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2012-08-14 11:50:22 AM
Dad???
 
2012-08-14 11:50:28 AM
Hee-haw!

So the problem appears to be ... crazy people with guns.
 
2012-08-14 11:51:54 AM
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"Guess who's next.......

/you heard it here first.
 
2012-08-14 11:52:53 AM
Is hell really that crazy?
 
2012-08-14 11:53:47 AM
Trying to picture the craziness of hell....
 
2012-08-14 11:54:42 AM
Funny how no one blames the crazies for being crazy, it's all the gun's fault.

How many of these mass shooting suspects were on psych meds? How many of them went off the meds before they carried out their crime? When will people wake up and realize it's the drug companies creating the problem and not gun manufacturers?
 
2012-08-14 11:55:10 AM
Crazy? For Texas? Does that even exist?
 
2012-08-14 11:56:29 AM

Honest Bender: Is hell really that crazy?


upndn: Trying to picture the craziness of hell....


Well, if we are to assume that the "bat out of hell" theory is valid, then it follows that hell must be full of batsh*t

/QED
 
2012-08-14 11:56:49 AM

Honest Bender


Is hell really that crazy?


Hell is other people.

Other people are crazy.

Therefore hell is crazy.
 
2012-08-14 11:56:54 AM
Perhaps Texas is Hell.
 
2012-08-14 11:58:29 AM
What's his Fark handle?
 
2012-08-14 11:58:31 AM
Wait, why do you have constables? Didn't we win the Civil War to get Freedom from the UK?
 
2012-08-14 11:59:01 AM
that guy has crazy eyes
 
2012-08-14 11:59:50 AM
Re: Headline Or, as people in other states would call him: Texan.
 
2012-08-14 12:01:15 PM

Whatthefark: How many of these mass shooting suspects were on psych meds? How many of them went off the meds before they carried out their crime? When will people wake up and realize it's the drug companies creating the problem and not gun manufacturers?


Sometimes they're on the wrong meds... amitriptyline comes to mind.
 
2012-08-14 12:01:47 PM

upndn: Trying to picture the craziness of hell....


I like to picture 'crazier than a shiat house rat' better describes the individual.
 
2012-08-14 12:01:59 PM

Whatthefark: Funny how no one blames the crazies for being crazy, it's all the gun's fault.

How many of these mass shooting suspects were on psych meds? How many of them went off the meds before they carried out their crime? When will people wake up and realize it's the drug companies creating the problem and not gun manufacturers?


Perhaps if we didn't sell guns to crazies... How do you tell if someone is crazy before selling them a gun without "infringing" on someones rights? Well, don't we already do background checks on people before they buy a gun? How about making it so that if you're ever prescribed an anti-psychotic medication, it goes into a database that pops up on a background check?
 
2012-08-14 12:02:55 PM

Whatthefark: Funny how no one blames the crazies for being crazy, it's all the gun's fault.


If there were no guns the crazies would have to brandish spatulas, and I would rather face sideshow Bob with a plastic spatula than an assault rife.
 
2012-08-14 12:03:37 PM
So, the family knew he was mentally unfit and dangerous and that he was armed, but they stood by and did nothing? Well, fark them!

That's the same reason one of my best friends is dead, killed in 1985 by a guy who's parents knew needed help and did nothing.
 
2012-08-14 12:04:15 PM
Did anyone check to see if this quote is on his FB?

I'm not the killer man.
I'm the killer mans son.
But I'll do the killing.
Till the killer man comes.

/curious
 
2012-08-14 12:05:44 PM
When this newsflash hit yesterday, initial reports claimed they had a "suspect in custody."

My first naive thought was, wow this guy shot at and at least injured law enforcement and they managed to take him into custody. That's some fine police work there, Lou.

How silly of me.
 
2012-08-14 12:05:59 PM
I think more families would be honest about their defective offspring except admitting they knew their child/loved one was crazy may open them to lawsuits - especially if they failed to notify authorities.


/so, how long till this guy's family gets sued for failing to address a known threat?
 
2012-08-14 12:07:11 PM
Then there was the ever-present
Football player rapist
They were all in love with dyin'
They were doing it in Texas
 
2012-08-14 12:07:21 PM

Honest Bender: Is hell really that crazy?




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2012-08-14 12:07:29 PM

nmbottlecap: Whatthefark: Funny how no one blames the crazies for being crazy, it's all the gun's fault.

