:
1. TPHMT ("The Patriarchy Hurts Men Too")
2. "On noes, what about the menz???" (Ultra-condescending way to say "because you're a man, your problems and concerns don't matter")

/You've come a long way, baby
 
2012-08-15 09:57:14 AM

WhippingBoy: Try bringing this up with a third-wave, feminist bigot some time. In most cases you'll get one (or both) of the following responses:
1. TPHMT ("The Patriarchy Hurts Men Too")
2. "On noes, what about the menz???" (Ultra-condescending way to say "because you're a man, your problems and concerns don't matter")


I'm sure you run into women like that every day

/ On your AM radio
// In your basement
/// Among the empty cheetoh bags
 
2012-08-15 10:05:41 AM

Pattuq: I'm so afraid of the "all men are probably child molesters" fear that the asshole media has created that I moved to another country (actually, there were also other reasons for the move, such as work and personal interests). I'm a teacher, and if I was around children in Canada I would be constantly paranoid and on edge. The kids would receive a seriously crippled education from me because of that.

My wife is Japanese, and if I was seen alone with half-Japanese kids in my hometown everyone would jump to conclusions of molestation since interracial marriages between whites and Asians are still rare there. I once had a security guard interrogate me because he thought my wife was a child I had abducted, despite us being the same age and her just being small and youngish-looking.

Here in Japan there is no such fear. I teach children almost daily at the school I work for, with no issues at all. I'm often alone in a room with a single child (sometimes girls as young as 6). Even though I'm a big foreign guy with a beard and shaved head, the parents are always delighted and constantly scold their children for acting out of hand. I was once teaching the mother of a family who attended, and her 4 year-old daughter ran into the room after our lesson and started hugging my arm. The mother chuckled and then apologized to me before telling her daughter to stop bothering me. If that were Canada or the US, I would have been beaten to a pulp.


Oh man, I know that feeling (sorta)!

I got sideways accused of pedo/predatory intent by some young (I say young; he was probably 22; I was around 27/28) guy with a little authority (and probably a crush or big brother mentality) for talking to - not hitting on, just talking to - a woman who I knew was in her 20s, just because she looks young. I had no idea what the deal was, or who he was talking about, until he said "she looks like she's 13!"

At that point I knew what was going on and knew not to bother arguing.

Luckily it only cost me my (temporary, low-paid) job and didn't result in any legal bullshiat (this was Louisiana, so double lucky).

(Further clarification - the woman complained to someone - no idea what she actually said I did - and this guy was the guy who came to deliver the news.)
 
2012-08-15 10:05:53 AM
When it comes to kiddy fiddlers ALL MEN ARE GUILTY UNTIL PROVEN INNOCENT.

And even then, in the public eye, you're still guilty.
 
2012-08-15 10:11:42 AM

jaytkay: WhippingBoy: Try bringing this up with a third-wave, feminist bigot some time. In most cases you'll get one (or both) of the following responses:
1. TPHMT ("The Patriarchy Hurts Men Too")
2. "On noes, what about the menz???" (Ultra-condescending way to say "because you're a man, your problems and concerns don't matter")

I'm sure you run into women like that every day

/ On your AM radio
// In your basement
/// Among the empty cheetoh bags


In a genuine attempt to improve myself and make myself less of a ignorant bigot, I started reading some of the more popular third-wave feminist blogs in order to try to get a different perspective on things. I tried to view them with an open mind, as free from past prejudices as possible (admittedly, not an easy thing to do). While the main topics of the blogs are thought-provoking and address many, many valid and unacceptable social injustices that still exist today, most of the commenters seem to be simple-minded bigots with an axe to grind against the evil menz. They don't want equality, they want retribution, as well as a scapegoat to blame for all their failures in life.

So yeah, I do run into these types of people on a regular basis.
 
2012-08-15 10:12:08 AM
Wagga Wagga? WTF is wrong with Australia?
 
2012-08-15 10:36:04 AM

Rush's_pills: Wagga Wagga? WTF is wrong with Australia?


Uh, you see son, before the white Australians came, there were these people called the aborigines...
 
