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2012-08-14 11:27:48 AM  
I'll sum it up for folks who don't want to read the article:

Author has a sandy vagina.
 
2012-08-14 11:35:22 AM  

Lsherm: I'll sum it up for folks who don't want to read the article:

Author has a sandy vagina.


Thanks. That was my prediction.
 
2012-08-14 11:40:01 AM  
But wait, is this going to be another moral panic like it was back in 1999/2000? Do we really have to go through that again?
 
2012-08-14 11:49:32 AM  
but we need to keep the 101st fighting keyboardists trained and ready for action!
 
2012-08-14 11:53:52 AM  
How did Oliver North become such a Republican icon, anyway? Is there some sort of honor or prestige in selling out your country by selling weapons to Iran, the country who held your citizens hostage only a few years prior, so you can fund armed guerrillas in Nicaragua?
 
2012-08-14 12:08:09 PM  

RexTalionis: How did Oliver North become such a Republican icon, anyway? Is there some sort of honor or prestige in selling out your country by selling weapons to Iran, the country who held your citizens hostage only a few years prior, so you can fund armed guerrillas in Nicaragua?


He protected St. Reagan.
 
2012-08-14 12:25:43 PM  
1) Write troll article designed to incense the only people likely to even know your blog exists.

2) Needlessly split troll article into separate pages to ensure extra clicks.

3) Profit! (but not much, maybe $25 or so, enough to ensure that you need to churn out another quick list troll within the next few hours).
 
2012-08-14 01:14:19 PM  

vygramul: RexTalionis: How did Oliver North become such a Republican icon, anyway? Is there some sort of honor or prestige in selling out your country by selling weapons to Iran, the country who held your citizens hostage only a few years prior, so you can fund armed guerrillas in Nicaragua?

He protected St. Reagan.


It was not mutual.
 
2012-08-14 01:29:50 PM  
Shredder: Guitar Hero Special Ollie "Dimebag" North Edition
 
2012-08-14 01:31:35 PM  
Normally I take a very dim view of moral panic over video games, but you must wonder who thought having Ollie North shill your story of armed terrorists was a good idea.

The rest of the complains? They can be summed up by saying shiatty war games have shiatty masturbatory storylines for gun nuts. Just like every shiatty action movie ever.
 
2012-08-14 01:49:04 PM  
Activision gives Olly North a paycheck? Seriously? Well back to pirating their software it is.
 
2012-08-14 01:50:31 PM  
Why would you hire Ollie North? did someone make a "lying to congress" simulator?
 
2012-08-14 01:58:18 PM  
Oliver North... fark. HIM. Treasonous War Criminal. Period.
 
2012-08-14 01:59:59 PM  
Bullshiat. Oliver North is an American Hero. He has just been slandered by the far-left media because he dared to fight communism.
 
2012-08-14 02:03:47 PM  
Is he going to be an NPC that gives you your mission briefings and covertly sell weapons to your targets?
 
2012-08-14 02:04:03 PM  

ha-ha-guy: Activision gives Olly North a paycheck? Seriously? Well back to pirating their software it is.


Why not protest for real and, you know, not play? Disagreement with a game maker does not entitle you to steal its games.
 
2012-08-14 02:06:46 PM  
Article starts with this:
My belief that video games don't cause real world violence are no secret.

and requires 2 clicks to share 5 points.

FU Uproxxemployee-mitter.
 
2012-08-14 02:10:21 PM  

palladiate: Normally I take a very dim view of moral panic over video games, but you must wonder who thought having Ollie North shill your story of armed terrorists was a good idea.


Hey SOMEBODY has to give those terrorist weapons.
 
2012-08-14 02:15:55 PM  
I dont like realistic modern (or historic) shooters much to begin with. Counterstrike is about all ill play in that vein. Give me a flak cannon and a lightning gun to shoot aliens with any day.

Or a fish and silly hats to fight robots with...
 
2012-08-14 02:19:35 PM  
The article comes across as saying that while video games don't cause violence, they do something worse: foster worldviews that disagree with the author's own.
 