If there were no guns the crazies would have to brandish spatulas, and I would rather face sideshow Bob with a plastic spatula than an assault rife.


They would use knives. You have an 8 in 10 chance of dying from a knife wound. You have a 6 in 10 chance of dying from a gun shot.

Edged weapons cause more bleeding then through and through puncture type wounds.

When someone loses their shiat they have suprise on their side. If they are intent on doing harm to as many people as possible they have speed on their side. Violence of action completes the trifecta.
 
2012-08-14 12:08:38 PM

Wrath of Heaven: When this newsflash hit yesterday, initial reports claimed they had a "suspect in custody."

My first naive thought was, wow this guy shot at and at least injured law enforcement and they managed to take him into custody. That's some fine police work there, Lou.

How silly of me.


The police work seems fine. The reporting has uniformly sucked. Such is the nature of journalism, when the goal is to sensationalize. Note, too, that the shooting did not occur on A&M's campus, nor was an A&M policeman involved, as yesterday's "Wrong News Flashes" reported.
 
2012-08-14 12:09:04 PM
www.sixthseal.com

crazy as hell shooter?

NSFW
 
2012-08-14 12:09:15 PM
nmbottlecap:
If there were no guns the crazies would have to brandish spatulas make bombs, throw Molotov cocktails, drive cars into crowds, stab people with knives, poison Tylenol, et cetera...

The worst mass murderers in US history used either bombs or arson, by the way.

...and of the last half-dozen spree killers, almost all of them were - you got it - known to be a few fries short of a Happy Meal, like the guy in the story.
 
2012-08-14 12:09:31 PM

deadcrickets: Crazy? For Texas? Does that even exist?


Like saying stupid in Florida. It's a given.
 
b3x
2012-08-14 12:09:32 PM
FTFA:
Shawn Kemp, a local acquaintance of Caffall's, told The Eagle newspaper that he "fits the profile of a dude who might snap."

I have always wondered what happened to The Rainman after his basketball career.
 
2012-08-14 12:11:01 PM
I have family and friends who live in that neighborhood. Didn't know the shooter, but I can think of at least one other guy on that STREET that came to mind as a possible suspect when I heard the story.

College Station is crawling with brilliant, enlightened people from all over the planet. (because A&M is a large, rich, Tier-1 University.)

It also has its fair share of crazies, so many like this dude Cafall.
 
2012-08-14 12:15:31 PM
The crazed gut nut who killed a county constable and another person and wounded two others in a shooting near Texas A&M University on Monday was a "ticking time bomb" that was ready to blow, his family said.

Heh. Gut nut.
 
vpb [TotalFark]
2012-08-14 12:16:23 PM

Baz the Spaz: So, the family knew he was mentally unfit and dangerous and that he was armed, but they stood by and did nothing? Well, fark them!

That's the same reason one of my best friends is dead, killed in 1985 by a guy who's parents knew needed help and did nothing.


Do what? Dial 1-800-crazyguy?
 
2012-08-14 12:16:27 PM

Whatthefark: Funny how no one blames the crazies for being crazy, it's all the gun's fault.


a gun is a tool. true, it's a tool that allows you to kill people very easily, but it's a tool nonetheless.

my question is, why is a person who is obviously "crazy as hell" allowed to purchase guns?
 
2012-08-14 12:16:30 PM
Well thank goodness no one infringed on this mental disturbed citizen's right to bare arms. Now that would be crazy.
 
2012-08-14 12:16:36 PM

CapeFearCadaver: Whatthefark: How many of these mass shooting suspects were on psych meds? How many of them went off the meds before they carried out their crime? When will people wake up and realize it's the drug companies creating the problem and not gun manufacturers?

Sometimes they're on the wrong meds... amitriptyline comes to mind.


If it had come down to eviction papers being served, things had been declining for a while.
Nobody noticed or cared enough, especially the obviously super-sensitive and caring step daddy, who probably precipitated a good measure of the trouble. My first clue is in the tender way he describes his deceased step son. CRAZY AS HELL. Thanks, dad.
 
2012-08-14 12:17:05 PM

nmbottlecap: Whatthefark: Funny how no one blames the crazies for being crazy, it's all the gun's fault.

If there were no guns the crazies would have to brandish spatulas, and I would rather face sideshow Bob with a plastic spatula than an assault rife.


