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(KHOU Houston)   Texas A&M shooter preferred violent video games over working; is this finally the time for reasonable limits on video game violence and background checks on purchasers?   (khou.com) divider line 223
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2012-08-14 03:35:47 PM  

DontMakeMeComeBackThere: trickymoo: Im just so unbelieveably GLAD that all those upstanding, armed Texans were able to prevent this nutbag from going wild with his automatic assault rifle which he clearly needed for a plethora of reasons, none of which include shooting at another human being.

Assault weapons discussion needs to start up... again.

Yeah, people from all around the state should have rushed in to take this guy down.

You're an idiot.


You know, I guess I did rush into that door and out the window way too quickly.

Disarming the "More Guns, Less Crime" crusade was meant to be the blanket message.
 
2012-08-14 04:17:54 PM  

NewWorldDan: I play RTS games. My legion of minions will overrun your base after my snipers disrupt your resource gathering. I will be nowhere near the carnage.


suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com

/the emperor protects
 
2012-08-14 04:42:51 PM  
The Muthaship
How can hours and hours of playing a game where killing humans is the goal not have an effect on impressionable minds?


if kids minds are so easily influenced then explain to me why, despite 1000s of hours in classrooms, they watch Fox News as adults.
 
2012-08-14 04:58:19 PM  
Video games cause mass murders. Korea has mass murders all the time
 
2012-08-14 05:01:27 PM  

trickymoo: Im just so unbelieveably GLAD that all those upstanding, armed Texans were able to prevent this nutbag from going wild with his automatic assault rifle which he clearly needed for a plethora of reasons, none of which include shooting at another human being.

Assault weapons discussion needs to start up... again.


Very well.

No.

The discussion is now concluded.
 
2012-08-14 05:05:33 PM  

trickymoo: Carousel BeastIt's It's 100% irrational appeal to emotion with absolutely zero logical thought. The facts on actual gun ownership, the use (including non-use) of firearms in the prevention of crimes, etc are all completely ignored because ZOMG GUNS!!!

Okay, pick your irrationality:

Assault weapons are "tools" INCREDIBLY more lethal than other firearms and therefore require a deeper discussion.
-or-
ZOMG Video games!

But to be fair, please cite your 'facts on actual gun ownership in the prevention of crimes' or "Defensive Gun Uses" please.


Please explain why

upload.wikimedia.org

this firearm is "less lethal" than

cdn5.thefirearmsblog.com

this "assault weapon".
 
2012-08-14 05:30:52 PM  

Mr. Titanium: Howlin


Oh crap! I consume 6L of that a day! Am I gonna die? Or go on a rampage?

Ummmm... no.

This goes back to the days of Dungeons & Dragons when you were called a Satanist for playing (late 1980s to now.) I and most of the friends I played D&D with are Christians, one was a Hare Krishna for a while.

Again, there's something in the background...
 
2012-08-14 05:33:32 PM  
son of a biatch...
in response to the prior post....


HowlinPreacherMan: Texas A&M shooter preferred violent video games over working; is this finally the time for reasonable limits on video game violence and background checks on purchasers?

I prefer violent video games (hell, any video game really) to work and I haven't shot anyone, so I'd say no to both. Just because a few go off the deep end doesn't mean we all will.

Look into their background far enough and there will be another reason for their behavior, not just violent games.


I bet he drank dihydrogen monoxide. You see a lot of that in violent criminals.
 
2012-08-14 05:36:14 PM  

HotIgneous Intruder: Mrkos: Only if you require background checks on purchasers of alcohol.

Or smokers.
Smoking kills the equivalent of 1,000 full-loaded jumbo jets crashing every year.
Tell me 300,000 deaths per year isn't an epidemic of carnage.


It's because that smoking statistic is crap.
 
2012-08-14 05:40:49 PM  

Big_Fat_Liar: deadcrickets: kitsuneymg: deadcrickets: A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.

I own no guns. I have kids. No money and I don't want to have to deal with keeping shiat locked up all the time. I worry enough as is.

I'd point out that if you think that sentence says only a well regulated militia can have guns, you are a moron. "A moist chocolate cake, being tasty and delicious, the right of people to own forks, shall not be infringed." That doesn't mean you can only use a fork if you're going to eat cake.

Yes, our founding fathers had terrible grammar and should have been introduced to the term "comma splice". That doesn't make the first two clauses anything more than justification for the last two. Had they meant only militias could have guns, they'd have no doubt said that directly; most likely by adding "for that purpose" to the end of the "sentence."

And people ask me why grammar is important.

Let's ask Madison, again, "A well regulated militia, composed of the body of the people, being the best security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed; but no person religiously scrupulous shall be compelled to bear arms."