2012-08-15 11:21:05 AM
j.wigflip.com
 
2012-08-15 11:32:54 AM

snow9999: There was a story a year or two ago about how a little boy drowned in a pond. A guy came forward and said he had seen the child wandering the street, but because we was worried about being branded a molester if he had tried to help the child, he just kept driving. This crap is why that child died, instead of being taken to the police and reunited with his family.


If that is true, he is at best an ass and at worst criminally negligent. At the very least he should have flagged down a cop or called 911 but no, he had to go all "men's rights" instead of doing his civic duty toward another human being.
 
2012-08-15 11:41:39 AM

Rush's_pills: Wagga Wagga? WTF is wrong with Australia?


You can fly from Wagga Wagga to Walla Walla...
 
2012-08-15 11:46:10 AM

DarklyDreamingLiberation: I get that he is an angry nurse (they're all angry and for good reason; I have nothing but respect for nurses) and would not hurt a child, but to expect that the whole policy be scrapped is being a whiny c*nt about a tactless flight attendant.

Parents feel safer taking their chances having their kids sit next to stange women than strange men. Period. I ride the bus and T every day and see it all the time. Even with teachers banging their way thru middle schools, being a damn nurse he should still know that FACT; it's definitely mentioned in psych class. Though not all parents are as fortunate to have a male nurse to be sitting next to their kid if god forbid something happen. But come on guy, how are they supposed to know that?

That flight attendant SHOULD have thanked him, too. As well as apologize to all three of them for moving the both of them and probably embarrassing the little girl in the process. If this is standard policy, then it should be part of the damn safety speech. "And to close, as per policy, if you are a single male sitting next to an unaccompanied minor, please switch with the nearest female willing to move seats." A simple sentence, and many a PR situations and possible lawsuits avoided. YOUR WELCOME.

Hopefully all the passengers of that flight can read this article so he can be vindicated of his shame !


Well, this is the end result of sexism. It's sort of a two-way sword--assume all women are inherently asexual, and you end up portraying all men as horny bastards.

And then the feminism movement came in and the men all leaped off the bandwagon (because THEY HATE MEN!!1111!!!1eleventy!), so we've had a women's-rights movement but we only have a men-whining-like-biatches movement.

It's messy. It's ridiculous. And this is why men need an actual rights movement instead of just whimpering about child support.
 
2012-08-15 11:52:19 AM
Here's the part I don't understand. Since when did in-flight kiddie-diddling become such a big problem that a discriminatory policy became necessary to solve it? The whole thing sounds a lot like the current efforts to disenfranchise people from voting in order to stop virtually non-existent vote-fraud from occurring. In other words, it's based on fear, not reason.

Maybe things have changed more than I realize in the past 10 years. I haven't flown commercially since before 9/11, and wouldn't want to sit anywhere near someone else's child anyway (whether they're accompanied or not). But I have never heard of a case where a pedo attempted to mess around with a kid on board a plane in flight, or on the ground for that matter. I mean, it's a rather public setting and all that.

So what really explains the airlines' paranoia about men? There doesn't seem to be a fact-based motive for making the male passengers move. If the intent is to reduce their potential liability from lawsuits, the gender discrimination complaints being filed against them tend to suggest their efforts are backfiring.

\am serious here, and would appreciate it if someone could provide a rationale for why these measures are being taken to fix something that wasn't broken in the first place. I'm too lazy to google it, but is there any documented evidence that a man has ever molested even a single child on a commercial flight?
 
2012-08-15 12:01:39 PM
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2012-08-15 12:09:51 PM

fortean chicken: Who the heck wants to sit next to a child anyway? I'd be thanking the flight attendant for getting me out of there. I flippin' hate kids.


I'd rather sit next to a child that a humungous, musky fat person whose side-hams are blurping over the arm rest and taking up 30% of my seat. It's happened more than once, and I always thought that if lard-ass was going to be using part of my seat, he/she should have chipped in for my ticket.
 
2012-08-15 12:14:58 PM

JustTheTip: fortean chicken: Who the heck wants to sit next to a child anyway? I'd be thanking the flight attendant for getting me out of there. I flippin' hate kids.

I'd rather sit next to a child that a humungous, musky fat person whose side-hams are blurping over the arm rest and taking up 30% of my seat. It's happened more than once, and I always thought that if lard-ass was going to be using part of my seat, he/she should have chipped in for my ticket.


...have you considered trying to molest the fat guy?
 
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