2012-08-14 02:24:04 PM  

lordaction: Bullshiat. Oliver North is an American Hero. He has just been slandered by the far-left media because he dared to fight communism.


-2/10
 
2012-08-14 02:27:35 PM  
Oliver North is a traitor and should hang. The difference between FPS gamers and currently active marines is the marines have a k/d approaching .
 
2012-08-14 02:29:51 PM  

Millennium: ha-ha-guy: Activision gives Olly North a paycheck? Seriously? Well back to pirating their software it is.

Why not protest for real and, you know, not play? Disagreement with a game maker does not entitle you to steal its games.


If I'm on the jury it does.
 
2012-08-14 02:37:51 PM  

Tickle Mittens: Oliver North is a traitor and should hang. The difference between FPS gamers and currently active marines is the marines have a k/d approaching ∞.


I think you have confused Oliver North with Jane Fonda. North saved this country from the evils of communism.
 
2012-08-14 02:40:37 PM  

lordaction: Bullshiat. Oliver North is an American Hero. He has just been slandered by the far-left media because he dared to fight communism.


upload.wikimedia.org
 
2012-08-14 02:48:55 PM  

lordaction: Tickle Mittens: Oliver North is a traitor and should hang. The difference between FPS gamers and currently active marines is the marines have a k/d approaching ∞.

I think you have confused Oliver North with Jane Fonda. North saved this country from the evils of communism.


Your feeble attempts at flamebait have all the subtlety of masturbating while straddeling the pizza at a child's Chuck E Cheese birthday party.
 
2012-08-14 02:57:45 PM  

Tickle Mittens: Oliver North is a traitor and should hang.


this. /thread
 
2012-08-14 03:06:03 PM  
North may have been a douchebag later in life, but he won a Silver Star, Bronze Star with V, and got 2 Purple Hearts. He was a shiatty Field Grader, but he was clearly one hell of a Company Grade officer.
 
2012-08-14 03:06:54 PM  

Tickle Mittens: lordaction: Tickle Mittens: Oliver North is a traitor and should hang. The difference between FPS gamers and currently active marines is the marines have a k/d approaching ∞.

I think you have confused Oliver North with Jane Fonda. North saved this country from the evils of communism.

Your feeble attempts at flamebait have all the subtlety of masturbating while straddeling the pizza at a child's Chuck E Cheese birthday party.


I'm being serious. I am currently reading his book "Under Fire". Great read if you want to get the other side of the story. You might be surprised what facts aren't taught by the socialist teacher's unions and the liberal media.
 
2012-08-14 03:20:19 PM  

lordaction: Tickle Mittens: Oliver North is a traitor and should hang. The difference between FPS gamers and currently active marines is the marines have a k/d approaching ∞.

I think you have confused Oliver North with Jane Fonda. North saved this country from the evils of communism.


What's so wrong with communism? While impractical in reality, it actually seems like a decent idea in a perfect world.
 
2012-08-14 03:21:41 PM  
So, China as an enemy is jingoistic bullshiat? God, people are such farking morons these days. If you set a fictional game in the modern world, it isn't going to be the US against Uganda. The Chinese are at the top of the heap when it comes to somewhat believable and capable nations that would be against the Western world. If you don't like fictional games set in the modern world, don't play them, moran.
 
2012-08-14 03:22:36 PM  

lordaction: Tickle Mittens: lordaction: Tickle Mittens: Oliver North is a traitor and should hang. The difference between FPS gamers and currently active marines is the marines have a k/d approaching ∞.

I think you have confused Oliver North with Jane Fonda. North saved this country from the evils of communism.

Your feeble attempts at flamebait have all the subtlety of masturbating while straddeling the pizza at a child's Chuck E Cheese birthday party.

I'm being serious. I am currently reading his book "Under Fire". Great read if you want to get the other side of the story. You might be surprised what facts aren't taught by the socialist teacher's unions and the liberal media.