Then what would the police use?
 
2012-08-14 12:17:13 PM
"The crazed gut nut"

lol

Nice try.

"Assault rifle"

lol

Nice try.
 
2012-08-14 12:17:25 PM

Baz the Spaz: So, the family knew he was mentally unfit and dangerous and that he was armed, but they stood by and did nothing? Well, fark them!

That's the same reason one of my best friends is dead, killed in 1985 by a guy who's parents knew needed help and did nothing.


Private_Citizen: I think more families would be honest about their defective offspring except admitting they knew their child/loved one was crazy may open them to lawsuits - especially if they failed to notify authorities.


/so, how long till this guy's family gets sued for failing to address a known threat?


As much as I want to agree with you two, what they hell are they supposed to do? The man was 35. Maybe they have had him involuntarily committed in the past, maybe they put him in therapy when he was younger... what could they really DO? I say this also, as someone who was a victim of a violent crime perpetrated by an incredibly mentally unstable man whose parents certainly knew. Whose parents... did nothing. I was PISSED at them for the longest time, but I can't blame them. He was 31. He's a grown ass man. The accountability lays on him. And no one else. If the parents know, then by gods the psycho knows. So, the family calls the local police and says Our son is crazy. You think the police can do anything at the guys parents' words? I call the police and tell them psycho's driving through my neighborhood, against his restraining order and his probation. I have proof? A picture, video, No? Too bad. They can't do anything.

"We were hoping he'd kill himself before doing something like this," Richard Weaver said. "We are just devastated for the families this SOB killed."

Step-dad sounds like my ex-psychos' step-dad...
 
2012-08-14 12:17:58 PM

soup: Whatthefark: Funny how no one blames the crazies for being crazy, it's all the gun's fault.

How many of these mass shooting suspects were on psych meds? How many of them went off the meds before they carried out their crime? When will people wake up and realize it's the drug companies creating the problem and not gun manufacturers?

Perhaps if we didn't sell guns to crazies... How do you tell if someone is crazy before selling them a gun without "infringing" on someones rights? Well, don't we already do background checks on people before they buy a gun? How about making it so that if you're ever prescribed an anti-psychotic medication, it goes into a database that pops up on a background check?


HIPAA prevents that stuff without a warrant.
 
2012-08-14 12:19:39 PM

vpb: Baz the Spaz: So, the family knew he was mentally unfit and dangerous and that he was armed, but they stood by and did nothing? Well, fark them!

That's the same reason one of my best friends is dead, killed in 1985 by a guy who's parents knew needed help and did nothing.

Do what? Dial 1-800-crazyguy?


Snitches get stitches
 
2012-08-14 12:21:04 PM

Whatthefark: Funny how no one blames the crazies for being crazy, it's all the gun's fault.


Not funny. Sad. It's confirmation bias at work: some people have the preexisting conclusion that guns are bad, so all evidence is interpreted to

How many of these mass shooting suspects were on psych meds? How many of them went off the meds before they carried out their crime? When will people wake up and realize it's the drug companies creating the problem and not gun manufacturers?

I disagree with your conclusion. While you may have an axe to grind (rightfully or not) against big pharma, they are not the culprits here. The root cause is the systematic dismantling of the mental health system that took place under the Reagan administration. In GOPland, providing inpatient psychiatric care to dangerously unstable people who can't afford it is socialism. The conservative ideology dictates that public funds can only be spent to punish (poor) people, not to help them.
 
2012-08-14 12:21:28 PM

Giltric: nmbottlecap: Whatthefark: Funny how no one blames the crazies for being crazy, it's all the gun's fault.

If there were no guns the crazies would have to brandish spatulas, and I would rather face sideshow Bob with a plastic spatula than an assault rife.

They would use knives. You have an 8 in 10 chance of dying from a knife wound. You have a 6 in 10 chance of dying from a gun shot.

Edged weapons cause more bleeding then through and through puncture type wounds.

When someone loses their shiat they have suprise on their side. If they are intent on doing harm to as many people as possible they have speed on their side. Violence of action completes the trifecta.


sure as hell worked for OJ

if he would have legally purchased a gun and used it, they would have had even more evidence and he might have actually been convicted
 
2012-08-14 12:22:00 PM

Private_Citizen: I think more families would be honest about their defective offspring except admitting they knew their child/loved one was crazy may open them to lawsuits - especially if they failed to notify authorities.


