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(The Weekly Standard)   Clinton White House chief of staff Erskine Bowles on budget ideas delivered a year ago: "This guy is amazing." This Paul Ryan guy, I mean   (weeklystandard.com) divider line 165
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2012-08-14 11:48:31 PM  
www.cognitivedissident.org

This cover is amazing!
 
2012-08-14 11:56:23 PM  
I found Palin to be fascinating. Amazing. Stunning.

I would consider her holding any kind of office to be a very bad sign. But every time she opened her mouth I was fascinated. Amazed. Stunned.
 
2012-08-15 12:18:17 AM  
Y'all realize Bubba is still around, right?
 
2012-08-15 12:51:20 AM  
Oh, we'll I'm convinced then. He must be great. How foolish I was to base my opinion on things Ryan has said and done instead of what Erskine farking Bowles thinks.
 
2012-08-15 12:55:38 AM  
i294.photobucket.com
 
2012-08-15 12:56:44 AM  
img.chan4chan.com
 
2012-08-15 01:04:46 AM  
Who?
 
2012-08-15 01:28:05 AM  
Who the fark is Erskine Bowles and why the fark should I care what he thinks about anything?
 
2012-08-15 01:59:15 AM  
 
2012-08-15 05:08:57 AM  
Well hell, I'm convinced. Paul Ryan for God Emperor of America!
 
2012-08-15 05:10:49 AM  
"Have any of you all met Paul Ryan? We should get him to come to the university. I'm telling you this guy is amazing. ... He is honest, he is straightforward, he is sincere. And the budget that he came forward with is just like Paul Ryan. It is a sensible, straightforward, serious budget and it cut the budget deficit just like we did, by $4 trillion. ... The president as you remember, came out with a budget and I don't think anybody took that budget very seriously. The Senate voted against it 97 to nothing."

Oh, FFS!

Gawdamnit, this talking point just will not die.

The 97-0 vote was a stunt vote initiated by the GOP to cover up the embarrassment with Ryan's budget being shot down in flames.

Erskine Bowles is a jackass parroting RW talking points.

Publicizing Bowles's comments could help shape the public's view of Ryan-and improve the public's view of Mitt Romney, the man who picked him.

Because the only thing keeping GOPhers from voting to RR2012 is approval of the Veep pick by Clinton's former COS?
 
2012-08-15 05:15:10 AM  
I've never seen anything reliable that claims Ryan's budget actually reduces the deficit.
 
2012-08-15 05:21:46 AM  

Alphax: I've never seen anything reliable that claims Ryan's budget actually reduces the deficit.


It does, but that requires a 91% decrease in non-military spending over the next 40 years (as Colbert said.)
 
2012-08-15 05:40:34 AM  
OBESE WRINKLES
 
2012-08-15 05:49:33 AM  
BE LESS WONKIER
 
2012-08-15 05:56:13 AM  

quatchi: Oh, FFS!

Gawdamnit, this talking point just will not die.

The 97-0 vote was a stunt vote initiated by the GOP to cover up the embarrassment with Ryan's budget being shot down in flames.


You're absolutely right, there is a talking point that will not die and you're the one trying to use it.

The House voted on one of Obama's budgets... 0-414, this was after the 0-97 in the senate the year before.

In the meantime the "embarrassment" they were trying to cover up was... Ryan's budget passing the House. You are taking your talking points straight from the Obama WH as they were the one's first calling it a "gimmick", but really, not even ONE Democrat voted for his budget, it's almost as if they didn't want to be associated with such a steaming pile of you know what.

And all of this is putting aside the fact that there's been no budget for around 1500 days. That's some quality leadership.
 
2012-08-15 05:59:46 AM  

randomjsa: not even ONE Democrat voted for his budget, it's almost as if they didn't want to be associated with such a steaming pile of you know what.


I bet it looked like this.
 
2012-08-15 06:15:37 AM  
Cracker admitted he can't do math in the first 5 secs, so wtf gives?
 
2012-08-15 06:20:21 AM  

randomjsa: not even ONE Democrat voted for his budget, it's almost as if they didn't want to be associated with such a steaming pile of you know what.


Oh, FFS.

Senate Democrats forced Wednesday's vote in order to make Senate Republicans go on record in support of the Medicare overhaul.

The final vote on the proposal originated by House Budget Committee Chairman Paul Ryan, R-Wisconsin, was 57-40, mostly along party lines. Republicans who joined the majority Democrats in opposing the measure were Scott Brown of Massachusetts, Lisa Murkowski of Alaska, Rand Paul of Kentucky, and Olympia Snowe and Susan Collins of Maine.

Three senators didn't vote -- Republicans Kay Bailey Hutchison of Texas and Pat Roberts of Kansas, and Democrat Chuck Schumer of New York.


In a later retaliatory vote forced by Republicans, the Senate achieved rare bipartisan unanimity in rejecting Obama's budget plan on a 97-0 vote. The defeat was expected.


CNN Link

Catch that?