GetALoadofThisGuy.jpg
 
2012-08-14 03:27:12 PM  
I'm actually more weirded out by how upset this douche is that a shooting game has a link-exchange relationship with people that sell competitive shooting guns. I don't think the idea that someone interested in shooting video games might also have an interest in actual competition shooting is really all that far-fetched or surprising.

Albeit he also refers to a competition rifle as a "sniper rifle" so I guess most probably he's just a farking moron.
 
2012-08-14 03:47:54 PM  

BLeap: lordaction: Tickle Mittens: Oliver North is a traitor and should hang. The difference between FPS gamers and currently active marines is the marines have a k/d approaching ∞.

I think you have confused Oliver North with Jane Fonda. North saved this country from the evils of communism.

What's so wrong with communism? While impractical in reality, it actually seems like a decent idea in a perfect shiattiest world.


Jeebus how old are you?

Read a book about Mao, Stalin, Castro or Pol Pot.

How many new Communist countries have formed since the fall of the USSR?
 
2012-08-14 03:53:39 PM  

lordaction: Tickle Mittens: lordaction: Tickle Mittens: Oliver North is a traitor and should hang. The difference between FPS gamers and currently active marines is the marines have a k/d approaching ∞.

I think you have confused Oliver North with Jane Fonda. North saved this country from the evils of communism.

Your feeble attempts at flamebait have all the subtlety of masturbating while straddeling the pizza at a child's Chuck E Cheese birthday party.

I'm being serious. I am currently reading his book "Under Fire". Great read if you want to get the other side of the story. You might be surprised what facts aren't taught by the socialist teacher's unions and the liberal media.


8/10 for blaming unions and socialists
 
2012-08-14 03:54:03 PM  
Better article on the subject , basically about EA partnering with gun/weapon manufacturers
 
2012-08-14 03:56:28 PM  

devildog123: North may have been a douchebag later in life, but he won a Silver Star, Bronze Star with V, and got 2 Purple Hearts. He was a shiatty Field Grader, but he was clearly one hell of a Company Grade officer.


North's later shiattiness cancels out all of his earlier accomplishments. The man deserves to die a pariah.
 
2012-08-14 04:07:08 PM  

lordaction: I'm being serious. I am currently reading his book "Under Fire". Great read if you want to get the other side of the story. You might be surprised what facts aren't taught by the socialist teacher's unions and the liberal media.


I, too, believe both sides about the Iran-Contra affair should be told. All we get now is the part about illicitly selling firearms to Iran. The other side, the one about the CIA's proceeds from the Iranian firearms trade and Panamanian drug trafficking, going to fund the training, logistic and operational aid of death squads in Nicaragua and Honduras. All in direct violation of Congressional mandate specifically to not aid or abet anti-Sandanista activity, above all else.

If North deserves the gallows for his part in the Contras, so did St. Ronnie and so does George Bush, Sr.
 
2012-08-14 04:15:53 PM  

that bosnian sniper: lordaction: I'm being serious. I am currently reading his book "Under Fire". Great read if you want to get the other side of the story. You might be surprised what facts aren't taught by the socialist teacher's unions and the liberal media.

I, too, believe both sides about the Iran-Contra affair should be told. All we get now is the part about illicitly selling firearms to Iran. The other side, the one about the CIA's proceeds from the Iranian firearms trade and Panamanian drug trafficking, going to fund the training, logistic and operational aid of death squads in Nicaragua and Honduras. All in direct violation of Congressional mandate specifically to not aid or abet anti-Sandanista activity, above all else.

If North deserves the gallows for his part in the Contras, so did St. Ronnie and so does George Bush, Sr.


I disagree. Liberals call right-leaning fighers "death squads" and leftists "freedom fighters". Again, I am going to have to disagree with you completely when it comes to the Sandanistas. They were taking their country back from communists. Communism is always brought to a country from a barrel of a gun - not decided by the populace. These people had every right to defend their country. I highly recommend you read "Useful Idiots: How Liberals Got It Wrong in the Cold War and Still Blame America First" if you want the truth.
 