That didn't make the cut. Through its taxing power, the government can force us to bear arms. I'm all for it. It's about time the rich in this country give a little back so that the less fortunate can afford to exorcise exercise their basic rights. We can just add a little money to that EBT card to cover firearm purchases. May as well allow it to be used to purchase a state ID while were at it. Two problems solved at the same time...


If you are a Constitutional Originalist then you believe in the intent of the Founding Fathers. They made it very clear between the words of Madison (as he wrote the Second Amendment) and what Congress then passed in 1792 (which I also posted here). Intent and meaning are the same.
 
2012-08-14 05:42:36 PM  
When we outlaw guns for the mentally ill, only mentally ill outlaws will have guns.

/wait...
 
2012-08-14 06:45:25 PM  

Dimensio: trickymoo: Carousel BeastIt's It's 100% irrational appeal to emotion with absolutely zero logical thought. The facts on actual gun ownership, the use (including non-use) of firearms in the prevention of crimes, etc are all completely ignored because ZOMG GUNS!!!

Okay, pick your irrationality:

Assault weapons are "tools" INCREDIBLY more lethal than other firearms and therefore require a deeper discussion.
-or-
ZOMG Video games!

But to be fair, please cite your 'facts on actual gun ownership in the prevention of crimes' or "Defensive Gun Uses" please.

Please explain why

[upload.wikimedia.org image 300x104]

this firearm is "less lethal" than

[cdn5.thefirearmsblog.com image 590x300]

this "assault weapon".


Because without the flash suppressor, a potential victim can identify the direction of fire and take cover more effectively?
 
2012-08-14 06:48:04 PM  

ProfessorOhki: Dimensio: trickymoo: Carousel BeastIt's It's 100% irrational appeal to emotion with absolutely zero logical thought. The facts on actual gun ownership, the use (including non-use) of firearms in the prevention of crimes, etc are all completely ignored because ZOMG GUNS!!!

Okay, pick your irrationality:

Assault weapons are "tools" INCREDIBLY more lethal than other firearms and therefore require a deeper discussion.
-or-
ZOMG Video games!

But to be fair, please cite your 'facts on actual gun ownership in the prevention of crimes' or "Defensive Gun Uses" please.

Please explain why

[upload.wikimedia.org image 300x104]

this firearm is "less lethal" than

[cdn5.thefirearmsblog.com image 590x300]

this "assault weapon".

Because without the flash suppressor, a potential victim can identify the direction of fire and take cover more effectively?


Damnit wikipedia, you lied to me. My new answer is "because it has quad rails and that means you can put four times the bayonets on it."
 
2012-08-14 08:51:11 PM  

tom baker's scarf: The Muthaship
How can hours and hours of playing a game where killing humans is the goal not have an effect on impressionable minds?

if kids minds are so easily influenced then explain to me why, despite 1000s of hours in classrooms, they watch Fox News as adults.


Hey Edgy McEdgerson, what took you so long?
 
2012-08-14 10:08:22 PM  

Dimensio: trickymoo: Carousel BeastIt's It's 100% irrational appeal to emotion with absolutely zero logical thought. The facts on actual gun ownership, the use (including non-use) of firearms in the prevention of crimes, etc are all completely ignored because ZOMG GUNS!!!

Okay, pick your irrationality:

Assault weapons are "tools" INCREDIBLY more lethal than other firearms and therefore require a deeper discussion.
-or-
ZOMG Video games!

But to be fair, please cite your 'facts on actual gun ownership in the prevention of crimes' or "Defensive Gun Uses" please.

Please explain why

[upload.wikimedia.org image 300x104]

this firearm is "less lethal" than

[cdn5.thefirearmsblog.com image 590x300]

this "assault weapon".


Is it? You put the quotes around it. I fail to observe how it is an assault weapon the first place. I'm guessing that its cause it has tac add-on capabilities....?

In either event, this would fall under that catagory of "having a deep discussion" regarding these "tools."
.
 
2012-08-14 11:46:32 PM  

Fish in a Barrel: axeeugene: I find it laughable that a 70 year old commie *bolt action* rifle could incite anything other than mild disinterest in even the most reactionary fear-mongers.

Can you imagine a rampage with one of those? You get off one shot, then you either spend the next five minutes trying to remove the case that laquered itself to the chamber, or you start using it as a pike.


Reminds me of the time my husband went to rifle league with his mosin... he had some clips set up to make the loading go "faster", and decided to shout insults in a Russian accent at the "targets" while he was getting them loaded in.

/it was hilarious
 
2012-08-15 12:21:00 AM  

Dimensio: trickymoo: Carousel BeastIt's It's 100% irrational appeal to emotion with absolutely zero logical thought. The facts on actual gun ownership, the use (including non-use) of firearms in the prevention of crimes, etc are all completely ignored because ZOMG GUNS!!!