The Dems forced the GOP to go on record that the Ryan plan was an unpassable pile o' shiat due to his wanting to get rid of Medicare and replace it with a voucher program.

Rather than let that be the headline the next day the GOP forced a vote on an earlier version of a Dem proposed Budget that was no longer viable as it had been supplanted by a newer one. The Dems voted No just to recognize the stunt for what it was and end the farce but didn't realize that it would become a major talking point for the low-info right from that point on.

And here we are.
 
2012-08-15 06:24:12 AM  

randomjsa: quatchi: Oh, FFS!

Gawdamnit, this talking point just will not die.

The 97-0 vote was a stunt vote initiated by the GOP to cover up the embarrassment with Ryan's budget being shot down in flames.

You're absolutely right, there is a talking point that will not die and you're the one trying to use it.

The House voted on one of Obama's budgets... 0-414, this was after the 0-97 in the senate the year before.

In the meantime the "embarrassment" they were trying to cover up was... Ryan's budget passing the House. You are taking your talking points straight from the Obama WH as they were the one's first calling it a "gimmick", but really, not even ONE Democrat voted for his budget, it's almost as if they didn't want to be associated with such a steaming pile of you know what.

And all of this is putting aside the fact that there's been no budget for around 1500 days. That's some quality leadership.


The other option is you can get your facts straight and say they voted against the budget because Obama had just put forward a proposal that reduced the deficit by $4 trillion over 12 years in a speech at George Washington University rather than the $1.1 trillion over 10 years the budget voted on had.

You might also mention the vote was pushed for by Mitch McConnell after the Ryan budget was shot down 57-40 in the Senate. If you were an honest person instead of a narrative-writing shill you might also make the connection between these two votes apparent as a measure to save face... but I know you'll do none of these because you're just a trolling threadshiatter.
 
2012-08-15 06:26:39 AM  

randomjsa: And all of this is putting aside the fact that there's been no budget for around 1500 days.


The 2012 budget was passed on December 23, 2011.

Your fact sucks.
 
2012-08-15 06:36:15 AM  

Skleenar: randomjsa: not even ONE Democrat voted for his budget, it's almost as if they didn't want to be associated with such a steaming pile of you know what.

I bet it looked like this.


Yeah, almost forgot about that.

The Dem's strategy of voting present causing the GOP to start flipping votes when it looked like the politically toxic mess that was the ultra conservative Republican Study Group proposed budget might actually pass was lulzy and worth noting as well.
 
2012-08-15 06:51:24 AM  
Can't argue with that. He's amazing, all right. To me, his having a political career is like Adam Sandler having a movie career: proof that a whole lot of people have something seriously wrong with them.
 
2012-08-15 06:52:38 AM  

Lando Lincoln: randomjsa: And all of this is putting aside the fact that there's been no budget for around 1500 days.

The 2012 budget was passed on December 23, 2011.

Your fact sucks.


Really?
 
2012-08-15 06:53:28 AM  
The RRR's have locked up the all-important Erskine Bowles endorsement? That's it, book it, done - might as well start packing up now, 0bumfart.
 
2012-08-15 06:55:44 AM  
My lady has a wonderful anus.
 
2012-08-15 06:55:59 AM  
Bowles is a Wall Street investment banker, so by his very nature, he's a farking tool.

And may be the next Secretary of the Treasury.

//I don't like Obama because he's not liberal ENOUGH!
 
2012-08-15 06:57:20 AM  

quatchi: Skleenar: randomjsa: not even ONE Democrat voted for his budget, it's almost as if they didn't want to be associated with such a steaming pile of you know what.

I bet it looked like this.

Yeah, almost forgot about that.

The Dem's strategy of voting present causing the GOP to start flipping votes when it looked like the politically toxic mess that was the ultra conservative Republican Study Group proposed budget might actually pass was lulzy and worth noting as well.


Oh yeah, I remember that. That was farking hilarious. "OH MY GOD! OUR STUPID BILL MIGHT ACTUALLY PASS! CHANGE THE VOTES! CHANGE THEM NOW!"
 
2012-08-15 06:58:49 AM  
Republicans hate all things Clinton. Clinton staffer likes Ryan. So, by transitive property, GOP hates Ryan.
 
2012-08-15 07:00:40 AM  
Erskine? What is this 1888 England?
 
2012-08-15 07:01:11 AM  

Ambivalence: Who the fark is Erskine Bowles and why the fark should I care what he thinks about anything?


Ultimately this. Damn the GOP is clutching at straws this time around.

Couldn't you guys have found some soccer mom from a podunk state for this gig?
 
2012-08-15 07:01:24 AM  
So? Clinton's economic policies were pretty right-wing anyway. Ending Glass-Steagall, anyone?

Unfortunately, Obama held on to a lot of those Wall Street economic advisors.
 
2012-08-15 07:03:07 AM  

Shirley Ujest: Erskine? What is this 1888 England?


Or 1942.. Dr. Abraham Erskine, inventor of the Super Soldier serum.
 