2012-08-14 04:24:37 PM  

lordaction: I disagree. Liberals call right-leaning fighers "death squads" and leftists "freedom fighters". Again, I am going to have to disagree with you completely when it comes to the Sandanistas. They were taking their country back from communists. Communism is always brought to a country from a barrel of a gun - not decided by the populace. These people had every right to defend their country. I highly recommend you read "Useful Idiots: How Liberals Got It Wrong in the Cold War and Still Blame America First" if you want the truth.


Yeah, you're an idiot and there's no point even continuing this discussion.
 
2012-08-14 04:29:33 PM  
mmmm...fawn hall. Best thing about Iran/Contra

www.mediabistro.com
 
2012-08-14 04:36:40 PM  

that bosnian sniper: lordaction: I disagree. Liberals call right-leaning fighers "death squads" and leftists "freedom fighters". Again, I am going to have to disagree with you completely when it comes to the Sandanistas. They were taking their country back from communists. Communism is always brought to a country from a barrel of a gun - not decided by the populace. These people had every right to defend their country. I highly recommend you read "Useful Idiots: How Liberals Got It Wrong in the Cold War and Still Blame America First" if you want the truth.

Yeah, you're an idiot and there's no point even continuing this discussion.


I find when people resort to personal attacks midway through a debate it is usually because they realize they are wrong and have no facts on their side. It is ridiculous that you are so offended by alternative points of view. I always find it hilarious when a liberals are presented with evidence they can't refute they say "You're an idiot/stupid/racist. I'm not talking to you anymore". I guess they fail to see that nowhere in life do you see someone winning quit a competition, only the person at the bottom of the scoreboard.
 
2012-08-14 04:45:37 PM  
PanicMan

Why would you hire Ollie North? did someone make a "lying to congress" simulator?

Yes, I'm sure lying under oath realllllllllly is a priority to you.

1.bp.blogspot.com

//continue your derp
 
2012-08-14 04:51:34 PM  

OnlyM3: PanicMan

Why would you hire Ollie North? did someone make a "lying to congress" simulator?
Yes, I'm sure lying under oath realllllllllly is a priority to you.

[1.bp.blogspot.com image 468x344]

//continue your derp


That's one big red herring you just pulled in. What kind of bait and line did you use?
 
2012-08-14 04:55:26 PM  
Has this guy not heard about the military using MW2 (among other titles) to help servicemembers suffering from PTSD?

It's a real enough simulation of combat (the look and sounds of it, but not the emotional toll - which is kind of the farking point) to engage the sufferer, but they can remove themselves if "shiat gets to real". They cope with the battle-related PTSD by essentially regaining control of "the situation", even if "control" means XBox button, right, right, down, A to turn the system off.
 
2012-08-14 04:57:14 PM  

lordaction: that bosnian sniper: lordaction: I disagree. Liberals call right-leaning fighers "death squads" and leftists "freedom fighters". Again, I am going to have to disagree with you completely when it comes to the Sandanistas. They were taking their country back from communists. Communism is always brought to a country from a barrel of a gun - not decided by the populace. These people had every right to defend their country. I highly recommend you read "Useful Idiots: How Liberals Got It Wrong in the Cold War and Still Blame America First" if you want the truth.

Yeah, you're an idiot and there's no point even continuing this discussion.

I find when people resort to personal attacks midway through a debate it is usually because they realize they are wrong and have no facts on their side. It is ridiculous that you are so offended by alternative points of view. I always find it hilarious when a liberals are presented with evidence they can't refute they say "You're an idiot/stupid/racist. I'm not talking to you anymore". I guess they fail to see that nowhere in life do you see someone winning quit a competition, only the person at the bottom of the scoreboard.


Read what you wrote. Seriously.

Instead of discussing the nuances of foreign policy; the complex interaction of nations during a time of conflict (ie, the Cold War), you effectively boiled down the whole issue to "everything libs do is bad, conservatives, good". That's not intelligent discourse, so get used to people calling you a moron, because you can't write farking sentence without a goddamn liberal strawman's argument.
 