/so, how long till this guy's family gets sued for failing to address a known threat?


Well, since it's Texas, I'd say the lawyers are already probably circling like sharks.
Especially since step dad freely shot off his mouth with the HE WAS CRAZY AS HELL remarks.
Lawyer: So you knew he was a danger to himself and others?
Stepdad: Erp, but, uh, well, um.
 
2012-08-14 12:22:21 PM

clyph: Whatthefark: Funny how no one blames the crazies for being crazy, it's all the gun's fault.

Not funny. Sad. It's confirmation bias at work: some people have the preexisting conclusion that guns are bad, so all evidence is interpreted to



... to support that conclusion.

/fixed that for me.
 
2012-08-14 12:22:34 PM

soup: Perhaps if we didn't sell guns to crazies... How do you tell if someone is crazy before selling them a gun without "infringing" on someones rights? Well, don't we already do background checks on people before they buy a gun? How about making it so that if you're ever prescribed an anti-psychotic medication, it goes into a database that pops up on a background check?


I'm not sure if you could fairly and constitutionally do the background check based on something like that, given that there are many people who have taken those medications for reasons that have little to do with them being a potential killer. Furthermore, such a rule might have the unintended consequence of discouraging crazies from seeking psychiatric treatment, potentially making the problem even worse I highly doubt that any sort of simple black-and-white rule could work well, because mental health is just too ambiguous a thing to treat that way.

On the other hand, it seems like in almost all of these mass shooting cases, friends/family/coworkers/acquaintances were very concerned about the person's potential for violence beforehand. In many cases, they even contact law enforcement only to be told that nothing can be done until the person actually harms someone. THAT, I think is something that we could change, but not necessarily in a black-and-white way. Perhaps we could create some sort of judicial review process by which someone could be committed for treatment and/or disarmed and placed on a firearms "do not sell" list? And make it actually reasonable to follow the process and get the wheels turning? It's a difficult area with no easy solutions, but I think that a detailed review of some of these individuals when others around them express concern is something that could be done.
 
2012-08-14 12:23:22 PM

halloran: "The crazed gut nut"

lol

Nice try.

"Assault rifle"

lol

Nice try.




Right.



GUN DON'T KILL PEOPLE!

CRAZY PEOPLE
who can legally buy guns KILL PEOPLE using the guns they legally bought

Got it.
 
vpb [TotalFark]
2012-08-14 12:24:15 PM

clyph: Whatthefark: Funny how no one blames the crazies for being crazy, it's all the gun's fault.

Not funny. Sad. It's confirmation bias at work: some people have the preexisting conclusion that guns are bad, so all evidence is interpreted to

How many of these mass shooting suspects were on psych meds? How many of them went off the meds before they carried out their crime? When will people wake up and realize it's the drug companies creating the problem and not gun manufacturers?

I disagree with your conclusion. While you may have an axe to grind (rightfully or not) against big pharma, they are not the culprits here. The root cause is the systematic dismantling of the mental health system that took place under the Reagan administration. In GOPland, providing inpatient psychiatric care to dangerously unstable people who can't afford it is socialism. The conservative ideology dictates that public funds can only be spent to punish (poor) people, not to help them.


It's not about blame, it's about solving a problem. Guns enable killers, so limiting access to guns will limit the ability of people to kill.
 
2012-08-14 12:25:02 PM

John the Magnificent: halloran: "The crazed gut nut"

lol

Nice try.

"Assault rifle"

lol

Nice try.



Right.



GUN DON'T KILL PEOPLE!

CRAZY PEOPLE who can legally buy guns KILL PEOPLE using the guns they legally bought

Got it.


you don't have to be CRAZEE to buy a firearm??

myrottingbrain.files.wordpress.com
 
2012-08-14 12:26:28 PM

BgJonson79: HIPAA prevents that stuff without a warrant.


Not if congress makes a law striking the old law and enabling this.
Pretty easy, too.

Psych patients on meds go automatically into a database (because it's not like there are already numerous agents recording this stuff already: Hospitals, physicians, drug stores, drug companies, insurance companies, etc.) that is cross linked with the federal instant background check database.
Simple and effective.

On meds now or have a history of meds in the past decade?
No guns for you.
 
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