2012-08-15 07:03:50 AM  

shotglasss: Lando Lincoln: randomjsa: And all of this is putting aside the fact that there's been no budget for around 1500 days.

The 2012 budget was passed on December 23, 2011.

Your fact sucks.

Really?


Yeah, really. You think I just pulled that date out of nowhere?
 
2012-08-15 07:03:53 AM  
So this means that Obama's been shipped to Gitmo and Ryan is automatically President?
 
2012-08-15 07:08:03 AM  
So both houses of Congress passed a budget that was signed by the President?
 
2012-08-15 07:08:08 AM  
Vince Foster said he loved Ryan's budget, so Hillary shot him.

/Oh, yes,
 
2012-08-15 07:09:35 AM  

Alphax: I've never seen anything reliable that claims Ryan's budget actually reduces the deficit.


It won't. Any and all money saved from kicking Grandma into the street and tearing bottles of formula out of the mouths of poor babies is to be used to give big fat tax breaks to Sheldon Adelson and the Koch brothers.

This is what really pisses me off about the Ryan plan. Maybe.......just maybe......if the saved money was used to spend down the national debt or reinvested in maintaining our infrastructure, it would be sorta okay. But instead, all of this bounty is going to be shipped off to the filthy rich while our bridges literally collapse underneath us.

The rich would get everything (not just most of it. EVERYTHING!) while the rest of us end up living like Medieval peasants.
 
2012-08-15 07:11:42 AM  
Ah, the all important Bowles endorsement.

Publicizing Bowles's comments could help shape the public's view of Ryan-and improve the public's view of Mitt Romney

ProTip: 99.9% of voters have no farking idea who Erskine Bowles is.
 
2012-08-15 07:14:17 AM  
Paul Ryan is, by all accounts an intelligent man. His budget plan has some thought-provoking ideas about a lot of things, most notably Medicare reform.

It just a shame that Mitt Romney has forbid him from talking about any of those ideas, and has made a poin I distancing himself from all of them, especially the Medicare Reform.
 
2012-08-15 07:14:52 AM  

Irving Maimway: Bowles is a Wall Street investment banker, so by his very nature, he's a farking tool.

And may be the next Secretary of the Treasury.

//I don't like Obama because he's not liberal ENOUGH!


He sounds like he should be beating a slave for not working fast enough.

Farking "Southern" accent, it is a deliberate affectation, plenty of people born and raised in the South do NOT talk like that - it is on purpose and it is stupid.
 
2012-08-15 07:15:41 AM  

The Homer Tax: Paul Ryan is, by all accounts an intelligent man


You know who else was an intelligent man?
 
2012-08-15 07:18:09 AM  
So this makes Sarah Palin automatically president, right?
 
2012-08-15 07:28:15 AM  

Ambivalence: Who the fark is Erskine Bowles and why the fark should I care what he thinks about anything?


H could be our next Treasury Secretary, that's who...
 
2012-08-15 07:28:31 AM  

The Homer Tax: Paul Ryan is, by all accounts an intelligent man. His budget plan has some thought-provoking ideas about a lot of things, most notably Medicare reform.


Well, I suppose that "Wow, this guy is shiat-smearing bugfark insane" is a thought...
 
2012-08-15 07:32:53 AM  

shotglasss: So both houses of Congress passed a budget that was signed by the President?


Why are you asking? This stuff wasn't that long ago.
 
2012-08-15 07:37:34 AM  

dr_blasto: shotglasss: So both houses of Congress passed a budget that was signed by the President?

Why are you asking? This stuff wasn't that long ago.


LOL

He sounds so sad, stuck in the realization that one of his ardent beliefs is based on a lie.

"So there is no Santa Claus?"
 
2012-08-15 07:41:19 AM  
What is it with Republicans touting support from Democrats these days?

Scott Brown is doing the same shiat here in MA... He's had three commercials with Democrats proclaiming their support for him.


It's almost like Republicans know their brand has become toxic...
 
2012-08-15 07:45:54 AM  

Crotchrocket Slim: Ambivalence: Who the fark is Erskine Bowles and why the fark should I care what he thinks about anything?

Ultimately this. Damn the GOP is clutching at straws this time around.

Couldn't you guys have found some soccer mom from a podunk state for this gig?


Really? You're dismissing the opinion of a democrat (Clinton chief of staff) on the deficit reduction committee on Ryan and you suggest the GOP is clutching at straws?

It's okay, you can be honest here. Your or my views aren't going to affect anybody else's vote. Admitting that, yes, Bowles' praise for Ryan is significant doesn't mean you have to vote for Romney.
 
2012-08-15 07:49:41 AM  

keylock71: What is it with Republicans touting support from Democrats these days?

Scott Brown is doing the same shiat here in MA... He's had three commercials with Democrats proclaiming their support for him.


It's almost like Republicans know their brand has become toxic...


They had Zell Miller in 2004, doing his Angry Zombie impression.
 
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