2012-08-14 05:09:23 PM  

Eshman: lordaction: that bosnian sniper: lordaction: I disagree. Liberals call right-leaning fighers "death squads" and leftists "freedom fighters". Again, I am going to have to disagree with you completely when it comes to the Sandanistas. They were taking their country back from communists. Communism is always brought to a country from a barrel of a gun - not decided by the populace. These people had every right to defend their country. I highly recommend you read "Useful Idiots: How Liberals Got It Wrong in the Cold War and Still Blame America First" if you want the truth.

Yeah, you're an idiot and there's no point even continuing this discussion.

I find when people resort to personal attacks midway through a debate it is usually because they realize they are wrong and have no facts on their side. It is ridiculous that you are so offended by alternative points of view. I always find it hilarious when a liberals are presented with evidence they can't refute they say "You're an idiot/stupid/racist. I'm not talking to you anymore". I guess they fail to see that nowhere in life do you see someone winning quit a competition, only the person at the bottom of the scoreboard.

Read what you wrote. Seriously.

Instead of discussing the nuances of foreign policy; the complex interaction of nations during a time of conflict (ie, the Cold War), you effectively boiled down the whole issue to "everything libs do is bad, conservatives, good". That's not intelligent discourse, so get used to people calling you a moron, because you can't write farking sentence without a goddamn liberal strawman's argument.


If you ever stumble by accident into to politics tab (leave immediately) that's pretty much his shtick. Liberal strawman, universal scorn by other posters, ignored by people familiar with him.
 
2012-08-14 05:15:44 PM  
I read it and see nothing wrong with it at all. I backed up what I said from source material. Now that you mention it, liberals DID =bad during the cold war. Remember "Better Red then Dead"? How many liberal journalists were paid (that we know of) by the KGB? How many prominent liberals took "political pilgrimages" to communist countries and came back to say how wonderful they were? Liberals were traitors during the entire cold war and it was only won in spite of them, not because of them.
 
2012-08-14 05:33:22 PM  

OnlyM3: PanicMan

Why would you hire Ollie North? did someone make a "lying to congress" simulator?
Yes, I'm sure lying under oath realllllllllly is a priority to you.

[1.bp.blogspot.com image 468x344]

//continue your derp


The derp is all you.

Clinton's lies under oath were the result of a Republican funded hit squad and not an administrative power grab.
 
2012-08-14 05:35:01 PM  

lordaction: I find when people resort to personal attacks midway through a debate it is usually because they realize they are wrong and have no facts on their side.


No, I'm calling you an idiot because you have no discernible knowledge of Nicaraguan history, have no idea what occurred to precipitate the Nicaraguan revolution or what happened during it let alone in the Contras themselves, of the conduct of the Contras and the FSLN following the Revolution, and America's part in all of it. Your "alternate" point of view is nothing but political talking points and revisionist history, and completely, utterly partisan and counterfactual.

The Somoza dynasty was installed and supported by the US after the end of its twenty-year Nicaraguan military occupation. The Somoza's record of human rights abuses is well-documented. The FSLN received Cuban and Soviet aid -- after appealing the US for aid and being denied, and following US support for the Contras. The Contras' record of human rights abuses and crimes against humanity -- many of which sponsored and encouraged by the CIA -- is also extraordinarily well-documented, by not only our own government and NGO's but also the International Court of Justice and corroborated by former Contra members themselves. The Contras were, in every sense of the word, death squads.

In fact, that human rights record was part (not the whole of course, but part) of why the Contras had been defunded by Congress in the first place, precipitating the Iran-Contra affair itself.

Furthermore, the FSLN drew influence from Marxist-Leninist writings beyond those of Augusto Sandino himself, neither the Junta of National Reconstruction nor the FSLN itself was "Communist" -- they were democratic socialist. Not that I'd expect you to have any idea whatsoever the difference.
 
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