Okay, pick your irrationality:

Assault weapons are "tools" INCREDIBLY more lethal than other firearms and therefore require a deeper discussion.
-or-
ZOMG Video games!

But to be fair, please cite your 'facts on actual gun ownership in the prevention of crimes' or "Defensive Gun Uses" please.

Please explain why

[upload.wikimedia.org image 300x104]

this firearm is "less lethal" than

[cdn5.thefirearmsblog.com image 590x300]

this "assault weapon".


Well, obviously because it's black and scary looking...

/waitasecond...
 
2012-08-15 12:31:05 AM  

trickymoo: Dimensio: trickymoo: Carousel BeastIt's It's 100% irrational appeal to emotion with absolutely zero logical thought. The facts on actual gun ownership, the use (including non-use) of firearms in the prevention of crimes, etc are all completely ignored because ZOMG GUNS!!!

Okay, pick your irrationality:

Assault weapons are "tools" INCREDIBLY more lethal than other firearms and therefore require a deeper discussion.
-or-
ZOMG Video games!

But to be fair, please cite your 'facts on actual gun ownership in the prevention of crimes' or "Defensive Gun Uses" please.

Please explain why

[upload.wikimedia.org image 300x104]

this firearm is "less lethal" than

[cdn5.thefirearmsblog.com image 590x300]

this "assault weapon".

Is it? You put the quotes around it. I fail to observe how it is an assault weapon the first place. I'm guessing that its cause it has tac add-on capabilities....?

In either event, this would fall under that catagory of "having a deep discussion" regarding these "tools."
.


.....

So, you are honestly complaining about "assault weapons", when you have no idea what they are?

I mean, to the point where you can't even explain what makes something an "assault weapon" or potentially recognize a picture of one?

Seriously?!

/words fail to describe my reaction right now.
 
2012-08-15 08:28:30 AM  
/words fail to describe my reaction right now.

Because I couldn't ID something? Or because I keep insisting that this is something that needs to be answered on a case to case basis, you tool.
 
2012-08-15 08:41:53 AM  

trickymoo: Dimensio: trickymoo: Carousel BeastIt's It's 100% irrational appeal to emotion with absolutely zero logical thought. The facts on actual gun ownership, the use (including non-use) of firearms in the prevention of crimes, etc are all completely ignored because ZOMG GUNS!!!

Okay, pick your irrationality:

Assault weapons are "tools" INCREDIBLY more lethal than other firearms and therefore require a deeper discussion.
-or-
ZOMG Video games!

But to be fair, please cite your 'facts on actual gun ownership in the prevention of crimes' or "Defensive Gun Uses" please.

Please explain why

[upload.wikimedia.org image 300x104]

this firearm is "less lethal" than

[cdn5.thefirearmsblog.com image 590x300]

this "assault weapon".

Is it? You put the quotes around it. I fail to observe how it is an assault weapon the first place. I'm guessing that its cause it has tac add-on capabilities....?

In either event, this would fall under that catagory of "having a deep discussion" regarding these "tools."
.


Under the now-expired federal "assault weapons ban" the latter firearm was an "assault weapon". It remains such under several state bans, including California's and Massachusetts. Technically, both firearms function nearly identically (firing the same ammunition at the same force) as an AR-15.
 
2012-08-15 09:49:04 AM  

trickymoo: /words fail to describe my reaction right now.

Because I couldn't ID something? Or because I keep insisting that this is something that needs to be answered on a case to case basis, you tool.


You were tricked: Those were the same model of gun, a Ruger Mini-14. One is in the standard factory stock (the top one), and the bottom is in an after-market stock that doesn't have any effect on how the rifle itself functions: It's the same exact gun.

The point he was making was that almost all of those calling for a ban on assault weapons don't understand that there is zero functional difference between traditional semiautomatic sporting arms and so-called "assault weapons". You have to ban semiautomatics, and for that, you will incur the wrath of sportsman and hunters, not just guys who like the look of a military rifle.
 
2012-08-15 03:04:50 PM  

dittybopper: trickymoo: /words fail to describe my reaction right now.

Because I couldn't ID something? Or because I keep insisting that this is something that needs to be answered on a case to case basis, you tool.

You were tricked: Those were the same model of gun, a Ruger Mini-14. One is in the standard factory stock (the top one), and the bottom is in an after-market stock that doesn't have any effect on how the rifle itself functions: It's the same exact gun.


Second one's got a pistol grip too. I know that finds its way into "assault" legislation a lot.
 
2012-08-15 10:35:57 PM  
list of things i prefer over working. everything, lets ban everything.
 
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